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32 heteroflexible multicultural female, she/her pronouns, single, elite companion, Las Vegas-based legal courtesan, into: meeting new people, deep conversations, spending time with partners, initiating the inexperienced, playing with lady friends, role play, and creating safe spaces for partners

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Luna

Our guest today is a 32 year old, straight ish, hetero flexible female of international origins who loves getting to know new people. Conversation. Delving into the psychology, emotional and even spiritual depths of human connection. Spending a lot of time with partners. Initiating the inexperienced. Playing with her lady friends. Role play with recent experiences, including multiple rounds of being a mermaid.

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Luna

She is a real life siren and creating safe spaces full of acceptance that support the self-discovery, independence, confidence, and overall well-being of her partners. An elite courtesan who travels to Sheri's Ranch, a legal brothel just outside Las Vegas a few times a year from across the world. Welcome, Kehlani.

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Kaylani

Hey, I'm so happy to be here.

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Luna

I am so excited to introduce you to my sweet, sweet audience. Everyone, you're in for a treat. I happen to know Kehlani just a little bit. And, sweet friend, could you please start out by telling us if you had to rate yourself on a sexual shame meter today, right now, with ten being so full of shame and zero being like, I don't know what you're talking about.

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Luna

Where do you fall at this moment?

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Kaylani

I would say zero. I don't know what you're talking about because I know the value that I bring to the table. So I feel like society has so many outdated beliefs about intimacy, but those who truly know me and understand how much intention I bring. And with everything I do, and I feel like honestly, this is about power, confidence, control, even in my own kind of way.

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Kaylani

So yeah, absolutely no shame.

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Luna

I fucking love that. Were you always a zero or is that something that you had to, like, become over the years? And how did you do it?

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Kaylani

Wow, really good question.

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Kaylani

Definitely not always a zero starting, actually. I would say it is higher up, maybe possibly closer to ten. And it took some time for me to really feel comfortable with this. And I think what made me realize is that, you know, everybody has different opinions and you can be Mother Teresa and people.

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Kaylani

Will still hate you.

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Kaylani

And who cares what other people think? You know, I know what I do. I know the thoughts behind my actions. I'm with myself every single day. I'm in my mind every single day, 100% of the time. And I know that I'm not harming anybody, that I don't have any malicious intentions behind anything that I do. And I feel like as long as it's two adults, agreeing to something, then so be it.

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Kaylani

Like, who cares what other people think, you know? And I truly do believe that this type of work, you know, we have therapies for our physical health, right? We have therapists for our mental health. And this is pretty much like we're therapies for intimacy. So why does society see it as a bad thing? I know that I help people, I know the value that I bring and I'm proud of that.

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Kaylani

So yes, it's taking some time, but now I definitely feel good in my skin. I've learned so much about myself as well. This has been a great, you know, self-growth journey. And I've been able to do so many things. I'm so grateful for this job. I am so grateful. Like my life has changed for the better in so many ways.

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Kaylani

And yeah, it took a while to get here, but. But I am here. So went from the spectrum of.

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Kaylani

Ten all the way to zero, baby.

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Luna

Dude, congratulations. So is there anything that you feel comfy talking about shame wise? Like going from a ten to a zero is huge. Did that take place before you entered this work? Like tell us a little bit about your work, what you do and your origin story. Like how did you get there especially, you know, becoming a courtesan after starting out with a tan on the shame of like, tell us a little bit about that unfolding for you.

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Kaylani

So throughout my life, I actually personally never saw anything wrong with sex work. I was always curious about it, but I think the shame came from more of society rather than within. Because growing up in a very conservative country where women would have to cover their shoulders and cover their knees, being sexually open was taboo and, and frowned upon.

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Kaylani

And that was kind of my surrounding at the time. But I was always curious about it. Like I said, I never thought that personally. I never thought that that there was anything wrong with it. And then I came into this line of work out of curiosity. But also out of financial needs, unfortunately, at first. And so that's, I think, where where the shame was I actually didn't really tell anybody about this job for a while, and it was kind of eating me up inside and, and I was feeling really isolated.

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Kaylani

So, you know, I was at like the very bottom of.

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Kaylani

The bottom, I think.

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Kaylani

But then I started working with a therapist who, I'm still working with today. We meet weekly, and she's really, really helped change my mindset. But I think also just being immersed and over time with the clients that I get and receiving the feedback and also all the experiences that I had, I started to realize that this job is really empowering, like I am in control of everything that I want to do.

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Kaylani

I'm able to travel as much as I want. I'm able to make my own schedule. I am able to take care of, you know, family members that are in need. I just feel so independent and so good. Now and like I said, my life is completely changed. I've been able to.

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Kaylani

Do.

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Kaylani

So many things that I wouldn't have been able to do without this job. But yeah, that definitely took some time. And I think it just came through experience, actually, and being more immersed, in the community, because before I got into sex work, I actually didn't really know any sex workers, you know? So, I just kind of thought about it.

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Kaylani

But then when I started at Sheri's, you know, I was exposed to so many different beautiful women and I feel like society has this view on sex workers that, you know, we're either.

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Kaylani

Drug addicts or like, daddy issues or mental.

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Kaylani

Illness or like, whatever, all of these things. And when I came to this place, you know, I see so many smart women that are, you know, some of, you know, in the medical field or in other fields where you would never really think that they would do something like this. But then I started thinking, you know what? This is actually pretty like business savvy.

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Kaylani

You know, we can we're in control of ourselves. And on top of that, like, as long as we're managing our money properly, I feel like this is a great stepping stone into wealth and kind of a little life hack. So yeah, my mind has changed a lot. But definitely I think through experiencing because I think all the, the shame came from from the outside of what I thought, like society thought and things like that.

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Kaylani

Yeah. Being here, I'm surrounded by so many people that are so open to it that respect, that and that helped as well.

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Kaylani

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Luna

I love that so much. It is so funny to observe that there are these narratives of daddy issues, addiction and mental health disorder. It's like yes. And that's true literally in every profession or in people who don't work or in people who, you know, are really successful in all sorts of fields. And so I love you. Bring that up.

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Luna

And I love hearing that community is part of what dissolved your shape. Immuta and I, I've been thinking a lot more lately about community because I get an inordinate number of emails from people who are experiencing deep, deep loneliness, you know, and what I hear in your sharing is that your work is actually deeply full of, like, really satisfying connection on a number of levels, you know, and I obviously, I know so many of the same ladies that you do.

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Luna

And, that's so fucking fun and cool. And so I can't help but hear in your answer that it's almost like there was this duality, I don't know, like a shame duality where it's like, you're a ten, you're a zero, and then the ten starts to crumble away until it's all a zero. Does that feel accurate to your experience?

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Luna

Like, because it sounds like there were still moments of both. And did you go into the work with still like a higher ceiling of Shame on me. So how did you get the independent? Like, it really sounds like there's this core piece of you that always knew that physical intimacy and connection is, like, really special, even though all of the external messages you were getting were kind of opposite that, like, how the fuck did that live in?

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Kaylani

Like what? How how?

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Luna

That's magic.

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Kaylani

Like I said, this has been a journey of self-discovery and learning more about myself as well. You know, and I think another thing was before I cared a lot about what other people thought, maybe from a place of, I don't know, seeking validation or maybe from, like, not not being confident or insecure or whatever those reasons were.

