FemmeDomme Pleasure Battle: Wrenly May’s Update
- Luna Robbie
- Sep 18, 2023
- 54 min read
38 bi-curious white female, married, voyeur, exhibitionist.
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Luna
We are Here with the wrenly may from episode 121. nasty porn iPad and a windgasm awakening.
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Luna
wrenly may.
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Luna
What has been happening in your life since May 2021.
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Wrenly May
So much! Oh my goodness. Well, 2022 is really when we talked about opening our relationship and like exploring with other people. And I have taken action. So you know, the pandemic, you know, calmed down enough to allow me the opportunity to get to explore with other people. And we started in 22 with swinging. We tried to dip our toes in the swinging pool.
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Wrenly May
We met a couple and we tried it out. My partner, my husband is not as adventurous as I am.
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Luna
We'll say okay.
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Wrenly May
So we began with parallel play, so we're both playing in the same room with our respective partners. But then the ladies got to play. It was not as enjoyable for me as I expected because she personally identifies as hetero flexible as opposed to like bi or pansexual. And so she was not particularly interested in exploring my body as I was interested in exploring her body.
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Wrenly May
So it was an interesting start.
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Luna
We put how did it make you feel? Tell us, just like a little bit of details. It was incredible.
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Luna
It was incredibly hot. We have watching.
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Wrenly May
Someone.
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Luna
Have sex and like we.
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Wrenly May
Were in the same bed, like, so having sex next to another partner was incredible. And making eye contact with him while he came in his wife was incredibly empowering.
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Luna
It was.
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Wrenly May
It felt really naughty and a wonderful way. It was fun. It's very hard, we discovered, to find a four way attraction. So where each person is also attracted to the other person. And so after, you know, we had a couple encounters with this couple, then my husband was, you know, said, you know what, this is not my thing, but you go do your thing.
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Wrenly May
And it's a long story as to where his comfort level lives. But to sum it up, he is comfortable with me exploring with women. That's where his personal boundary is. And we have a discussion where, you know, I want to be able to respect his choices, and I have chosen him as a partner and I want I choose him above my other needs and desires.
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Wrenly May
And we had long discussions about that, like, you know, if my desires outweigh, you know, my desire to stay with him, then, you know, we'll reassess things. But right now, my needs are being met by my explorations with women solo and then still having my intimate relationship with him. So after the swinging episode in 22, I started getting on the apps.
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Wrenly May
And I'm going to tell you the apps because I always am curious to know what people use. So I got on her, okay, and I got on field. Her seems to be more popular and my area of Tennessee. And so that's where I've met most people. And I have had the opportunity to have sex with five different partners now since last summer.
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Wrenly May
And I finally met somebody who I consider like my match not match in like a yeah, emotional way, but like in a physical way, like what I'm desiring in the bedroom. She is providing that to me and giving that to me and allowing me to explore things that I haven't been able to explore with other partners or other partners, haven't been interested in.
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Luna
A true play friend.
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Wrenly May
Absolutely. I have really been wanting to get into more Bdsm and some rougher things, and she's providing that, and I've always been more dominant in the bedroom, and I have really taken on the role of like dominant. And it feels I enjoy wearing a strap. Oh yes, a strap with if you ever use it, used a double ended dildo that has a bulb.
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Luna
No part. But I want to know. I haven't used a double into dildo at all because I have never like other than with hands. I've never penetration fucked, vagina owning partner like I've never been. Or actually, I got fucked by one. But I haven't been the giver. I've been the receiver once in a in a threesome. But, like, I want, I want to explore this world so bad.
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Luna
So please tell me about the bulb thing and tell me about this.
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Luna
Definitely. Like, tell.
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Luna
Me. Tell me everything.
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Wrenly May
So I used it once with another, not my new regular play partner, but with another woman that I had sex with. I used it once with her and I recommend using a harness while wearing it. So like technically you would not need one, but I do not know anyone who could have a pelvic floor powerful enough to hold that in.
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Luna
While.
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Wrenly May
Thrusting into another person. So wearing your harness, your strap, and then you feed it through and so the bulb and it's kind of just like a big bulb, but it's more popular.
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Luna
Wait, I think I know what you mean. Wait, like it's like here. And then there's like a nose.
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Luna
Basically.
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Luna
I think I did use one of those that will be part goes inside you. Okay. But I had a hard time using it. Okay. So that one I actually used on a penis owning partner and was trying to fuck him in the ass with it, but like a it was the first time I had like this was earlier on in my experience level of sex.
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Luna
Like now I'm like, oh, where is that thing? Let me go try it again. But I didn't know how to steer. And now now what? You're saying I'm putting the pieces together. I'm like, yeah, it I wish I had a strap.
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Wrenly May
Yeah, yeah, you really need the harness portion of the strap.
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Luna
To hold it.
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Wrenly May
Firmly, but it's really fantastic. It's it's a really fantastic toy. And the one I have, the penis part is bendable and doesn't. It doesn't wiggle freely, but like, you can bend it and, like, keep it in position, which is lovely. And the bulb part is bendable too. And so just inserted that and then use that through the strap.
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Wrenly May
And it feels very powerful to wear a penis. And no wonder men feel power all the time when you're walking around with this thing that can, like, penetrate people. Like it's an incredible feeling.
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Luna
It really look.
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Luna
At yourself in the mirror while wearing it. Have you looked at because I'm very visual and I always like to ask.
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Luna
People.
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Luna
If you wear a strap on, like, have you looked at yourself with a cock on? Do you have any pictures of you? Oh, I.
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Wrenly May
Haven't totally walked around the house with it like.
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Luna
That. Just just to wear it. Great. That's amazing. Oh, absolutely.
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Wrenly May
The first time I used it, I was not able to achieve orgasm. But I have learned the best way for me to wear it is when I am, like, penetrating her. Not doggy style, but where she's lying on her stomach.
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Luna
Yeah. Flat doggy.
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Luna
Flat doggy. Sure, I call it flat doggy.
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Wrenly May
Because then I can get friction on my clit, like by pressing up against her.
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Luna
Oh so oh.
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Wrenly May
Yeah. So it's pretty fabulous.
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Luna
Amazing.
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Wrenly May
And then you can feel the boobies still and it's all still delicious.
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Luna
So also.
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Luna
Like, I just had a threesome yesterday and it was so fun. Oh, ladies are so soft.
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Luna
Their skin is so soft.
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Luna
Their lips are so soft. And I know I see this all the time. But every time I touch one I'm like, oh, oh wow. Like, it just feels extra special. I would love to hear more about what it felt like to be exploring and uncovering dominant parts of you, and like exploring it in this way.
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Wrenly May
It feels very freeing to be able to express myself in this way. And so the person I'm with now also identifies as more dominant, which is exactly what I was looking for in a partner, because after playing around with four other women, I really figured out that what I want is like, for lack of a better word, like a battle for control.
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Wrenly May
Like both of us are like like it's it's rough and we're both trying to, like, please the other one, like, to the fullest extent. And so I will be, like, enjoying her pussy and, like, down in there with my mouth. And then she'll push me over and flip me over and she'll, she'll take a turn and like, it's, it's we're both just like wanting to dominate the other one so intensely that it's, it's very passionate and it's.
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Luna
It's a pleasure. It is.
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Luna
It's a pleasure battle of pussies.
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Luna
And it is so soft.
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Wrenly May
It is true. I feel the same way. Like every time I'm with a woman, it's just like, oh, there's so.
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Luna
There's so.
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Wrenly May
Soft in ways.
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Luna
That are so nice.
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Luna
Oh, yeah.
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Wrenly May
But I in a way I've never experienced man. Like they just don't have the same kind of softness. I love the curves of a woman just like every inch. And I also really enjoy the length of the sessions that I get to have, because.
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Luna
The.
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Wrenly May
Women I have been with tend to enjoy sex for longer, period, like for a longer session than the men I.
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Luna
Love that.
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Luna
I've met a handful of men who like longer sessions. Personally, I'm like, just touch me longer, just touch me longer. That's amazing. Wow. Wait, so are you having, like, hours long pleasure battles? Like, what's or is it like talking, resting? Like, is it like waves?
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Wrenly May
Like I would say. So the current situation that we're in, she is a bisexual married woman. And I am as well. And so, yeah, both of our partners are consenting. And, you know, they know that we take this time to enjoy each other and it is scheduled. And I know lots of people have problems with scheduled sex, but I enjoy it.
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Luna
I love something to look forward to. Don't get me wrong, I like a sexy surprise if I only get sexy surprises, then I start to like, try to clear my whole life for sex and then I don't do anything. And then I panic. But if I know that, say, on a Friday, the podcast has come out and all I get to do is like, celebrate!
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Luna
It's so hot. I look forward to a date.
