Fetish porn, healing retreats, pegging joy, and spiritual connection—Shay Sights shares how she built a life of creativity, sensuality, and unconditional love while rebuilding a beach resort and exploring gangbangs.

📈 STATS | 51 bisexual single woman, she/her pronouns, holistic healer, porn star,  property manager, Vancouver native, Los Angeles-based, into: twisted mommy talk, adventure, connection, pushing the envelope, fetish play, taboo play, ramping up energy with partners, originality, and coming up with creative content ideas to turn other people on, building things, gardening, animals, and remote places.

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Luna

Our guest today is a bisexual single woman who usually has relationships with men and is into adventure, romance, connection and pushing the envelope, getting freaky with things like fetish and taboo play. She loves ramping up energy with partners, originality, and coming up with creative content ideas to turn other people on. A holistic healer, porn star and property manager who loves building things, gardening, animals and quiet, remote places like the abandoned beach resort in Mexico.

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Luna

She's currently rehabbing. Originally from Vancouver, Canada, now based in Los Angeles, California. Welcome sight.

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Shay

Thank you. What a lovely intro. It's really special. It's.

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Luna

Special. You gave me a lot of good stuff to work with, and I'm so excited to dive in. But could you first start off by telling us in general before we get to anything sexy or connection or love related, what do you love in life? What gets you excited? What makes you go woo!

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Shay

Okay, well the woo at the end now I'm like, my answer was going to be boring.

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Luna

So that's okay.

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Shay

The norm for me is to like be having sex every day and doing all sorts of fun, exciting things, which is still great. But the really exciting thing for me is when I have, connected time off and I can like, be in jamas or comfortable clothes and, you know, be able to chill out when I have a studio scene or something and it gets canceled or rescheduled, and I find myself with a day which I never get because I'm incredibly busy and I'm like, yeah, that is like, I mean, you must have just told me, like, you know, you can fly to Paris on a private jet and have dinner or something.

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Shay

You know, I'm like, oh my God, I got a whole day. And I'm like, oh, you've actually watched like a few episodes of a show and lay in bed, so that is fun for me.

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Luna

Oh, I love that. Luxurious.

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Shay

Yeah, yeah. Because it's like, you know, the dream for me is a nice, quiet place where I can connect with the person I'm with and be able to talk and share them. Like the the maximum amount of noise I want is like quiet ambient music, like a lounge or something. But yeah.

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Luna

I totally hear that. I feel like such a buzzkill sometimes because I am like, oh no, I really do need it quiet because I'm so noise sensitive. And if there's too many loud sounds, I'm like, you know, so I, I total and beautiful remote spaces are absolutely the jam. Would you say that your project is bringing you joy?

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Luna

I am so curious to hear about rehabbing this place.

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Shay

So so so so I started looking in other countries and I found this website. It was like angel something and I'm super aligned intuitively. So I was like, you know, total chick live here. But I was like, oh, angel something. And I found this beautiful casitas on this huge white sand beach, private beach, private cafes. Casey, this is like 575.

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Shay

And I'm like, what is this? What is this place? And I like Caribbean because I like warm tropical water. I grew up on the West coast. I'm not a surfer, so I don't care. I'm a diver, so I want clear. I want tropics. And so I started researching everything about this town and it checked all the boxes for me.

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Shay

Everything like that I needed was there. I, you know, I found someone who makes kombucha. I found a yoga teacher. I just I got down there and everyone thought I was nuts, and I flew down there and then you like the road opens up to this cute little town. It's a cruise port town and it's just it's magic.

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Shay

So it's kind of the dream. And then the people there, it just they're just amazing, open, unconditional people. And I am so in love with being there.

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Luna

I can't wait to come visit.

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Shay

Yes. Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's such a great place.

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Luna

You have so much in your life. It's a very full life creatively, work wise, and I'm curious to know how you take care of yourself. How do you woo you? Like, what do you do for self-care? For self-love?

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Shay

That's so interesting. You say that because everybody always asks me, like, if you had something to tell younger girls starting in the industry, what would you say? And, like balance, like self-care or self-love. Any time I get a pivot in my life and can take those pajama days or those quiet evenings, I take it. Yeah, I take it.

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Shay

I chill. I also learn to and not from a place of being controlling, but a place of really caring. I like to do everything myself, you know, and make sure it's done right. But I don't have the bandwidth, so I've really I've actually stepped back and let people help me and hired more people and trusted and kind of given some responsibility.

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Shay

So that's helpful. And then self-care wise meditation, I, you know, I've got so I don't have a lot of time and I'm just bopping around doing things I'll try to throw some like, you know, Abraham Hicks or something on in the background and just listen to like, their rampages and just anything to kind of keep me in a nice, chill vibe.

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Shay

My, tolerance for toxicity is like zero in my life is wonderful.

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Luna

That feels like good self-care.

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Shay

Yeah, yeah, I, I think I want to say like, last year was like the last little bit and now, you know, being someone that always wants to make sure everyone else is okay and like, you know, boundaries, those red flags of like, oh, well, they're usually really nice when there's a but a red flag. Now I'm just like, no, no, no, it doesn't feel good.

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Shay

Yeah. And whereas before I would have been like calm being an asshole and it's like, no you're not, you're taking care of yourself, right. Yeah. So yeah. And then I go and I get energy work done as often as possible.

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Luna

I've loved that. Also, I have a phrase for those boundaries where you need to be like, okay, not that person. I'm not an asshole. I say, I wish them well and I wish them away, you know, like it's.

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Shay

Like, yeah, I wish, I wish them away. Yeah. That's different. I say, good luck on your merry journey.

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Luna

I love that.

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Shay

You mean is there any like, over there?

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Luna

Yeah. Over there. Beautiful. How do you feel your work helps people connect with themselves and or each other or spread love.

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Shay

Okay, so I think as far as sex work goes and making movies, I, I started actually in fetish in kink even before I did porn. But the amount of people, you know, whether it's people, you know, whether it's people that just weren't, you know, overly sexually active because, you know, they were shy or couldn't find the right person or couples that are trying to spice things up or what have you.

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Shay

Or, you know, I think that when it's done in a healthy way, I think that any kind of adult entertainment is healthy. And I think that I really help people connect. And I get, you know, a ton of feedback on that. When I do go, when I do go to the conventions, which is just to year, you know, the amount of people that are like, oh my God, you know, because I've been around a long time and I took a break.

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Shay

So a lot of people come up to me and they're like, oh my God, you know, I used to and I'm like, we I'm like, did we grow up together? And they're like, yeah. Then like, did I get you to your college? And they're like, yeah. But then, you know, you have people in the military. They're like, I was away on tour and you know, like things like that.

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Shay

And it's it's things that like, I think a lot of the men in mainstream society would laugh at or snub or sneer at and, you know, this is a genuine, you know, gratitude coming from, from so many different types of people for. So that's the sex work. I think that when people are present and, you know, open with their sexuality where they they want to watch things or not, if they do decide to do that, I think that, adult entertainment can be a very healthy tool for people.

