Education & Fist Firsts: Jon’s Update

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Jon's episode from June 2020 | True Trysexual

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Luna

John from episode 75. Welcome back. And it was two years ago that you.

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Jon

And a lot of a lot has happened in places.

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Luna

So much that you inspired the slave ship mobile dungeon with your original story on the live stream about you and your wife doing it, and was it a trailer camper?

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Jon

Yeah, an RV two camper RV.

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Luna

Okay, good. Okay, so. So what's been happening with your sex life? The like.

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Jon

Oh. It's wonderful. You know, still just having all the horsepower of the ship, the real life one that. Just that I guess the original would be there with the original. Have the original ships and has cabinets full of toys. You know, those two things in that thing. But, yeah, it was. We put that to use earlier.

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Jon

This was in the spring. I took. I took a class, a Bdsm class, I was a demo with the in class. Originally in the episode, I referred to myself as a transsexual, which is pretty true. So try anything. But in that that sort of self-taught DIY thing. Sometimes you miss when you are around people who really have a depth of knowledge and they know what they're doing, you knowing.

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Jon

But the demonstration there was done, and some people, I mean, it was probably an hour's dance. The gist of what's been he demonstrated and he talked and explained what was happening, what he was doing. And it was magnificent. It's like a ballet. Honestly, the impact play he did, that real sensation play where he had the meat claws like used for shredding meat.

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Jon

I mean, he was like, just like scratching her body up and down with these claws. He had this vampire gloves, like leather gloves and these spikes in the tips. He had, like, meat mallets, but they were cold. He had them in a freezer, so they were like ice cold. All this sensation play and an impact thing. I mean, he had different paddles and flogger and feathers and, you know, like fur lined things.

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Jon

And he would talk about how you would alternate from impact. It would go to something it's softer and explaining it. And you could see the two of them communicating, which to me was like, why makes perfect? And he said, you know, basically the sub is in control. And how was it that part of it is never really a, you know, a menu, but you can read things about it.

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Jon

You see, it happens by people that really know what they're doing and do it well, especially in the public, just, you know, performance like that. I mean, it was unreal. You know, just clicking on a phrase like, oh, I get it. You know, this is not just one person imposing their will on another. This is me dance with two people.

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Luna

Yeah.

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Jon

Give me electricity at 12. Like, that's something I never would have even said. I mean, I would be like, oh, hell no. You know, from being a kid growing up in the country, you know that I've touched the electric fence before. I know what that feels like. And so I'm when I'm looking at it, I'm thinking, hell no.

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Jon

So he had the unit where you have the. He put it in his, like, down his side. Didn't use his fingers as the conductor to conduct the electricity. And he sort of first thing I was like right in the front row, he held hands with me and I held hands with the person beside me. And you could feel that electric current going all the way through it.

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Jon

Yeah. Which was crazy. And then he's he's touch your partner on the neck or lightly or whatever. Piano fingers. Right. And you see the little arcs of electricity. I mean you have the sub she laid on like it was like a massage table. But then he had all of us, like, get around the table like it is probably 20 people.

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Jon

And he's laying there and then he is holding her hand. And then all of us were like piano fingers on her body decoration. I was like, at her ankle. And you could just see all of these tiny little electrical charge. And I was just like, it was. It was amazing. And I was excited about it. Cool. And just at her, I was so kind of as impressive as having this is like it was probably an hour, hour and 15 minutes is just like so fucking intense.

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Jon

I was looking at her going with you.

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Luna

Did you get to experience any of the like, shocker, zap! Feeling yourself? Or was it just running through you? Kind of like the Vandergrift drum or like, did you experience any of the shock of the zap? Or were you just the conductor.

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Jon

Out for like when he for the first Division, I was just the conductor on that second. So he he's only holding her. So every time we touch her with your fingertips, you get that little zap.

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Luna

Oh, he was only holding. Okay, cool cool cool. Oh.

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Jon

The second part of it. Yeah, yeah, she's laying on that.

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Luna

Yeah. I wonder what that's called. Like a group zap.

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Jon

Yeah. So I don't know what you think about it. There's like ten people. I mean, I'll say at one time, maybe there's ten. So you have that 100 fingers that lightly zapping you all over your body. I love I love that it was unreal.

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Luna

Has that inspired anything in your own personal life for your desire to explore?

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Jon

Of course it has, and that's where I'm at. So the next part was when when they got done, they were like, would anybody like to, you know, ask questions or try things out or whatever? And, you know, I was like, sure. And yeah, I spoke with this. It was several like male female dance there. So I spoke to her and she was like, well, you know, what would you what do you.

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Jon

And I was like, I don't know. I was just like, this has been so overwhelming. I was just just like, so she sort of invited me to come over and oh my gosh, that was like my full on introduction to impact play. Oh, okay. I mean, I, you know, I've played around with things like that, you know, just a little bit nothing.

