Revolving Door of Desires: Sky Wind’s Update
- Luna Robbie
- Jul 22, 2024
- 46 min read
37 straight cis male Black American, he/him pronouns, ethically non-monogamous, game master, creative coach, yogi, business owner, pleasure Dom into: masturbation, writing, play parties, online sex
🔗 SKY LINKS | linktr.ee/hedonismanddebauchery / respectfulplay.com
00:00:00:04 - 00:00:19:02
Luna
And our guest today is a 37 year old ethnically non-monogamous hedonist whose pronouns include he, him, daddy, professor, and game master. A professional creative coach, Yogi, business owner, and pleasure dom. Originally from episode 141 hedonism, debauchery and play. Welcome back Sky wind.
00:00:19:04 - 00:00:23:06
Sky
Thank you so much for having me. It's always a pleasure to see your face. Oh.
00:00:23:08 - 00:00:30:09
Luna
So tell us what has been happening in your sexy life since we talked last. It's been a minute.
00:00:30:11 - 00:00:52:16
Sky
It has? I still live in Atlanta. I'm all powerhouse, figuring things out with my business. Which I'm sure we're going to get into a lot. I feel like you are my twin on the West coast in a lot of ways. And, I'm really I'm always really excited to talk to you. And, I think we identify with a lot of things, even though our worlds look a little different.
00:00:52:17 - 00:01:27:04
Sky
We deal with a lot of the same things. What else? I've shifted my business a little bit from, just being, the deck into doing some coaching and to doing, some other offers. That's been a thing for me. And really just trying to navigate and having fun, in the life and in space. I mean, so much of my time is either like me being a professional in my first career in television or the professional with my card deck and hugeness and the battery.
00:01:27:06 - 00:01:36:06
Sky
And then it's like, where's the fun for me? And trying to figure out how they, work in ways that feel good. That's kind of what my life's been.
00:01:36:07 - 00:01:50:22
Luna
Okay. So in all of those updates, I didn't hear a single thing about sex in any sort of explicit way. Has there been time for you to have pleasure in all the adulting that you're doing?
00:01:51:00 - 00:02:19:07
Sky
So there's definitely been a little bit of a struggle making space for interplay. Me and my partner both work very hectic schedules, so finding time and making time can be interesting. I definitely do events. So one of the things like when I do an event like, I did one maybe two weeks ago where I hosted a game night and that was moments.
00:02:19:09 - 00:02:46:00
Sky
It's maybe not personally the people that I want to play with, but I get to have so much fun. Donning a room full of people through the interaction of play. In my deck. So getting to experience, getting people naked, getting to experience, watching them paddle and make each other and sharing fantasies like, I think I ended the game doing a masturbation demo.
00:02:46:00 - 00:03:09:20
Sky
You know, just like things like that where it was, it's just fun, you know? I had a few experiences where I was actually on a job not that long ago. While I was on the project. I met someone that was interesting, and we did a little stretch session that got a little steamy playing.
00:03:09:21 - 00:03:15:19
Luna
What is a steamy stretch session mean? That sounds like I want one. What does that like? How does that unfold?
00:03:15:21 - 00:03:53:13
Sky
I'm a certified yoga instructor. This particular person was, interested in having me stretch them out, and I felt like there was some, some flirting, some sexual chemistry there that was happening. And in the process, the stretch that was definitely revealed that there was some psycho chemistry and some flirting there. So being able to like, you know, rubbing massage them very sensually on their eyes, on their back, you know, things that were maybe a normal check in, just in posturing.
00:03:53:15 - 00:04:14:14
Sky
I get to be a little bit more flirty and fill them up a little bit and watching them, like, melt in the process. That's super fun. And it was an impromptu. It's not like it was a it was a client. This was somebody that was like, genuinely trying to get to know me. So that was a really it was a really fun kind of okay, let's see where this goes.
00:04:14:14 - 00:04:42:14
Sky
Maybe we'll be friends and play later or something like that. So, I get to do and I still have those types of moments. And also like making friends that are cool with, like, sharing content. You know, we always go on Twitter and, you know, places like that and you can see, you know, a whole stream of random performers and sex workers and stuff like that.
00:04:42:16 - 00:05:10:16
Sky
I think, like, familiar, I want to call it a familiar form of people that you're like, you know, that you're like, oh, that's hot. And you can like exchange and interact with them in a way that's like genuine and celebratory or something. I really kind of enjoy. Yeah. It's like, you know, there are things that especially maybe in my life, I might not post all of my things in the public, but I might be like, oh, this is a thing.
00:05:10:16 - 00:05:26:22
Sky
And I like, post it or send it to a friend. Like, what do you think of that? Like that. And those exchanges seem to be really fun because you get the direct feedback, maybe not from the whole world, but from people that genuinely want to connect with.
00:05:27:00 - 00:05:50:23
Luna
What what does genuine mean for you in this context? Because I'm in a moment where I've been like, yeah, I'm going to collaborate with my sex worker friends. And like, that's been a little bit true. And then also the outreach to strangers. I'm like, oh shit, I guess I have a lot of work to do on my social skills, or like, I'll find myself in a place where I think we're headed toward, you know, maybe not like a romantic connection or an ongoing connection, but something that's just like real and shared and concrete.
00:05:50:23 - 00:06:10:17
Luna
And then I'm like, oh, oh, that's just a job for them. Or like, oh, I thought we were like, because my, my, like, big love is like work friends like I that's the, you know, I mean maybe you relate having a background in arts creation TV. Like my favorite part about being on set is we're all co-creating. And then I'm like, if we can add slutty stuff to that, that's the best.
00:06:10:17 - 00:06:27:18
Luna
But I think I'm in this new era of being like, oh shit, there's like layers of social signals and cues and just like, how do you find yourself getting on the same page? And how do you know from your inner barometer or whatever tools you use to figure out if it's your definition of genuine?
00:06:27:20 - 00:06:55:17
Sky
Yeah, that's something that has taken me a quite a bit of time myself to figure out. I think one, because we're creatives and we're so used to being in these bubbles and containers where it's like you walk in into strangers on maybe the first day or the first couple of hours, and then you go through this really insane situation and now you're like, you feel like a family, or you feel like you're very close with someone while you're within that container.
00:06:55:17 - 00:07:20:15
Sky
And then, you know, that's in a lot of ways become, oh, this was a job, or this was, just us making it through whatever this trial situation was together, you know, as a unit. So I think for me, finding that genuine connection has been like figuring out what people I really just genuinely like and making sure that we actually like each other in a real way.
00:07:20:17 - 00:07:45:23
Sky
How how I think eye contact and, like, communication is really important. So, the eye contact I get from certain people, I'm like, you're fucking with me, aren't you? Like, I just come on, you really start to want me. You like. You like me? Yeah. You're you're cool. Like I talk you guys out of this, you know, or I don't really genuinely want to get to know you outside of this.
00:07:45:23 - 00:08:11:00
Sky
And I make that very clear. Or I, confirm that presumption in the moment. And I say, all right, maybe this is what we're going to do. And I set the intention there so that it's not, ambiguous. And if they continue to follow through with it, then it works. If they don't or you feel like the vibe is changed, man, it's cool.
00:08:11:01 - 00:08:20:17
Sky
It was nothing, you know, lost or won, we just move on. So that's been something I've been really intentional about with people I've been meaning as of recent.
00:08:20:18 - 00:08:21:03
Luna
Okay.
00:08:21:04 - 00:08:39:21
Sky
And I feel like you're one of those people. Like I say, we like we we genuinely, before I came to Next door, is the first time I have followed this like a year. And I just, like, loved your stuff, like your collages. And I was like, damn, we we have so much in common. It wasn't until I got in the show I was like, yeah, we really do have something in common.
