Filthy Rich In Love: GG on Love

Luna Robbie
Sep 12, 2024
21 min read

30s queer cis female, writer, actor, comedian, sensual artist, sexual assault survivor, into: strap-ons, physical touch, dirty talk, gangbangs, being worshipped

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GG's episode from September 2021 | Hyper-Catholic to Sugar Babe

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Luna

We are here today with the incredible, amazing Gigi Sauvage for a very brand new place, an experiment. And we're going to be talking about love today. Welcome, goddess.

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Thank you. I'm so excited to be here.

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Luna

I am so excited to have you here. As we're recording this, I think I'm going to call this segment Love Stories. We are working with some. We're working on Squiggling through some censorship issues. We're working on Squiggling through some. Obviously, you know that sex is my favorite, our favorite topic.

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Yeah.

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Luna

You, And I don't have your bio in front of me right now. I'm realizing that's okay, but, Gigi is a wonderful, incredible writer and incredible erotic artist. What? How else should I describe you?

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Yeah, I write for Cosmo about sex and relationships. And I write erotica, both for them, for boys, and on my own Substack. And I love helping people fuck away shame in their life and love themselves more. So love is a perfect subject to be centered on.

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Luna

Yeah, yeah. And we're going to start out with love. Where?

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So. Oh, that's that's messed up.

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Luna

Divine timing.

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But actually the person I'm in love with is the one who was calling. So.

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Luna

Okay, you know what?

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That's actually kind of crazy. Okay.

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Luna

I mean, it kind of makes sense, because you are also a powerful witch. Like a powerful, powerful, like love. Sorceress, healer, everything. So maybe you could start out by telling us your thoughts not to get a song stuck in everyone's head. But what is love? To you?

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You can't prep it with that. And then us not hear the song.

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Luna

I can't hear that phrase without thinking it in my head.

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What is love? Wow, that's a great question. Actually, it's something I'm kind of examining right now because I'm in love with a non-binary person for the first time. And, you know, sex looks different. Love looks different with each person. But I am feeling a deeper, expansive love than I have with men I've dated. And so I've actually been questioning, oh, is this what love is?

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And I thought I was in love before, and now I'm really am. But I feel like it's this thing that happens in your mind, body and soul, that kind of like takes over and drives you to do x, y, z. Like love it. Love is like a motivator that lives in you. And, it makes you feel deeply.

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It makes you like, give and receive differently. I mean, wow, love is so powerful. I don't know, it's a it's a driver for me. I think I'm an Enneagram to the heart. Okay. So very, like, very much a giver, a very heart and relationship focused. So maybe that's why I think of love as, like, it's like a driver and a motivator.

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Luna

I think that is officially part of the, like, adaptive response of human beings, like with consciousness and how we like to feel because we're social creatures for survival. But like, can you describe the difference that you talk about, like how do you feel in and out of love? Or the yeah, whatever.

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It's just like when I've dated, men in the past and been in love. But dating a nonbinary assigned female at birth person, the the way the love feels is deeper and wider, and I, and I feel this sense of safety that I've never felt before. And I think that makes me be able to feel more in love because I feel safe.

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Luna

Yeah. No.

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Why why am I making a face. Because I'm like I don't know if it's. Does that come from the physicality of like this person is smaller than me versus the men have all been bigger physically or is you know, is it like, is that why I feel safer or is it.

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Luna

I don't know that we have to figure out why. It's just about noticing it. And noticing the patterns and noticing what comes up. What about the difference between like being in love or out of love and maybe like self-love versus other person love because you someone who models self-love. I've learned so much about self-love because of you, from you, with you.

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Luna

Thank you, thank you.

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Step one Self-love. Always. I mean, okay, so the difference of being in or out of love, it's like that thing where you you love someone but you're not in love. And how that can, like, change and shift throughout a relationship. I feel like that that fluctuates for me. Like there can be moments where I'm in love and then and then even in the same day, there can be moments where I just love that person, but I'm not actively feeling it.