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Kaylani

I cared a lot about what other people thought and now I don't really care.

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Kaylani

What other people think of.

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Kaylani

And now it's I think that's why because, like, truly at my core, I don't see anything wrong with it. And, when the shame was there, it was because I cared so much about society and what people thought of me. But now that I'm comfortable within my own skin, I realize, like, I don't care. You know, if you can think whatever you want about me, I know I'm a good person, and if you don't agree with that, then you're not for me.

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Kaylani

You know, there's so many other people in the world and everybody can, you know, just accept people as they are and place them where they belong. Like, if you don't want to accept me, then you're not for me.

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Kaylani

And that's it. Like.

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Kaylani

I'm just going to move on then.

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Luna

Oh, I fucking love that. Okay. It seems a little bit already self-evident in your speech. However, I would like you to focus now and tell us, how do you think that your work helps people spread love and or will themselves and or each other? Like how do how do you see your work in the world doing that?

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Kaylani

So I think the first thing would be, you know, feeling comfortable within your own skin is knowing who you are, and having that safe space to express yourself. So a lot of times, I think, you know, in society people feel like they're going to be judged so they can't express themselves or it's like, oh, this is how you're supposed to be here or.

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Luna

Or they are literally they are literally being judged in many cases. And you are totally right, because people not only get worried about getting judged, they really do get judged. Like I was at the spa yesterday overhearing this group of women, and it was so funny because it was a big group like maybe seven ladies and two of them were out there and they're like, blah blah blah.

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Luna

My sexy escapades and I like, wanted to be like, do you guys want to be a guest so bad? But it would have been creepy, so I didn't. I just watched creepily from the corner and one of them saw me watching and I was like, yeah, I'm watching because two of them were like sharing sexy stories with the group and being like.

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Kaylani

Oh, I'm wild and crazy. And now we're exclusive.

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Luna

And the other ladies are like, oh, we're boring and married. And as soon as the fun ones left, the boring married ones started.

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Kaylani

Talking shit, like straight up. And I was like, oh.

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Luna

You know, so, like, their friends didn't know, but I was like.

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Kaylani

Yeah.

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Luna

I'm like, some people are so dreadful. So, okay, sorry not to derail that. So yes, you're right, safe spaces are super important. Go on.

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Kaylani

So I feel like I do create that safe space because I would say that I'm, extremely non-judgmental. I like to, you know, I don't care what background you are, what race you are. What whatever your culture, traditions, whatever. I think we all have two eyes, one nose, one mouth and one heart. You know, we're all human.

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Kaylani

And our upbringing and our cultures and they do shape us. But I didn't grow up with everybody, you know. So maybe I don't understand your perspective, and that's okay. I'm not here to judge, but I feel like everybody needs somebody that is just letting them be themselves. And once you let people express themselves and accept them and don't judge them, then they feel safe enough to really surrender and be vulnerable.

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Kaylani

And I feel like that's where the true intimacy comes in. Also, with the confidence and feeling, you know, helping yourself and feeling better that way. Because if you don't know what you truly want, then then you're going to kind of be confused all the time, you know? So, yeah, I feel like people coming here, I, I get a lot of, clients telling me that I make them feel extremely comfortable, that they usually come here like, you know, sometimes really scared, shaking, nervous, sweating.

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Kaylani

But when they leave, they're like, wow. Like, you know, you're the only person that just made me feel like I can talk about, like, my fantasies. And you're not like that.

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Kaylani

That's weird or.

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Kaylani

Whatever, because, you know, everybody has their own little, little fantasies and stuff like that. And like I said, who am I to judge? I wasn't in your situation growing up or I don't know, I you know, your reality shapes your perception. And so, yeah, I didn't have the same reality as everybody else. So I'm just here to make you feel comfortable and.

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Kaylani

Yeah, yeah.

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Luna

Also, I fucking love hearing other people's fantasies. It is very funny to me that, like, I attract largely pretty, like sensual vanilla people, which like, I am very sensual, but like, I'm like, tell me the weird stuff. And they're like, oh, well, you know, I'd like a blowjob. And I'm like, great.

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Kaylani

I'm good.

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Luna

At that. Okay.

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Kaylani

Well, like.

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Luna

Do you feel like people open up to you about, like, interesting fantasies a lot? And do you do anything specific to kind of invite that people do?

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Kaylani

I mean, I ask, I say, you know, are there any fantasies that that you have that you want, you know, to be fulfilled, that maybe, you know, you haven't told anybody? And I always let them know, like, this is a safe space, like no judgment. And I also think that they could tell probably by my behavior in my demeanor that I'm not lying, that it's coming, like authentically and genuinely.

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Kaylani

So I would say, you know, one fun fantasy that I seem.

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Kaylani

To keep getting, which is I didn't it seems to be like a fetish, but.

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Kaylani

I like.

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Kaylani

Mermaid roleplay. And it's so much fun that those details like, how do you be a mermaid?

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Luna

Do you wear stuff? Are you in a bathtub or the water? Or like what? And what kinds of mermaid things do you do? And like Kehlani is not on screen, but can I describe your beauty?

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Kaylani

Yes. Go ahead.

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Luna

Kehlani has beautiful mermaid curves and a jawline and makes you want to trace it with your finger. She has long mermaid hair and just, like, really beautiful. Very. Can I say that? I've touched it. Soft skin.

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Kaylani

Yeah. Yes. Yeah, yeah.

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Luna

And, And just like, lovely full lips and eyes that you can disappear into. So I can see why people might like, choose you for, for mermaid like, very definitely very mermaid curves. But do you wear a tail. Where do you go. Like tell us specific.

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Kaylani

Do I wear daily? Absolutely. No, of course I wear a tail. So, I've had this party a couple.

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Kaylani

Times, so it's been it's been different both times.

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Luna

The different people or same people?

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Kaylani

Different people. Yeah. That's why I'm saying it. It seems to be lovely.

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Kaylani

And I don't advertise like that. This is what I do. But I seem to attract it.

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Kaylani

So I love that. And it's my mermaid, lover magnet.

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Kaylani

Anything that is new to me that I haven't done. I'm a very curious person. So if somebody wants to explore something that is unique, I'm all about it. I'm like.

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Kaylani

I want to do it too. Like, I want to experience this, like I'm totally in for it. So the first time.

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Kaylani

Was he got me to outfit the mermaid outfit, and he wanted me to reenact a scene from The Little Mermaid. And so I like, memorized like the whole scene. And, pretty much had to act that out like the damsel in distress and everything like that. No, I didn't get into the water, but.

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Kaylani

I was just doing this like, the best time.

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Kaylani

Me up and like, yeah, just more like role playing. I didn't actually get into the swimming pool. That would be really fun.

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Kaylani

If I.

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Luna

Save up, maybe for the.

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Kaylani

Next one. Yeah, maybe for the next one. Okay. Lottie the mermaid. And.

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Kaylani

Yeah, I had another one recently, and, that was a lot of fun too. And that was also, you know, I wore the outfit and then we actually had some fun in my, in.

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Kaylani

My mermaid.

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Kaylani

Outfit, because I guess his is, his fantasy was, he was a virgin, which is another one of my specialties as well. I love.

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Kaylani

It.