00:08:39:21 - 00:09:03:23
Sky
But I know at that moment it was like, I was one of many interviews and you kind of get things rolling. So it's like, where do you sometimes it's not the moment to, continue connection. Sometimes that takes multiple interactions before you get the opportunity to say, hey, yeah, we we really are cool. You really can reach out to talk to me.
00:09:04:01 - 00:09:35:00
Sky
And, maybe in the last year, I've been a little bit more intentional about trying to make that connection because it is very difficult for us, especially when we work in sex or at least work talking about it at work in media, it becomes very convoluted as to who really enjoys being around us, who wants to profit from us, who, enjoys what we do but they don't actually like us.
00:09:35:02 - 00:09:59:12
Sky
These are all layers of things that you have to, you know, take time to process. And it's it's ongoing for everyone. Especially now that we live in a society that's very cloud driven. So many people are interested in what they can get out of a situation and not necessarily really being originally get to know each other.
00:09:59:13 - 00:10:33:08
Luna
Do I feel like I'm waking up very, very slowly to all of this? Because I feel like I just have I'm like looking back and I'm like, you know? And how much of that is telling myself a new story with different pieces, and we're going to see what we're expecting to see to right. And so I'm, I feel like lately I've been in this space where I've just received what's felt like so much surprising input from people who seem to want stuff but don't necessarily want to, like, meet me in my desires or in my kind of like project initiations.
00:10:33:08 - 00:10:56:03
Luna
And so I'm like, okay, well, maybe I can make better invitations, or maybe I need to make invitations more clearly to more specific people. So how do you navigate? And maybe, maybe it's helpful for us to hear kind of specifically like if you're talking about like sex work content that you're creating or just like dates, but like, how do you sort of like decide I'm hearing genuine spark.
00:10:56:03 - 00:11:11:12
Luna
I'm hearing desire for connection. But like, how do you navigate and decide who you want to have the overlap time with, right? Whether it's for work or just personal play, it also sounds like you're doing more work than personal play right now. Or am I getting that right? Right. Try to feel into your texture.
00:11:11:14 - 00:11:22:21
Sky
Yeah, it's it's it's definitely more work than personal play. But I'm being very intentional about finding friends or people, you know, playmates that could fit that personal play situation.
00:11:22:23 - 00:11:31:08
Luna
Okay. Like how though, are you, like meeting them through Twitter? Are you going on like, dating apps and or like, who wants to co-create content or am I completely misunderstanding you.
00:11:31:10 - 00:11:52:22
Sky
Know, I, I, I do spend time on like Twitter and I look around and stuff. I don't really engage people I don't know. They're, for the most part, when it comes to people I want to connect with. I've either made some type of in-person contact with them, or we have something in common that makes us, you know, connect.
00:11:52:22 - 00:12:17:09
Sky
So, as an example, with the person I did the stretch with, it was I met them, you know, on the job in person. And this was not an expected or intended situation. And it was like, okay, their answer sometimes I just, I just get this, I don't know, it's like a spidey sense. I just get this thing, like, do I need to go talk to them?
00:12:17:11 - 00:12:43:09
Sky
I don't know what about you, but I feel like there's something there. Right? And then once I go and I start poking and dig in, and you're a great interviewer, so you know how to ask certain questions and, you know, reading body language, I'm like, oh, okay, you're still starting. But now that I've gotten you into this conversation, you're real squirmy and you're like, okay, you like me a little bit.
00:12:43:15 - 00:13:20:13
Sky
There's something here. Okay. You know, so learning theory, you know, some of that body language and then being really, intentional about giving them the opportunity to make the connection with me. So I always genuinely ask, how do you like to communicate? Would you like to stay in touch and would you be interested in, like, offer? You know, I think, by doing that, it gives me a barometer of where they are and what they maybe have tolerance for.
00:13:20:15 - 00:13:40:02
Sky
And then from there, I kind of see how things develop. Yeah, I think that's that's probably the main thing that I do. I'm really good about, shooting my shot and taking people's temperature and figuring out, like, what, what time are you really are.
00:13:40:04 - 00:13:42:00
Luna
What does that mean?
00:13:42:02 - 00:14:14:01
Sky
Some people are on this time of like, okay, I like you, I like you, but I can tell that we're not maybe meant to have a sexual connection. I think you and I really connect on this, and we're going to lean in on. We're super creative and we like comic books and art and that kind of stuff. So, you know, we kind of I kind of flood our conversation with that so that we build a baseline connection.
00:14:14:03 - 00:14:41:17
Sky
Oh, you really like wine and winemaking? Oh, I really I just started making wine and winemaking. We're going to connect on that and then we'll see if there's something else that buds from this particular thing and say, hey, I just started making wine. I've got two batches. You're way more experienced. I would love to lean on your experience and see, you know, if you could help me out or if you could taste my stuff or, you know, I'm during that connection.
00:14:41:17 - 00:14:45:14
Sky
I mean, I may what might possibly be a playmate from that, you know?
00:14:45:14 - 00:14:47:11
Luna
Is that real? You're making wine.
00:14:47:13 - 00:14:49:12
Sky
Yeah. That's real. Wow.
00:14:49:12 - 00:15:01:07
Luna
Cool. In the example you gave of your stretch friend when you met them at work, was that a, like, straight edge work job or was it a sex work related job? Sex related work.
00:15:01:07 - 00:15:24:02
Sky
Jobs? No, it was a straight edge. It was a straight edge job. Okay. My first career is in television and broadcast, so I end up and again, a lot of unique situations. We ended up having, minute off the clock. You know, I was kind of off the clock and didn't have much going on. And we made space for that to happen.
00:15:24:04 - 00:15:48:07
Sky
But there also, you know, that was one thing that's always interesting. You always end up somewhere weird. It's never normal working on like, TV shows and things like that. Like you're on a set sometimes you're on a soundstage sometimes. But you could also be in a house. You know, I worked on one show. It was a reality show, and we were in a house, for like a month.
00:15:48:12 - 00:16:10:15
Sky
And I remember on the wrap out I brought like a girlfriend of mine at the time to that house because we were I was there to pick up some stuff, and they give away stuff at the end of the show, and it was relatively empty. And I remember, like, I pulled her into the bathroom, you know, in session, in the bathroom, you know, and.
00:16:10:17 - 00:16:11:19
Luna
00:16:11:21 - 00:16:41:19
Sky
Yeah. So, you know, it's like finding spaces and opportunities when it feels right and it doesn't have to always go to, like, anything penetrative. But it's really just like being open to having fun and making the connection with people. And when is there and there really it can be like really electric real fast. So, I just try to be aware of those moments and, take them really candidly.
00:16:41:21 - 00:17:04:08
Luna
So fun. So what like specifically has your sex life looked like lately? Like, do you are you masturbating? It sounds like you have a partner, but your schedules don't align. It sounds like maybe you're also making some content and then you're like, open, you know, open for these opportunities during parties or wherever. Yeah. But like what? What is kind of like landscape wise.
00:17:04:08 - 00:17:06:10
Luna
Like what's it like?
00:17:06:12 - 00:17:34:00
Sky
Yeah. Definitely masturbating. So it's been interesting. My partner like, leaves very early in the morning and, usually brings me a little breakfast play and will give me kisses in bed and I almost never can go to sleep after that, like, never. So I was like, they were outdoor and I'm like, I'm up. And I'm of like, okay.
00:17:34:02 - 00:18:13:00
Sky
So my early mornings are usually like, self-love play time. Most of the time I will just peak. But, you know, sometimes I go to completion and both are fun because I can use that as, my mental time, whether it's, thinking about what I want to do with my partner, workshopping ideas, either for content or for, things in my professional sometimes, just like that was such a good idea that if I did this and I did that.