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Jon

This was like the real deal I was talking about afterwards. And that was telling my wife. I said, it's like yoga. Like that's what it became because it was like this sort of, you know, consciousness, like of endurance, right? Yeah. Like, I can hold this position. I can do this, I can take this. You know, it was very, very much a yoga sort of headspace.

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Jon

And I definitely got in at some space where there was a point where it didn't matter anymore. Like whatever is going to happen.

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Luna

For our listeners, for clarification sake, when you say whatever or just letting it happen, it's because you were open to it. Like a like what? What what were you actually saying?

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Jon

Like given over to the moment. Right. Okay. Because she would check in and ask me if I was okay. I was like, okay, she's done, you know, thumbs up, thumbs down and all that. It was so intense.

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Luna

Okay. Intense in terms of like, sensation, experience, like everything. Were there people watching and implement?

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Jon

Yeah, there's a whole room of people. There's like 40 people in the room. It was one of those things, sort of like when I went bungee jumping where it's like, like like we're going to count down from three. And I was like, no, no, no, I'm just going to go. Because if I think about it, I'm going to just not do it.

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Jon

So when they said, do you have any volunteers? Was like, you're amazing. You don't throw around the term life changing, but it really was because it was like within rods and there was vloggers and there was with and there was even like little small shovels, like he would dig for things at the beach.

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Luna

Oh, like actually like just like little plastic ones, like play with, like when I was a kid.

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Jon

No, no, no, like the wooden handle was wooden. And the end of it was like aluminum or some type of metal.

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Luna

Oh, like a trout.

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Jon

Yeah. Quack quack quack quack.

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Luna

Ooh. Oh, I haven't gotten hit with that.

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Jon

That's cool. That was the only thing. That was the only thing I tapped out on after. Okay.

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Luna

How did they work the tap out system. Like, was it safe words? Was it like, read a hand? I know she was checking in, and it sounds like it was. Yeah. It works.

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Jon

Raise your hand if you give an thumbs down. Okay. I was, like, bent over a chair and I mean, just all of it. I mean, the fact that there's a ton of people watching me. Yeah. What's happening in the in my brain, I could not have mattered any less. You know, it was the fact that this was happening.

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Jon

It was just so, so intense, like a day afterward. I'm still having that, like, whoa.

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Luna

Yes. Okay, so that was a few months ago. How has it, like, settled in on top of you? Like, is it affected the way that you move through the world as kind of your own submissiveness you want to explore or your own dominance? What's kind of landed for you since then?

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Jon

It definitely inspired this sort of this switch in me to go, okay, that was really cool to feel, but also like I learned a lot of things like what to do or when to miracles and damage I'm looking for. Okay, I need sand shovels. I like the me claws.

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Luna

Yeah.

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Jon

The little meat hammers that I can put in the freezer because that's.

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Luna

How are those, by the way, did they just, like, set them on a river? Like hitting with the hammer? Like what?

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Jon

It was like tapping. It was like, okay, tapping. And then you, like, run it down her. And he's like, what? You. And then he brought it up and he was he was talking about it was doing it. You said what you don't know since these have been in the freezer all day.

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Luna

How do I get that job being the demonstration volunteer.

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Jon

Oh my God, he put that right on her clit. On my faster. You could just see. Let's see. Awesome. So I did that and then it was like after that in the play ship, as you call it. We'll call it reproduction. Yeah. So here's my shift one.

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Luna

I think this is the original, I think place it prime.

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Jon

Place of OG whatever. But but anyway, shifting, I guess we were just sort of exploring and playing around, and we had been talking about what, what had happened in that, the little, all the little things out. And we were trying my best to remember the things. And then she just thought like, no, no, no, let me the impact play is like something that I think she's not really comfortable with yet.

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Jon

So but more of a sensation play and she does this. Hold on. And then she had, you know, latex gloves and she said, I'm going to fist you. Know it. Okay. I mean, just the fact that she said it was fucking hot and it became that sort of yoga of mind space that sort of peaceful, you know, let's concentrate that mindfulness sort of be in this moment, you know, like everything else, it was intense.

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Jon

I didn't even know that that was possible. I don't know, I've seen it on porn, but yeah.

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Luna

Well, there's one thing to see professional performers who do something from work do it. And there's another thing to have it, you know, from on you by your partner in a moment where you're not necessarily expecting it, but you have such a history of trust and practice that you're ready to go for it like that. Yeah. Pretty fucking cool.

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Jon

Yeah, it was pretty fucking cool. The sensation is just so much.

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Luna

Is it able to be pleasurable or was it more like just so intense because it's just whole know? I mean, I know that that whole you've had to figure before, but like, you.