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Kaylani

But he, I guess, always wanted to lose his virginity to a mermaid.

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Kaylani

So if that's so cool. Oh, my.

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Luna

God, that's so got, like, literal, literal siren's call. You're like, hello? Okay. Whoa.

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Kaylani

Oh, yes. I was like, I can definitely do that for you. Like, this is so good, logistically.

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Luna

So sorry. Tell me if this is too specific of it.

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Kaylani

You know, it's totally fine. But, like, logistically.

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Luna

How did it work? Like it was? How did was there a whole, like, could you fuck through a tale like, how do you how do you make it happen?

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Kaylani

So we had like there wasn't a whole lot we had to, like, actually like pull down the link down a little bit, but I still kept the tail on, so, Oh my God. And then, yeah, a few different positions where the tail was still intact, but, you know, the whole had.

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Kaylani

To be available.

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Kaylani

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was to be totally into that.

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Kaylani

And then I had, you know, like flop my day in character flapping the the tail.

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Kaylani

Wow.

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Luna

That's so cool. Also like a challenge. Like a physical challenge because it limits your mobility. And that's kind of like a figure.

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Kaylani

Yeah.

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Luna

I've done a lot of, like, statue role play where I'm like, fuck me alive. Or like, in one case, I was a robot, not a statue, but same concept because that's like, you know, sci fi, etc.. And I love that, but it's like there's something very, very hard about having just, you know, within reason, an agreed upon restriction of movement.

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Luna

That's so cool. I love that you make people feel so comfortable to open up in that way and to explore things. Have you had the opportunity to, like, witness, you know, your client lovers throughout the years who and see the changes in their lives? Like, how does I know that when I had a lover who held space for me to gain my own sexual confidence, my whole life changed.

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Luna

And so now I love to hold space for my lovers, to then go and build their confidence. Because I see the ripple, the literal ripple effect. Like, are you noticing that in the people that you continue to see as well?

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Kaylani

Yes, absolutely. I do have one example. Like I love virgins. And so I had one come in and obviously, you know, he lost his virginity to me. And then about a year later, he, he came back and he was telling me how after that happened, like, I completely changed his life because he was feeling like, so, I guess, shamed or insecure or or about being a virgin.

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Kaylani

And then like, after he lost his virginity and and how I made him feel afterwards.

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Kaylani

I mean, he was like, you know, he definitely knew what he was doing. And I was you, you know, virgin. And I wasn't just saying that like, yeah.

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Kaylani

And then I guess after that he was like, wow. Like, you know, now that I feel.

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Kaylani

Experienced and I know what I'm.

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Kaylani

Doing, I'm like out there and yeah, feeling good about myself. And I felt really good too, that I could do that to somebody, you know. And it's, it's sometimes you just gotta make people see what you see in them or see, you know, sometimes people don't see things that other people see in themselves. And if you just amplify that, a little bit, make them believe in themselves.

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Kaylani

Like, show them the beautiful sides, you know, cause sometimes we self-sabotage so much in our own heads. And we don't know, like the beauty and the amazing things that we bring to the world. And if somebody just tells you that and shows you like, hey, like, stop focusing on the little things like focus on like the positive things and like change your mindset a little bit, then I think that that helps.

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Kaylani

And that's one thing that I really love about this job as well, is making people feel good about themselves. And yeah, like, it's really nice.

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Luna

I freaking love that so much. What do you love the most about doing this work?

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Kaylani

Oh my God, there's so many things, but I would say.

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Kaylani

That the number one thing is connecting with different types of people. I am a very curious person as it is, and I'm I'm not in this. Like I realized over time I was like, oh my God. Like, I think I was.

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Kaylani

Like, born to do this. Definitely get it. Oh wait.

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Luna

What made you think that though?

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Kaylani

Because I.

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Kaylani

Love connecting with people like I genuinely care.

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Kaylani

Like the.

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Kaylani

Clients I come in, like I genuinely care about them and love connecting with them. I'm such a curious person. I think also with like psychology as well. And, and I wonder, you know, why people come here. There's so many different types of people like you can get, you know, all different types of people from, from like the, the curious, you know, let me take it off my bucket list to like the, the virgins, to the people that are here just trying to fill out a fantasy to the people that are, you know, just curious, what is, you know, what is the brothel like to the couples that want to experiment, to, you know, the

00:20:25:04 - 00:20:35:03

Kaylani

women that want to be with the woman but like, haven't had the opportunity to, you know, the married man. You know, we get a lot of those as well into like, the older men that just.

00:20:35:03 - 00:20:36:07

Kaylani

Haven't had intimacy.

00:20:36:07 - 00:20:37:05

Kaylani

In a while. We get a.

00:20:37:11 - 00:20:40:12

Kaylani

Divorce. And so yeah.

00:20:40:14 - 00:21:02:10

Kaylani

And on top of that, it's also like different professions of people come here as well, you know, and I think it's really interesting to see, like a man who, let's say, might be like a CEO in, in his real life, you know, this powerful guy. But then when he comes here, there's a part of him that I'm able to see, like, I think nobody else does see, because in the real world, he's.

00:21:02:10 - 00:21:04:17

Kaylani

You know, so powerful and confident.

00:21:04:17 - 00:21:07:06

Kaylani

But then he comes here and he sees a beautiful woman, and.

00:21:07:09 - 00:21:11:05

Kaylani

He just start shaking and he doesn't start sweating. And it's like.

00:21:11:07 - 00:21:29:20

Kaylani

You really see that everybody is truly human. And you get people in this space, like in their most vulnerable space, where I think this is one of those jobs where not a lot of people have access to anybody in this kind of space, you know, and I love that. I can see people in there like true form and in their core.

00:21:29:20 - 00:21:49:08

Kaylani

And I love, like learning about people and I just people in general. Why are you here? I mean, you don't have to tell me whatever they want to share with me. They usually they do much. They are here, why they're here. And most of the time it's I mean, I would say it's not just for sex, you know, like you do get the people that come in, they're.

00:21:49:08 - 00:21:50:10

Kaylani

Like, oh, I just want to fuck.

00:21:50:10 - 00:22:14:02

Kaylani

But others mainly come in for like, intimacy and wanting to feel close. And I've learned so much about relationships being here as well. And what makes you know, because I would say a lot of the men that do come in here are married, but they are coming here because they don't necessarily want to develop an emotional connection with another woman.

00:22:14:04 - 00:22:33:00

Kaylani

They are just lacking the intimacy from their wife. But they love their wife very much, you know, and and there might be something just just missing there. And so it's interesting to see the dynamic of like somebody being so in love with somebody, but like needing that, that physical intimacy, like as humans, I think we're always going to need that.

00:22:33:00 - 00:23:03:20

Kaylani

And yeah, it's interesting, interesting to see that if you don't like provide that then people might stray. It doesn't mean that they don't love you, but like, you know, so that's that was an interesting dynamic. It's change thing. You know, all these people come in. It's changed my views on relationships as well and how I see relationships. So it's, I think I love, like, the psychology, like just just meeting different just connecting with different types of people and understanding different types of people is what I love about it the most.

00:23:03:22 - 00:23:22:17

Luna

I love the fullness of that answer so much, and I connect with it so hard. Like you, I am so curious, like whether I'm here talking to a person on this podcast or like taking pictures of someone. Like, I feel like I have the, you know, the visual voyeur part of that curiosity as a photographer and like what you said about just being or.