00:18:13:01 - 00:18:40:00
Sky
Oh, yeah, that's the one. And it's like, next thing I know, I've made. You know, a piece of vanilla content that, you know, was really just like, yeah, that was a great thought, you know? So, sometimes it's what I'm imagining. Could be a great play session with, a potential playmate or with, a group session with my partner and someone else.
00:18:40:02 - 00:18:55:13
Sky
Yeah. I have, like, this revolving door of, desires and kinks that I'm always just, kind of thumbing through the book and seeing what what page I end up on that day.
00:18:55:15 - 00:19:12:01
Luna
Okay. When you're making stuff, are you, like, in charge of all of it, or do you have, like, a crew you work with? Is it like solo stuff? Is it like POV stuff? Like, what's your actual, like slutty creation process? Like?
00:19:12:03 - 00:20:00:19
Sky
So for now, I'm not filming. I'm mostly writing. So what happens is I will I will, have thoughts about certain things, or I would have researched certain things. If it's for a story that I'm researching, you know, background and character and locations and things like that. But the actual scene itself of how they get there, you know, like the way we tell ourselves or, you know, we read stories or we watch stories and we're like, oh, they walked into the room and, this person's wearing this, and they look like that, and they do that like, I'm almost writing the script of how the interaction goes.
00:20:00:21 - 00:20:29:00
Sky
Start to finish. If I'm masturbating in there and I session in, like, I'm going over it again and again and again and I'm, like, making it feel perfect to what the fantasy is for me. And I know it's good because I can feel my arousal going up. And if it's not good, then I'm going to go back to the beginning of the clip and, you know, work through that edit again and again.
00:20:29:03 - 00:20:58:07
Sky
Oh that's better. Oh. Wait. If I do that better, I just keep building the lines. And in that process, it allows me to really write some sexy pieces, that I'm going to enjoy dropping. It's probably a book at some point, but also, as some, scenes that I would love to, to make. So that's kind of what that process has been like.
00:20:58:09 - 00:21:12:18
Sky
I love it, and I always like to, fancy some aspect of my characters off real people just because it gives it something more tangible to hold on to, you know?
00:21:12:20 - 00:21:39:10
Luna
Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I love that. Right. Your fantasy is literally into existence. It's that's sort of what I'm working on. It's funny because I'm look, I'm using a lot of my slutty journal entries from the past and revisiting them, rewriting some of it to be shareable on Patreon is like an intermediate step, like I've been. Instead of just telling my my stories out loud with my mouth, I'm much better if I actually just organize them.
00:21:39:10 - 00:21:56:10
Luna
You know, anyone who's been listening to me for a while knows that I'm kind of a stumbling talker, because too many ideas want to come out of my head at once. And so if I just sit down and get in the written flow, then then I can be. I don't know if I'm spending my Saturdays just writing 2 to 4000 word stories, but I then am like sharing on Patreon, which is really, really fun.
00:21:56:10 - 00:22:17:16
Luna
Or now revamping old stuff. But I've been thinking a lot about all of my giant fantasies for the future and how just what if I did just write them into existence? What if I did just write out the story of, you know, the giant super brothel creation space, hotel creation like fantasy space that I want. And so I think that's, that's what I've been dabbling in lately.
00:22:17:16 - 00:22:34:08
Luna
And I think I might share that, I don't know, we'll see what, you mentioned, like lists of kinks or things that you love that you kind of, like are whatever comes into your mind. Like, what is some of that? What has been bubbling up for you lately? And or is there anything else that you're, like, wanting to explore right now?
00:22:34:10 - 00:22:59:23
Sky
As all kind of shape is? I mean, literally like when I look at how long your list is, like, mine is not mirrored, but it's so much stuff that I'm just like, oh, help me sign up on my artist side, I guess I love, like, I want to do more body paint, but not just like to be good at it, but to sort of have it as a fun, erotic experience with, partners and in small groups.
00:23:00:01 - 00:23:01:17
Luna
I don't know if that's even on my list.
00:23:01:22 - 00:23:03:00
Sky
I also want to like.
00:23:03:00 - 00:23:04:08
Luna
Because what a sensory thing.
00:23:04:09 - 00:23:36:06
Sky
Yeah, I think that's something that. Yeah, it is. I really enjoy the feeling of it against the skin. And it's also, a great way to, like, give intention to the wearer. Like, they get all these really interesting sensory feelings, whether it's a brush or a sponge or the a coldness, the temperature play, the paint going on the body, it's like body paint and tape and things like that.
00:23:36:07 - 00:23:42:06
Sky
I've been less interested in shooting because that really does feel like work for me most of the time.
00:23:42:08 - 00:23:58:03
Luna
Wait, is it video or photos too? Like, for me, stills are like breathing, but if I have to like set up a video that I'm in, that feels like way more work. But it's also like, I love capturing everything and I sort of just want to shoot everything in slo mo. And then I'm like, stop, what are you doing?
00:23:58:03 - 00:24:02:10
Luna
You don't even organize your footage, okay, I.
00:24:02:12 - 00:24:24:23
Sky
Yeah. So I mean, like, I love the ideation of putting together shoots. But the actual process of putting together what is I production where the shoot for me is, like, work. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Like your dragon picture that you just posted. Like, the first thing I think about all my artwork, there's lighting, there's camera, there's a sad.
00:24:25:01 - 00:24:28:07
Sky
There's like, my mind goes like, please, just.
00:24:28:09 - 00:24:49:09
Luna
Let me take you behind the scenes of that because I'm going to turn you around. Literally. That's my photo backdrop over there. And I used just one that big, like the big circle light there. And I was like, I never like, I'm only ever taking selfies in the mirror like, I need to, I should I love this tail.
00:24:49:09 - 00:25:04:14
Luna
I should just okay. And so I just pulled down the white backdrop really quick, brought out the one big light, and I was like, all right, you get 50 shots. And so I just set up, you know, to I love to use a 2 or 3 second intervalometer. And so I just, you know, and I've, I was like, oh, I'll do the low angle.
00:25:04:14 - 00:25:19:16
Luna
I'll know when I'm going. And like most of them were shitty, but like ten of them were good, you know. And so I've done that part enough where I'm like, I know how to just like, I mean, headshots were my bread and butter for once. Maybe I'll go back to headshots and just stop doing sexy things for a minute.
00:25:19:16 - 00:25:42:20
Luna
I don't know, but, like, that's that's I'm really in a phase where I'm wanting it to be as simple and fun and easy as possible, because that's where the pleasure comes for me, and that's for me in shooting, especially if it's like erotic or slutty when I have to slow everything down for camera. I think it harms everyone, like everyone involved.
00:25:42:20 - 00:26:08:04
Luna
Like it's not as fun. But if if I can just like, how do I say I love making slutty content on mobile? You know, like if I'm just holding, like, I've been making a lot of stuff for creators just with iPhones. Like the sensors are great. Like if you have good natural lighting or like decent dark time lighting, or I put it all just in, you know, one space, then I can, as long as I'm not, like, stepping in front of it, like, shoot really good and just capturing the flow.
00:26:08:04 - 00:26:29:21
Luna
So for me, all of the erotic creation, like, I totally feel you and I've been like talking to more of my friends who are like doing porno features. And I'm like hearing their process and hearing what it's like because they're bringing on mainstream people. You know, like, I had a friend that was on one of Casey Culver sets and I was just like, interesting, you know, and I and while part of me is like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I want to blend the erotic with the mainstream and bring all of it together.