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Wrenly May
Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah. And to text, you know, sext each other before like leading up to it and like talk about what we're wanting to do. And it just it's the build it's foreplay. And yeah, it's so good. So we get to see each other. I don't know, once every three weeks or so. And from the time that we meet up till the time we go, it's 3.5 hours.
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Wrenly May
But we usually don't beat around the bush.
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Luna
We we pretty much just get.
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Wrenly May
Right to it. We can't keep our hands off each other. So like the minute she walks in the door, like we're making out and things are already starting, so it's pretty fabulous. Yeah.
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Luna
When did this start? Because we're going to look at your sex allergy in a little bit. And I'm just curious. I want to make sure that we remember to think about this.
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Wrenly May
With her in.
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Luna
Particular.
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Wrenly May
I think it was in April or May.
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Luna
Okay.
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Wrenly May
But we, we met up a number of times before we ever did anything physical, just to make sure that, you know, it's somebody that we could trust. And especially in the area of the country that I live in, it is not for many people's careers. It is not something that they would want to be public knowledge. So you have to really vet the people.
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Wrenly May
Got it. You know, you're going to be meeting with. So to know that everything's going to be safe.
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Luna
So oh.
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Luna
That's a lot of stuff to think about. But it sounds like you, you got through the like, oh, the bureaucratic logistics of finding a lover. And that.
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Luna
Damn.
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Luna
Now you're just part. That's. So we told Dublin to do that. Are you other toys? Like, what else have you explored? Like, is it mostly like the dynamic. Like the power dynamic. Like what? What sort of conversations are you have?
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Wrenly May
I like to talk a lot about, like what I enjoy physically and what the other person enjoys. So part of the power is like, I want to be the best pleaser. Like, I want her to leave thinking this is the best sex session that I've had. And you know, however long or maybe ever, you know, let's.
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Luna
Say you could shoot for the stars.
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Wrenly May
And so I want to know, you know, like, what are you feeling today and what are you wanting? And I personally do my best work when I have verbal feedback from somebody. So I like, I don't want to be spending ten minutes doing something that just feels mediocre, like if it's not giving you the chills, if it's not taking you there, if your arousal is not continuing to grow like I will shift.
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Wrenly May
But so far we've played with like I have a Wharton burg where we use that. She has some flogger, some whips have a spatula.
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Luna
I like to use like a which kind of stuff.
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Luna
But there's different kinds of kitsch, like a flipping one or like a frosting rubber scooper one, a.
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Wrenly May
Frosting rubber scooper one.
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Luna
I guess we just call those rubber spatulas, but.
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Luna
A rubber spatula. Yeah.
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Wrenly May
I love how it feels like. Yeah. And this one is slightly concave. Like a spoon. Like the.
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Luna
Yeah, yeah. So it's like.
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Luna
Clapping on you. Oh, I haven't tried to both. Wait, what does it feel like? Have you tried it on your own self?
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Wrenly May
Well, I let her spank me.
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Luna
Oh, okay. Oh, damn.
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Wrenly May
I also really enjoy pain. So, like, I want to give pain and I want to receive pain. So it's that continuation of that battle, that tension that I don't know, I want to be bruised and I want marks, but right now she's a little timid. We're working our way up. We'll get there eventually.
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Luna
I feel, you know, I get it. I have a partner I know who like, I'm like, yes, I love it when you pulled my hair like that, you could do a little harder. You know? He's just getting comfortable. Like grabbing my hair and like, when I'm on his cock, too. And I'm like, put a little bit harder.
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Wrenly May
Move my ultimate that I've not been able to get her to bite hard enough. I want, like, high marks, like on my breast, like I just want it to be, like encircling my nipple. Like.
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Luna
Yeah. Oh, wow.
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Wrenly May
What, like teeth marks there?
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Luna
How may I ask if it's comfy for you to answer? How do you think your husband would feel about that if you came home or beaten up by your lady.
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Luna
Lover, you would probably be like, wow, you really went to town, didn't you? Yeah, okay.
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Wrenly May
Sometimes being with her, like the idea of it turns him on and other times it's like, yeah, you just go do you? So.
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Luna
Okay, okay, I don't know.
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Luna
How is that for you? Is it scary ever or is it like, just like you guys are finding your groove?
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Wrenly May
No. Yeah. We're finding our groove. Like, is it scary that he's uncertain?
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Luna
Is that.
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Luna
I don't know, I just I'm really used to being, I guess like 5 to 1000 times more excited than anyone I'm around. But it's, like, sad sometimes. And I wish the other people were, like, excited with me, you know? So one of the partners I have right now is so excited, and that's why it's so fun. And that partner is very supportive of all of my horror ish activities, shall we say, you know, and they're turned on by it and that like, I love that.
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Luna
And I know that it's different when people have like lives built. But I also don't personally know. So I'm just like, what's your experience like?
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Luna
Sure.
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Wrenly May
So I have great sex with my husband, but it's very different sex. And so I feel incredibly fortunate to have found a partner that is understanding of me wanting to explore, because many people's spouses would not be understanding and would not be okay with this. I feel incredibly lucky. I guess there's no other way to say it. Even though he may not be excited for my explorations, I'm excited and the person I'm seeing is excited.
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Wrenly May
And so that's what's really important. Like, he never has negative feelings about it. That's it's about what I'm doing.
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Luna
That's good okay. So he's not going to get that. That was my original question. It's like if he sees bite marks on your boobies will he be jealous? So it sounds like are you feeling like satisfied with this one lady lover? You're like, oh, I would like to have more pussies more often. Or it sounds like the process of finding it was a lot of work.
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Luna
Maybe.
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Wrenly May
Oh goodness, yes it was. I felt like I was looking for something very specific, and even though I'd only basically slept with five people, I met up with many, many more. And, you know, just, you know, it wasn't a good fit chemistry, you know, you know, the chemistry wasn't there or, you know, the attraction wasn't there vibe like, it just we weren't vibing and I had a very hard time finding people in general, because I tend to be more attracted to people who are more mask representing and typically the the type of people who present in the way that I find most attractive tend to be lesbians, and at least the people who I've met
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Wrenly May
who identify that way. No one has seemed to be looking for a casual relationship. They want a home relationship.
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Luna
And yeah, are you are like the very typical I.
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Luna
Learned this joke so now I know. But I didn't understand it for a while. But I heard people talking about lesbians and it took me a while to figure out that was like a joke about commitment.
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Luna
Yeah. How quickly it happens for that community.
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Wrenly May
Stereotypically, yeah. They were they wanted someone as a partner in the traditional sense not to be in a relationship with. Okay. And that is not something I have the bandwidth for at this time, that.
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Luna
You have your own traditional relationship.
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Luna
Already. Yeah.
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Wrenly May
I'm not interested in a polyamorous relationship. Like I don't personally have the bandwidth for polyamory. I don't function in that way. The emotional bandwidth that I have, like I have so many people in my life I care for already as friends, but also calendar is.
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Luna
Also part of it too, I suppose.
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Luna
I think that's the number one reason I wouldn't be like regular polyamorous. I'll never be not in an open relationship if I'm ever in a relationship again, I'll be surprised. I'm open to surprise every day. I'm pretty like like right now I'm pretty resistant. I'm like, catch me if you can. Where's a good invitation? I probably will be bored, but I have a bit.
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Luna
I'm kind of the opposite, actually. I'm like, I have a big love heart. I can love everyone. It's a matter of like, I have no desire to be in a group of Google calendars. I have a hard time doing one calendar and Kimberly has to help me with that. A lot.
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Wrenly May
Sure, I think a lot of it is a calendar, but I think the other part is I don't know if it's something that is, I don't want to say self-inflicted, but like, I don't know if it's my personal choice or if it's like a choice that also I've made with my husband. Love and emotional connection is a fear.
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Wrenly May
For if I were to experience that with another person because I think there's a fear of loss of our connection or.
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Luna
Specialness or all of it.
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Wrenly May
Yeah, or making it feel secondary to I get very excited about things very easily and I just dive in. I'm not like a dip your toe in the water type of person. Like when we were first exploring, swinging, like I got on like three websites and I was constantly like messaging people, like I was ready to get going.
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Wrenly May
And yeah, he was trying to pump the brakes. So I feel emotions very easily and very quickly. And so this particular partner that I have now, like she has her own life, she has she has a kid like she has a family and I have my own stuff going on and we don't really talk about, like when we got to know each other before we started hooking up physically.
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Wrenly May
You know, I learned about her and got to know about her as a person. But we don't talk much about our lives outside of our sexual acts.
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Luna
Really. Not even like pillow talk or something.
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Wrenly May
Not a lot. No, no.
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Luna
When we're just like, we will occasionally, it kind of is. Yes.
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Luna
I love that chemistry and connection is important. So then you're like, well, we got that. That's okay. We're the human part. Is there? No, we're going to do the human body part.
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Luna
You know, like it's.