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Like right in my body. Maybe. Maybe in love is more like in the body, and love is more in the mind. Just loving. What was the second part of that question.

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Luna

Just like I. Self-love.

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Oh self-love.

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Luna

Yeah. And there's a million some questions because I. Yeah.

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Yeah totally totally. Wow. I feel like the, the biggest thing coming to me about self-love for listeners is honesty with yourself. Because until you're honest with yourself, until you're taking the time to really check in and see what's going on and how you're how you're living and how you're treating yourself, the way you speak to your self inside, etc. until you get brutally honest about the status there, you probably can't really reach full self-love.

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Like you have to get in there and be brutally honest of how you're treating yourself. And most of us aren't fully loving ourselves and I've just been on this radical self-love journey for, like, I don't know, maybe five years or something. I even did like a self-love course to to give my exercises. I've figured out to people to try to help them love themselves more.

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Luna

To be clear, she created a self-love course.

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Yeah, called Learn to Fly As and learn to fucking Love Yourself, because I was really mad at people for not loving themselves. I was like, fine, I'll just teach you how to do it.

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Luna

Yeah, yeah.

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Because when people aren't loving themselves, it makes them not great to be around.

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Luna

Do you feel like that's okay? I've been noticing a lot of patterns in humans lately that have to do with self, and I feel like that is one of the blockers. But what else do you feel like needs to get? Kind of like, yeah, like like how does one specifically if I'm like, okay, today I will, I'm going to be honest with myself, more honest than ever before.

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Luna

Like, what is that.

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One, that step one. And then I think the second step is to the to counteract the judgment is acceptance. So like in my.

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Luna

Work, it goes yeah.

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In my course I have people print out a contract that says I love and accept myself as is. This does not mean I don't want to make changes, it just means I'm buying myself at the current condition. Like I'm getting on my own team now without judgment. I'm accepting the current state. Then I can be on my own team to make the changes and improvements I want to make.

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So that's really important. And, as far as the judgment, it's like, that's why I say brutal honesty. I think I'm, I think I've grown to be willing to, to, have that brutal honesty with myself and that accountability, like, like I'm willing to apologize. I'm willing to say I'm wrong. I'm also willing to, like, get hurt or disappoint myself.

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All with love. Yeah. It's just like total acceptance.

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Luna

What about people who are afraid of brutal things? Like how does One Gentle of Five? Because I'm also just like I'm a person who I notice a lot of things, I notice a lot of stuff about myself, and I'm able to be like, oh, well, that's a judgment story. But that isn't always enough for me to kind of like get to the next step of self-love.

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Luna

So, like, what do you do concretely to feel self-love? Okay.

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Love that. Some of the tactical stuff I do is literally putting on lotion after any time I shower, just like any time you actually my girlfriend, my then friend, is the one who taught me this. But yeah, every time you shower and you get out, you should be moisturizing your body because we all get ashy, like on some skin toes.

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You can see it more than others, but like, everyone fucking sheds and get ashy so I noticed that now that I do it after every shower, it's become a ritual of self touch and like self feedback and just, that's a way of holding yourself, touching yourself as a way of holding yourself and providing tactical self-love. Also treating yourself indulging like those are ways to love yourself.

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Getting the massage, doing the bath. Like, having the lover please you just like, physically. I mean, there's so many things. Dance. Dance is a form of self-love. Like humans are built to dance and we don't do it, and then we start to hate our bodies, etc..

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Luna

Yeah, yeah. Or just move it. Not moving when I don't move or when I've been like in front of the computer, like designing a thing or editing what I feel like calcified, like I'm turning into a stone.

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And like you were saying about how to make it more gentle.

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Luna

Yeah, like less brutal, more gentle, more like, you know, because I'm like, I don't want to be brutal. Like, I want to be nice. And I think that stops a lot of people, too, right? Or it's almost like I can't beat the harshness of self-judgment with be like, like by muscling through and be like, I just got to be brutally loving with myself, you know?