00:26:29:21 - 00:26:54:08
Luna
There's another part of me that's like, moving quickly and just letting it be easy is part of what turns me on. And I think it comes through in the creation. Do you know what I mean? And so that's that's what I've been also like figuring out in terms of like, because I'm finding that people who want to hire me as an erotic creator, some of them want the big fancy feeling of like, and then we do the take and then we do this and we do that.
00:26:54:08 - 00:27:15:06
Luna
And I certainly can shout someone through, you know, for not using sound like I can get their bodies and certain angles because I have so much experience doing that as a still photographer. But I'm like, just do your thing. Let me follow. Have you had anyone do that for you? Are you usually like, have you have you been making video content or is it only like exchanging stuff with other clubs, like solo stuff?
00:27:15:07 - 00:27:31:02
Sky
I kind of solo stuff, like exchange stuff like that. So it's mostly, I'm very aware of like what my two careers are and not being so public about that part of my, oh, I see.
00:27:31:02 - 00:27:33:09
Luna
So you're like a you're like a new film.
00:27:33:11 - 00:27:52:00
Sky
Yeah. I guess you could say that I don't, if I'm saying brands and things like that. Now I'm saying, yeah, if I'm saying things like, you know, people I know and I like, then I don't care. But as far as, like, trying to do things for the public, I don't really do, like public stuff. I'm not public stuff as artsy.
00:27:52:05 - 00:28:02:01
Sky
So, you know, you'll see me like nude at the beach or doing yoga nude or things like that. You won't really see the erotic stuff so much.
00:28:02:03 - 00:28:10:09
Luna
Got it. Okay, okay. I think I just got confused because of what we were talking about right before this. Okay, okay. But is that on your horizon? Like you.
00:28:10:11 - 00:28:42:21
Sky
So in my mind, I bounce back and forth between wanting to be like the naked director. If you saw that show on Netflix and he's basically like, one of the kings of porn in Japan from the 80s, and like, Revolution to the revolutionize the way that they made content. I'm somewhere between, like, someone like him and really wanting to be, a behind the scenes sort of, creator.
00:28:42:23 - 00:29:08:16
Sky
Because I'm shifting, you know, kind of. What are you talking about? Off camera was like, it's been very difficult in my business to get the message out and to get sales, get funding, get advertisements, because sex is so taboo. Or there's just this ton of conversation about being, you know, in your body and loving yourself and, exploration.
00:29:08:16 - 00:29:12:10
Sky
All that stuff has been very heavily censored in the last few years.
00:29:12:10 - 00:29:18:03
Luna
I was gonna say it feels like increasingly to me, but I might just be in that bubble. But it sounds like, yeah, I feel that.
00:29:18:04 - 00:30:07:15
Sky
No, it's it's definitely increasingly it was like it was one thing when it just wasn't something people were aware of like that. And it just kind of was like fringe. But now it feels more like there is an attack on bodies and that work and the opportunities to put content in spaces that could be helpful for people. So I'm really toeing the line of, in my personal life, wanting to have all the fun and being the wildest like ever, and being a professional who shifts the conversation around communication and, how we talk about desire, how we talk about safety, and how we communicate the things that are important to us.
00:30:07:17 - 00:30:27:11
Sky
So I'm always kind of like tiptoeing that line, that tightrope on how much I went out of the bag one way or the other. But tremendously, I'm here for all the fine you. My first thing I want to have all the fun. I want to do all the things. I love being at the nude beach.
00:30:27:13 - 00:30:57:11
Sky
I love running around with cartwheels and backflips, but naked. I love exploring people's values and their desires. It's something I really find compelling. You know, it's sexy to be able to talk to people that you're genuinely interested in, even if you don't want to have a physical relationship with them and hear about what they think is high and see, how they enjoy themselves or how they enjoy playing with or connecting with partners.
00:30:57:11 - 00:31:18:19
Sky
I think that's just fascinating. And it's very humanizing. When you get that opportunity to connect with the total stranger or someone that you know, but you don't know really well, and then you have this like, bonding moment of like, oh, I love that too. That's how have you tried blah, blah, blah. And you know, it, it really isn't.
00:31:18:21 - 00:31:44:19
Sky
Moments like bring people together and not like tear them apart, you know, there's so much stuff in our world wants us to be, separated, you know, and that feel like we're comfortable enough or good enough or, because you look this way or follow this, you can't enjoy the same things I do like. It's crazy.
00:31:44:21 - 00:32:09:07
Luna
Sometimes I feel like the more that I learn about the world, and the more that I learn about people, the more I'm like, it makes even less sense. Now what? Yeah, and I don't know if that's just like the stories I'm telling myself in this particular moment, but I would love to hear what else is lighting you up or turning you on that I haven't asked about, you know, like, what's happening in Sky Win's life or experience or existence, you know, or whatever else is on the horizon.
00:32:09:07 - 00:32:13:08
Luna
Like what? What don't I know to ask about yet?
00:32:13:10 - 00:32:29:08
Sky
I am really searching for new ways to make connections that feel good in my business and my personal, you know, and I don't want to sit here and, like, keep pitching out my business. But let's say.
00:32:29:08 - 00:32:34:10
Luna
Your business, what's kind of like. What are you referring to? Tell us that just in case someone out there wants to.
00:32:34:12 - 00:33:05:06
Sky
So hedonism into battery is, my company is a, communications based wellness company. Had to shift my language several times the way you you're doing the same, sex stories. And we put the first card that global market to center consent. I've shifted into doing some coaching. So for people who maybe don't feel as comfortable in their bodies or don't feel as comfortable with communicating their desires, you can do coaching with me.
00:33:05:08 - 00:33:39:02
Sky
I'm a certified yoga instructor, so I do yoga courses. I do, workshops on being comfortable nude, exploring your desires and bringing erotic play into your life and game nights. So it's really an opportunity to really drop into your physical body and, shift your experience and how you communicate with the people around you. That's what my business is in my personal, like I said, it's figuring out how to have fun with the things that I've made my work.
00:33:39:04 - 00:33:53:03
Sky
So the same way you talk about, in a lot of your episodes, you know, your your work is your play, figuring out where the lines in the sand are, you know, where this is just work and this is play and this is you playing at work.
00:33:53:09 - 00:34:08:03
Luna
Do you have lines? I don't think I have lines, and I think that's actually where I have a problem, but not because I need lines. It's because of the confusion that I was talking about earlier where I'm like, I'm at work and I'm like, I love you in a work way. And then people are like, chill. I'm working, okay?
00:34:08:03 - 00:34:31:13
Luna
And I'm like, oh, you know? And then there are some portions of my work where that is the perfect, best skill, right? You know, but also, I feel like as a photographer slash filmmaker, I also don't have a distinction, but it's because I have never worked on a set that I, I mean, since my early days of doing like the money jobs, like I've been choosing projects that are like actually lighting me up.
00:34:31:13 - 00:34:47:17
Luna
And so I really like that, you know, so that, I am understanding that my confusion is maybe just because it's different lines from other people. But so do you have like, what are your lines look like? How do you think about them and when do you notice them?
00:34:47:19 - 00:35:12:08
Sky
I'm so aware of the lines. Okay. My yes, it's it's interesting because my like I said, my main career and I've spent my whole adult life working in production and television. Yeah, yeah, in every way possible. So I'm always like, the most professional person on the show. I like to have fun.
00:35:12:10 - 00:35:35:06
Luna
Yeah, I mean, but do you feel like. Because I also just, like, had a couple of auditions and had this moment of, like, how are they going to care that I'm doing all these slutty things? And I'm like, no, it's actually only like docu reality series where they even background check you. And so I had this moment where I'm like, wait a second, nobody in mainstream even really cares what I'm doing do.