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Luna
Okay. But how do you measure that type of chemistry then if it's not emotions related? Am I going to deep into the weeds here? This is the type of stuff I wonder about all the time.
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Wrenly May
Like our chemistry together physically. Like if it's not emotionally based, well.
00:20:59:22 - 00:21:10:14
Luna
I guess I'm using the term chemistry broadly when I'm reflecting on just what you were saying a minute ago about, you know, dating the different people are kind of, you know, it sounds like connection is part of it, but just not it.
00:21:10:14 - 00:21:11:03
Luna
Is, I.
00:21:11:03 - 00:21:23:14
Luna
Don't know, ongoing day to day. It's like the connection is now all the physical connection because you had the kind of like early intro, but you're not updating each other on like how you're evolving as humans. You're unless sexually.
00:21:23:16 - 00:21:26:17
Wrenly May
I don't know. I know very loosely like how things are.
00:21:26:17 - 00:21:28:00
Luna
Going up.
00:21:28:01 - 00:22:02:21
Wrenly May
In her life, but I mean, we may be send we message via two platforms, one regular text, which is just for like vanilla, like, oh, I remember like this life change. It's a big life change. Like hope that's going well. Okay. Now blah or holiday weekend. I hope you enjoyed your holiday weekend. You know, we may say like, oh, we're good, we're taking a trip somewhere, but we don't go into details about how the trip was or like how our professional lives are going or what fun our projects I'm doing.
00:22:02:21 - 00:22:04:00
Luna
Yeah, it's none of that.
00:22:04:00 - 00:22:15:02
Wrenly May
But then we also communicate on WhatsApp because has end to end encryption, and that's where all the sexy talk happens and that we communicate every other day or so. We both have busy lives.
00:22:15:05 - 00:22:35:19
Luna
And so I think that's like a good hot frequency, especially if it's not my main partner type situation. I mean, I don't I also could get flooded too. So I think that's all. So there is there is some connection. I also just never know in terms of like where my barometer is, like I've definitely had, you know, kind of hookup buddy friends who are like, yeah, yeah, yeah, no emotions.
00:22:35:19 - 00:22:54:18
Luna
But then they tell me all their emotions and people end up telling me their emotions, and then I'm like, maybe I don't understand that word, or maybe I don't want to, you know, and I'm, I'm also in this phase where lately it's just been a slew of like, just reflections about how different I am. And I'm trying to I'm trying to be a little bit the same.
00:22:54:18 - 00:22:55:00
Luna
And I.
00:22:55:00 - 00:22:56:04
Luna
Can't think.
00:22:56:05 - 00:23:04:12
Luna
It's like, how do I, I don't know, like if I don't know how I'm different, then I don't know how to subvert an expectation of like, I'm just like, what is it.
00:23:04:12 - 00:23:09:11
Luna
Like when I'm not there though? Like, what's happening? What's happening?
00:23:09:11 - 00:23:16:03
Luna
Like, that's why I started interviewing people because I'm like, well, what's it like in your world that would you like regular? If everyone's telling me different.
00:23:16:03 - 00:23:19:08
Wrenly May
So I don't know if anyone's regular.
00:23:19:10 - 00:23:33:21
Luna
Right. But here's my question. Do people walk around telling you you're different all the time? Because I'm like, what? Because I literally sit here and I'm like, maybe everyone tells each other they're different. And that's how they say special. Liking this to each other.
00:23:33:23 - 00:23:56:12
Wrenly May
I hear that I'm different in a lot of ways, not always, but in a lot of ways. I'm told that I'm very different. I don't know if it's the same as yours, but my brain works differently than a lot of people, and I don't have the type of filter where most people have a filter. Like I just say, most things that are on my mind all the time.
00:23:56:13 - 00:24:07:04
Luna
I try not to because that would be too much. I would not stop talking, but I think I can relate. Oh, I'm so excited! I haven't looked at your chart yet and I'm like, where's the air? Where is the air? There's air. Where's the water? I hear it, okay.
00:24:07:08 - 00:24:10:06
Luna
How much air? I know where the water is.
00:24:10:06 - 00:24:11:12
Wrenly May
I don't know where the air is.
00:24:11:13 - 00:24:12:12
Luna
We're going to find out.
00:24:12:14 - 00:24:23:21
Wrenly May
I also want to try all the things like novelty is super important to me. And trying new things all the time. And I think a lot of people enjoy routine. And I love routine.
00:24:23:21 - 00:24:25:06
Luna
Same.
00:24:25:08 - 00:24:32:15
Luna
I'm a consistent novelty seeker in them. I am the most consistent novelty seeker you will.
00:24:32:15 - 00:24:33:05
Luna
Find.
00:24:33:07 - 00:24:33:23
Luna
Because I.
00:24:33:23 - 00:24:34:04
Luna
Get.
00:24:34:04 - 00:24:55:13
Luna
Up, I have incredible routines and every few weeks, you know, I, I whiplash my life around and I go different places and I do work that, you know, I'm doing the same kind of work I'm doing, like the sexy photos and the sexy interviews and all of this stuff. And I'm traveling and I'm lately I've only been traveling to the same places, like, it's like, I'm here, I'm in Nevada, I'm here right now on the family farm, I'm in LA, I'm in Nevada.
00:24:55:13 - 00:25:09:16
Luna
And you know, this next year I'm going to go more places. But it's like having that consistent container to then like have a wild party. And I think you're doing perfect. Or what's your version like. It sounds like maybe that's that's me projecting onto you.
00:25:09:18 - 00:25:21:06
Wrenly May
I feel like my life is pretty great right now. I mean, it can always be amped up, but sure, I would love to do a sex party, but they're just not happening in my area. That's something I would love to explore.
00:25:21:07 - 00:25:32:11
Luna
I so I feel like I've been exploring. Yeah, there's just such a specific type of vibe that I want, and I know there's afternoon stuff out there. There are a couple in L.A. that I haven't hit up that I want to go to, and it's just been schedules, but.
00:25:32:13 - 00:25:34:05
Wrenly May
I'm just ready for you to create.
00:25:34:07 - 00:25:35:18
Luna
I know, I know, I know, I don't.
00:25:35:20 - 00:25:37:07
Luna
That one actually.
00:25:37:09 - 00:25:45:18
Luna
Literally. This week one of my lovers was asking me about that, and I was like, you know, because we have some fantasies that include group stuff and.
00:25:45:20 - 00:25:46:14
Luna
You know.
00:25:46:16 - 00:25:47:22
Luna
They were like.
00:25:48:00 - 00:25:48:07
Luna
Don't.
00:25:48:07 - 00:25:54:18
Luna
You know, people? And I was like, kind of.
00:25:54:20 - 00:25:56:11
Luna
And I was like, I guess this was the time where I could.
00:25:56:11 - 00:26:17:21
Luna
Do the party. I think in 2024, I it's not going to be before the end of this year just because I already know what my calendar is like through the end of this year. And in 2024, I intend to have at least a couple of weekend retreats and at least a couple of sex parties, you know? And in my perfect world, there is like a weeklong retreat where I'm just recording a fuckton of sex stories.
00:26:17:21 - 00:26:39:00
Luna
Do you know what I mean? And, like and then taking pictures of people in the meantime and facilitating, you know, fantasy explorations. I just have to just make sure that I'm being really clear about what the invitations are, because I think the other thing that's become really, really clear, especially lately since I started sharing more of my personal desires through bucket list stuff and since I started sharing, you know, some more about what I'm doing in other places.
00:26:39:00 - 00:26:57:10
Luna
The emails and messages have increased like both in volume and creepiness level. And if you know the amount of people out there who think that I'm just like, like, I don't, I don't know in what world anyway, I don't need to waste time and energy on that. But it's just like, who? Who does emails like what's strange or anyway, like, beck and call situation.
00:26:57:10 - 00:27:03:17
Luna
So I want to make sure that I'm fostering a good environment when I do that. But it's so in our.
00:27:03:17 - 00:27:06:01
Luna
Future I.
00:27:06:01 - 00:27:07:22
Wrenly May
Will book a flight.
00:27:08:00 - 00:27:24:23
Luna
I mean, here's the thing in my perfect world, it is a traveling circus. The play ship has a couple of play ships, and then I just go around and meet in places. So hopefully people don't have to fly too far. But I'm hoping that by January I'll be able to, like, announce what's coming in the year so that people can plan it and then just go from there.
00:27:25:01 - 00:27:25:09
Luna
We will.
00:27:25:09 - 00:27:27:04
Luna
See. Yes.
00:27:27:06 - 00:27:45:11
Luna
Okay. You like got to a new horizon. And I think the thing that's really important to talk about with desire that maybe doesn't there's not always space on the part to talk about is oftentimes when we reach our desires or when a desire is fulfilled, like it doesn't always line up with what we think it's going to. It doesn't usually it doesn't ever line up with what we think.