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Shay

So that's the connection. Part of that. Obviously, as a healer, that's pretty self-explanatory. I mean, that is just one being holding space and and, and connection to be able to even be open to that work in those fields. So, you know, connection wise, as far as hospitality and being a landlord goes. Yeah. Every now and then there's someone really frustrated that comes in and it's like I found like, I don't know, I actually have a new management and a new housekeeper.

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Shay

So it doesn't happen anymore. But you know, I've, I raise it on the floor. There's like the people that like just lose their shit and usually they, they're stressed out in life. They've just got to town. And I sit there and I'm like, okay, you know? And I'm like, you know, my and my ego, my inner voice is like, you worked your ass, I know how do you not like it's a beautiful house.

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Shay

And then I'm like, okay, give it a beat, wait till tomorrow. And inevitably they always wake up the next day. They've calmed down. They've decompress, they walk out. It's be I'm in Palm Springs right now. So they walk out and they're like, And then they're much nicer and none of it matters. And, you know, moving on. And that's the rare exception usually is people like whether they're coming in from, you know, some Arctic place in the middle of winter and, you know, oh my God, our kids are so excited.

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Shay

There's a pool and, you know, you have to think about all these memories that you're helping people make, whether it's they're here for an event or they're here for Coachella or they're here for, you know, just because it's really freaking cold where they live and whatever it is, it's these short term guests that have these memories and all this gratitude.

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Shay

And because I self-manage, the connection is is pretty profound, actually. It's like 98% I feel like I get difficult guests. But the cool thing about short term rentals is, they leave, so they leave. Right? And so it's like, even if it's not ideal, it's like, what is that one's this check out. But that's so rare. Like.

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Shay

Yeah. And when you get the messages afterwards that's you know, usually sometimes it's like, oh my God it's amazing. But the ones when they check out and they're like, that was exactly what we needed. You know, it's the best vacation. I got to decompress like it's quiet here. And it's it's just really tranquil and peaceful. And so that's how I connect.

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Shay

I really connect with my guests. And then I have some long term rentals in L.A. And that those three people have been there a very long time. And that's connection within itself too.

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Luna

Yeah, I love that because in your different spheres, I hear there's the version where there's virtual connection available to themselves and or their partners. And then there's the part where you are literally helping people one on one, be available to other people, and then you are literally holding a space, you know, creating space for people to then connect with themselves and each other.

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Luna

So that's it's cool to kind of just see how those three spaces operate. That's really.

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Shay

Cool. The core of my being is spreading love and light and just like trying to make the world a better place. So I feel like that's just what I'm about. So yeah, no matter what business I think I find myself in, I'm always going to. But but I do manifest businesses. I can do that in, because I can't be in any other place at this point in my life.

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Luna

I love that so much. Okay. Let's move on to more sexual topics first I would like to start out with health and safety. I'm always working to normalize health and safety. I know that adult performers have the strictest highest standards. Can you just give us a little bit of overview?

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Shay

Yeah, I'm all about health and safety too. And I have longevity. So this one is interesting. I actually, you know, when we first started years ago like it was Eliza tests. Right. And it was not even PCR, DNA. And what I like about health and safety is that we morph as we need to. And so back in the day, and it's funny because everyone when there is like an outbreak and it's publicized, it's like, oh, there is Aids and porn and you know, of course, because it's porn.

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Shay

And I always say like, get the stats just in, you know, clubbing communities, you know, on different things and people that are being unsafe just in like, you know, those aren't reported. Yeah. And you think about how many porn scenes are shot and how many people are having sex as content creators for their own content as well as on camera and for studios.

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Shay

And it's like, it's massive. I mean, it I mean, it's a huge, huge industry. So, I think that we started out because there wasn't everybody's shooting, you know, for their, their platforms and doing OnlyFans and all that just for the laser tests. And then everyone was going to different countries and then someone did an anal gangbang and there was an HIV breakout.

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Shay

So we had a huge moratorium. And that was the point that we integrated quarantining. When you shot at a country. So if you did go and shoot out of country, because a lot of people and then we brought in PCR, DNA and that we had PCR, DNA first and then people were going to places where they were still doing a laser test.

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Shay

So then we brought in the quarantine after we came back from that moratorium. And then and that was, we tested every 30 days. Now, you have to remember this was back in the day of like, you shoot for feature movies. I mean, this was like when VHS was turning into DVD and it was like just porn stars and everyone knew everyone.

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Shay

No one was shooting content, there was no internet stuff, and you were just doing stuff for the big studios. And, you know, you could do four features a year and be a huge porn star. Wow. Yeah. So now you have to do like, fuck yeah, yeah. Add zeros. Yeah. Well A0, you know, like to stay relevant. Okay. So then fast forward to kind of trying to think of what year that was.

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Shay

So because I think I took a little break as well. So what happened in between there. Like we have blood and urine. So it went to 14 days after the next issue was, somebody faked a test and I actually wasn't shooting at the time, but somebody faked a test. And that was the point that things got a little bit more clear.

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Shay

Make sure my timelines are straight. You and I don't speak out of turn. We cracked down, and I was funny because I actually had like four scenes booked for Brazzers that month. And so what happened was they said, okay, everyone can wait 30 days, or you can just treat for this thing that the person faked and take a giant penicillin shot if you need to shoot.

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Shay

So I ended up having to terminate a drug person at all. I hate meds unless I need to, so I ended up having to treat and take a penicillin shot to be able to shoot my scenes for something, even though I hadn't even been shooting.

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Luna

Wow.

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Shay

So it's pretty gnarly. So that's what I went to 14 days. Are you getting the long version of this? Because I've been around so long, I love it. This is this is an exclusive. Yeah. So now we're at like PCR, DNA every 14 days, blood and urine for HIV, syphilis and then gonorrhea, chlamydia. And then as I want to say, it was like two years ago when we were having some issues with gonorrhea, chlamydia.

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Shay

That was the point that, we brought in swabs. Yeah. So now we're at 14 days. A lot of people test every seven days with clear because they offer that if they're shooting a lot, which I think is a responsible thing to do, I don't shoot that much. But people that are shooting a ton, do. But we're we're it's mandatory every 14 days.

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Shay

And now we do oral and, you know, swabs and they're mandatory for every company, and for everybody. So what's cool about that is, you know, if you are, let's say you're looking at somebody is, you know, pussy or balls or whatever, and saliva is going in their ass. And you can it's harder to do, but you can absolutely get obviously stuff in your throat.

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Luna

I have HSV two in my throat, and every doctor was like, how? And I was like, Deep Throat with someone who lied to me, you know, like an enema. It's like, you know, like I have the suppressive therapies, but it's it is possible. And I didn't know at the time, you know.

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Shay

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now we have mandatory throat and, rectal swabs and that's fine. The dry Q-Tip of your ass, it's like, oh, I think it's worse for the guys that, like, aren't used to putting things in there. So much. Yeah.

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Luna

Do they do pussy swabs, too, or is it. Was that blood?