00:35:35:08 - 00:35:44:04
Luna
And so I was like, wait, what? But I guess that's in front of the camera stuff, too. And so maybe it's different if I'm, I don't know.
00:35:44:06 - 00:35:46:06
Sky
Compared to being on the show.
00:35:46:08 - 00:36:00:17
Luna
But I'm like, I don't know. I mean, maybe it's I guess I haven't been trying to be like an on set person. I don't know what what jobs are you doing on set mostly, or like, what do you like the most when you're on set?
00:36:00:18 - 00:36:09:20
Sky
I like the most probably being in camera department, especially in broadcast. But I've done some of everything. I've done graphics, editing shows.
00:36:09:22 - 00:36:11:19
Luna
I feel like cameras, so much pressure.
00:36:11:19 - 00:36:13:00
Sky
Of some things.
00:36:13:02 - 00:36:27:09
Luna
I'm like, I don't want to have to check all the lenses. I don't want have to be in charge, or I feel like they're the most meticulous. Are you a Virgo? When's your birthday? You know, you know, if there's anything out loud, but I'm a Capricorn. Oh, okay. So that because there is that like fastidiousness and the attention to detail and all of that.
00:36:27:09 - 00:36:36:16
Luna
But like for like Capricorns, I'm like, I'm a Taurus. I'm like, let me just push it. I'll work really hard, but I need to have sensual pleasure. Okay. You know, like, give me chocolate.
00:36:36:18 - 00:36:38:08
Sky
Yeah.
00:36:38:10 - 00:36:42:08
Luna
Okay. Sorry. So. Okay. So you. So you're very aware of the lines.
00:36:42:10 - 00:37:03:01
Sky
Yeah. So, I mean, I was very because, like, starting early in my career, I was working with, you know, celebrities and big name people. That was very much. And I was young coming in. I was like, you know, 18, 18, coming into my career. So I was very aware of, like, this is your position, this is what you're supposed to do.
00:37:03:01 - 00:37:26:23
Sky
These are lines, you know, crossed these lines, you know, you know, talk to the director, you talk to the person above you in the department, if you have an idea, and they'll go talk to the director. You know, it was like these hierarchical things that came up. And as I moved across genres from, you know, scripted and music videos to reality to broadcast and kind of all the way back around again.
00:37:27:00 - 00:37:52:17
Sky
Yeah, I just learned how to drop into these different worlds and be like, all right, I'm here. What are we doing today? Okay. I'm this person today. And in the midst of me building my product and starting to really want to show my identity, I had to relearn how to erase some of those lines and say, all right, I'm here on the job, and this is what I'm supposed to be doing.
00:37:52:17 - 00:38:15:02
Sky
And once I've done everything I'm supposed to do, this is what I'm going to do. This is how I'm going to choose to connect with people. This is how I'm going to choose to find, who my people are, who's interested in me and what my offers are. And that was a big epiphany because there was so much, waiting for your time to move up or waiting for people to give you this opportunity.
00:38:15:02 - 00:38:33:13
Sky
And I had to, like, let that shit kind of go, like a lot of times in the this industry, they want to know you for what they know you for, and that's kind of it. So if your talent, your talent, you know, if you're talent that's made a name for yourself is talent, then you can be a talent that's a producer.
00:38:33:15 - 00:38:49:12
Sky
But if you're the camera person, you're the camera guy. I want to call you for that, you know? So there was a lot of, putting people in boxes that they wanted to see you the way they wanted to see you, and it didn't necessarily agree with me. Now, like I said, I go places, and I'm like, all right, I'm this person.
00:38:49:12 - 00:39:27:23
Sky
This week, Clark Kent is the person you hired me for. Superman is doing all kind of shit in the background that you don't even notice is happening. And that's a lot of how, how I navigate now is like, you know, that the moment of hanging out with the stress friend or the moment of, oh, I know I have a lot of time and leeway to invite someone to the, to this particular project to be in the audience or, hey, this particular artist or person might be really cool or interested in my product just based off of something else they do finance.
00:39:27:23 - 00:39:46:19
Sky
Having a sidebar about that, I make those moments and I'm very intentional about seeking out those moments, for all the things that make sense. So if I say you want to say it and I was like, okay, I know why, I don't know you, let's just pretend I didn't know you when I was like, I know there's a vibe there.
00:39:46:21 - 00:40:04:01
Sky
Let me go, I'm going to go, I'm going to make friend. Hey how are you doing? I'm going to ask you some questions. It might not be the right moment, but I'm going to like circle back and say, hey, what's up? What's going on? How are you feeling? I'm going to find whatever our vibe is. So the me you can be friends, whatever way that looks like.
00:40:04:01 - 00:40:29:02
Sky
And if I get the vibe like, oh, you're you're into me. Okay, then how do you want to communicate? While this was the best way to stay in touch with you. Okay. Check me out here. And I don't necessarily have personal pages, but if you follow me on my page, you're going to get a very different experience than you following me on my production page.
00:40:29:04 - 00:40:55:10
Sky
So typically, you know, in those instances, people would be like, so what do you do? Can you tell me more in just a squirming? I can you can tell me you work with like sex and stuff like, oh. And they're like, they're like, right. I'm like, are you I got you money. You come on in, let's have a conversation and let's see where the unfolding is for us, you know?
00:40:55:12 - 00:41:03:04
Sky
And, like I say, I'm just about making better opportunities to give that connection.
00:41:03:06 - 00:41:04:00
Luna
Than as.
00:41:04:00 - 00:41:05:17
Sky
I wanted. At the end of the day.
00:41:05:19 - 00:41:27:12
Luna
I do. I want connect. This entire podcast exists because I want a greater, deeper level of connection then I think most people do. And I am hearing increasingly most of the people that I'm talking to. Maybe it's just my little bubble. People are looking for intimacy. They're looking for connection. Real connection, like you were saying, genuine connection. And so I'm I'm like, all right, well, it's different for everyone to look like here.
00:41:27:12 - 00:42:02:23
Luna
And as I hear you talk and tell that story, I'm like, I think I've been missing some signals still. You know, with all my studying, with all of my everything, because I'm always so concrete and, and a book that I read a really early on, I think it's called The Likability Factor, talked about relevancy as a key component, like friendliness, relevancy, something else I don't remember, but like so my brain has always filtered like, well, if you are there and I am here and we are both doing jobs, but they're in parallel and we do not have crossover, then well, why would I look at your page?
00:42:03:00 - 00:42:17:11
Luna
You know, like I said, no, as I'm hearing you say, that exact example, I'm like, oh, that has happened to me a lot. In fact, it happened just this past week at a at a sex party. And this person was like, yeah, I mean, shameless plug. Like, here's my thing. And if you click my links, you can go look at all of my stuff.
00:42:17:11 - 00:42:37:01
Luna
And I'm just like, for what though? Like, why do you want me to look at it like, you know, like to what end? You know, and because and in part because I'm, I'm realizing in this moment now I'm like, because I get asked to do free work so often. Will you take pictures of me for free? Will you read my erotic writing for free?
00:42:37:01 - 00:42:53:13
Luna
Will you come teach me how to do sex for free? Will you fuck me for free? Like all of these things where I'm like, who are you? Excuse me? Like, do you want to try to build a relationship? I'm like, oh, so those little signals maybe are the attempts to build relationship, but it's completely lost on me because it doesn't.
00:42:53:13 - 00:43:01:15
Luna
Because I'm maybe such a concrete being that I'm like, I don't even understand some of the social lubrication. It's the story I'm making out of it in this moment. I'm going to keep noodling on that.