00:27:45:11 - 00:28:06:09
Luna
It's going to feel like 90% of our nucleus accumbens has the dopamine motivation drive, and then it's like 10%, but that's actually devoted to the liking or something like that, I don't know. Go read Atomic Habits by James Clear. You know, so getting, getting to that place now you sound like you're having a fucking fantastic time. Does it shift your horizon?
00:28:06:09 - 00:28:12:07
Luna
Do you just in a moment where you like, are enjoying it? Or are there other things that are like call into you?
00:28:12:09 - 00:28:13:09
Luna
Well, for a.
00:28:13:11 - 00:28:38:03
Wrenly May
Long time I was afraid that what I was seeking, I was not going to find because I kept having those encounters and I was like, well, this is not feeding the need I was hoping it would fill. Then I found this particular partner and that was excellent. So right now I'm in a place where I'm just very, very happy just continuing on the path that I am.
00:28:38:03 - 00:29:04:13
Wrenly May
But as I am that novelty seeker, I know that this is not going to be, you know, I'm not going to be complacent here for. Yeah, I don't know how long, but like it's not going to be never ending. I really want to get into more Bdsm acts, but I don't think this partner is somebody who is like, I really want to go down that hard.
00:29:04:15 - 00:29:06:14
Luna
Hard. I have a lot.
00:29:06:14 - 00:29:12:10
Luna
Of pain, some weight. Like what? Why or what do you mean, like like what kind of hardcore and giving and receiving or only giving in this?
00:29:12:10 - 00:29:32:00
Wrenly May
Yeah. Right now giving and receiving. Like I really enjoy both sides of it. I feel like I'm very truly switch. I really probably enjoy giving more, but I think that's a control issue. Like I like to because I like to be in control, but I really enjoy feeling the pain.
00:29:32:02 - 00:29:36:02
Luna
Why do people think submissive? No, but you are in control as a submissive. I'm like.
00:29:36:02 - 00:29:37:11
Luna
How could I be more?
00:29:37:13 - 00:29:40:00
Wrenly May
Maybe I don't have a good Dom.
00:29:40:01 - 00:29:40:19
Luna
Interesting.
00:29:40:19 - 00:29:43:02
Wrenly May
Maybe I need a good Dom. Who knows what they're doing.
00:29:43:07 - 00:30:02:16
Luna
I don't know if this is an appropriate time to make this segue, but I'm going to do it because I relate to what you're feeling. I had my first experience just last week of now. I've been developing my top skills for the last couple of years, and kind of a concerted way, but I had an experience recently where I basically got to be kind of.
00:30:02:18 - 00:30:03:22
Luna
A protege.
00:30:04:00 - 00:30:25:11
Luna
To a very trained dominatrix. You know, who has the skills, who has experience working. It is Mistress Luna, former guest on the pod, who is one of my favorite humans. And it was so incredible because not only did I get to borrow her submissive, who is a very like experienced submissive and is able to, I'm like, oh my god, is this me?
00:30:25:11 - 00:30:41:16
Luna
In 20 years? Because they were able to like, talk while receiving a fuckton of pain, like pain, slut level pain. And so it was really cool because I was trying out a slapper. Like the thing that has the two little things and then like another tiny little paddle with a stiff set.
00:30:41:16 - 00:30:42:11
Luna
Called a paddle.
00:30:42:12 - 00:31:11:01
Luna
Skinny bottle, I need to learn the names of everything and then spanking. And so I've been receiving a lot of spanks lately, but this was the first time where I was like, oh shit, because she showed me how you can throw a leg up over the moon on this spanking horse. And so, you know, with the with the thing on the side and then I ended up mounting, like facing the other direction, mounting the submissive and I had permission for full weight, you know, and I'm checking in and I felt the switch, if that makes sense.
00:31:11:01 - 00:31:32:02
Luna
So like in my work life, I'm always in charge and I do it effortlessly when I am directing a scene, when I'm directing a client, when I am bossing around Kimberly, when I'm talking to people like, I'm really, really, really good at holding space for people and being like, blah, blah, blah, blah, but at the airport, at jury duty, like, I'll tell people what to do anywhere little kids come up and act like I'm just like an authority figure for the world.
00:31:32:02 - 00:32:01:01
Luna
I don't know why, but in sex, I feel like every single person feels like, oh, brand new, wide, deep, unknown. If anyone out there is like, why does she ask people the same questions over and over? That's why. Because I do not have the assumptions, and I think of it as like a lack of confidence sometimes, but I actually have an incredible amount of confidence in my skill, knowledge and ability to keep someone to.
00:32:01:02 - 00:32:16:06
Luna
So this was a moment where I was on top of this person slapping and spanking and just like and I felt an actual rush of joy, not just because I was doing it for that person, which normally when I'm in top space, it's a.
00:32:16:06 - 00:32:17:02
Luna
Deep, deep.
00:32:17:02 - 00:32:33:15
Luna
Deep surface, submissive like yummy thing for me. Whereas this started to feel more like, oh my God, this is fun to me too. And it was so fun. It was fun. So, so I don't know what that's unfolding, but I think I'm feeling my own version of that. And so it's so cool to hear you like exploring yours.
00:32:33:15 - 00:32:51:20
Luna
And you know, and I continue to gain skills and I am gaining my two handed vlogging skills and it was so funny because I could feel the insecurity at the beginning. You know, I can literally feel it in my body like I'm very I'm hyper aware of everything and I can literally feel how the movement is insecure, if that makes sense.
00:32:51:20 - 00:33:00:01
Luna
Did you have that for yourself when you were like getting into stuff, or were you just like, I'm going to go for it? Like, what did it feel like to you? It sounded very confident when you were telling us about it.
00:33:00:05 - 00:33:03:07
Luna
It feels very confident. Okay, cool.
00:33:03:12 - 00:33:13:02
Luna
Well, that's helpful for me. Like barometer wise too. Did you already have that confidence or is it like permission because you're in this space to explore was that you're just like, no, I know.
00:33:13:04 - 00:33:18:14
Wrenly May
She actually asked me. Same question. She's like, you're just. So it's going to sound like I'm tooting my own horn.
00:33:18:15 - 00:33:19:03
Luna
Please do.
00:33:19:04 - 00:33:46:15
Wrenly May
But she's like, you're so good at this. She's like, how are you this good? And you haven't been with that many people. And I was like, I think what it is, is I know and everybody is different. Yeah, physical body, but I know what I would enjoy. And so I try to and I listen to what other people want to, but like it's especially nice to do it on a woman because a woman's body is very different from a man's body.
00:33:46:15 - 00:34:06:15
Wrenly May
So like when I'm touched in certain ways, you know, or I will say to her like, you know, like, oh, I really enjoy being touched here. You know, this is feel good to you and to get those responses and I don't know, I the power thing like I just it feels natural.
00:34:06:17 - 00:34:07:00
Luna
I want to.
00:34:07:00 - 00:34:24:08
Luna
Be very clear. I'm not questioning your confidence. I'm just like, what does it feel like from the other side when it's there? Because I've witnessed it in many other pussy owners too. And sometimes it makes me question my own pansexual ness because I'm like, oh, if I'm not that confident, then maybe I don't, you know, like if I'm not like, rah, I want to like, have your pussy right now.
00:34:24:08 - 00:34:39:19
Luna
It's for me. It's like I spent the last decade, like squashing down my horniness and then the last five years being like, oh, I don't. How am I supposed to hold space here? This is a made up zone. I don't.
00:34:39:19 - 00:34:41:22
Luna
Know.
00:34:42:00 - 00:34:56:18
Luna
I know, I know, I know in some cases. So I really appreciate that insight because I'm a person that is like, well, I know what feels good on me. And now I have anecdotal data about what feels good on 100 other people and like actually 100 other more over that, you know?
00:34:56:18 - 00:34:59:06
Luna
And so then I'm like overthinking it.
00:34:59:08 - 00:35:22:19
Luna
However, I will say, I've been studying this month because I have been doing my masturbation meditation exploration. So I actually am ten days into edging when we're recording this. I have not had an orgasm in ten days, probably for the first time since I discovered masturbation. Like I don't, I've never, ever, ever consciously taken a break. It occurred to me on a whim late Thursday night and I was like, let's do it.
00:35:22:23 - 00:35:24:03
Luna
Let's going to happen.
00:35:24:05 - 00:35:41:22
Luna
And it's been a wild, interesting challenge. And last year's sponsor, OMG, yes, I still have their login info. So I've been going through all of their stuff and there's another one coming up. Uneducated who I really like, where I think I'm going to get into their stuff and just sort of see what they're teaching. But the OMG is just looking at all the different ways that a pussy can be touched.