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Shay

Well, that's. So your genital would be the urine okay.

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Luna

Yeah. Okay.

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Shay

Yeah. So the urine is going to be your genital and then you're doing anal, rectal and throat. And then we also test for men now. Yeah. Okay. And yeah. So so we're pretty rigorous now but I think that so like yeah we've had to flex with it. Right. Because everything has changed. I mean the content in the internet and there's so many more people creating.

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Shay

And so I think it's a good thing.

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Luna

Are you comfortable sharing if you ever have interactions in your personal life, do you just hold them to professional standards like would you have a potential date, go get professionally tested? Like what would you do in that case?

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Shay

If I was in a relationship, I would just have them test every now and then just to make sure they were okay. Because I'm so active, okay. And I mean, if I were in a relationship with someone, they'd probably be shooting because that's just the way I look, right, right, right. Like, hey, come on, I get your dick.

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Luna

But you're but you're not, like, constantly going on dates with, like, regular civilian people. I guess I should say.

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Shay

Yeah, yeah, but if I were going on dates with civilian people and just having casual sex, I think I have a responsibility to the industry. And I absolutely would hold them to industry standards.

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Luna

Right? I love that, I love that. Okay. Okay. Continuing with our sexy line of questioning, if you had to rate yourself on a sexual shame meter with ten being the most full of shame and zero being like, I don't have any, where do you fall today, right now and when if ever has it squiggle over the years.

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Shay

I you know, when I started in the beginning, I certainly I think I did some things that I'm like, I mean, I don't know that I would like I did this one called Toilet Tramps where they like put your head in toilets and shit like that. And I'm definitely more dummy than I am CB so I don't know.

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Shay

I like there's certain ones that I'm like, at the time I was like, sure or whatever. Like I just kind of did everything and I think I'm a little more selective now, but I don't know, people would probably beg to differ if they were watching on my stepmom stuff, because that that gets pretty twisted too. So I don't know who knows.

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Shay

Okay. And like shameful. As far as cringing, I cringe more at people and their just their lack of consciousness as far as judgment because it's so interesting, you know, and I don't I'm not. But I'm a very spiritual person and I'm, I'm super open to organized religion if that's what makes someone happy. Right? I just feel like if it's causing separation.

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Shay

And so it's always interesting to me when people point out, like in the name of God or in the like, they want to judge. And I'm just sitting there and going like, dude, like you're missing the entire point of the whole thing. Like, you know, you're deciding in your human ego. Like it's like only the eagle comparison judges.

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Shay

So you're already out of alignment with your God source. Just in pointing out that I'm doing something wrong and trying to. So I and I stopped. So do I have shame? No. I mean, sometimes I actually feel just like a little bit, you know, bad for other people. Yeah. You know, that they're so hateful because that that makes me sad, actually.

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Shay

You know, like, I had one guy send me, I can't remember. It's like, you know, usually my answer, if there is one and all is just like, well, like, guess my page. Yeah. Or like, I'll make it easy for you block, you know? Yeah. And I just think it's interesting that they're on your page watching it and they know about it and then decide that they're going to have a God complex and say all the reasons why God has an issue with me.

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Shay

And I'm like, nah, I'm good with God. And I'm like, yeah, I'm pretty good with with my higher power. So, so like shame. What makes me cringe, honestly, is like, I had some guy, so he was just sending really hateful stuff and sent me, a picture of someone actively, like, being burned at a stake and telling me that, like, you know, I'm going to burn in hell, and that it did that and that for me, I didn't sit there and look at my life.

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Shay

I actually did the same thing I do when like, you know, the war broke out in the Ukraine or any of that kind of thing that's planetary. That's just so heartbreaking. I looked at that and it made me sad, and I'm like, how can you be so fucking disconnected that you have that much hate within yourself that you projected at a stranger?

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Shay

And that's what makes me really cringe is just, you know, when I lose faith in humanity, you know, so totally out of me. But as far as my career and things I've done, I'm, I'm a big believer and like it all got you here, you know? Yeah. And you have to have the contrasts to get your perspective of of what you like and what you don't like and to kind of tune in to like, you know, being a little more definitive of how you want to create your life.

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Shay

So I don't really look back on, things I've done and choices I've made and gone, oh, I shouldn't have done that, because I really feel like if I hadn't have done it, would I be here? And I'm pretty happy with my life now.

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Luna

I love that answer so, so much. I've also heard that haters are just confused. Fans, you know, because they're still giving their energy. It's just got a different name on it.

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Shay

Confused fans. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Because it's like, how are you? I just, you know, that's always the big answer. So she with like the fanatical like, you know, hardcore religious stuff. It's like you just took the time and like if you truly believe that it was so terrible, wouldn't you just go about your merry way over there?

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Shay

Yeah. Yeah. And not be on plunge tours pages. Like, what are you doing on my pages? And then the Gog, and then it's like, okay, so then the answer would probably be like, well, God called on me to get you straight. And I'm like, did you though?

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Luna

Did he though he really? Yeah. He also isn't. Isn't God supposed to be unconditional? Love is kind of what I want.

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Shay

I love like that. Like resides within all of us. And it's like, but you're the person is going to be a complete dick to me because that feels really godly. Like, I don't know. And but yeah, I love it. Confused fans because why are you there? Like, why are you on my page and why are you writing me?

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Shay

Yeah. But yeah. So if anybody wants to do that, I don't answer, I just blog.

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Luna

I love that good.

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Shay

Yeah.

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Luna

What? Today, at this point in your life and you're being experience what is sexy to you?

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Shay

Amazing human beings like amazing, humble humans with good energy. Like, sure. I love, you know, beautiful people and all sorts of different ways. Like, I like a little bit of everything, men and women and variety. But I have found that energy, like, if you just take a picture and you look at a man and a woman and what you think your ideal attractive person is, and you give them just really shitty energy, they're no longer attractive.

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Shay

But if you take someone that maybe isn't what you think your ideal is visually and gives them amazing energy that just fulfills something within you, makes you feel good, they become way more attractive. So I'm going to say, you know, obviously there's certain physical characteristics I like, but I but like way less so than ever in my life.

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Shay

Like for me, I'm going to say like it's real. What's really sexy is just an amazing vibe and a really balanced person with very little ego. And, and I just, I like humble. I like humility, you know? Yeah, I like people that want to learn and not need to be right and don't talk over you and actually can hold space and listen.

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Shay

And there's like a nice balance, right?

00:24:25:04 - 00:24:46:06

Luna

Oh, I love that answer. It's causing me to reflect on the fact that I'm I'm not exactly face blind, but I don't remember faces. Like, I have to really get to know a person's energy before I can visually map them into my memory. And so, like in terms of people have been attracted to over the years, it always has been connection based, which is energy based.

00:24:46:06 - 00:24:49:15

Luna

So I'm like hearing that so hard in your answer.