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Yeah, maybe it's more like, maybe you can for people like that, you can imagine, yourself as a little version of yourself, I don't know, that always helps it be more gentle for me of like, okay, you're just my eight year old guy, or like my 15 year old self. Which.

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Luna

Means you're also imagining yourself as a grown up self.

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Too. Yes, both. It's an internal conversation. Yeah. So I'm super into the parts ourselves. Yes, it's called Internal Family Systems or IFRS and therapy, where you break down like you find all these parts within yourself and then you find your core, which is who you really are, and you accept all of these parts and you learn to like, work with them and heal them.

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But yeah, maybe picturing yourself and talking to yourself at a younger age, will help it be more gentle. And I'm just picturing, like, this hug energy of, like, when you're finding the negative, say you have a thought. The brutal honesty is like, oh, I, I realize I'm harsh or I realize, I'm really strict with myself, and I'm trying to control my actions too much or something.

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Then maybe you can picture, like, a hugging energy with that and just say like, yeah, I'm I'm being harsh with myself. Oh, like, okay, that kind of hurts. I want to try to do different. It doesn't. It can be gentle like that.

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Luna

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like okay. Oh, me and I have so many good questions I want to ask you more things. We'll just. Okay, as you were saying that I was sitting here thinking about the fact that we, we I have experienced. Well, I'll tell you my experience and you tell me your response. Feeling. I feel like I access a lot of love and, like, broader turn on energy when I'm with you through creation, creativity and play, including dress up and we right now are wearing head things.

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Matching outfit. Yeah. Turban head thing.

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Luna

I love matching, I love playing Gigi is one of my favorite models. Some inspiration, muse, goddess creatures on this planet that I get to play with. And so I'm curious how your art work place self factors into love for you.

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Oh my gosh, it's really similar to what you said. Like I think, finding things that you can do in the world where time disappears while you're doing them is like you found something, you're love, you love. That's an expression. And for me, that is also creativity. That's like I'm sitting at the piano writing a song or, you know, writing my dirty stories, that I love so much.

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And, yeah. So, like, losing myself in creation is is such a source of self-love for me because, like, what happens? I would actually like to illustrate the opposite of that, which is when I, when I don't do enough of that and I and I over give to everyone else's needs around me who, you know, the squeaky wheel gets the grease sometimes, like a lot of your friends are crying and you're just there to help them.

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I just I noticed the domino effect of not doing enough of my my purpose and fulfillment of creativity. So yeah, giving you're making the time for yourself to do the things you love is definitely a form of self-love.

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Luna

Yeah, yeah. Thinking a little bit outside the romantic box, but also maybe including romantic stuff because I'm still trying to figure out what is romantic. I would love to hear, just like a potpourri smattering of who and what you love.

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Oh, I love people who can talk deeply, who don't need to stay at the surface, or the small talk. I love when I love, love, okay, I'm a double Scorpio. So it's all about like, authenticity and truth. So I.

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Luna

Just.

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Love when people tell me how they're feeling while they're feeling it. Not is my favorite way to be around people and interact with them when they can be congruent with, even if it's a negative emotion. Right, I really pretty yeah, I mean, I'm, I just love when they tell me what they're feeling while they're feeling it. That's something really I go crazy for.

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Yeah.

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Luna

Are you able to be like it's cute actually I have, I have I have moments where it can I share like I've been super activated and I have witnessed you be like, okay, thank you. I hear that, you know, this is like one of my favorite things. And that's, that's one reason I love you so much is I feel like I can be my full self around you.

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Luna

My full without council unmasking without. Yeah, I can you I prefer you don't.

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Yeah.

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Luna

Always remember the first time you were like hey. And I was like, what? And you were like, are you okay?

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I was like, you sound different. Yeah.

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Luna

I was like, oh, I'm just focused on my phone, you know?

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Like you were unmasked.

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Luna

Yeah, yeah, it was really time, I love that. Yeah.