00:23:22:18 - 00:23:46:05

Luna

Yeah, or whether I'm with a lover in person and figuring out the tender parts and having that kind of like private space that's just for us to safely be ourselves together as we are in that moment. And I think that, like, there is like such a beauty in that intimacy that you create for people. And it goes back to what you were saying about just that authenticity and the power of being witnessed.

00:23:46:06 - 00:23:57:23

Luna

I'm curious, did you have a partner that, like, created that for you? Like how did you learn how to create this for other people? Because it sounds like you're really masterful at doing it.

00:23:58:01 - 00:23:59:09

Kaylani

Wow.

00:23:59:11 - 00:24:20:22

Kaylani

So I think so. I've had some pretty toxic relationships, in like the early stages of my life. And I think those were a little bit traumatizing. And over time, I would go, I would date different types of partners because I always thought that the reason why the relationship was unhealthy was because of the other with the partner.

00:24:20:22 - 00:24:37:02

Kaylani

And so I would switch to the type of men that I would date because I would think, you know, it was that type. But then over the years, my I haven't been in a relationship in like three years, but in the past, like my last relationship, it made me realize that it's not, actually the partner, it's me.

00:24:37:04 - 00:24:40:02

Kaylani

Like, there's a pattern in it, it's partner. And it's.

00:24:40:02 - 00:24:47:11

Luna

Both. It's both. It's you and them doing the pattern. Opposites sides together or whatever, you know, like integrating fully feel that.

00:24:47:13 - 00:24:48:07

Kaylani

Right. But then I.

00:24:48:07 - 00:25:07:06

Kaylani

Realized that like, oh, wow, there's so much work that I need to do within myself before I can, like, have, a healthy relationship because, you know, people say you have to love yourself before you love others and things like that. And so I have been focusing on, like doing the work within with myself. And I think that's what I realized.

00:25:07:06 - 00:25:10:17

Kaylani

And now the reason why I'm not in a relationship now is because my standards.

00:25:10:17 - 00:25:14:08

Kaylani

Are high and I'm like, I'm not going to.

00:25:14:13 - 00:25:25:23

Kaylani

You know, let like, I know what I want now, and I love myself and I'm happy with being alone, actually. So until and until I enjoy somebody's company more than I enjoy my own company.

00:25:26:00 - 00:25:27:18

Kaylani

Yeah. Then then maybe.

00:25:27:18 - 00:25:28:19

Kaylani

But also.

00:25:28:19 - 00:25:30:07

Kaylani

Yeah,

00:25:30:09 - 00:25:48:10

Kaylani

I think I realized through being in toxic relationships what doesn't work and how, like, what not to do. Right. And then and then working on myself and doing different things to work on myself and feeling good about myself. Now, the relationships, the friendships that I do have and like the other close relationships that I have, I nurture them very well.

00:25:48:10 - 00:26:18:02

Kaylani

And I see these things and I think also being exposed to different people and hearing their relationship stories, I've been able to kind of piece together what works and what doesn't and, what makes a successful relationship. And I think the, the number one thing with that is communication. Yeah. I think it starts with just being able to be open and expressing yourself and saying what you want and what you need, but you know, that comes from having people don't communicate honestly if you don't give them a safe space.

00:26:18:04 - 00:26:27:00

Kaylani

And so yeah, that's why I think I've realized all of that. And so that's how I'm able to to give it because I feel like, you.

00:26:27:00 - 00:26:29:01

Kaylani

Know, started from the bottom. Now I'm here.

00:26:29:03 - 00:26:55:20

Luna

Totally. Yeah. You've gone through the gantlet, including the shame ometer and the communication on Twitter and all of it. And like, I mean, and that's such a good point, right? Like, it's one thing for me to develop the emotional awareness, the willingness to look at all of my patterns and then to try to put that into words and then to be willing to share it with another person, which can be very vulnerable in any context, and choosing a partner who is willing to receive and participate in that practice, like that's that's all of it.

00:26:55:20 - 00:27:19:21

Luna

And then I think that's one of the coolest things about the the learning containers that sex work can be across any medium, right? Whether it's like online chatting or in-person work or any other sort of it is it's sort of like a framework where there's at least the opportunity to create deeper intimacy and practice those relational skills. There's also, you know, addictive and associative ways to use pretty much anything in this whole wide world.

00:27:19:21 - 00:27:37:20

Luna

But I think that it sounds like you're doing the highest level of that work on all fronts, and I would love to hear it. Okay, you said you grew up in a conservative country. Did you get a sex ed or sex talk or anything like that? Or like how did you yourself, was it all through trial and error that you learned about sex and relationships?

00:27:37:22 - 00:27:59:00

Kaylani

So I moved around a lot. So like, like I went from the US to like a conservative country and Asia and back and forth between the two. It would be like three years here, three years there, a couple years here, a couple years there are back and forth between the two. And so it was like very confusing because like in Vegas, you know, it's like the sex capital of the US.

00:27:59:00 - 00:28:03:20

Kaylani

I'm a big, it's just out there, you know, it's like boom.

00:28:03:20 - 00:28:05:10

Kaylani

Like it's everywhere.

00:28:05:10 - 00:28:08:03

Kaylani

And then where I grew up, it wasn't. And then also being.

00:28:08:06 - 00:28:08:13

Kaylani

So I.

00:28:08:13 - 00:28:24:16

Kaylani

Was like being exposed to it and then like seeing the other side like back and forth so many times. So I think like, I got sex ed when I was in the States, like, yeah. But at my, when I was, back in, in where the other country.

00:28:24:18 - 00:28:25:13

Kaylani

00:28:25:15 - 00:28:27:06

Kaylani

Yeah, it was, I don't even.

00:28:27:06 - 00:28:29:04

Kaylani

Know if there was sex, and I think there.

00:28:29:04 - 00:28:30:20

Kaylani

Was, because I went to an American.

00:28:30:20 - 00:28:34:00

Kaylani

School, but yeah.

00:28:34:01 - 00:28:40:08

Kaylani

Like, I don't remember taking sex ed there. So how did I get exposed? I think it was just like in my surroundings, like, you know.

00:28:40:09 - 00:28:51:18

Kaylani

Like seeing it in Vegas and stuff like that. Yeah. And I was always kind of just like a very like, I don't know, not like a this might sound a little weird, but I think it was just, I don't know.

00:28:51:20 - 00:28:56:06

Kaylani

Where this like how this came from, but I think I've always kind of just.

00:28:56:08 - 00:28:58:12

Kaylani

I don't know, like, it's hard to explain.

00:28:58:12 - 00:28:59:22

Kaylani

But I, I've always been like, pretty.

00:28:59:22 - 00:29:12:07

Kaylani

Boy crazy from like, a young age. I don't know, like where it came from. I think, like, just naturally it was just there and or knowing it was just in me, you know, like I said, I was born to do this.

00:29:12:09 - 00:29:14:12

Luna

So I do. I get it, I totally get it.

00:29:14:13 - 00:29:17:22

Kaylani

Yeah. Okay. Oh, okay.

00:29:18:00 - 00:29:29:12

Luna

Do you feel like you had an adult you could ask sex questions to, or were you really just, like, in your zone, like Vegas and across the world? Like how how did the or friends even to talk to you?