00:24:49:17 - 00:25:05:04

Shay

Oh I love yeah. Because I mean I think that's what that's what connection is, right? That's what gets you because you know, the visual or just the talking. I mean, I think that's a little bit more fleeting. I think that actually connecting and that's an energy thing.

00:25:05:04 - 00:25:29:18

Luna

So yeah, I would love to hear the like timeline per what you deem important of how you learned about love, sex, connection and pleasure throughout your years. You know, maybe starting with did you get sex ed? When do you first remember hearing about sex? Maybe working in professional stuff as you see fit? Like what are the important timeline of your sexy, loving personal development?

00:25:29:20 - 00:25:52:22

Shay

Well, sex I learned about through sex work. So like I, I was working in a really nice ladies clothing store when I was, you know, like 19 and I answered this ad for stripper grounds. And then I started, like, doing those and then and then it moved in and there were like these funny, like, my car broke down and then you do these lingerie telegrams, and then I moved into bachelor parties and I was making more money on the weekends.

00:25:52:22 - 00:26:11:20

Shay

Then I made, like all week working in this lady's clothing store in the summer. And when I was going to college and I'm like, like, what are we doing? And and it was just is okay. Never. You know, this is and if I can even say this anymore but it's how I relate. So feel my energy. I always I'm like, I'm wired more like a dude.

00:26:11:22 - 00:26:33:12

Shay

And I'm not saying that they just do it, but it's just like, I feel like men are wired in a way where they're less emotional about sex and they can just go, doesn't matter. But when they have a connection, they have a connection. And so for me, I've never been like attached to sex. So even in like high school, I just it was like I would ever like, you know, I was pretty sexually active and it was just no big deal.

00:26:33:14 - 00:26:34:02

Luna

Okay.

00:26:34:04 - 00:26:58:12

Shay

But I didn't have I don't think I really understood a new connection. So then I got into sex work. I was doing, like, lingerie and then bachelor parties, and then, I started and then I started dancing on stage, and then that's when I moved. I was in Toronto and I met Diana Lauren, who's on contract with vivid, and that's how I started.

00:26:58:14 - 00:27:09:16

Shay

And then two people out there scouted me like I just found me. So it had to be in my vibration. Like, I mean, I never it people have these stories of how they like, sorted out and went and got an interview. Like I just had people coming to me going, you want to be in a porno? You want to be.

00:27:09:16 - 00:27:28:18

Shay

And I'm like, so it's just not a big deal. And I was it's like the universal like, okay, let's, let's put you naked in front of like a group of people in a private space. Okay? Let's put you naked on a stage now and then let's, you know, and then I was like, okay, yeah, no big deal. But connection wise, I want to say connection happened.

00:27:29:08 - 00:27:57:17

Shay

When I started to evolve and grow spiritually. So, you know. Sure. When I was younger did I have did I love people? Yes. But did I know how to really integrate connection into sexuality and also like all the different layers of when you do it, like, you know, if I were to be doing something really kink based, I'm not like super open, especially if I'm doing more dummy stuff.

00:27:57:17 - 00:28:17:12

Shay

I'm like pulled in and like, fuck yeah, I'm grounded. You know, if I'm shooting like, second gangbang or something, I'm not like, like open heart chakra, you know what I mean? In fact, what I liked about the gangbang I just shot for Brazzers was I am so, you know, I would say in my oh, really? In my brain.

00:28:17:12 - 00:28:39:10

Shay

But I'm very like particular and thinking about things and business minded on some levels as well as being very spiritual. And I just like it was really nice having four guys just throw me around. Like I couldn't think like I couldn't. It was just like, just put me and so like that, that allowed me to be sabi, because sabi isn't really my personality.

00:28:39:12 - 00:29:04:12

Shay

Okay. You know, so that was kind of cool. But but so again, not connected. But I think that I've learned to navigate when, when it calls for being a bit more connected and when it doesn't. I think I learned to through opening up spiritually and just being more connected to spirit and and being more open in general and being more unconditionally loving.

00:29:04:14 - 00:29:22:02

Shay

Learn to connect to more, in anything intimate in my life like it was never the sex work. It was always the spiritual growth that taught me connection. And I just integrated it into an already very open sex life.

00:29:22:04 - 00:29:30:06

Luna

I love that so much. Circling back a little bit, did you ever get like a sex talk or sex education?

00:29:30:07 - 00:29:57:15

Shay

No. Growing up, I actually, you know, I was an only child. I grew up with a very old school father who he did the very best he could with the tools he had. And I was very loved, but he wasn't very good at, like, you know, he took me, I ski raised and he, like, went to every race and he, he like, you know, show me how to wax my skis and like, made sure I had a really good work ethic and, you know, paid for college and all that stuff.

00:29:57:15 - 00:30:16:23

Shay

But yeah, he wasn't very good at the warm fuzzy or like the positive reinforcement. And I remember when I was like, hey, I think I need deodorant. I was like 12 or 13. And he was like, I don't know if you need that and just kind of like ran away. It is not being mean, but just like, yeah, you know, so I never really had.

00:30:17:00 - 00:30:42:02

Shay

Yeah. I mean I just think everyone's wired differently. And it was just part of my being like, I, I kind of learned about sexuality just from, you know, sexual experiences. I mean, I skipped two years school and I'm a march baby, so I was already kind of younger than everyone. And I even had a boyfriend in high school all the way through high school.

00:30:42:02 - 00:31:00:20

Shay

And I was just, like, sexually active. I don't know, but but I don't know that I was really I was just experimenting and stuff, you know? Yeah. And then you slowly kind of learn to teach yourself as a woman to me anyways, like how things should feel good and stuff and then you learn I it's been it's been an evolution.

00:31:00:20 - 00:31:22:23

Shay

I mean, it's still an evolution. Yeah. But in fact, I think I could still learn even more about being connected and, and, like tantric experiences and things like that, because that's something I don't, you know, I either have, like sexual experiences or I have, you know, energy healing experiences, but I haven't done a whole lot of combining.

00:31:23:02 - 00:31:58:03

Shay

But I certainly have I I'm pretty good at palpating like, okay, I'm really connected to this person, so I'm going to completely drop the guard. And I'm not shy at all right now. I'm just me. And we're going to just have like nice connected at home sex, which I'm still really sexual, you know, and stuff. But there's, there's all these different facets of like, are you like feeling really in the moment and just running a bench over the kitchen counter when you walk in the door or like, are you just watching TV or like, you know, I don't know, there's just I still think there's facets to connected sex, too.

00:31:58:05 - 00:32:02:09

Shay

Oh, I think I'm still learning and growing, for sure.

00:32:02:11 - 00:32:23:12

Luna

I love that I'm learning and growing forever. And as you're talking, I'm like, oh my gosh, I think I'm connected and heavy. But also I have the same sort of like, I don't need to be with a till death do us part lover to enjoy sex. Like I can kind of like create connection, but I need a little bit of connection.

00:32:23:14 - 00:32:28:10

Luna

Unless the game is like, throw me around and I'm a ragdoll, you know, and that's agreed upon ahead of time or whatever.