00:43:01:16 - 00:43:05:09
Sky
Sure. And and everybody's not necessarily straight forward. And that's the part.
00:43:05:11 - 00:43:16:13
Luna
Exactly. That's I mean, most people prefer to not be straight forward. And I'm understanding how my directness is a turnoff for a lot of people.
00:43:16:15 - 00:43:34:06
Sky
Yeah. I mean, you live in LA too, like I live in Atlanta. We both live in these like big metropolitan cities where there's a lot of entertainment, there's a lot of hand freezing going on, and people don't necessarily leave with their intentions. They leave with what they think is going to get them the result that they want. Yeah.
00:43:34:06 - 00:43:55:06
Sky
And it can be really hard to, figure out what people want from you if they don't just, yeah, tell you, you know, and that that was why I was like, you know, certain instances when I'm, when I know I'm shooting a shot with someone and I can see it's landing, but they're not giving me the response.
00:43:55:06 - 00:43:59:15
Sky
That's concrete. You know, I give them the option of how they want to connect.
00:43:59:17 - 00:44:12:03
Luna
I say, okay, but you're still not coming right out and saying, like, I think you're a babe. Maybe we could get to know each other. You're better. You're still kind of like leaving the ball in their court.
00:44:12:05 - 00:44:15:00
Sky
No, I might start with that. And like,
00:44:15:02 - 00:44:17:01
Luna
Oh my gosh. Oh, gosh.
00:44:17:03 - 00:44:37:23
Sky
Then they might not give me the straight answer. I'm like, okay, cool. I can tell that you are enjoying that. I might not in this very second because it feels like pressure and I'm very anti, making people feel pressure. But I might come back later and say, hey, did you want to did you want to stay connected?
00:44:38:01 - 00:45:00:05
Sky
How would you like to connect? And then based off of what platform they want to talk to, they say, oh yeah, here's my number. Okay then you like texted you at the top here. You like social media okay. Which one. And again I've got this set of profiles and that set of profiles. If I felt like you were giving me a signal that you might be interested.
00:45:00:07 - 00:45:23:16
Sky
I've got a whole Linktree for both of these profiles so I can say, hey, you are more. I can tell you're sort of interested in some type of sexual energy. I can feel it. I don't know if it's with me or if it's just you want to. That's something you're looking at exploring or sharing it. Maybe I'm a conduit for that, I don't know.
00:45:23:18 - 00:45:45:14
Sky
I'm going to send you in this direction. Once you get there, I know you're going to have a question. I know you're going to you're going to come back with a question. I guarantee if you're really into it. So it's me. Instead of, like, forcing the shot, I'm, like, rolling the ball real slow and letting you catch it and throw it back to me.
00:45:45:16 - 00:46:19:05
Sky
Yeah, yeah. And typically it works. It just is. It starts to be like, I think for people like, like you, you're very defined in what the interaction is. And I just learned I've learned to try to read people and where they are and ask the questions that inform me about the type of person they are so that I can give them the most power in the situation to respond to me in the way that I would like.
00:46:19:06 - 00:46:20:12
Sky
00:46:20:14 - 00:46:35:19
Luna
Interesting. I mean, it's not it's not for lack of trying. I really have spent the last six years like reading a bunch of books on people and doing human laboratory studies, but, I'm. Yeah, that's that's very interesting. How do you decide what you want to offer to another person?
00:46:35:21 - 00:47:01:19
Sky
I mean, again, I'm like you. So there's like this revolving door of, kinks and desires and interests. I genuinely try to figure out what I like about them. And then from there, I try to find out what we both like. So, for one person, I might, you know, let's say fitness is a thing, and I'm like, oh, you like fitness?
00:47:01:19 - 00:47:30:16
Sky
Well, I'm I'm an instructor. And you do what? Okay, maybe there's some intersection for us to make a play out of that. Whether it's working together or we're going to, do some real rough study workouts, right? If it's, someone who has more of an art interest. Oh, maybe I can help you with a project. Or we can share, what you're working on.
00:47:30:16 - 00:47:45:08
Sky
That's maybe not out. And I can give you some feedback in. Maybe we can just fuck around with our cameras every once in a while, and I can show you, some things that I don't plan on putting out, but I've always wanted to do them.
00:47:45:10 - 00:48:12:04
Luna
Interesting. So for you, there really is this openness to just seeing what unfolds. Like I'm hearing a very large amount of non attachment I think. Yeah. Like yeah. You know and it's, it's because some people I have encountered will say the same sets of words. However there really is an ulterior motive. And then when they don't get what they want there's a certain reaction.
00:48:12:06 - 00:48:26:16
Sky
Oh, you know, like, I generally come at the situation like, I don't, I don't actually care. Okay. We can have we can have fun together or we can work together or we can not do any of it. I don't give a fuck. Yeah. How do you want to connect with me?
00:48:26:18 - 00:48:27:14
Luna
You're open to continue.
00:48:27:19 - 00:48:35:18
Sky
Would you like to connect with me? And then we figure out what feels comfortable. What's this normal for us in that conversation?
00:48:35:20 - 00:48:39:19
Luna
Do you think there is such a thing as normal?
00:48:39:21 - 00:48:41:08
Sky
Normal for us?
00:48:41:10 - 00:48:43:09
Luna
What does that mean?
00:48:43:11 - 00:48:50:04
Sky
That means, like, what may be normal for me. And you might not be normal for me and another person.
00:48:50:06 - 00:48:57:06
Luna
How do you tell when you have found a new, newly defined normal between two people? Like how do you label it more?
00:48:57:07 - 00:49:04:12
Sky
Because it feels, I say not normalized as in it feels good. It feels comfortable is within our boundaries okay.
00:49:04:14 - 00:49:06:16
Luna
Like co-creating a baseline?
00:49:06:18 - 00:49:30:09
Sky
Yeah, it's a baseline. Okay, okay. It's crazy, you know? So if the baseline is yo, you post some stuff or I post something or I send it to, you can check it out. You can talk about it, you can send something back. And that is our normal exchange. And it's like, all right, it's cool. We're there and that's cool.
00:49:30:10 - 00:49:53:11
Sky
Like, I might not send those same things to someone else. Someone else might get that. And look at me like, what the hell are you talking about, sky? You know, so it's it's finding what what feels good for us and being okay with that is going to look different. And people's capacity levels are always going to be different.
00:49:53:11 - 00:50:23:19
Sky
So, one of the things I like to I've really enjoyed sharing is like, I like the animated porn. Okay. You can always go to like, Reddit and find these little animated porn clips of your favorite characters and stuff. And I enjoy that because going back to my writing, my own stories and fantasies, right? I can see an animated character doing things and I can immediately write myself in because it's not a real person.
00:50:23:19 - 00:50:46:05
Sky
Right? So one thing I like to do with potential playmates, instead of sending you two real people going at it, I might send you a clip. I'm like, that's hot. That could be fun for us to do. I love that I was thinking about writing you like that. Oh, this torture session looks like it would be amazing. Interesting.
00:50:46:06 - 00:51:18:16
Sky
You know, and for one particular playmate that was like, well, this is what I like. When you send me stuff, you. But this is a little too intense. And I was like, oh, okay. No, no, no, I'm cool with that. Also, is there anything else that you maybe want me to engage you. Right. Or shift and it's it's giving space to what that capacity level is and what, what can be normal in how we interact, you know.
00:51:18:18 - 00:51:32:04
Luna
Well I'm learning. So what else is on your like specific. Is there anything else that you're trying to cross off your bucket list right now or anything else that has happened recently? That's like a really hot story. You want to share? Hopes for the future?