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I also love I'm a super introvert, so I just love like, small groups setting small spaces. I love a little like a tiny house party. Maybe 20 people who are all cool and artsy. Maybe it's like outdoors. I love being in my house by myself. It's where I spend 70, maybe more percent of my time. I love being in my own world.

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Like, yeah, I love, I love getting to bed early. I love weed, but I'm also exploring my relationship with it and like, cutting back. But I do still love it. And I fucking love good food. That's nourishing. I love colorful rainbow filled plates. Yeah, all the vegetables. Yeah.

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Luna

We eat a lot of goddess food. Also, you love warm bodies of water like I do.

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Yes, I love hot tub tubs and baths.

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Luna

What about, like, different varieties of people? Obviously you have your new they friend and you're in that relationship, but you're also like, multi amorous person.

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Yeah. And actually something I love about my they or them friend is that is something that speaks to a larger thing is I love people with fluidity because I'm such a water sign and I'm always changing. Like I love people who are willing to change. I love people who are flexible. My girlfriend lets me call them my girlfriend, my boyfriend, my them friend.

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They use all the pronouns like I love flexibility, I love transformation. Did that? Did I go off the question or no?

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Luna

Was not.

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The question.

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Luna

Well, it's all about people related things, but also specific like types of people. All of it.

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Yeah, yeah. So I get along best with people who, like I said, are like direct and honest types. And I get, I get truly, I do get frustrated when I see people making decisions that aren't that show me they aren't loving themselves. I really do get kind of like disappointed and frustrated and angry. I just want everyone to love themselves more because I know when they do that, it makes it better for everyone around them too.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Luna

Do you feel comfy sharing like favorite or struggling or whatever comes up for you? Parts of familial love and that could be family of origin and or chosen family. Yeah.

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Okay. Oh well, something I just love about Chosen Family is how I had a break up three years ago today. Yes.

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Luna

Congrats. Your break, a liberation.

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Take it. Thank you so much.

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Luna

Congratulations on your long time ago break up. So much growth since then.

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So much growth since then. It's a rebirth for me today while we're recording. And it's your frickin birthday while we're recording Happy Birthday! Also, the.

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Luna

Timing of that breakup was part of what brought us even closer together after knowing each other.

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And we are such chosen family sisters for life. And, so yeah, in that three years, what I learned about Chosen Family that I love is like that they can fulfill parts of my needs that I just think could only come from romantic relationships. So I really love leaning into my platonic chosen family relationships for, like, fun.

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Even even for romance. Like, we kind of romance each other with doing, like, flowers and gifts and like, cool dates. Like, it doesn't have to be a sexual romantic partner for that. Yeah. And then love within my family is something I would just. I'm so grateful for is I grew up poor, like, like, food stamps type poor.

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Not like starvation poor, but, definitely lower class. And I used to be so upset about that. But what I realized now is I grew up, like fucking filthy rich in love because I had parents that didn't, dismiss me. And just so many people's parents don't support their dreams, like, don't believe in them. Maybe they do support them financially.

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But, what I realized now is like the love is the most valuable part because my money situation I could change as I grew up, you know, I could do the.

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Luna

Like, and I transform, you know, transform stuff. Money, baby. Transformation warrior am I. And from the battle I emerge triumphant. Is the Scorpio phase. Yeah. You really embody.

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That. Thank you. Yeah. But I'm just feeling so grateful that, like, the love was always there, that was never lacking. And I'm like, wow, that's the most valuable thing to. To be so lucky that my bio fam does have love in it. Yeah, it's just.

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Luna

A lot of love. Yeah. I also have learned an immense amount about receiving from you, so I would love to hear when and how you feel most loved in a receptive way.

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Ooh, okay. That kind of feels like it brings me to the love languages. Because one of the ways I, I'm seeing my love language is transform is like, like touch is getting way higher for me. Yeah, yeah. I wonder if that comes from, like, rubbing off from, you know, pine like, because touch was not one of my big ones, like, I would say years ago.