00:32:28:10 - 00:32:51:13

Shay

Yeah, yeah, well, that's my second less. You're doing like, something kink related or like a gang banger because I just. And she likes shooting studio scenes. It's really difficult for me because I really want things to come across. So I like to gang bang, too, because I didn't think at all. And I had really good male talent, and it's put me where I needed to be because I've done production for so long.

00:32:51:15 - 00:33:14:07

Shay

You give me a sex scene and there's like parts of it where I can enjoy myself and and stuff, but then there's parts of it where I'm directing and I'm like, where's the camera? And I opened it up because you're still entertaining. And the reality of it for people who watch porn is if two people just had sex on camera like they do it, everyone says, oh, I want to see amateur.

00:33:14:07 - 00:33:38:14

Shay

I want it to be real. Like at home. I watched my scenes early on and I discovered something that that I think is really important, which is when you're actually having sex, you're feeling it, you're in it and you're feeling it and you're having the experience. So there's no need to entertain because your having the experience and feeling.

00:33:38:18 - 00:33:58:09

Shay

So five minutes can go by doing something if it just feels good or whatever, because you're feeling if you're watching it. My personal opinion is if you watch somebody having at home sex, you wouldn't be. It was going to be kind of dark, probably. Maybe not. I don't know, it's not going to be lit. You're not going to be open.

00:33:58:09 - 00:33:59:11

Shay

You're going to be able to see shit.

00:33:59:12 - 00:34:01:15

Luna

You're gonna be able to see stuff. Yeah, yeah. The angles.

00:34:01:15 - 00:34:20:11

Shay

And you're going to watch the same thing because I watched my earliest scenes and I'm like, oh my God, I'm not talking at all. And like five minutes just went by like, boom! I'm like, and I'm like, that's boring. And so it's not that it's acting, but I actually learned to like, be more animated and that brought that out of me.

00:34:20:11 - 00:34:44:19

Shay

And I like it more. But I just think that when you're shooting, you have to oh, you have to remember too, that like we are entertaining. So and it depends on like, you know, you're shooting for pure taboo that day and like have to carry on like mommy talk throughout your entire scene or are you shooting, you know, a deep and you've got to prep for anal and you're really fucking hungry and you're a little bit dizzy because you haven't eaten for a day and like, you know, like what you.

00:34:44:20 - 00:35:16:00

Shay

So there's just all sorts of things that go on with being. It was entertaining. So studios like when you're shooting and it's for entertainment value, I just think it's a lot harder to be as connected. Like that's still a way different thing than like I'm going to have like really freaky sex at home. Yeah. Or I'm going to have really connected, like lovemaking at home, and then you're going to have you're never going to have really connected lovemaking on camera that I well, I think I'm sure people shoot that.

00:35:16:02 - 00:35:38:16

Shay

I don't, I don't think, I just think at this point in my career, my fan base would be like, can you open up so I can see things a little more? But I don't really think that you like, when you go and shoot a studio movie, really have the option of a truly being. I could probably get away with it if I was shooting content and throwing it on my hands and saying, hey, like, here's some real sex with me at home.

00:35:38:22 - 00:36:03:09

Shay

Yeah. And that would be kind of fun and amateur. And I do that a lot more on my platforms. Okay. But as I, if I went and tried to just like have sex like I have at home on camera, they'd be like, you know what is, we can't shoot that for 20 minutes. And people, you know, I feel like it's a little harder because you have to be aware of where the cameras are, and it's hard to stay connected when you're thinking about things.

00:36:03:11 - 00:36:26:19

Luna

Totally. It's so interesting because I understand that everyone wants the experience of it feel feeling real. And even these podcasts are edited because nobody wants to listen to the way that most people actually speak, because there's a lot of boring pauses that feel too long in the same way that, like I as a photographer, director, filmmaker, we are selecting a shot.

00:36:26:20 - 00:36:53:09

Luna

We're not just showing you everything, it's always a and and the reason that that is a good thing for creators, in my mind, is that we as performers, as filmmakers, as whatever, you know, the creators models, it's creating the emotional experience for the audience. And it's a skill like like actors, you know, with like very few people watch cinema very, you know, they don't want to watch the old kind of like Italian stuff.

00:36:53:09 - 00:36:57:20

Luna

That's neorealism. There's no actors like most people are like they want some sort of curated experience.

00:36:57:20 - 00:37:04:02

Shay

So where was that? That one was a little boy. And it was. He worked in the cinema. It burnt down.

00:37:04:04 - 00:37:07:02

Luna

There's a there's a few, but it's just like there's yeah.

00:37:07:06 - 00:37:10:23

Shay

I don't know what was that one. It's like that in Italy.

00:37:11:01 - 00:37:35:21

Luna

Yeah. There's like one with a bicycle. There's like a bicycle. There's there's a bunch of different, like all like Italian neorealism and like the French into it. Like it's. And it's some people really like it if that's what you're into, you know, some people really like that. But again, if we can't see juicy bits, then we also I think it's harder to learn from it, you know, if it's just obscured.

00:37:35:21 - 00:37:55:15

Luna

And so it's like, yeah, I'm always curious about what people are learning from what they watch on, on camera, whether it's for mainstream entertainment or not. Right. Like whether it's adult and naughty. But yeah, it's like we have to be able to to glean some emotion. And like any performance or any curated experience, it is curated.

00:37:55:17 - 00:38:24:15

Shay

I actually shoot a lot of beats. And so I'll put a beats reel together, I'll put it up on my socials and, let people, you know, see that and, and see the outtakes and see how it's shot. And I'll do like a time lapse on, on the, you know, but I, I feel like that way at least if they really want to see it, they can buy that or watch small parts or whatever it is if they really want it, but then they're not forced to see it because I'm with you.

00:38:24:15 - 00:38:52:05

Shay

I think people think they want realism, but it's because they don't actually know. Yeah, what that means. Like they want it to be real, but still entertaining. Yeah. Adding some editing and that involves a little bit of, I think, I don't know, a character's the wrong word because it's not like. I mean, I for sure, I'm Shay and I'm also my real name's Kirsten, which I have no issue with because it's an easy Google.

00:38:52:10 - 00:39:03:09

Shay

Yeah. That both of those versions of me, there's the healer and there's the porn star, and then there's all the different layers in between, but they're all the one big hole of me. Yeah. You know.

00:39:03:12 - 00:39:25:07

Luna

Absolutely. No. Yeah. And I think it's very normalized to have personas even on social media that is safe for work. You know, like and reels are hyper edited and have all kinds of like stuff in them, you know, so something that even used to be like the normal everyday got it with our phone thing is like the production value or across the board are all ramping up.

00:39:25:09 - 00:39:54:05

Shay

I do a massive amount of bloopers, in fact, like I shoot a lot of reels and like some of them are really intricate and I my joke is always like you know, the heart of the real is to shoot like that's unlike that. That's like 90% bloopers right there. And I just keep all the footage and I'll put the reel up and then I'll put like all the bloopers up, and then I'll put something up that's like, okay, don't think that this is what life is like.