00:35:41:22 - 00:35:58:04
Luna
There's some stuff that just didn't occur to me. It's really interesting. So now I'm like, the threesome I had yesterday was what? I didn't get to play with her pussy that much. So I really am looking forward to having, pussy owning partner where I can just like, go to town on her experiment.
00:35:58:06 - 00:35:59:13
Luna
That sounds so exciting.
00:35:59:15 - 00:36:18:21
Wrenly May
So one really interesting thing is that I found that I like to be a top with my husband, and when I'm with men. But I don't like to be submissive to men. But I don't mind being submissive to women, which is interesting. Oh, so.
00:36:19:02 - 00:36:20:22
Luna
Is there anything more to say about it?
00:36:21:00 - 00:36:31:12
Wrenly May
I, I have no idea. Other than just like. Like it's just my internal way of fighting against the patriarchy.
00:36:31:12 - 00:36:33:16
Luna
I may I.
00:36:33:16 - 00:36:46:17
Luna
Offer a counterpoint as a happy submissive who really wants to submit to everyone in the right context, I want to bring a context point because I think for me, in my personal life, I'm trying to think I'm like, all.
00:36:46:17 - 00:36:50:10
Luna
Right, I really haven't submitted to that many men, a.
00:36:50:10 - 00:37:15:17
Luna
Couple, but I think it's giving woman kind gift to make them do the hardest work. And I think it sets a level of expectation of behavior that were that normalized. I think a lot more pussy owners would enjoy. Maybe some like laying down some of the holding of the stress that we can, because I actually think personally, in my personal experience, being a top is a fuck ton of work.
00:37:15:19 - 00:37:21:07
Luna
I feel like there is some training that maybe needs to be happening.
00:37:21:12 - 00:37:23:12
Luna
Across the land to make it.
00:37:23:12 - 00:37:43:15
Luna
More broadly appealing, but I think it's about giving penis owners the tools that I don't think we currently have as a society to create safe, thoughtful spaces where we might want to actually more broadly be like, yeah, okay. You know, and again, I'm saying this with all of the privilege of a person who no one has ever done anything to me that I didn't want.
00:37:43:15 - 00:37:52:14
Luna
And part of that is because I fucking yell at people when they get really close, like, really, you know, or, you know, I have that that way of being like, what are you doing now?
00:37:52:16 - 00:37:53:23
Luna
You know, like.
00:37:54:01 - 00:38:12:12
Luna
And I think, you know, that's also why my what used to be the best sex of my life totally fell apart because I was like, these are the what are you doing? What are you doing? And as soon as I started questioning, as soon as it starts poking someone, it's like, then they explode. That's. So if that's the case, I totally get that.
00:38:12:14 - 00:38:37:12
Luna
But I think there's deliciousness in, I think also what I have learned, both from some reading and from research and work stuff I've been doing lately, especially a lot of the, like, erotic content creation that I've been doing, especially when I'm in charge. Holding space is I really notice when not just dudes, not just ladies. Everyone loves to feel useful.
00:38:37:12 - 00:38:49:17
Luna
They love to have a job. They love to have a clear job. And I just wonder if we if we were a little bit clearer on some of the expectations around that, like the world might change, you know, I hear from a lot of lonely dudes that are like my own adult women.
00:38:49:17 - 00:38:50:16
Luna
Long blond locks.
00:38:50:20 - 00:39:14:22
Luna
And I'm just like, yeah, but what are you offering? Are you offering a safe space? Are you offering an invitation at all? Are you offering a good invitation? Is there any information about you? Are you just like, hey, welcome to Burning Man with me? No, I'm not going to just show up to go meet a complete stranger who didn't even send a picture or tell me anything about them, or send their LinkedIn, or offer me any sort of anything for my time and energy for a two weeks.
00:39:14:22 - 00:39:35:22
Luna
So glad I didn't go. Sounds like a fucking muddy disaster. You know. So, which is not to say, and I hope none of that comes off as like judgment around. I think you definitely should not submit to like. And I know that from a lot of vagina owners don't want to submit to dudes. And I also just think it's like we need to make them go out and hunt.
00:39:36:00 - 00:39:59:06
Luna
They feel happy and they come back and then they're used instead of whiny and bothering podcasters as if I'm some secret lair. I'll get off my rant. Do you want to look at your astrology? Let's do it. Okay, so here we are looking at your natal chart. So friendly man. Oh, you're a fifth house, Capricorn Sun. I'm also a third house.
00:39:59:06 - 00:40:17:09
Luna
Sun. So fifth house is the house of artistry and your son is your main. You know, that's the astrology sign. Everyone knows. So you probably knew you were a Capricorn. Capricorn is usually. They're pretty good at schedules. They're usually pretty solid. It's an Earth sign, you know, so there's like I said, I was going to do it, so I'm going to do it.
00:40:17:09 - 00:40:36:21
Luna
You know, Capricorn is the sea goat. So it's it's actually a feminine sign. So she is a seagull that crawls out of the ocean, goes to climb the mountain, gathers the wisdom at the top of the mountain, then goes back down into the valley and disseminates the information. And then, like finds the next mountain to climb. And so it is a sign of like achievement and career.
00:40:36:21 - 00:40:57:05
Luna
You also have Jupiter, the planet, just to jump ahead your planets usually the sun moon rising first. But like in your fifth house, seven degrees from your sun, you have Jupiter, the beneficent planet who's basically like a big Santa Claus, like a magnifying glass cheerleader, for better or worse. Also in Capricorn. So that could be a lot of rigidity.
00:40:57:05 - 00:41:18:05
Luna
But also it's in your house of artistry, creativity, play, children. The fifth house is associated with the qualities of Leo. So there's like the general city of spirit of your artist heart. So are you rigid? You also have Neptune in Capricorn, but that's in the fourth house, which is like, do you identify as like very concrete? Yes. Grounded.
00:41:18:05 - 00:41:19:01
Luna
Yes.
00:41:19:03 - 00:41:20:07
Luna
Are you like always on time?
00:41:20:07 - 00:41:29:01
Wrenly May
I am always on time. And I always I live by my schedule like I live by my calendar. And if I don't write it down, I have trouble sometimes.
00:41:29:03 - 00:41:52:09
Luna
Yeah, yeah, totally, totally I, I really feel that I my first house is full of Capricorn three planets in Capricorn together and it's like Uranus, Neptune and Saturn. So it's like the revolutionary, the dreamer and the daddy energy. So it's like for me, it's a jangly. Okay, so sun, a Capricorn sun, let's find your moon, a cancer moon and a Virgo rising.
00:41:52:14 - 00:42:18:13
Luna
Oh, that makes so much sense. Okay, so Capricorn is an Earth that's in your fifth house, your cancer moon. So moon is what comes naturally to us. That's also where we revert when we are crinkly, shall we say. It can be pretty moody. It can also be like unconscious and like mama related stuff. So yours is in the 10th house, which is typically the house of career or so.
00:42:18:13 - 00:42:41:08
Luna
It also might be like, yeah, work is on lock in. The sign of cancer, which is also like cancer is the opposite of Capricorn. So that's pretty cool. Interesting. So you're in opposition. You have that built in. So your son is here, your moon is there. So you have kind of the like, you know, like the archetypal father and mother, like cancer and Capricorn both have strong qualities of both.
00:42:41:08 - 00:43:03:13
Luna
And it sort of depends on how you want to. Like I could make a case for either being either, but typically Capricorn is like Papa energy and Cancerian energy is mama energy. But both are extremely like career oriented achievement, financial sense. But cancer does it from this place of soft underbelly like cancer at the height of its power is like the world is.
00:43:03:13 - 00:43:26:03
Luna
My family and I am here to build the lighted house in which we may dwell, you know. And also, if you poke at cancer, cancer moons in particular can be a little bit crappy. They can be a little bit grumpy, although I would wonder how that shows up for you since you have earth, sun and rising sometimes. Sometimes one can be so grounded that you don't necessarily get lost in the like pinchy crabby gravitas.
00:43:26:03 - 00:43:27:13
Luna
But, what do you like when you're tired of?
00:43:27:17 - 00:43:31:13
Wrenly May
Oh no, I am incredibly moody and I switch on a dime.
00:43:31:15 - 00:43:35:07
Luna
Absolutely. Like, okay, it's switch and I'm okay there.
00:43:35:09 - 00:43:57:03
Wrenly May
But I will say you're talking about cancer and Capricorn being opposite. Truly, my friends call me a juicy contradiction. That's how they describe me, because I am. I am both thing. I am like opposite things of so much of my personality is I am very fully both things, but opposite. But I'm never in the middle.
00:43:57:05 - 00:44:18:18
Luna
I relate to that. Oh man. Okay, well we've got some juicy ups. Okay, so I want to go back to what I said earlier. There's no obvious air. There's no obvious air. We have a we have a loaded third house, which is the Gemini house, which is air. We also have oh you oh, you have Mars, the warrior in Pisces, which is the deepest feeler in the seventh house.