00:29:29:14 - 00:29:44:15

Kaylani

No, I didn't really have any adults to talk to. I would say that like my parents never, like, had these conversations with me or told me any of these things, but they are. My parents are like, you know, they actually are pretty open minded with all of this stuff. So it didn't come from like.

00:29:44:15 - 00:29:45:16

Kaylani

Home, but the.

00:29:45:16 - 00:29:55:04

Kaylani

We never really talked about it. And I think like in my teenage years, all my friends and I were like quite promiscuous and.

00:29:55:06 - 00:29:57:05

Kaylani

So I could talk to it about my friends.

00:29:57:05 - 00:30:09:22

Kaylani

But like, an adult, I don't think, like growing up there was an adult that made me feel comfortable enough to to talk about these things or like, kind of guided me through it. It kind of just. Yeah I don't. Yeah.

00:30:10:00 - 00:30:11:16

Kaylani

Yeah. Yeah.

00:30:11:18 - 00:30:31:20

Luna

Man. Okay. I would love to hear just some of your favorite things about sex and or the work that you've experienced. So we heard a little bit about mermaid thing. We kind of got used a little bit about like you know, two girls and virgins and other things that you've experienced, but like, what are the things that just light you up?

00:30:31:22 - 00:30:33:00

Kaylani

Well, speaking of two.

00:30:33:00 - 00:30:43:10

Kaylani

Girls, that's one thing that I find really fun here as well, because I like one of my fantasies, my one of my like, I've had this fantasy for a long time, and now it's already.

00:30:43:10 - 00:30:46:22

Kaylani

It's already happened. So. Yes. So it happened to hear. But, like.

00:30:46:22 - 00:31:09:12

Kaylani

I think even, you know, when I even started watching porn, I would only watch lesbian porn. Like, that's the only thing that I'm interested in, even though that, like, I'm straight or like, you know, I love playing with women. I think women are so sexy. They really turn me on, love their bodies. But when it's, like, romantically, I've tried going on like a dates with women, but for some reason it doesn't click like that, and that's totally fine.

00:31:09:14 - 00:31:24:05

Kaylani

But yeah, women definitely turn me on sexually. And like I said, I only watch lesbian porn. And I had this fantasy to like, for the longest time to have, like, my own, like, lesbian porn. And.

00:31:24:07 - 00:31:32:03

Kaylani

Yes. And I actually fulfilled that fantasy here, like my own little private lesbian porn. But but that.

00:31:32:03 - 00:31:55:13

Kaylani

Was really fun. And then also, yeah, being able to have fun with girls, you know, in that kind of way and not have them and knowing that it's not going to turn romantic. Because I think in like, I don't know, in that in the outside, in the, in the real world, outside world, like, maybe I wouldn't want to lead a woman on by, like, doing certain things and, and them not be on the same wavelength as me.

00:31:55:15 - 00:32:06:20

Kaylani

But here, at least I know that. Okay, you know, this is all fun. And, like, nobody's going to fall in love with each other. And I've been able to have. Yeah, a lot of fun experiences where.

00:32:06:20 - 00:32:13:17

Kaylani

The woman, you know, this you we've had together. Yeah. I was going to say.

00:32:13:17 - 00:32:17:14

Luna

I when I, when I saw in your thing that you wrote straight, I was like.

00:32:17:16 - 00:32:29:04

Kaylani

Really? It's was like based on our experience. Okay. Yes. Yeah. So hetero flexible as well. Yeah. So I guess maybe.

00:32:29:04 - 00:32:31:03

Kaylani

That's a better way to describe myself.

00:32:31:03 - 00:32:32:03

Kaylani

00:32:32:05 - 00:32:43:07

Kaylani

Yeah. Or maybe. Maybe. Yeah, yeah. So because I think I'll always be sexually attracted to women, like that's always going to be there. And you know what? I don't even know if there's like, I think everybody's kind of a little gay, right?

00:32:43:08 - 00:32:47:17

Kaylani

Like, I think so. Are you like, just like this better?

00:32:47:18 - 00:33:00:17

Luna

Okay. I never want to erase straight people. And I've met many straight people who are like, no, I'm really just straight. And I and I believe their reality and I always have space for the next level of their reality.

00:33:00:17 - 00:33:03:14

Kaylani

To expand because I, I.

00:33:03:16 - 00:33:17:09

Luna

Thought I was straight for a very long time, and I just had some things that had to unlock at their own pace. So, you know, I want to make space for everyone's experience. But I do think that, yes, everyone's got a little streak of queer if they're willing to explore it.

00:33:17:11 - 00:33:24:08

Kaylani

Yeah. You just have to be exposed to it. You just have to like put yourself in the situation and then boom, here it is, dude.

00:33:24:10 - 00:33:34:06

Luna

Yeah. And sometimes it's the right person at the right moment, the right whatever. And there's an unfolding. So who knows. Have you been with multiple ladies at the same time? Like it's not something you're interested in.

00:33:34:08 - 00:33:38:17

Kaylani

That is my other fantasy. I like another.

00:33:38:17 - 00:33:40:07

Kaylani

Fantasy that I have is like a all.

00:33:40:07 - 00:33:49:04

Kaylani

Girl orgy. Like, I would love that. I think I would, too, like, oh my God. Okay, hopefully we can make this happen, but yeah.

00:33:49:04 - 00:33:56:14

Kaylani

I that's just, I don't it turns me on. The most women that I've been with at once unfortunately is just one.

00:33:56:16 - 00:34:02:23

Kaylani

But I'm so, so open to more. Unfortunately, only one survives.

00:34:03:01 - 00:34:19:16

Luna

I recently had my first three ladies total, three ladies, one dude, and that was very, very fun. And also, I'm like, dang it, I need I need more time. I need more practice because there are so many other configurations we could do. But I wasn't really prepared. You know, it was not exactly sprung on me, but it was like more surprising.

00:34:19:16 - 00:34:28:04

Luna

What, so I didn't get to, like, study up on different configurations. And it was, again, fine. It flowed quite naturally, but I'm like, damn, what an opportunity. So, I've started, but.

00:34:28:06 - 00:34:30:20

Kaylani

Yeah, I feel like so much stimulation, even thinking about it.

00:34:30:20 - 00:34:33:00

Kaylani

I'm like, oh my god, like, yeah, yeah.

00:34:33:02 - 00:34:47:16

Luna

Yeah, I love that. Yeah. What else have you experienced that you loved or want more of? Like, I know you like to take time with people and is it like a mixture of touch and talk and. Like what? Like what does going deep with you look like?

00:34:47:18 - 00:35:13:00

Kaylani

So I for me to get turned on, I need to be turned on mentally first. Like intellect and conversation. Like, that's what works for me. So what usually with like, my gf is or like one on one, I really do like to get to know the person and kind of not pick their brand whatever they're comfortable with, but like get to know them on on a level before, before we get intimate because like, that's what that's what turns me on.

00:35:13:01 - 00:35:24:23

Kaylani

With the parties that I get here with, like two girl parties, those, I don't know, I just, like, really sexy to me. I just love, love being around, like, the sexy women. And that just turns me on so much.