00:39:54:08 - 00:40:16:23

Shay

And I'll put all the bloopers of trying to get it, and then I'll put the actual real at the end. And I'm like, like, this is what it takes to get this. Because I do think I think that it's gotten a little unhealthy on social media with, with all of the like, filters and edits and everything else, and people that watch that think that, like, that's how this that's the life we're supposed to have.

00:40:16:23 - 00:40:22:16

Shay

And I'm like, I don't know, man. Like, yeah, like 90% bloopers. Yeah.

00:40:22:16 - 00:40:24:09

Luna

Like yeah I totally.

00:40:24:12 - 00:40:36:05

Shay

That's that's like the reality of my life. I don't like just rock ers. It's like, here's me before makeup, fix me after makeup here's like, you know, or whatever or this or that or it just it takes a lot to get there.

00:40:36:05 - 00:40:57:22

Luna

And I love hearing, but would you just make list for us some of the things that you've done over the years that have been slutty, fun, weird, vanilla, like whatever, can you just like list things? We've heard gangbang. We heard about having your head in a toilet. And are you do you identify just as like, curious like. Or is it whatever comes up like, like, tell us how you move through.

00:40:58:00 - 00:41:17:09

Shay

All of this. I don't want to scare people. I'm not going to, like, image you with a strap on, but I really love tagging. Like, love it. So like, I love it. And only but only if someone else loves it. So like, I like to dance only if it's like passionate dancing. And I don't mind subbing a little bit.

00:41:17:11 - 00:41:38:11

Shay

Like for someone who knows how to dance. Like if it's just someone who's fucking, like, experimenting and going to like, wrap a slug around me and do dumb shit, I don't want any part of that. But if it's like a professional dom, it's actually kind of fun for me. Like the gangbang, it's like, oh, okay. Like, you actually are really good at this and it kind of is fun, but, and I'm not like full time into fetish and kink.

00:41:38:11 - 00:41:53:19

Shay

I just kind of dabble here and there, but I have I have a lot of fun. So I did a painting scene with Michael Vegas, and that was just so amazing, because the shit that he can put up his ass was like, I just, I mean, or a very little. I was just like, oh my God, am I doing this?

00:41:53:21 - 00:42:17:13

Shay

So that was so cool. And then I work with Slayer sometimes, and you know, I don't I very rarely get to like go to a dungeon and do fun stuff like that. And when I latex and pick someone so like that to me fun. The gangbang fun doing, let me in my, featurette series for adult time for Bree Mills with Reagan Fox.

00:42:17:13 - 00:42:46:00

Shay

Everyone says we look like each other. We did Let Me in last year, and we're shooting. Actually, let me into, April 15th, 16th and 17th of this month. Obviously it's April, and that's been really cool because we co-wrote it and it's it's just amazing. In the early 2000s, I, wrote, directed and produced some stuff for myself which actually had some spirituality and consciousness in it.

00:42:47:09 - 00:43:10:18

Shay

My first movie was called Sex Illusions. My second one was called The Goddess Code, and those were vignettes, but they had cool voiceovers, and there was subliminal messages in there. And, those were really fun for me. I mean, I just had such a long career. So when I think of all of like the older Golden age of porn and stuff, that whole thing just feels really cool to me.

00:43:10:18 - 00:43:29:06

Shay

Like having it have been a part of when Adam was at the Venetian and, you know, when it was like vineyard work in VQA and we had those, you know, the box covers and all that, that stuff was just different. I don't know, I've kind of actually had fun getting into, like the mommy talk just because it's a challenge.

00:43:29:08 - 00:43:44:06

Shay

It's like, okay, how can I get good at this and be really twisted because I've just embraced it now. It's my genre. It's like, I'm really grateful that The Millstone was so big. So I'm like, oh, okay, this is. But it's totally different. I never did it before. I first I came back and I'm like, what happened to porn?

00:43:44:08 - 00:44:03:06

Shay

And then I was just like, oh, well, this is kind of interesting and different. And I'm like, when I left everyone was just peeing all over the place for no reason. And every penthouse shoot, everything was peeing. And I'm like, okay, now you're not allowed to pee after you can only squirt, right? So whether you're peeing or squirting, it's called squirt.

00:44:03:07 - 00:44:23:18

Shay

And that's totally not allowed anymore. However, you can fuck your entire family as long as there's a step in fastest wild. But I do actually kind of try to have fun with like getting into like the really twisted stuff with, with the mommy talk. So that's been kind of fun for me.

00:44:23:20 - 00:44:27:22

Luna

Do you write it on the fly like you're coming up with the talk?

00:44:28:02 - 00:44:47:20

Shay

Oh, so a lot of a lot of stuff is scripted. I mean, I we, we co-wrote Greg and I co-wrote let Me In. But no, it's scripted, but talking is kind of Deep Throat. And to your point, I've never like, you know, I can do things like anal and stuff, but I've never been like, I'm not the, like, double anal girl.

00:44:47:20 - 00:45:20:19

Shay

I'm not that, like, super extreme, like, you know, oh, my God, that kind of thing. But the things I'm known for are talking and Deep Throat, so, I've always just been able to talk, I think, because I watched my scenes early on and I'm like, oh my God, that's really boring. Like, and I just started talking and then I, I shoot so much POV that I just, I don't know, I maybe it's stream of consciousness or something, but I can just talk for like I can just talk and I love it.

00:45:20:19 - 00:45:36:09

Shay

And so and I and I like, like saying things and seeing what, you know can come out of my mouth next. And so, yeah, if I'm able to add land, which most companies let you, I just go that so cool.

00:45:36:14 - 00:45:48:13

Luna

Okay. So are there any other like, specific sensations, turn ons, fetishes, kinks or toys that feel fun to talk about for you? Like, I know that you've, like, done it all, but I'm just curious.

00:45:48:15 - 00:46:07:18

Shay

Well, there's like new things now. Like I got into the womanizer a little bit. The ones that actually like suck your clit, which are really cool, and there's new ones now that are like instead of the rabbit, right where there's like something going like this on your clit, there's like actually a little sucker on your clit and a dildo, which is like kind of amazing.

00:46:07:19 - 00:46:26:00

Shay

So toy wise, yes, I love that. And then, I mean, I always have fun wearing a strap on, but only if somebody wants me to. I don't like totally turn ons and sensations like I like. I like new experiences and I like, you know. Yeah, it's kind of like, oh, that sounds fun. Or like, yeah, why not? You know what I mean?

00:46:26:00 - 00:46:29:17

Shay

Like, yeah, that whole adventure of something new, I like that.

00:46:29:19 - 00:46:43:07

Luna

I love that. Do you feel comfy? Just like talking about your pussy a little. Like it sounds like you're clit is able to receive direct stimulation from clit sucker. Like, what are your parts like, sensation wise? What do you like to receive sensation wise?

00:46:43:09 - 00:46:51:01

Shay

Yeah, I like I mean I, I like actually kind of gentle touch on my clit. Like I'm not like, you know what I mean.

