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Luna

Our guest today is a 76 year old indigenous native human who uses he him pronouns. He is straight and single, and in a new era of choosing partners instead of allowing himself to be chosen, and is into facilitating a woman's orgasm orally and penetrative kissing.

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Luna

He is a great kisser.

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Luna

Receiving head, and he has many stories of hanging out in Hollywood in the era of free love. Originally from Angeles Mesa, rural California, now known as Inglewood. He is a writer, director from SoCal. Welcome, Bernie.

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Bernie

Nice to be here.

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Luna

So could you please start out by telling our sweet listeners what in general, before we get to the sexy stuff, what makes you excited in the world? Like, what do you love? What brings you joy? What makes you go woo!

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Bernie

My indigenous spirituality.

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Luna

Are there any other things that are just like any hobbies? The way you pass time? You are a writer. So are there certain genres that you're drawn to?

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Bernie

Writing excites me. I get overwhelmed sometimes with what the creator puts in my head for me to write.

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Luna

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Bernie

And I never list that as a hobby because it's a career. And it's what I do.

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Luna

Yeah.

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Bernie

But that excites me a lot.

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Luna

Yeah.

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Bernie

And talking about what I've written and how I'm going to direct, it really excites me. I get really, really enthusiastic.

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Luna

I know I our very first conversation you were telling me creative things and I was like, oh my gosh, a person after my own heart because I to find that creative energy. Well, here's a question for you. I find that creative energy flows through me and my artist creative energy. For me, there is a connection between my sexuality.

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Luna

Is that something you experience?

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Bernie

How I look at writing it is the hardest artwork there is because you have to work. Somebody has to work to appreciate it. They have to set aside time and read and let their mind go. Looking at a picture or a photograph or a painting. It's all they're watching a movie. It's already there. But it started with the writer and goes on with directing and acting.

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Bernie

So the hardest medium for me and art, I feel, is writing.

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Luna

Yeah. It's your own generative creative force. When you were experiencing those tough parts of life or just at any point, how do you show your self love? How would you say you will you.

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Bernie

Well I do when I look in the mirror. I find myself a bit attractive, but the outside world doesn't really deem me that way.

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Luna

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Bernie

I feel okay and so I just, you know, I, I get a little self-conscious in its use in its online stuff which is all boys anyway, handsome and good looking and stuff like that. And it's just something to lead up to. Scamming you for money is what the whole online dating and everything that's to me is. That's what it's about.

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Bernie

It's just scamming people.

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Luna

Totally. So what do you do when you're showing yourself love? You look at yourself. But what do you do to kind of, like, take care of you or treat yourself, or enjoy life with your own self?

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Bernie

I go to the movies a lot by myself. Basically by myself all the time.

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Luna

Yeah.

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Bernie

And, you know, reading is by myself. And I say read to somebody.

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Luna

Yeah.

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Bernie

A movie that I wrote, it's like, I'd like to read you a movie because anybody can say, I'd like to take you to a movie.

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Luna

Yeah. Yeah. Do you like spending time alone for me? Being alone is a big part of my self-care. Or is it a balance for you?

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Bernie

I enjoy it, but I miss a woman. It's closeness.

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Luna

Yeah.

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Bernie

Her scent, her feel, her breath. Heartbeat next to my heartbeat in a hug.

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Luna

Yeah. Does writing fall into the category of self-love for you, or does it feel separate because it is work?

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Bernie

Oh, I don't feel it's work.

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Luna

Okay.

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Bernie

It it's totally self-love. Because I'll write something and I'll go, wow, creator. How did I come up with that? It's like.

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Luna

Magic.

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Bernie

Yeah. It's like it hasn't been done before, but it's being done now.

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Luna

Yeah. What about when you are, for example, location scouting or kind of putting together the pictures in your brain, like the but not specifically writing the words part of the movie, but the other part of the writing?

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Bernie

Well, as a writer director, I have done what a lot of others haven't done as I have gone and scouting locations.

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Luna

Yeah.

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Bernie

And I have formulated stuff in my head while I was looking at the location, and it's great.

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Luna

Does it make you fall in love with yourself a little bit? Oh, yes. I feel like it's like, oh, yes. I think for me too, it's like the any act of creative self-expression where it's like in resonance, you know, where it's where it's like, I don't know, in flow with the universe. I don't know how to say it.

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Luna

That that's when I fall in love with it more.

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Bernie

I have a book. It's a compilation of directors telling their feelings about directing, and I don't know it word for word. And I didn't bring it with me because I didn't think of it until just now. But it's like, communicate your vision through your story and your actors by never limiting your vision.

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Luna

Allowing for the expansiveness. Yeah. Is there anything else to say about, like nourishing yourself with self-love?

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Bernie

I really love myself when I'm dropping weight for 40 years or more. I've been wanting to get down to like 155. When 60 I was down to 162, and then I went to work for five weeks and craft service jacked that up and I'm like, oh, like 173 now.

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Luna

So yeah. Well, okay, I hear that. I support your goals and I think you, as is right now is perfect. Just just to say that okay. So when it comes to receiving love from other people, how do you like, love to be shown to you? Like, how do you like receiving attention? How would another person who you being attentive.

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Bernie

Being honest, sincere, trustworthy and totally being into me? Yeah.

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Luna

Yeah. We want to be. I read a book recently that was like, men don't like being desired as much as women. And I was like.

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Bernie

Oh, come on, that's.