00:35:24:23 - 00:35:30:18

Kaylani

And, yeah, thank you to all the clients that I've had that I've booked two girls with me. Thank you so.

00:35:30:18 - 00:35:47:06

Kaylani

Much. It's been great. So, I really love, like, the mental stimulation. I feel like that's like the, the first thing. And with that, I've realized, like, the information that I am getting from clients or exchanging, I've actually learned a lot of things, you know,

00:35:47:08 - 00:35:48:06

Kaylani

One of the.

00:35:48:07 - 00:35:53:05

Kaylani

One of my clients was a financial advisor. And I seriously think, like, he has changed my life.

00:35:53:07 - 00:35:54:12

Kaylani

I think with the tips.

00:35:54:12 - 00:36:14:06

Kaylani

And everything that he shared with me, you know, and so there's so many things that I've learned from the clients coming in here. Like I, you know, I teach a lot of things, but at the same time it's I'm open to, to learn. About many different things. And I think that comes from like a genuine space about, like, really caring about what they have to say and making them feel seen and heard.

00:36:14:06 - 00:36:29:03

Kaylani

And, and sometimes people just want to, you know, share what they know and like this also helps build confidence, you know, and I'm all about listening and opening up my own mind and giving people that space to to share what they're good at and whatever they want to do. So yeah.

00:36:29:05 - 00:36:44:12

Luna

I love that so much. I think it is always so funny when I encounter a dude in particular who's like, oh, I'm so sorry, I'm mansplaining. I'm like, you cannot mansplain me because I'm too busy asking questions. And also, if you tell me something I already know, I will fast forward to you. I'll be like, no, no, no, no, no.

00:36:44:13 - 00:37:08:11

Luna

This is what I'm trying to get at, you know? So I'm really good about that. But I would like to hear also about what you love to teach people about sex and I, you know, and I would love to hear an answer for kind of like how and what you teach people who you are initiating. You know, you mentioned a little bit about virgins, and I would also love to hear just more broadly, what are some of the things that you find yourself helping people understand over and over again?

00:37:08:13 - 00:37:19:02

Kaylani

Well, one thing is that for women, it takes us a while. Like foreplay is super, super important. And I think sometimes men don't get that.

00:37:19:04 - 00:37:22:23

Kaylani

They're just like, oh, okay. You're like, you're just gonna let's just do it.

00:37:23:01 - 00:37:42:18

Kaylani

And that's not how like, our bodies work. Like, women need time. You know, we need a little bit of a tease or a crave to really get the juices flowing. So I always with all my virgins, I always let them know that that, like, hey, take your time with the woman. And every woman is different. And, you know, we there's multiple ways to orgasm.

00:37:42:18 - 00:38:01:04

Kaylani

And so I'll usually go over like, you know, how a woman can orgasm, how to give them an orgasm. In my virgin parties, I'll even let them like, it's more of like a, a lesson tutorial. Okay, I love it. Like, this is how you know you can make a woman come and like, you could practice on me and, like, move your body this way, move your body that way.

00:38:01:06 - 00:38:14:13

Kaylani

And I think that really helps them build confidence as well because they're like, oh okay. I'm not just like coming in and like losing it. Like it's like actually like, oh, like she's helping me, you know? Like where else do you get like a full, like live experience?

00:38:14:15 - 00:38:15:14

Kaylani

Like the best.

00:38:15:14 - 00:38:16:17

Luna

Sex I've ever.

00:38:16:17 - 00:38:19:22

Kaylani

Yeah, yeah. So,

00:38:20:00 - 00:38:46:14

Kaylani

I also. Yeah, also let them know that communication, like, I always like to keep it open and like, make sure that everybody's comfortable. So, like, checking in and then seeing what they want and boundaries like always discussing this as well. But yeah, I think like just I love to when people come in, I, I think I want them to feel good about themselves, but also feel like they know what they're doing.

00:38:46:14 - 00:39:02:18

Kaylani

And it's also like I'll guide as well. If they don't, if they don't know what they're doing, I'll guide them so they feel comfortable. But if a man like knows if he's experienced, then usually like, you know, I'll let them kind of like do whatever, but and then he knows what he's doing and it's just fun for the both of us.

00:39:02:20 - 00:39:03:11

Kaylani

Oh.

00:39:03:12 - 00:39:19:04

Luna

I love that so much. Okay. What are your favorite ways to be communicated with when it comes to, like, tender talk or sexy things like do you like explicit communication? Direct communication? Like how do you invite people to speak openly with you? It seems like you're really good at it.

00:39:19:06 - 00:39:20:01

Kaylani

00:39:20:03 - 00:39:24:11

Kaylani

Definitely direct. I feel like just say it as it is.

00:39:24:12 - 00:39:25:00

Kaylani

Because.

00:39:25:04 - 00:39:33:13

Kaylani

You know, people say that like, actions speak louder than words, but sometimes, you know, actions can mean different things in different places.

00:39:33:13 - 00:39:34:11

Kaylani

Like.

00:39:34:13 - 00:39:40:00

Kaylani

A certain action can mean something in a different country. You know? So that's why communication is important. And you have to.

00:39:40:06 - 00:39:43:03

Kaylani

Say what you mean, you have to understand.

00:39:43:03 - 00:40:03:11

Kaylani

And so I think direct is just like the best way. I mean, not like blunt, like doing it. But just just saying it as it is, you know, and, and also not coming from a place of judgment, but, and also coming from a place of and compassion. I think kindness and openness and curiosity.

00:40:03:13 - 00:40:04:20

Luna

Sake. Yeah.

00:40:04:22 - 00:40:05:18

Kaylani

Yeah.

00:40:05:20 - 00:40:18:03

Luna

I love that. And also, my brain is still kind of like filtering what you said a few clicks back about, you know, taking time to communicate and connect before diving into the physical. And I'm.

00:40:18:03 - 00:40:18:15

Kaylani

Like.

00:40:18:17 - 00:40:32:17

Luna

Mildly giggling because I am a person that, has more than once, many times in the past, kind of made the mistake of like, trying to get to know someone while in the midst of fucking them. Like asking them, like all kinds of questions. Like while we're fucking into, like, learning to split that up.

00:40:32:17 - 00:40:34:01

Kaylani

Is, is very good.

00:40:34:01 - 00:40:40:04

Luna

But I also like the back and forth. You know, I am a I'm a touch first person, but I also like the talking. So, separating that is really good.

00:40:40:05 - 00:40:41:05

Kaylani

Okay.

00:40:41:07 - 00:41:00:02

Kaylani

So I was also very similar, to that, like, I mean, out of, out of this, line of work, like, in my, in my real life, I used to if I was, like, sexually attracted to somebody or anything, like, boom, right away, like, let's do this. And then I would just automatically be so infatuated by them that I would, like, jump into a relationship and, like, I don't even know who they are.

00:41:00:02 - 00:41:01:21

Kaylani

You know, I don't even like.

00:41:01:23 - 00:41:03:05

Kaylani

I mean, like I do, but, like.

00:41:03:05 - 00:41:15:10

Kaylani

I don't, you know, like, I don't know their values. I don't know their interests. I don't know how they are as a person. I just, like, automatically jumped in. And then by the time that, the read for like, I don't see the red flags and blinded by like all the lust and.

00:41:15:10 - 00:41:21:08

Kaylani

Then the chemicals and everything so many neurochemicals around I am, I realize like, oh shit.