00:46:51:03 - 00:46:52:02

Luna

00:46:52:15 - 00:47:16:05

Shay

You know, I can ramp up a little bit but I like, I like the clit suckers but not like on full throttle thing. But like if I had I would say like I really like something inside of me with a little bit of clit stimulation at the same time. So those new toys have been like lovely, but also like I'm not opposed to, a dick inside of me and, like, playing with my clit or, you know.

00:47:16:07 - 00:47:16:18

Shay

Yeah.

00:47:16:20 - 00:47:23:01

Luna

Yeah, for sure. Do you have a favorite thing to teach other people about sex?

00:47:23:03 - 00:47:49:11

Shay

Oh, God, I would say I would. That has to be communicate because everybody's body is so different. And what everyone likes is so different. And even like, you know, it varies depending like, for me, I'm in one mood one day and one mood the next. So I think it has to be communication because I feel like if, if, you know, if you go down on somebody, you know, even if it's a woman or a man and you're not communicative and you just do what you think everybody likes.

00:47:49:13 - 00:48:16:10

Shay

I mean, some people like, there's so many different ways to eat a pussy. It's not like, you know, and if you could try to watch and and anticipate body language, but I feel like, does that feel good? How about this stronger, harder joints and like actually fucking asking. I mean, when I suck a dick for the first time, like it's like, do you like your balls played like, oh, it's because I'm always like, I don't neglect the balls are just there, so why not?

00:48:16:12 - 00:48:29:06

Shay

But you don't know. It's some people are like, no, not at all. Same thing with nipples and some people are like, yeah, fucking crank on them. And I'm like, really? And I'm like, don't tell me to do that. Like that's. And you know what I mean? I like, you know, you can pull them as hard as you want, like, are you sure?

00:48:29:06 - 00:48:51:18

Shay

Because I'm going to fucking go. Have you let me go? Like, that's me. Like I'm very courteous and kind and and generous and compassionate. But if you're like, you can go like my devil horns. I'll pop up and I'm like, let's go. So I would say communication for sure. Everybody is I think I think that life is just so fluid.

00:48:51:18 - 00:49:16:03

Shay

Right? I, you know, not everybody's like, I don't know if you watch the show severance, but it's like not everybody's so like the dude like all the time. Always the same. It's like I think that we have different experiences and have different moods and and maybe our sexual needs are similar from day to day, but I also think everyone changes there too.

00:49:16:03 - 00:49:40:05

Shay

So yeah, it's like, what do you. So let's say you know, someone's body. Maybe then like the communication that day would be like, what do you feel like doing? Yeah, I feel I just, I just feel like, you know, people that just plow through and don't talk and ask and like, you know, communicate. I don't know, it's not really my jam.

00:49:40:06 - 00:49:49:22

Luna

Same whenever someone's like, so like, what do you like what's good for you? I'm like, I like to explore what my body is into today with a partner. You know, if I'm doing if I'm doing. Yeah.

00:49:49:22 - 00:50:17:10

Shay

Exactly. Yeah, yeah. And then keep communicating from there like that feels good. That does okay. Because I feel like two women, I'm not all women, but like, having a voice. I'm actually saying, especially with men, like, you know, a man that thinks he knows how to eat a pussy and never asks how to do it, and just as to like, how many women just lie there and just, like, don't have orgasms or like, you know, or like, let's say it's taking 30 minutes and it could take five.

00:50:17:15 - 00:50:32:06

Shay

Yeah. You know what I mean? Because they don't actually want to hurt the person's feelings or have a voice and say, hey, could you be a little gentler here? And I like this, or when they're doing something like, oh, that feels good, or just like, I don't know, I think it's so important.

00:50:32:09 - 00:50:46:09

Luna

Totally. I also have had lovers recently. Do lovers reveal to me that they feel like they should know how to eat a pussy, but they've just been faking it until they come to me looking for help, you know, looking for guidance. And I have to kind of give them the skills.

00:50:46:09 - 00:50:47:10

Shay

Like they do that.

00:50:47:12 - 00:50:48:02

Luna

Yeah.

00:50:48:04 - 00:51:04:10

Shay

I really should do that is so amazing because I feel like there's also a lot of men that would never ask. Yeah. And maybe that was just what I was attracting at the time. But I went through a whole slew of just like guys that just like, this is the way I'm going to eat pussy, because I'm me and I'm good at it.

00:51:04:10 - 00:51:05:14

Shay

And I'm like.

00:51:05:16 - 00:51:13:15

Luna

I think it's cultural norms. I think, I think that's I think that's definitely been a thing because guys get pressured to, you know, to kind of be an authority in certain ways, even though it's like.

00:51:13:15 - 00:51:16:12

Shay

Yeah, I'll figure it out for sure. It is. Yeah.

00:51:16:14 - 00:51:24:07

Luna

Do you have conversations and ongoing conversations with your partners on set? Like, what is that kind of sexual communication like?

00:51:24:09 - 00:51:41:22

Shay

Oh yeah, we we have to now with compliance. It's so different. So that's how the industry has changed so much like we go and we have to take a video of like, are you under the influence of anything? Are you you know, here we are and say well and like do's and don'ts. And then we sit down usually and go over with each other what we're into, what we're not.

00:51:41:22 - 00:51:54:16

Shay

And that can actually be kind of fun because it's like, yes and no. And it's like, absolutely not. And if you're with someone really cool and open, like usually we'll say, like what we want to do and what feels good and what's fun and entertaining.

00:51:54:18 - 00:51:58:23

Luna

Yeah that's awesome. Is that, is that recorded or is that just a private conversation.

00:51:59:01 - 00:52:19:02

Shay

That's usually open. And with the I mean that's compliance. But then I mean I'll usually if I, if I don't know the person I usually ask like is there anything you want me to do more than like, you know, and some people like to connect more and some people are like, absolutely no. I walk away, I look at their phone screen like, no connection.

00:52:19:04 - 00:52:20:19

Shay

Everyone's different, you know?

00:52:20:21 - 00:52:25:07

Luna

Yeah, yeah. Do you have any like, stand out favorite experiences?

00:52:25:09 - 00:52:46:06

Shay

Well, I have so many. But for different reasons based on how I felt that like, you know, to certain girl group performers, I love working with and like, sometimes it's because we have a lot of fun or they're really into girls and it's passionate, but then it's like, but really like, you know, flogging and pegging, you know, Slayer and that.

00:52:46:09 - 00:52:56:21

Shay

So it's like I just it's hard because there's so many for different reasons. Yeah. So I mean yes, too many to name, I love that.

00:52:56:23 - 00:53:04:12

Luna

Is there anything on your bucket list erotically that you haven't gotten to yet that you'd love to do on or off camera?

00:53:04:14 - 00:53:07:08

Shay

Can I want to do a gangbang with more people?

00:53:07:10 - 00:53:08:17

Luna

How many? How many?