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Really? Yeah. That's that's like really risen where I don't know if it was like post sexual assault recovery or what, but like feeling like a baby, like feeling like I'm in someone's arms and.

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Luna

Like to feel like a baby.

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Yeah, yeah, that's that's one way I'm really receiving love is like the physically being held. And then my other one stays strong, which is words of affirmation. And like, just hearing I have a kink. Yeah. So like, fuck yeah. Yeah. I love hearing anyone's proud of me or thinks I'm part or accomplished or just like, just any kind of verbal compliment is like a big receiving love for me.

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Luna

Well, I am very proud of you. You are so accomplished. I'm grateful to have such an accomplished human in my personal sphere. And like why your work inspires me so much. Like everything that you do and the way that you move through the world also like really inspires me. Not that I'm like trying to make you love me or anything, right?

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Luna

Yeah. I mean, we're I.

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Think we've already got together.

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Luna

Can I say, well, we've talked about this, I think on part before you and I share a money kink. Yeah. Not like we share the same kink, but, like, we both have money kinks. And we have learned more about that because of each other. Like, you were one of the first people three years ago that I was like, well, I have this thing that turns me on.

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Luna

Is that related to love for you? Is gifts part of I'm noodling on this freshly right now. I'm like, I don't think money is part of love for me. But also it it's sometimes an introduction or it's a way of feeling security or in the relationship building. Like how do you how are you thinking about that as.

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You're noodling it? Because I have.

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Luna

Really real fresh noodle.

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Fresh because I'm.

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Luna

Like right now letting strangers into my life is happening through work and money, right? Like it's because also I have so many people who are like, I can just show up and fuck you, right? Because I think you're pretty. And I'm like, no, I don't think so. Like, can you add concrete value? You know, and because I'm an artist, like, it really for me, turns me on on a level that does feel sort of related to love, but it's not like I love the money or the person because of the money.

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Luna

But this support of my work as an artist and the recognition of the value of my artwork and my physical being that's behind it, and then saying like, hey, I recognize also that you have this like weird experience because the internet, we don't know how to handle it. So I'm just curious, like what your kind of noodle on this might be, especially.

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If you're in love, how you set it about how like there is something there with the love and the money, but you're not sure. It's like so direct. I did this spiritual hypnosis, maybe like, I guess in 2021, where I got to see the lack part that lived inside me in, like, visualization and talk to it and, like, clear it and the way that opened up my abundance and receiving, I just never felt the same sickness in my stomach surrounding money since then.

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So I feel like that was like a big opening that allowed, me to just be a wider vessel for for abundance flow, which I feel that money is one of the main energies we work with in that in this world and society. Yeah. So I also, during that time learned that the energy of money is feminine, meaning more the yin.

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So receiving mysterious, a little intangible little like, maybe harder to understand. But when you do understand it, it's like deeper and more profound meaning. Yeah. And I have this phrase that kind of like I say, in the background, which is like abundance flows to me and through me or money flows to me and through me. And I, just like I do, feel that it can be a tool for love.

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Because like you said, it's not exactly the cash dollars. It's what you what you get to then do with it what it supports and what it nurtures because it is nourishment, like money is how you.

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Luna

Eat, especially in this.

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World. Yeah, I hate the Irishman. Yeah, yeah. So, so receiving it and then also, like I said, because I'm a two Enneagram, I'm such a giver. I love giving in the form of money too, now.

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Luna

That I oh my God, me.

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Too. Yeah. Like, yeah, we both do. We both been doing that even before we like, had it. Yeah. Like already started on the giving even before we really had.

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Luna

Which is why we have to watch the over giving. Yeah, because I do I want to be so generous and so it's not. Oh I want someone who funds my whole life. Although I do, I do. I would love a patron that wants to just like help me make all my big dreams that would help the world come true.

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Luna

But yeah, it's more like I want someone who's super generous with me so I never have to worry about over generosity, you know, over generous. I was gonna say over generosity at them, I got it.