00:41:21:08 - 00:41:46:04

Kaylani

Like, this is like not a good person to be with. I'm already too invested. My emotions are already there, you know. And so that's something that I've learned to not do anymore, is to try to know a person before I jump in completely. Because, yeah, if you just jump in, sometimes you're you're not seeing straight, you know, and you can end up in a, in a bad situation over time, a good way, I think is always taking your time.

00:41:46:06 - 00:42:11:08

Kaylani

Getting to know the person is just the right person for me. Do I feel comfortable because, like, you know, once you feel comfortable, then I feel like you can really, like I said, get deeper and, really surrender and be with the right person. And. Yeah, so I know this about myself. So I try to give people that space when they come here to, to be able to feel comfortable with me, you know, am I because, like, you know, I'm not maybe I'm not for everybody, and that's okay.

00:42:11:08 - 00:42:27:04

Kaylani

You know, I want them to know, like, if they come in and then they feel like I'm not their vibe, like, that's totally fine. I'm not here to convince you. Like, if I'm not for you, I'm not for you. And maybe there's somebody. I'm sure there's somebody else here that is more. You're right. You know, And I don't care.

00:42:27:04 - 00:42:33:06

Kaylani

Like, you can, like, I want everybody to feel comfortable when they come here, and I don't want to force anybody into anything like that. No.

00:42:33:07 - 00:42:35:21

Kaylani

Not me. So.

00:42:36:00 - 00:42:48:00

Kaylani

Yeah, it's all about being comfortable. And I think if I let people feel like they can get to know me and, like, feel comfortable with me, then I get that. Then they start to open up and feel good, you know?

00:42:48:02 - 00:42:49:15

Kaylani

So yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:42:49:19 - 00:43:14:20

Luna

I love that so much. One of the things that I have heard people, potential clients say to me is that they are concerned that a sex work style relationship is transactional. However, after speaking to a little bit, I think we have an abundance of evidence that like while there may be a container that is really clear that that includes a budget and finances, it really is about having a connection.

00:43:14:22 - 00:43:31:12

Luna

And now here's the part of the question where I'm totally projecting. But like, is it hot for you to have your lovers literally invest in your life, like in the way that, like they're like, hey, I really, really value you, like, is that a part of the work that is fun for you? Is it?

00:43:31:14 - 00:43:46:21

Kaylani

Absolutely. I mean, you know, I a lot of my clients tell me that it doesn't feel transactional at all with me. I mean, obviously, like, you know, we have to talk about that first. But then once that's done and over with, I'm not like about the money. I think, I mean, I.

00:43:47:00 - 00:43:49:18

Kaylani

You know what I mean? All of it.

00:43:49:19 - 00:44:05:06

Luna

I just think it's so hard to have a lover be like, don't want to wife you up. Do want to make sure you're taken care of. Like that to me, is one of the hottest things in the world. I'm like, wait. Freedom and the support of all of my creative and life goals. Thank you.

00:44:05:06 - 00:44:06:21

Kaylani

More, please. Yeah.

00:44:06:23 - 00:44:09:12

Kaylani

Oh my God. Yeah, that that's the best.

00:44:09:12 - 00:44:18:13

Luna

And like for me, it's such a stark contrast where I am clearly valued in a way that in casual dating never existed. Never like not even a day, you know.

00:44:18:15 - 00:44:34:22

Kaylani

Yeah. And it's like the clients that do come in who they see value, and that's why they give you, you know, the money that they do, you know, and, they're, they don't feel it. At least the ones that I have don't feel uncomfortable about it because they see the value that I bring. They feel good, I feel good like it's we're all feeling good together.

00:44:34:22 - 00:44:38:05

Kaylani

And, like I said, they've changed my life in so many ways.

00:44:38:05 - 00:44:44:18

Kaylani

Thank you to all of you guys who are listening. I appreciate you guys so much. Yeah.

00:44:44:20 - 00:44:59:03

Luna

I also feel like when people show up prepared to invest in their own pleasure that much I see them showing up differently for the whole experience and valuing it more, and then like, they're able to take away more from it. I don't know if you have that experience too.

00:44:59:05 - 00:45:14:09

Kaylani

Yeah, absolutely. Like men might come in and like, know what they want, know why they're here and, you know, respect you for everybody comes in here respectfully, by the way, I haven't I haven't gotten any weirdos. I think it being legal, like, kind of, you know, filters out the weirdos.

00:45:14:11 - 00:45:15:23

Kaylani

00:45:16:01 - 00:45:32:15

Kaylani

But, yeah, I, I do find that really sexy in a man. I mean, a man that knows what he wants and isn't afraid to take care of a woman, or care about, like what? Society. Things like that is super, super sexy to me.

00:45:32:20 - 00:45:38:17

Kaylani

Ooh, yeah. Yeah, I love it. Yeah. Okay.

00:45:38:21 - 00:45:46:22

Luna

How do you take care of yourself when you are at the ranch working and or between your tours? What sort of self-love do you like to practice.

00:45:47:04 - 00:45:58:09

Kaylani

At the ranch? Like I'm here for, for usually, like a month at a time. Because I fly in internationally. So, I stay as long as I can, and, and so.

00:45:58:15 - 00:46:02:17

Kaylani

It can get tough because we can't really, like, leave and and back.

00:46:02:17 - 00:46:04:06

Kaylani

Home. I'm, I work out like.

00:46:04:06 - 00:46:05:04

Kaylani

Six days a week.

00:46:05:04 - 00:46:09:07

Kaylani

I'm, like, really? All about my fitness and taking care of myself and eating healthy and.

00:46:09:11 - 00:46:15:19

Kaylani

And all of these things. And then I come here and, and I kind of like, lose my groove a little bit, but.

00:46:15:19 - 00:46:31:00

Kaylani

I've, been able to, like, make my little routine. And I love to, like, wake up early in the morning. I do like affirmations every morning. I try to meditate a journal, and I'll practice yoga in my own space before I go and present myself into the.

00:46:31:00 - 00:46:33:18

Kaylani

Real or into the brothel life. Yeah.

00:46:33:20 - 00:46:53:22

Kaylani

Because I need to like, make sure I'm all good, you know, in every way, inside and out, before I go out. Well, I've been doing that, pretty regularly, actually, this tour of this tour, I'm really proud of myself because I've been able to keep, like, a good routine in the mornings, and I'm night shift. Usually I go, like, it doesn't really matter what shift I am.

00:46:54:00 - 00:46:59:03

Kaylani

But whichever shift I start with at the beginning of the week, I want to keep that throughout the rest of my tour. That way.

00:46:59:03 - 00:46:59:18

Kaylani

I don't.

00:46:59:18 - 00:47:20:11

Kaylani

Like upside down feeling. And so this horrible night shift, and I've kept everything in the morning like for me and just being able to, you know, wake up, and do my morning routine like I have this morning routine that I do back home to, which is like waking up early, meditating, journaling and then practicing yoga. That's like always that's just in my routine.

00:47:20:11 - 00:47:43:02

Kaylani

And I've been able to bring it over here, too, which is great. And that helps me tremendously, I think. And yeah, I also we have so much down downtime here. Right. And so I'm like, I'm trying to, like learn different skills while I'm here trying to maximize like that. My time is as best as I can because like, besides, like, seeing clients and stuff.