00:53:08:19 - 00:53:31:17

Shay

Well, okay. So that yeah, I just I feel like so I tried to get five and it's so hard to get like in corner to get a lot of people together. So for showed up and so I'd like to try to do like five. Yeah. And I did my first double badge in that as well. I don't I'm just not physically built for double anal.

00:53:31:17 - 00:53:46:19

Shay

I did a DP and I did double badge. Okay. But I'd like to add a guy and do I think five? I think six is where I'd cap out, but I don't at five because I feel like four was fun and but I think I could do five. Yeah. Yeah. So that's something.

00:53:47:00 - 00:53:58:03

Luna

Do you have them. Is it more like I mean obviously if there is a double penetration situation that's kind of implied, but like do you prefer taking turns like are you doing things with all of them all the time. Like, and have you have like.

00:53:58:03 - 00:54:19:18

Shay

Would you have like then I stress before I did it, I was like nervous. And I'm like, you know, I do this and make sure everyone's good. But really what happens in a gangbang is not everybody can stay rock hard 100% of the time, and you just had to have really good guys that know that when they're not like solid, solid, solid, they just step out.

00:54:19:22 - 00:54:41:19

Shay

They jerk off a little bit. And so like, it's like this dance. And I mean, it was just really fucking cool. Yeah. Oh yeah. So I would say like what I want to do is some more it like I do a lot of that like, like the mommy stuff now. And I actually just recently reached out to my agent and I'm like, give me some more, like hardcore oldschool shaking.

00:54:41:21 - 00:54:58:03

Shay

I don't care if they're milky. It's too hard to do them when you're doing mommy talk because like, you know, I mean, maybe you could do it, but I'm like, I want to do, I don't know, not with everyone. Like, I don't want everyone to try to choke me because some people just aren't good at it and it doesn't play.

00:54:58:17 - 00:55:18:12

Shay

And I'm just like, don't do that. But like, I want some, like, amazing old, like, you know, just like, really into. We've got a break in and I have some scenes coming up and let me into that are going to be amazing that I can't talk about yet, but, that are going to be really intense that I'm super excited about.

00:55:18:14 - 00:55:43:20

Shay

And then I want to do like I want to ramp it up. I want to do some like, fuck yeah. Like, you know more of that because I my life is pretty chill and zen and I'm pretty level. And like, I love getting given the opportunity to let the devil lines pop up and like, also know that, like, people are going to watch it and I'm going to entertain people and like, I don't know, I say like, go find shake.

00:55:43:20 - 00:55:46:23

Shay

You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

00:55:47:00 - 00:55:59:20

Luna

I love that. It sounds like you've done a mixture of stuff on set and in different locations. Are there any locations you've loved or locations that you would like to do? I mean, it sounds like you have a cool private beach available to you.

00:55:59:21 - 00:56:20:14

Shay

Just. Yeah, my beach in Mexico. I've got this really cool idea for this. Like I've got so many storylines like production wise because it's a jungle there too. I just there's so many cool things to do down there. But, I got a fake plane. I've got a boat. I don't know, like, doing something really cool on my property in Mexico.

00:56:21:07 - 00:56:33:06

Shay

And then I also have this condo and fixing up down there, too. And it has this big roof deck overlooking the ocean. So that's some place I want to shoot to.

00:56:33:07 - 00:56:49:00

Luna

That's awesome. That's such a good mixture of, like, private, but outside. I mean, I'm going to guess that you are like me in that, like outside sex. Is that yummy for your animal body? Like, is that something that if the location is correct, like, do you like being in the sun in LA?

00:56:49:02 - 00:56:51:01

Shay

Yeah. As long as I don't get sand in my holes.

00:56:51:01 - 00:56:53:16

Luna

Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Assuming that everybody.

00:56:53:16 - 00:57:13:12

Shay

Thinks sex is so amazing and I'm like, yeah, it's really fucking hard to not get sand in your holes. So I've just discovered, like I really like sand piled blankets. But any of those like Turkish, like the sand club beach towels, if you have the big blankets and you just, like, try to stay in the middle of them.

00:57:13:14 - 00:57:14:18

Shay

Yeah.

00:57:14:20 - 00:57:36:15

Luna

I learned that the hard way. The second time I ever had sex, it was like naked on a beach after skinny dipping. And it was a bad situation. I was like, oh well, young me okay. In general, what do you think we, the collective need to co-create a sexier, more loving world we talked about communication is there anything else?

00:57:36:17 - 00:57:58:14

Shay

I'm just I'm I answered that questions always unconditional love. Like what's your judgment? And even me like I came, you know from like all from even where porn has gone back in the day to now. I really love that. Regardless of what your preferences are, what you want to shoot, like, I know the people that were doing what they called back then.

00:57:58:14 - 00:58:27:10

Shay

Crossover porn was really shunned. And now I go to set and like, you know, everyone's doing trans and different. You know, there's so much more acceptance. And I think that it was a lot more cliquey. But there's really cool things of porn back in the day. But it was also very judgy. And, I don't know, I just I think it's always unconditional of, I think not judging, you know, and just being open.

00:58:27:10 - 00:58:38:10

Shay

And if it's not your jam, then saying neutral with it from a loving place and going well, but if it makes you happy, that's great, right?

00:58:38:12 - 00:58:41:16

Luna

Yeah. How do you like to spread ripples of love?

00:58:42:02 - 00:59:18:02

Shay

Random acts of kindness. Loving kindness. Golden rule. I'm such a big, like, golden roll person, and I feel like things are gotten so fast in the universe that, like, I feel like if you even have a thought that's even slightly negative, it's just like such an instant manifestation for me. So I started noticing something about a year ago and, I just, I think that things are moving really quickly, and I think that I've just noticed karmically, like the second I do anything that's not in alignment with just really feeling, you know, love throughout my body, whether, you know what I mean.

00:59:18:02 - 00:59:36:09

Shay

It's just like I instantly get pushed back somewhere like, I'll, you know, if I have a thought that's kind of like, about somebody else. It's like a literally, like, drops that thing on my toe or bang my head and and it's fast down. I'm like, okay. And I try to really, really pay attention to that. So yeah, I don't know.

00:59:36:09 - 00:59:41:08

Shay

I spread ripples of love by just trying to trying to be an example.

00:59:41:13 - 00:59:57:15

Luna

I feel the way that you have shown up in your being, the way that you speak, the way the frame through which you do not have judgment. You're like, explain the shame meter. I think that that is huge for me. Feeling into your example. So. Oh thank you. Yeah, yeah.

00:59:57:17 - 00:59:59:04

Shay

Reflect each other right.

00:59:59:06 - 01:00:04:09

Luna

Absolutely. So thank you for coming here to help us spread ripples of love today.

01:00:04:11 - 01:00:08:09

Shay

Oh my God, I love that so much. Yeah.

01:00:08:17 - 01:00:19:00

Luna

And love that you can find Shay on the internet at Shay sites.com and links to X, TikTok, Insta and only fans are in the description below. Thank you so much for being a guest today.