00:23:26:17 - 00:23:53:14

It's a verb now. It's like, just like noodling. Also, like I have. I'm. I'm. I guess I am somewhat polyamorous. I always think of myself as open more than poly, but I am experiencing multiple relationships with love. And then right now. And one of them is a sugar arrangement that obviously involves money. Yeah. And because I feel so safe because of that, it allows me to love that person more deeply.

00:23:53:16 - 00:23:53:23

Yeah.

00:23:54:02 - 00:23:55:06

Luna

And then the deep bond.

00:23:55:06 - 00:24:02:09

Yeah. And then I have my, my then friend relationship that doesn't involve money but also still feels very loving.

00:24:02:09 - 00:24:03:18

Luna

Yeah. Yeah. So all.

00:24:03:18 - 00:24:05:09

Forms. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

00:24:05:15 - 00:24:12:08

Luna

It's a flow I think it's just going to be flow and balance. Okay. Before we move on.

00:24:12:08 - 00:24:32:11

But also I just, one more thing about love and money. I used to think money was bad and rich people were evil, and I had to I had to change that to for this flow to happen. I had to, like, learn to love money and learn to love rich people and learn to just believe that everyone's doing their best.

00:24:32:14 - 00:24:33:08

Luna

Yeah.

00:24:33:10 - 00:24:52:21

And and give that like, grace over everything. So I could get past the anger so I could be open to the flow. Because I think a lot of people who grow up, like with less than or whatever, or people who are just experiencing lack like they a lot of people share that where they, they kind of hate money or hate rich people.

00:24:52:21 - 00:24:58:08

Right. And I think, like, you have to get on the same wavelength as it with love for it to flow. Yeah.

00:24:58:08 - 00:25:20:18

Luna

Yeah. Well, also I grew up middle ish and then upper middle class, so like I always had all my needs met. I was always taken care of. Still, like farmer type family but like professionals. And I also grew up hearing how terrible blond haired, blue eyed girls were just in the in the backlash of like, weird, diverse. Now, you know, in the 90s where it was like, yeah, everything's diverse.

00:25:20:22 - 00:25:34:09

Luna

Not everyone's a blond haired, blue eyed, cheerleader looking type. And I was like, oh, so I felt undeserving. And that's something that, you know, meeting you and being in your personal sphere has shifted a lot for me.

00:25:34:14 - 00:25:48:17

I have such a good exercise for people who relate to that, that I did, which was write down 100 reasons why it's good for the world if you have money. And I actually only got up to like in the 50s or 60s before things started changing.

00:25:48:19 - 00:25:56:05

Luna

But I don't I don't think I've been told of that. Yeah, okay. I will do this homework goddess for the assignment. Yeah.

00:25:56:06 - 00:26:09:18

Because it's like it's like, not only are you and everyone deserving, the reason you are is because we're all frickin connected. And like, the more you have and to do good with, the more good affects someone else. And then they can have it like, it's just it's so abundant.

00:26:09:18 - 00:26:24:04

Luna

And it's it's abundant flow. And then I can be as generous because I don't have to worry about my own lack situation. Yeah. Okay. To wrap up our love before we move on to work, conversation. What is your favorite way to spread ripples of love in the world?

00:26:24:04 - 00:26:53:08

Oh, I think it goes right back to what we've been talking about. Inspiring people to love themselves more is like probably my biggest ripple, I think. Yeah, just inspiring any little bit of like them having more pleasure in their life, or them feeling more deserving or than feeling excited to try and change like any. It's the inspiration, and I feel so lucky that even on my like, relatively small presence online or whatever so far, that I get to like hear from people where that's happening.

00:26:53:08 - 00:27:03:04

And then I think like, wow, if if I change that and then they change someone like that ripple effect gets huge. Yeah. Yeah. So oh yeah, that's, that's the best one.

00:27:03:08 - 00:27:07:10

Luna

Oh for sure. Amplifying oh my god. Well thank you for these thoughts on love.

00:27:07:12 - 00:27:08:08

Love it.

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