00:51:32:06 - 00:52:09:17
Sky
Yeah, I'm definitely hoping in the near future. I'm working on my space right now. So I can have my studio, together for for work and for play. I'm really hoping that, like, before the the year is over, I can start hosting little gatherings, whether it's just with, 1 or 2 people or a small group of people and really have, like, play parties where it's not like, there's no goal in mind.
00:52:09:19 - 00:52:45:23
Sky
I just the thing will, they might be pain. The theme of the day might be us actually just playing funky games, you know, and everything being however, loose clothing, optional open play, if that feels right with whoever wants to play. Yeah, I really just. I want to, explore connecting with people I genuinely like. And trying all the things with them, you know, doubles, triples, groups.
00:52:46:01 - 00:52:48:03
Sky
Making barbecues.
00:52:48:05 - 00:52:51:15
Luna
Ooh. Do you have a backyard where that's possible?
00:52:51:17 - 00:52:54:21
Sky
I do. Oh, that's so cool.
00:52:54:23 - 00:53:02:20
Luna
I've been, like, really craving grass and dirt and trees. I love the city, but it's been. I'm coming up on 13 years. Or are you going to say.
00:53:02:22 - 00:53:13:23
Sky
Yeah. No. You posted something the other day. It was like, who has a who has a backyard? I can, I can garden in. And I was like, you do, I do, but you have to come to Atlanta and you're like.
00:53:14:00 - 00:53:30:12
Luna
Oh, yeah. I was like, is that a tea? Well, it also was like, for that specific day because it was like a special day that was related to that and almost like, I don't think that's a real invitation because I'm not going to get on a plane right now and go there. And also you're going to make me pay for my own plane ticket.
00:53:30:12 - 00:53:34:00
Luna
Girls have to get flown by boys places is what all my lady friends are telling you.
00:53:34:00 - 00:53:36:08
Sky
You want to give, you want to get it flew it out, I get it.
00:53:36:10 - 00:54:06:19
Luna
That's what I mean. They were like, you can't just do that for photography shoots. You have to just. You can never. The instruction that I received from my lady friends is you are never allowed to chase a cock like that again. Not for free. So I don't know. I mean, I have some mentors in my life that are having some very serious conversations with me about value and self value and how if I want to be valued in these certain ways, then here's how I need to show up in the world.
00:54:06:21 - 00:54:23:10
Luna
Which is not to say I don't like those teases and stuff, but I'm also just like. Because also I'm like, is this a mean joke? Or is it like, I know that I'm really filter, I'm really practicing filtering because I'm like, well, obviously he doesn't mean I'm going to come out today, but does that mean he wants to make a plan?
00:54:23:10 - 00:54:36:12
Luna
Or and then I just feel like. I just feel like a robot that got put in flesh and blood and I'm like this, I don't like this. This is unfair.
00:54:36:14 - 00:54:43:05
Sky
Yeah. No. If that for that particular instance, it was I was being, I was being funny.
00:54:43:06 - 00:54:53:07
Luna
No, you explained it to me because I'm. You're someone that I'm comfy with, and so I could literally insta message you and be like, what do you mean? And then you're like, here is what I mean.
00:54:53:09 - 00:55:01:01
Sky
Yeah. When when I get my when I get my space together, you definitely have an open invite to come out and hangout. We can figure out what that looks like another day.
00:55:01:03 - 00:55:02:07
Luna
So naked barbecues.
00:55:02:07 - 00:55:02:17
Sky
You know, you.
00:55:02:17 - 00:55:08:11
Luna
Have to be careful not to have grease. Oh, yeah. Butter on your beautiful uncooked skin.
00:55:08:11 - 00:55:14:14
Sky
I'm a naked chef, so I call you much every night naked. So I've. I've got it to a science.
00:55:14:18 - 00:55:33:09
Luna
I know I get really time every time I cook. I mean, I don't cook very many splattering things while naked anymore or I remember to put a robe on, but I have I've gotten so many burns from being naked and cooking stuff and.
00:55:33:11 - 00:55:35:06
Sky
Really? Yeah.
00:55:35:08 - 00:55:40:03
Luna
Yeah. Not scars, but. Yeah. Okay. So you're an excellent naked chef, so maybe.
00:55:40:03 - 00:55:41:18
Sky
Is that something that we're careful.
00:55:41:20 - 00:55:44:19
Luna
Okay. That's good. Yeah. I'm like.
00:55:44:21 - 00:56:13:23
Sky
Yeah. I was actually thinking about at one point doing a like naked cooking series. Because I make so many different types of recipes and, I felt like being able to showcase one just and different things that you can make that are not necessarily difficult but aren't simple. And showing what that looks like in a kitchen and just being like, normal.
00:56:14:01 - 00:56:27:14
Sky
Yeah. I feel like so many things are ultra performative and like, I really just, you know, I'm here. I'm hanging out, I'm having a beer, and this is what this dish is, you know, I want to make. I thought about making some things like that, though.
00:56:27:16 - 00:56:47:04
Luna
I love that, because also, for me, I mean, as a hedonist myself, as a proper tourist, like food. Food is really a big part of my love languages, you know, like it's that sensuality like that is hedonism. And then the naked part I guess, be the departure receipts where it goes. Have you ever, like, incorporated play into the kitchen?
00:56:47:04 - 00:57:01:11
Luna
Like have you ever had, you know, because one time I was baking a cake for a friend's birthday, I was like, mixing the batter. And I had a partner over who was very eager, like, didn't want to. I was like, I have to put this cake in the oven. He's like, I can't wait. And I was like, well, unless you want to go down on me while I'm beating in these eggs.
00:57:01:11 - 00:57:05:18
Luna
He's like, for reals. And I was like, yeah. And then he did, hey, you know. So I was like.
00:57:05:23 - 00:57:07:09
Sky
Oh, I your eggs.
00:57:07:09 - 00:57:22:05
Luna
Well, I was making eggs in his like he was like on the floor, like mouth up on me. And I was like, okay, wow. Our power dynamic has really shifted, but okay. You know, it was hot. Is that something you've gotten to play with yet, or would you be interested in?
00:57:22:07 - 00:57:26:22
Sky
I have, it's not that often. I'm sort of serious in the kitchen.
00:57:27:00 - 00:57:28:05
Luna
I get it, I totally.
00:57:28:05 - 00:57:37:14
Sky
Get. I turn it into me, I turn it into, like, a chopped. Yeah. Turned into a chop shift while I'm in the kitchen, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm looking at times and.
00:57:37:16 - 00:57:43:22
Luna
You are a top, right? Like you're pure. Are you? Are you ever switching?
00:57:44:00 - 00:57:48:20
Sky
I switch like, as an example. I love being a robot bunny. Like.
00:57:49:00 - 00:58:02:01
Luna
But I'm like, is there a world in which you would have a partner be like, no, no, focus on your cooking, and I'm going to use you as my toy. Don't get distracted.
00:58:02:03 - 00:58:09:08
Sky
That's a good question. I'm already so much like that. I don't think that would be that hard, but,
00:58:09:10 - 00:58:15:21
Luna
No, no, if someone else was trying to destroy you. I'm just curious. I'm just brainstorming. I'm just in brainstorming mode. You can turn me off at any time. Yeah.
00:58:15:21 - 00:58:34:08
Sky
No, I'm, I'm thinking there have probably been some instances where, you know, my partner comes home and she's actively trying to play with me while I'm cooking or trying to finish the meal. Yeah. And she, Isn't that a blip? I think actually, that's the thing.
00:58:34:10 - 00:58:53:16
Luna
Oh, but biting me, I get, you know, if I'm if I'm for real, focused on a task, I'm like, stop, you know? But if I'm like, down too distracted or it's like, not a timing issue, you could like because I'm very big on texture for food. And timing is a big part of that. Right. And so I'm like, if you're going to like, make me turn those vegetables squishy or now I'm going to burn this.