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Jon

Knew it was both. It was intensely pleasurable and that was the same. It's like, I enjoy that. But wow, it was just unreal. That's awesome. Like we did it again. Like this past weekend. She struggled a little more the first time, but this time I think she was more like, okay, she knew what she was doing.

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Luna

How was it like, was it any different for you? Because I know that the more that I got to know my asshole in these various ways, the easier stuff would become. Well, I guess I would have some days where it's different, but like, do you feel like you were more relaxed or was part of the same excitement? Or like, what's it like for you a second time?

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Jon

It was the same excitement while it was happening. And then there's that moment where it's like, where it is, is all the way, you know, we now look down and here and, you know, you see, there's her response right there was like, it goes in, she's up all the way there. And then, you know, I came like 10s later, you know.

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Luna

Yeah. Yeah.

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Jon

And so it's afterwards and we were like sort of diagnosing it because she's checking in in my area. Okay. I'm like, yeah, I'm okay. I told her I was like, I'm glad we did that. I was like, but I really enjoy like getting stuck with a big dildo more like it's not as deep, like it's such a long stroke, you know?

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Jon

Okay. I mean, I would do that again. It was enjoyable.

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Luna

I didn't let's say it's cool to have on a menu. I have a detailed question of like, you looked back and you could see, like, what position were you in? Like, where do you feel like I'm.

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Jon

I'm on my back. On your back up.

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Luna

Okay, okay. But it must be hard to see her like inside you. Would you ever want to look in a mirror? Well, it's happening, I guess.

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Jon

I mean, I would. Yeah. Continuing on there, I mean, just, we're getting to that stage where we're on our is almost empty. I mean, we have a lot of opportunity to do things that you can just can't when you have a house full of people. And so now it's like, all right, so we can walk around the house naked, or we can have sex wherever we like or whenever we like, starting to embrace that aspect of it.

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Jon

It's like a whole new beginning. It's like, oh, so we've talked about like, all right, well, you know, where do we want to take this? And who knows? I mean, we have this comment that's about communication has always been that's one of the best things that we do. And so we're exploring is, you know, hey, do want to try this or I want to try that, I want to come down to that.

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Jon

I mean, basically she understands it pretty much. If she has an idea that I'm going to probably say yes. And, you know, it's I'm sort of that way. And then with her, it's like she's got some hard nosed that I know what they are. And it's like, other than that, right, let's do it. In the traveling thing is, is her because she definitely is like, well, this isn't the nature of what we do.

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Jon

It's like, you know, I don't want to run into somebody I know. So the way we hit up the truck and hop in the RV and go a couple hundred miles an hour, it's a whole different story. And so that becomes our inspiration. It's like, oh, we're going to leave, we're going to be out of town. Okay.

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Jon

What are we going to give? You know, what are we going to do? Let's see.

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Luna

Endless possibilities.

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Jon

I certainly didn't have being says that on my list, but it's.

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Luna

I love it. I have and and you know, I'm a tri three times sexual. I always think like for just two, three times. And then if I want to retire it, I do. So that's kind of how like my bucket list has like three checkmarks. But usually if I do more than once, I want more personally. But I'm always curious to see if there's more.

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Jon

The next thing. And things would be like one of those feel them, you know. Oh yeah, she's been so much just like, you know, really like that. Like have some sort of mutual.

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Luna

Yeah. I have one that's like the just a base that goes inside. And I had a hard times during that one. I'm really curious about the ones that are like the bendy double ended dildos too. I haven't had a partner to try that with you as.

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Jon

Well as well. I was reading someone that that and we were looking at and just a person gave a tip and they said use like Spanx or like some sort of tight clothing to and then cut a hole and sort of to hold it in, like panties, a pantyhose, even.

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Luna

Oh, I love that that it be still hot. Okay, good pro tip or good research tip.

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Jon

Yes. God bless the internet.

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Luna

Any hopes for the future? Or like sexy hopes for the world or anything that you just like, want to wrap up with?

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Jon

I really hope that for the world that that we really just calm the fuck down, you know? Yeah.

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Luna

Yeah, I mean, I do, I do I'm like, could we just take care of each other and try to not be assholes to each other and just, like, make it a more loving place, maybe a little bit, and cheer on the shame and the blame and a judgment. But not just sexually, but like, everywhere. I feel that for sure.

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Luna

Yeah, yeah.

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Jon

That's. But I mean, that's kind of a hard core thing, but I'm like as far as me is to new period of life that brings, you know, it brings different challenges, but it also brings, you know, some opportunities to try things when you start to reach that grandparent stage, you don't think that that possibility exists, but it definitely does.

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Luna

Yes. Oh my gosh. Well, thank you so much for sharing your updates with us.