00:44:18:18 - 00:44:48:09
Luna
I have Mars in cancer in the seventh house. So that's just like a deeply sensitive warrior in the house of relationship. So the third house, is associated with, like, writing and communication. You have Pluto in Scorpio and Saturn in Scorpio in your third house. So that's like deep transformational, like communication. That is what. Yeah, that not even surface level.
00:44:48:09 - 00:44:50:19
Luna
Do you have surface level conversations?
00:44:50:21 - 00:45:01:00
Wrenly May
Yes. But that's my favorite thing to do with my husband is just we just sit and talk and philosophize and pontificate. And that's how I like to spend a lot of my free time.
00:45:01:01 - 00:45:21:11
Luna
That does not surprise me at all, because so Mercury, your planet of communication, is in the sign of Sagittarius, which is fire, you know, so so we all have obviously we all communicate. But in the third house of communication, you have Pluto, which is the like slow moving healer. So yeah, it's at four degrees. Where is it now?
00:45:21:12 - 00:45:45:18
Luna
Okay. So since you've been born it's only moved two houses. Oh, and it's now moving through your house of artistry. I'm jumping ahead of myself. Sorry that let me slow down and focus. So Pluto is the healer, but it's often like through transformation, via death or like, you know, like Pluto can have this, like, really intense energy because it's the slowest moving, farthest outlying.
00:45:45:18 - 00:46:05:18
Luna
Not everyone calls it a planet. But we still love you, Pluto, you know, and that's in your house of communication. So it means. And it's in the sign of Scorpio and Scorpio is sex, death, money going deep. Heidi Rose Robbins always taught me the phrase for Scorpio is warrior am I? And from the battle I emerge triumphant. So it's someone you know.
00:46:05:18 - 00:46:22:06
Luna
And so. So I also have Pluto in Scorpio. For me, it's in my 11th house, which is the Aquarian House. So that for me, this next podcast, that's where I like, want to go deep, to heal the world and like, but like with technology and like, talk about it. So for you, it makes sense that you would want to talk about it.
00:46:22:06 - 00:46:43:22
Luna
And they are not conjunct, but you also have Saturn, which is Daddy energy. Saturn is the authoritarian and Saturn is regimes. Saturn is associated with Capricorn. And so so it has that not rigid quality, but Saturn is the teacher. Where it is in your chart is where you can grow the most. And it's like literally.
00:46:44:00 - 00:46:45:07
Luna
Deep.
00:46:45:09 - 00:47:15:09
Luna
Communication because it's in the sign of Scorpio and it's in the third house of communication. Like Scorpio doesn't always want to talk either, which is interesting that you have the warrior of because it's also a water sign. So it's like can be like below the surface, you know, sneaking up there. It doesn't always want to talk, but I imagine that you probably, you know, you said you have these conversations with your husband and it sounds like maybe you would need someone that you trust to have a deep conversation with would be my guest based on those placements.
00:47:15:11 - 00:47:50:17
Luna
Then again, Mercury in Sagittarius, Sagittarius is the new Sagittarius follows Scorpio. So you have Mercury and Uranus. Uranus is the revolutionary, the rebel, the one that likes to shake things up. Both of those are in Sagittarius, in your fourth house of home. So also so that's novelty. So that is novelty. And that might be a person who also, you know, even though you have that intensity in your third house of communication, your planet Mercury of communication in Sagittarius, there at 23 degrees is probably going to be super curious.
00:47:50:18 - 00:48:00:14
Luna
How does that show up for you at home, like novelty seeking? Do you guys explore or travel together? Like what shake up happens in your life around home and family?
00:48:00:16 - 00:48:04:10
Wrenly May
Around like physical home? I'm always doing new.
00:48:04:12 - 00:48:05:04
Luna
It can be both.
00:48:05:06 - 00:48:05:18
Luna
I always.
00:48:05:18 - 00:48:18:20
Wrenly May
Yeah, I'm doing a new project, like around the house. Like I'm always wanting to make something new and it's about a lot of creation. And I shift our pictures on the wall around a lot and our furniture.
00:48:18:20 - 00:48:26:10
Luna
And I was going to ask about rearranging. I'm a rearrange her. I cannot help it. I have to rearrange constantly whenever I feel like, yeah.
00:48:26:12 - 00:48:29:11
Wrenly May
I like to travel. We don't travel a lot.
00:48:29:15 - 00:48:32:04
Luna
It can also be learning travel of the mind.
00:48:32:06 - 00:48:38:19
Wrenly May
I mean, I like to learn new things, but I don't like to dig in. I don't have the patience to spend too much.
00:48:38:21 - 00:48:41:13
Luna
Too much time too. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah, become an X.
00:48:41:13 - 00:48:59:00
Luna
No, no. Sagittarius is not the patient one. It's just like, let me try it. Let me see, let me see, let me see. You know, like, Sagittarius and Gemini. I kind of have that quality of like. I mean, Gemini is more of a researcher. The Sagittarius can show up in higher education or like, devotional learnings, like priests and things like that.
00:48:59:00 - 00:49:01:02
Luna
But, like, that's not necessarily our path.
00:49:01:04 - 00:49:03:13
Luna
I call myself a hobby hopper.
00:49:03:15 - 00:49:30:05
Luna
There you go. Yeah, yeah. I mean, because because also Uranus is like the earthquake and Uranus in Sagittarius is like the revolutionary explorer in the realm of, like a home and family in the fourth house. So it doesn't have to be across the world. And I think I think that's the thing too. It's like, I'm so curious, but I can get curious about every little thing I have to be careful about where I focus my curiosity or where I give that kind of attention and energy.
00:49:30:07 - 00:49:45:06
Luna
So that's very interesting. What about Neptune? So your dreamer is also in Capricorn in the fourth house, which is home. So maybe that is what grounds it actually. You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, all of that's out there. But my dreams are actually really concrete and they're right here at home.
00:49:45:07 - 00:49:46:20
Luna
That's interesting.
00:49:46:22 - 00:49:53:17
Luna
How do you feel? Do you feel like your dreams are concrete? Do you do escapism?
00:49:53:18 - 00:50:19:13
Wrenly May
I don't know if I have any particular like, I've never known what I wanted to be when I grow up and like, I've never had like a ultimate goal of anything. Like right now, traveling is restrictive based on like our chosen career paths. But my goal is to not work so that I can do all the fun art.
00:50:19:15 - 00:50:29:21
Wrenly May
And I want to learn all the skills to, you know, produce all the different types of art that I want to learn. And I want to go to all the amazing places to eat all the great food. I mean, but I don't know that that's.
00:50:30:00 - 00:50:30:20
Luna
Oh, yeah, that's.
00:50:31:00 - 00:50:38:16
Wrenly May
That's much different from most people's dreams is to not have to work for a living to be able to do something you just enjoy. So.
00:50:38:18 - 00:50:43:23
Luna
I mean, some of us are so obsessed with our work that if you try to take it away from us. But,
00:50:44:00 - 00:50:44:23
Luna
That's someone you know.
00:50:44:23 - 00:51:06:14
Luna
But I could also argue that I could also argue that, like, all of my work is fun art projects and now it involves sex. So it's like, why would I do anything else? And and includes delicious food. On the note of delicious food, we do have your North Node, which is kind of like a mini rising sign at the top of your chart in Taurus.
00:51:06:14 - 00:51:28:11
Luna
Oh, there's the air. Oh, Gemini is at the top of your chart. So you're just like, here to have a conversation, but it's going to be a deep conversation depending on who it is. You know, so the I forget what it's called Midheaven. I think it's the Midheaven. It's not your rising sign, which is like your sole purpose, but it's more just like how you show up in the world and kind of like what, you know, like what you're here to bring forth in.
00:51:28:17 - 00:51:47:13
Luna
You know, it rules your 10th house cusps. So it also can oftentimes have to do with your public life or career. You also have Chiron just to jump ahead. We're going to get back to Venus and Mars, both in Pisces in the sixth and seventh house respectively. But Kiran, which is the wounded healer, it's an asteroid that we don't always talk about.
00:51:47:13 - 00:52:09:18
Luna
But I do because it's like your own personal wound. But you can help others grow. They're the most you know. So for me, for example, I have Chiron in cancer in the seventh house of relationship. So it's like my own personal wounding around, like creating family and connection and like that soft, squishy group in relationship especially. But what am I the best at?
00:52:09:18 - 00:52:31:19
Luna
What am I the best at helping other people with? Like really unpacking their own sex lives in so many ways. Like the numbers of times that I've, like, helped other people. And I'm like, what about me? But it's like literally written in my chart, you know? And I have, I have all the tools for that. So you do you have any pain points around communication or anything that is difficult around communication, especially in the realm of career.