00:58:53:19 - 00:59:10:15
Luna
Like, if that's at risk, I will lay down the boundary. But if it's, you know, if I'm like, whatever, beating eggs. And it's I'm not making whipped cream. Right. Because that's very time sensitive. But like if there's something that's more of a sliding scale of, leeway, then I'm like, yeah, touch me, please touch me.
00:59:10:17 - 00:59:19:04
Sky
Oh, yeah. If the if, if, if the food is now at similar level, like, I don't have to watch this anymore and it's like simmering. You're going down.
00:59:19:06 - 00:59:20:08
Luna
Yeah.
00:59:20:10 - 00:59:28:02
Sky
I'm, I'm not just stirring the I'm not stirring the vegetables. I'm stirring your pot too. It's going,
00:59:28:04 - 00:59:54:22
Sky
Amazing. But yeah, you know, I, I love the temperature plays. I love that it's very warm in the kitchen. And then you get these other textures. There's a meme. Speaking of, you know, eggs and whipped cream and things like that. There's a there's a meme that's like, how you learn to eat pussy so well, and it's like the, the cake batter spinners.
00:59:55:00 - 01:00:06:07
Sky
Yeah. You know, and one is, like, licked perfectly clean, and the other one has the batter on it. And I'm like, that was my life. Like I was licking those things today. I will lick the bottom.
01:00:06:09 - 01:00:24:04
Luna
If you do. I still do also like if someone wants to take me to a nice dinner, they if they will be horrified by me, like putting my finger on the plate and licking everything. Look, the servers are never mad at me. At least not when my sister and I go out places. So if I'm ever with a date, that's, like, embarrassed by that.
01:00:24:04 - 01:00:48:18
Luna
We're not a fit. Because I'm like these things. Like, the chefs feel, flattered when I like to eat everything. It's that tasty. I get to lick every drop. Yeah. Okay. So if we suddenly lived in a world where everyone had to be a sex worker to serve their fellow man for at least two years, men, men being like mankind, people of all genders.
01:00:48:20 - 01:00:52:18
Luna
What type of sex worker would you be? How would you serve?
01:00:52:20 - 01:01:19:16
Sky
So I think you asked this question to other people, and I've thought about this a little bit. I'm stuck between two places on it. You can do one. Okay, so one, I think I would maybe want to be the like the actual performer, but do like ethical educational porn. Yeah. I think I content.
01:01:19:22 - 01:01:21:05
Luna
Yeah.
01:01:21:07 - 01:01:48:21
Sky
Yeah. And I also think I would be a really good sensual damn prepared. Slash torture. I think I would be a great torturer, too. So yeah, probably, probably spending half my time filming in the other half, wrecking people rehearsing.
01:01:48:23 - 01:02:16:19
Luna
I love that you could film educational, edgy, erotic content about how to wreck people. I love that, yeah. Okay. And your contribution to my Noodles of Future great pleasure Palace. Also, you're working on literally creating your own one. If you had an unlimited budget for a play space or castle or whatever sort of structure you want it to be, what elements would you definitely include?
01:02:16:19 - 01:02:25:22
Luna
What would you want to make sure happens at my future Pleasure Palace and or yours? You know, what's the sky, wind room and or wing like this?
01:02:26:00 - 01:02:53:15
Sky
Okay, so I thought about this at length. So for me, I need, like, a lot of space. Yeah, Me too. I'm someone who doesn't. I don't necessarily care about the gadgets I care about, like, the whole experience. So I would want it to be like somewhere between a resort and a farm with all the things on it.
01:02:53:17 - 01:02:58:05
Luna
Yes, yes. The creation. Right. We got it.
01:02:58:06 - 01:03:26:15
Sky
Yeah. You know, the pools, the hot tubs, asanas, the playrooms, the content room, stuff like that. But I want to have, like, an active adult playground. I feel like, you know, a jungle gym and, a gazebo that has all kinds of gadgets on it that you can either workout on or be strapped to, I think would be amazing.
01:03:26:15 - 01:03:28:13
Luna
I love it, yeah.
01:03:28:15 - 01:03:54:03
Sky
Obviously a full working content room so I could still make professional movies that are ultimately going to be like erotic thrillers. I need like one of those two story rooms with, like, the giant bed up top and then like the mini pool at the bottom so that you can like, go from swimming to sex on like a giant bed.
01:03:54:05 - 01:04:05:12
Luna
Ooh, okay. And have, like, tall boys and girls draw you off in between, perhaps. Or maybe like. Yeah, I'm imagining. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Wow.
01:04:05:14 - 01:04:34:19
Sky
They could stand in the corners, and be ready, like, one with the towel, one with the robe. And they're completely like, smoke shows. So you're like. Yes. You come with me. You know, definitely a dance floor. Like a nice, clean, club style dance floor, wood floor, mirrors and poles. Yeah. Somewhere you can really sweat it out.
01:04:34:21 - 01:05:09:00
Sky
It's basically like an adult ranch playground. You know, I want to have the animals, too. So, like horses and sheep and alpacas and stuff like that so that, you know, you can win, and goats, you know, one, so you can have fresh food. But yes. Yeah. To like who doesn't enjoy I enjoy riding horses. I enjoy like just that genuine love of being in nature and being in spaces where absolutely, you know, you can play and be, primal.
01:05:09:02 - 01:05:19:20
Luna
Yeah. Animals make people happy. It's a good it's a good balance to ground ourselves. Because that's the thing a lot of the sex spaces I've been to are so like sex, sex, sex. And I'm like, but I'm a whole person. Yeah. What, were you there?
01:05:19:22 - 01:05:22:20
Sky
Yeah. No, I thought about any. I need a giant trampoline, too.
01:05:22:22 - 01:05:48:20
Luna
Oh, yeah. That's funny. When you said bed up top, I was imagining, like, the stairs are also made out of beds, like big, wide ones. And so then I was imagining, like, bounce fucking down the stairs, like, that's what's coming into my head. One side and then. And that's the downstairs. But the way you go up the stairs if we don't have like at the smoke shows are busy getting like fucked by somebody else, then I'm like, maybe the, the part where you go up the stairs is like the drying part of a car wash.
01:05:48:22 - 01:06:03:11
Luna
You know, like it rinses you off at first down on the pool level and then, you know, you go through the tassels and the towels are. And then at the before you get in the because you want to be clean when you get in the bed and then make it dirty with your own juices again. Like, not not just like bring chlorine for the better.
01:06:03:11 - 01:06:06:14
Luna
Make it soggy so you definitely tramp it.
01:06:06:16 - 01:06:14:11
Sky
Maybe it's not a pool, just a giant tub. Yeah. What you see, like in the old school Playboy mansion kind of feeling where it's like, oh.
01:06:14:11 - 01:06:15:10
Luna
I love a giant.
01:06:15:12 - 01:06:19:19
Sky
Person in Florida. Yeah, yeah.
01:06:19:21 - 01:06:28:03
Luna
I love it. Well, you've really sparked my imagination today, so. Sky, wind. Wait, where can people find you on the internet? What's the best place for them?
01:06:28:05 - 01:06:34:02
Sky
Respectful play.com. Then you can hit the link tree and it'll send you to all the places.
01:06:34:04 - 01:06:39:21
Luna
Okay. Yeah. Sky, wind. Thank you so much for coming back and giving us your updates on sex stories.
01:06:39:23 - 01:06:42:15
Sky
Thank you for having me. It's always a pleasure to be in your company.
Comments