00:47:43:04 - 00:48:05:22

Kaylani

You know, I don't want to just be lazy. Like, I want to do something with my time. I want to make it more valuable. So I'm trying to, like, I'm studying a different language while I'm here right now as well, trying to practice that. And I was looking at maybe like some courses. I haven't signed up for anything yet, but I'm all about self-development and I feel like this is a great place to like, work, like learn different skills because we have so much downtime.

00:48:06:00 - 00:48:13:06

Kaylani

So, yeah, I'm looking at different courses I could possibly take. While I'm here as well. But I haven't started any of this talk yet.

00:48:13:08 - 00:48:32:12

Luna

Oh, I love that. I love learning in the background, whether I'm on set, on a tour or whatever I'm doing. Like, that's that's I mean, the dopamine that we create with the curiosity that fuels our learning is a positive upward spiral which serves our creativity spiral, which is the same part of us that like, you know, original creation is our like sex selves, according to me.

00:48:32:18 - 00:49:01:19

Luna

But, you know, I feel like it all informs getting that dopamine system online is what creates desire to continue to learn and expand and grow ourselves. And it sounds like you are doing really awesome versions of that. Do you have like, hopes for the future, like dreams of a specific type of party, or even just things you want to learn in general for life, but like, you know, thinking about like future possibilities that turn you on, like what comes to mind for your, erotic and or creative bucket list?

00:49:01:21 - 00:49:05:01

Kaylani

Yes, yes, yes, I do have.

00:49:05:03 - 00:49:24:13

Kaylani

A couple, inspirations or goals, I guess you could say so. Sex work, like I said, has changed my life in so many ways and positive ways. But I don't see myself doing this type of sex work forever. I started I have my, I have like, a I've been here for three years and I told myself, like, I have a five year plan.

00:49:24:15 - 00:49:42:05

Kaylani

So like two more years is what I'm comfortable with. I'm, I'm, I think I've been pretty smart with my ambitions and my goals and like, with the money that I've made here and I haven't just blew it, you know, like, I know what I'm doing with it. So I've been trying to figure out what I want to do when I get out of here and how to transition out.

00:49:42:07 - 00:50:06:18

Kaylani

And I realize actually, just, just recently, and I think this came from, like, you know, the shame of shame on me are going to zero and and actually seeing, like, the value of my work that I actually do want to stay in this industry, but not necessarily, like working how I am today because I feel like right now this is kind of just like a stepping stone for me to gain experience and to gain skills.

00:50:07:00 - 00:50:30:02

Kaylani

But I do want to, I think, transition and to later, hopefully help other women in the adult industry feel good about themselves. Get rid of that shame and to like, I see their sexual energy as well. And like, leverage their sexual energy and power because, hey, like, we got some power here with our sexual energy into financial freedom.

00:50:30:04 - 00:50:44:22

Kaylani

Another thing is because I want to use, you know, what I've learned from this job? Because I feel like we do have a lot of hands on experience that psychologist or other relationship experts, they they're all theory, you know, but we.

00:50:44:22 - 00:50:46:14

Kaylani

Actually are living.

00:50:46:14 - 00:51:10:07

Kaylani

In this. So I think that our experience is extremely valuable. And so with that being said, and being exposed to so many different people and them telling me their relationship stories, I feel like I kind of know what, you know, makes people stray. And to help maybe couples or single people develop or help their close relationship.

00:51:10:07 - 00:51:20:08

Kaylani

So possibly going into more like intimacy coaching or. Yeah, like helping women, in this self industry, like, empower themselves and also like some wealth management.

00:51:20:08 - 00:51:22:03

Kaylani

Possibly. Yeah.

00:51:22:05 - 00:51:43:19

Luna

I mean, it's also integrated, right. Like our personal empowerment as a human being, our interpersonal deepest connections and our personal, you know, financial wealth and wellness. It's like it's all so related to our healthy self-esteem, more confidence. And it sounds like you're doing a really good job of supporting people in those ways. I fucking love.

00:51:43:19 - 00:51:44:17

Kaylani

That.

00:51:44:19 - 00:51:59:22

Luna

Okay, so you're totally not responsible for singlehandedly answering this question. It's a group brainstorm. But and how do you think that we collectively all together can co-create a more loving, woo filled world?

00:52:00:00 - 00:52:31:09

Kaylani

Well, I think all of that starts with acceptance and compassion, you know, and I think we like as majority of us, I, I would say all of us actually, are very non-judgmental. You know, we give people that space, to feel accepted. And so once you feel accepted and like, yeah, then the compassion. So I think as long as you flow or move in the world in the way of acceptance, and compassion, I think that just gives so much love, like everywhere.

00:52:31:10 - 00:52:35:20

Kaylani

Everybody just navigated that way. I think the world would be.

00:52:35:22 - 00:52:38:10

Kaylani

Way more loving place.

00:52:38:12 - 00:52:47:14

Luna

Totally. And I think you've given us a lot of good examples, but if you had to sum it up, how do you like to spread ripples of love?

00:52:47:16 - 00:52:52:19

Kaylani

I don't know where this comes from, but I'm very bubbly and I'm very happy, and I think I don't.

00:52:52:19 - 00:52:55:02

Kaylani

Know how I can keep this, like, positive.

00:52:55:02 - 00:52:55:12

Kaylani

Demeanor.

00:52:55:16 - 00:52:58:19

Kaylani

I'm a very, like, bubbly person, even with myself. Like, I don't like to.

00:52:58:19 - 00:52:59:18

Kaylani

Be even when I'm.

00:52:59:18 - 00:53:06:20

Kaylani

Alone. If I'm feeling like, you know everybody, I'm human. So there's days where I feel sad, but like, I don't feel sad for a long time.

00:53:06:20 - 00:53:07:21

Kaylani

Like I don't want want.

00:53:07:21 - 00:53:10:17

Kaylani

To feel this way anymore. Like I am in control of my own happiness.

00:53:10:17 - 00:53:11:06

Kaylani

Right?

00:53:11:08 - 00:53:28:01

Kaylani

And nobody wants to be around a Debbie Downer. So I think, one way that I share love is just being very, like, positive and warm and bubbly and accepting and people seem to gravitate to me for that reason. I think of how warm I am, like my therapist.

00:53:28:01 - 00:53:33:16

Kaylani

Was telling me that I'm like a light. Yeah, actually, you know, like people are just like,

00:53:33:18 - 00:53:44:11

Kaylani

So, I think is. Yeah. Like, that's how I carry myself is, warm, positive, loving. And. Yeah, that's how I flow. So that's how I show my love.

00:53:44:16 - 00:53:45:00

Kaylani

00:53:45:04 - 00:54:05:12

Luna

That's fucking beautiful. And thank you for sharing your sweetness and your love with us today on pod. Sweet listener lovers you can find Kehlani on the internet at Akamai xoxo, Kehlani. The link is in the description below. My sweet darling, thank you so much for joining me to share your stories.

00:54:05:14 - 00:54:08:11

Kaylani

Thank you so much for having me. I can't wait.

00:54:08:11 - 00:54:10:00

Kaylani

Until we work together.

00:54:10:00 - 00:54:11:07

Kaylani

Again. This.