00:52:31:21 - 00:52:45:09
Wrenly May
Connecting to my career, maybe, but like, not connect. I don't particularly feel connected to my career, kind of. I've never known what I want to do, and I don't particularly feel like connected to it is just like a means to make my living. Yeah.
00:52:45:14 - 00:52:47:13
Luna
Which, by the way, is not a bad thing.
00:52:47:15 - 00:52:50:18
Wrenly May
It's taken me a long time to accept it.
00:52:51:00 - 00:53:13:00
Luna
We live in a culture that is like obsessed with who are you? What do you do? And that's how we define ourselves. And that's been increasingly crinkly for for me the past couple of years as I'm like podcaster, photographer, other things that start with the letter piece, you know, because why why does that define you? But but I think it's actually, you know, probably in our human origins, I don't think we were defined by careers.
00:53:13:00 - 00:53:31:01
Luna
So I would say that's perhaps a gift. Interesting. Great. I love that you're like, well, not too many wounds. That's good. Okay. I think it's also useful to be able to be like, nope, this is what this job is for. And if that supports boundaries, I definitely know people who are like, no, this job is for this, and they still get all tangled up into it.
00:53:31:01 - 00:53:55:15
Luna
But, it doesn't sound like the issue here. So I do want to go focus on your Venus, which is what we value and what we love, which is the kind of like archetypal feminine goddess energy. And then Mars, which is the archetypal masculine warrior energy for you. Both of those are in Pisces, but Venus is in your sixth house, which is associated with Virgo everyday work, you know?
00:53:55:15 - 00:54:21:15
Luna
So it's the work that you do every single day. It's like what you value. So Venus in Pisces is we're looking at perhaps someone who values emotional, like oceans of love. Pisces is the ruler. Like, Pisces are the last sign of the zodiac. And so it's like can feel and whole like there's space for everyone. Pisces is also the most prone to depression.
00:54:21:15 - 00:54:42:03
Luna
I'm a Pisces moon, so I'm like, just put me in a hot tub and let me cry when whenever I when the full moon is out and I'll be fine. You know, it's it's very deeply sensitive because it understands everyone. So you I think based on this chart would value the ability to have deep feeling maybe in your everyday life, I don't know.
00:54:42:06 - 00:54:42:13
Wrenly May
Very.
00:54:42:13 - 00:55:08:02
Luna
Much valuing sensitive dudes. Yeah. Like Mark. Because then because it's beautiful to me that. Because also you're a Virgo rising too. And so that Virgo is priestess energy. Virgo is the discerning eye that looks around and says, what can be better here? What is there to harvest? What do we need to plant differently next year? You know, and the catch with Virgo, not so much as a Virgo rising because as a rising sign, you're here to cultivate that.
00:55:08:04 - 00:55:27:19
Luna
But whereas like with cancer, it's like you get all grumpy, Virgos can get hypercritical and oftentimes that can be focused inwards and or outwards, you know, and the two really aren't so different, but people express them differently. Right. So for you calling it an as your rising sign, it's, you know, devotion can show up in multiple ways, right?
00:55:27:19 - 00:55:52:09
Luna
It's about giving as well as receiving because what what are we to a high priestess hopefully devotional to a nice priestess. You know, and also being a priest as we are devotional to something else some the higher power. So it creates kind of that gift and it's beautiful. It's beautiful and grounded in, oftentimes associated with healing arts, but it's like grounded in the earth, you know, it's what are we nurturing?
00:55:52:09 - 00:56:15:21
Luna
What are we growing? And so so that's opposite your where you're Venus, you know, because you're rising. Sign there on the left at the 9:00 position is opposite the 3:00. Which Pisces rules your seventh house cusps. So relationships feeling is going to be important in your relationships because the seventh house is the house of relationships. And again, just like me, you have Mars in your seventh house, the warrior.
00:56:16:03 - 00:56:26:00
Luna
But you have. I have it in cancer. You have it in Pisces. So that's even more sensitive. So would you say that you are attracted to sensitive dudes?
00:56:26:02 - 00:56:26:17
Luna
It's a good.
00:56:26:17 - 00:56:27:16
Wrenly May
Question.
00:56:27:18 - 00:56:34:12
Luna
It doesn't have to show up that way. But like is how does emotion show up for you in relationships or like what you value emotionally?
00:56:34:12 - 00:56:59:18
Wrenly May
When I'm in an emotional relationship with someone, I want someone who can be fully transparent about everything. I want it to be a two way street where we are both sharing our full extent of ourselves. I don't like surface relationship with someone I'm intimate with. The sexual thing with my new lady friend. Partner is very different, but when I'm in an emotional relationship with someone, I want them to be fully invested.
00:56:59:18 - 00:57:00:06
Luna
Yeah.
00:57:00:08 - 00:57:19:17
Luna
Yeah, that makes sense. You know, sometimes it can show up like this. Mars can look like, what am I willing to fight for, you know? So it's like I'm willing to fight for. Well, it can show up a number of ways. I mean, Pisces also rules music. It rules photography. So, like, I'm willing to fight for the space for my deep, sensitive creativity, even if it's quiet.
00:57:19:17 - 00:57:37:03
Luna
You know, it's not necessarily a battle. Mars isn't always about battle. It's like, what would I stand up for? And for you, it's like, what would I stand up for is the same thing I value, because both of those are in Pisces. This is a really cool, balanced chart because that's another good example of Pisces is opposite Virgo.
00:57:37:03 - 00:57:57:07
Luna
So there you have again the opposition. You have the like Gemini at the top of your chart in opposition to the sagittarian energy that's in your fourth house in Uranus and Mercury. You have that the Scorpio, you don't really have a lot of Taurus balancing out your Scorpio, but you have North Node in Taurus, which means you're like, I got this.
00:57:57:07 - 00:58:13:17
Luna
I'm just here to eat the good food and travel around the world to eat the good food. That's what I do. Oh, I don't think I said that earlier out loud. North Node in Taurus ninth house is about travel and exploration. North Node in Taurus. Taurus is the sensual pleasures. So you're like, yeah, I'm I'm here for that.
00:58:13:20 - 00:58:32:19
Luna
All around the world. And I also could see, you know, with Uranus and Mercury in the fourth house in Sagittarius. I mean, that's you could go anywhere and you could go anywhere from home to, if that makes sense, like you can you don't have to leave home to go play. Sure. Because we got these brains and all this connection.
00:58:32:21 - 00:58:38:21
Luna
Okay. Let's look at your transits. Or do you have any thoughts that you want to say? I know I just blasted you with a ton of information very.
00:58:38:21 - 00:58:41:00
Wrenly May
Out of, I'm going to have to soak that in for a.
00:58:41:00 - 00:58:44:21
Luna
Moment, but, I'm loving all of it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:58:44:23 - 00:59:01:07
Luna
Okay. So right now in the homes, let's just see what's happened. This is where I'm like, I would look at my phone for help. And by the way, if anyone is listening to this, I'm not a real astrologer. I just worked for one for a while, and I find this very fun, and I. And I'm really fascinated by the patterns.
00:59:01:09 - 00:59:27:14
Luna
Okay, so we have. Ooh, this is the juiciest thing right now. Saturn is sitting right on top of your natal Venus. So if you look at the right hand side of your transit buy wheel chart, Saturn is at two degrees Pisces, so it is exactly conjunct. Oh, I think this is your play friend because Saturn is dominant energy to you know and it's in it's in that sixth house.
00:59:27:14 - 00:59:47:23
Luna
Now this is not to say that it'll shift into any different type of relationship when Saturn enters your seventh house. I'm not saying that you're already in a lowercase our relationship, it just exists. But I think it's really interesting that like, you know, so Saturn is typically top energy, although also people with strong like with Saturn and love Capricorn energy.
00:59:48:02 - 01:00:04:22
Luna
You know, they maybe they want to be on either side of getting tied up kind of situation doesn't always have to be tied, but I just mean the power dynamic. And so just seeing that it's conjunct on your Venus, which is the divine feminine, that to me is just kind of hot, especially since you said that you're exploring the beads.
01:00:04:22 - 01:00:07:18
Luna
Yeah, that's really cool.
01:00:07:19 - 01:00:09:04
Luna
So cool.
01:00:09:06 - 01:00:29:17
Luna
And then. Yeah. Neptune. Oh, here we go. Neptune in Pisces has been moving through your seventh house of relationships, so it moves pretty slow too. So I'd have to go back and like, look, I don't have the software to, like, see when it enter there, but, I'd have to get an ephemeris chart. But you, Neptune in your seventh house is the dream of the relationship.
01:00:29:17 - 01:00:51:07
Luna
Because you're in the house of relationship. It's the dream of, like, what types of emotions are for the relationships that you're creating. And so it sounds like based on the conversation. Anyways, your mercury or Mercury is just Mercury moves quickly right now. Mercury just hit your rising sign so you know it's around. It's in the first house and it's oh, exactly opposite your Mars.
01:00:51:07 - 01:01:12:17
Luna
So I mean, it sounds like you talk to your partner a lot about stuff. Fun. And then what is the conjunct. Yeah. Because Mercury down there is just a mercury sun conjunction. So I think it would have been happening in your first house. I'd have to go back and look. It seems like you're in a new era when do you feel like that started this version of it?
01:01:12:19 - 01:01:32:19
Wrenly May
Well, long term of this new era began, I think probably in 2020 with the pandemic. But that's because we just started talking a lot about, you know, like how we're changing our relationships and then really dug into that. But that was it was more related to like what was happening in the world around us. But I think.
01:01:32:21 - 01:01:33:13
Luna
Yeah.
01:01:33:15 - 01:01:40:10
Wrenly May
Last summer, like I, when I really started exploring on my own, but like when I met this play partner.
01:01:40:12 - 01:01:40:16
Luna
I.
01:01:40:16 - 01:01:45:03
Wrenly May
Think it was like May. That's when things really shifted.
01:01:45:05 - 01:01:46:17
Luna
Interesting.
01:01:46:19 - 01:02:07:09
Luna
Yeah, that's so cool. We have a beautiful trine happening between your natal sun and Jupiter, your natal sun in Capricorn, in that fourth house down below. And Jupiter is in your ninth house right now. And remember, Jupiter is the big. So it's just like a harmonious sort of like unfolding in a grounded, concrete way of sensuality and pleasure.
01:02:07:09 - 01:02:26:21
Luna
And we have Uranus in the sky right now. So transiting Uranus, hitting your natal Jupiter. So there could be a shakeup, you know, it's and it's coming up on your Midheaven too. Slowly like you have a few years before it hits the top. Top. Because Uranus is going to be in Taurus for a couple more years. As it moves, it switches signs every 7 or 8 years.
01:02:26:21 - 01:02:45:02
Luna
And are we for years? And I don't know, I should know this because Uranus has been working on my son and my Venus, and it's going to get me one more time before it's all the way out. But something's coming for your 10th house of career. Because when Uranus moves into it, when Uranus hits your Midheaven, there is always a shakeup.
01:02:45:04 - 01:03:08:21
Luna
So if so, I would also say, just knowing you a little bit and hearing what we talked about today, not being certain about career stuff can be the greatest gift because you're not clutching anything, and it means you can be the most open to possibilities that actually work for you or whatever that looks. And you know, all of this, in my opinion, our entire lives affect our sex lives, right?
01:03:08:21 - 01:03:28:00
Luna
So, like, I'm not that good at being like, oh yeah, let's see what your current Venus is, because Venus and Mars are really what we would be looking at. And I'm still learning to read all the aspects which are trines and squares and sextile and quintile, all the funny things I can't remember and pronounce. If Venus is in Leo in the 12th house.
01:03:28:04 - 01:03:43:12
Luna
Oh that's great. Okay, so Venus moves quickly, so it's not going to be here long. But like that to me is totally just it's you showing up here expressing what you value in this passionate new relationship. But it's a little bit hidden because we can't see your face and.
01:03:43:12 - 01:03:45:04
Luna
Nobody knows who you really are.
01:03:45:06 - 01:04:05:08
Luna
And that is like that is Venus in Leo energy. And I also feel like that's I mean, to me, Venus in Leo is like a dominatrix line to, you know, a secret dominatrix line in the 12th house. I that's just how I'm. I'm that's my creative interpretation of that. I mean, where is Mars right now? Mars and Libra in the second house.
01:04:05:12 - 01:04:21:15
Luna
So that's literally like fighting for right relationship in a grounded way. You don't have to fight that hard. It's just like what you're willing to fight for. So that's, that's, you know, and that's just where it is in, like in your world right now. It's not hitting any of your planets. It's not doing anything. It's just kind of floating through, doing its thing.
01:04:21:15 - 01:04:29:22
Luna
But it's it really sounds like you are in balanced relationships right now that are feeding you deliciously indeed.
01:04:30:00 - 01:04:31:22
Wrenly May
Feels delicious. Thank you.
01:04:32:00 - 01:04:36:05
Luna
My pleasure. Do you have any questions about that or any questions for me?
01:04:36:07 - 01:04:40:01
Wrenly May
I don't have any questions about the chart. This is a lot to.
01:04:40:03 - 01:04:42:02
Luna
Press, a lot to process, and I know.
01:04:42:02 - 01:04:42:11
Luna
It's a lot.
01:04:42:11 - 01:04:44:16
Luna
To put in such a good way. We can keep talking about it too.
01:04:44:20 - 01:04:50:17
Wrenly May
Once I get it, I gonna have to listen to it over and over again so I can, like, absorb it all.
01:04:50:18 - 01:04:59:22
Luna
And there are probably even more details. And if you have specific questions, just let me know, because there's like more stuff that I can like, look up. I just hit the the stuff that stood out to me without without any preparation.
01:05:00:01 - 01:05:07:08
Wrenly May
You said you are edging right now and you're not orgasming, but did you ever do your masturbation vacation?
01:05:07:10 - 01:05:36:19
Luna
No. Well, so this is kind of it, but I changed it because I am at this farmhouse for a week and I was like, but I, I really blow. I take a tiny idea and I make it really big. I have not yet done like a full 2 or 3 days of masturbation vacation exploration, because I realized I am not patient enough to by myself masturbate all day long, every day.
01:05:36:21 - 01:05:52:09
Luna
I am so horny and I like it. But if I'm gonna. If I'm going to be like fucking for two days, I really want to have a partner there. Like I really and for me edging for I said 6 to 9 minutes because those are my numbers and I and I thought that was a good I thought that would be hard to do.
01:05:52:09 - 01:06:07:09
Luna
But actually it's they're more like 11 to 15 minute shares. You know, also because I try to remember to remind people to breathe and have an intention at the beginning, but I really want to get a sex toy sponsor before I do, too. Like, I want to figure out how to just get way more sex toys and play with them all.
01:06:07:09 - 01:06:27:23
Luna
Like I have visions of just like lining stuff up in a row, you know? And so this is one of my patterns. I had three people last week call me over complicated or like in kind ways, but it's just various reflections of too muchness. And I'm like, well, you don't need to wait around for me to get 17 different types of vibrators and line them up from small to large.
01:06:27:23 - 01:06:49:19
Luna
And you don't need to watch me try them, you know, like that's that you don't have to be a part of this experiment going. So yeah. So no, I haven't actually done it, but I still I still do intend to, you know, and also, you know, I'm always trying to figure out what is actually the priority. But basically what happened to the first one?
01:06:49:19 - 01:07:09:05
Luna
I got a tummy ache and didn't want to masturbate the whole time, like I just felt sick the second time. I ended up bringing a friend and it turned into a place for an exploration vacation. And it was, and we we ended up, I ended up doing a different project, but that sounds great. I had a bunch of bruises that week, so that was part of it too.
01:07:09:05 - 01:07:27:02
Luna
Is like OnlyFans pulled some of my content for having bruises because it was too much bruises. So. So I was like, maybe I don't want to like make stuff that I can't share, I don't know, but we ended up face painting my bottom and she turned the bruises into beautiful clouds and, you know, so that was.
01:07:27:04 - 01:07:28:15
Luna
Part of this very, very.
01:07:28:15 - 01:07:48:06
Luna
Fun, you know. So that's that is not like a masturbation edging experience. But for me it's a very, very like deliciously sensual thing. Like, I love killing a tiny paintbrush on my ass cheeks for a while. I mean, I just love sensations. Yeah. So that's it's still on my horizon and I trust the divine time.
01:07:48:07 - 01:08:11:16
Wrenly May
Speaking of painting, one of our local nonprofits is for women with breast cancer, and they raise money by having artists paint on women's chests. And then they for, then there's a volunteer photographer and then they get imprinted and framed, and then they have an auction for them later on in the year. And I've always gone and like, supported them.
01:08:11:16 - 01:08:27:14
Wrenly May
But this year I decided to paint for them to And then at the very end, I had my friend paint me and she painted one of my designs, which was, it's like this, like very abstract vagina. She painted it on me and I.
01:08:27:16 - 01:08:29:14
Luna
Just felt so.
01:08:29:16 - 01:08:30:11
Wrenly May
I don't know.
01:08:30:13 - 01:08:32:11
Luna
Full circle. And it was really close.
01:08:32:13 - 01:08:36:10
Luna
And that's so many, like, layers of delicious stuff.
01:08:36:12 - 01:08:40:01
Luna
That's fun. Oh my god damn.
01:08:40:01 - 01:08:46:14
Luna
Lovely, man. Thank you for your updates. Thank you for joining me live for your sex strategy. I just appreciate you so much.
01:08:46:16 - 01:08:48:20
Luna
Oh thank you, I appreciate you. I.
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