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Luna

Crap. I was like, I don't. The research is.

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Luna

Oh, you're synthesize. It's not big enough. I don't know this.

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Bernie

This man likes being wooed. I've always said, I love a woman that see what she wants and goes for it.

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Luna

Especially when it's you. Yeah.

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Bernie

Especially when it's me.

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Luna

Yeah.

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Luna

What, when you thinking about receiving, you said attentiveness of someone's attention. What kind of attention do you like. I mean you said sincere attention, but like, is there any specific texture, like listening to you maybe read a movie.

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Bernie

Or, you know, wanting to have that experience and having a movie that I wrote read to them? Yeah. Touch. Scent.

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Luna

Yeah. Breath. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. I think for me as an artist, I need a partner who sees and values my work because my work is a core part of my being, you know, my artwork, my creation.

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Bernie

I totally agree.

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Luna

Yeah. Yeah. I thought you might. Anything else? Like, are you a gifts person? Do you know, like you like to spend time?

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Bernie

I love giving gifts. And, you know, I.

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Luna

I know you came.

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Bernie

Prepared with.

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Luna

What? About receiving gifts? Do you like that, too? Because sometimes it doesn't go both way for some people. Some people does.

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Bernie

You know, if I get a gift, I'm really ecstatic, and I like it, but I don't expect it. I don't expect anything in return for my generosity at all. I don't do it because I want something out of it. I do it because that's the way I am.

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Luna

Yeah. Yeah. I love that. What are the ways that if you're spending time with someone you are romantically, sexually, whatever attracted to? Like how do you most enjoy spending that time? I heard physicality, but what other ways?

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Bernie

Kissing.

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Luna

Okay.

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Bernie

I love kissing because it's a way of our tongues being able to dance in each other's mouths.

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Luna

Yeah.

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Bernie

And it feels great. I mean, I could just kiss. I don't have to do anything else. Just hold and kiss.

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Luna

Really?

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Bernie

Well, if she.

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Luna

Does, like, it's the gateway drug for me.

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Bernie

Well, yeah, it is, but not always.

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Luna

From the.

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Bernie

From the other person's perspective. They don't make. Might not want to go there.

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Luna

Yeah.

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Bernie

So that's the only time that I ever want to hear the word no is if a lady changes her mind.

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Luna

I love her. Yeah. I think that's okay. Astute observation. Also, I am a person that, like. I know this about me. Like, I tend to be an escalator. Like, if I'm in the position of yes, I'm in yes mode. Which is why I, I keep my I keep myself pretty closed in general until I have a really good reason and then, like everything all at once, you know, I really benefit from someone who slowed me down because waiting to, like, doing just the kissing can be very, very.

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Bernie

What would I do? The first time I kissed someone, a woman, I don't use my tongue. I let her look for it.

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Luna

That's how I let her look. How, where, how did you learn to do that. When did you start doing that. Was I always saying like did you learn that.

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Bernie

That just came over me. But I have an aunt that's nine years and nine months older than me. So she has girlfriends that are nine years and nine months older than me and older and one of them that was 15 taught me how to French kiss when I was four years old. Wow. And whenever I was over at my grandma parent's house, because my aunt lived there and her girlfriends were over there, they would take turns, except for my aunt making out with me so they could practice French kissing.

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Luna

Okay. So. So you're like, I'll let someone find my tongue. Just an abundance of French kissing for me.

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Bernie

But I. I do that because I have this little indentation in my tongue.

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Luna

And with or to do like that. Okay? No.

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Bernie

And I'll slowly crawl across the tip of her tongue.

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Luna

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Bernie

And that usually gets him going pretty good.

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Luna

Fun. I love that on my very first kiss. I don't know if I've talked about this on, but it was so overwhelmingly tongue ish. Like, most slobbery. Like, it was so overwhelming. And I, especially when I was younger, I was highly sensitive to, like, anything squishy. And so it really was this experience of like war.

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Luna

You know, and and.

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Luna

Then I had. Yeah. When my other early experiences, my first boyfriend was like, you're not a very good kisser. I was like, oh, well, we just had different styles.

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Bernie

I if I've never had a bad kisser because if she wasn't that good, I taught her how to kiss.

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Luna

Yeah, that's the correct way to do it. How do you teach someone to kiss?

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Bernie

I don't like where their lips are curled in like this. What I do is I do a little.

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Luna

Bit where I'm going to mirror it for you on camera.

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Bernie

Make this real nice and soft.

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Luna

That's like a soft, open mouth.

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Bernie

Yeah, a little bit open so she can get her tongue in there and find mine.

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Luna

Okay.

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Bernie

Or at least attempt to. Yeah, until I'm ready to give it to her.

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Luna

Have you ever had to be like.

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Luna

Babe, please can I have some tongue now? Or, like, do they eventually find their way in if they're not getting rushed?

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Bernie

They usually they just go right for me because they're not used. And and I never blame the woman. Because if those are the kind of guys that are used to kissing her, that's how she kisses. Yeah, it has nothing to do with her. It's how she's learned.

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Luna

Right? Right. It sounds like you have a very open, receptive, worshipful nature. Is that always been a part of you?

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Bernie

Yeah. I, I was getting back to my younger years when I was five years old. Next door to my grandmother was a five year old boy, and I would always go play. We would play cowboys and Indians, and I was always the Indian. And one time I went over there in his 17, almost 17 year old sister said, he's not home.

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Bernie

And she brought me in and had me go down on her, and she enjoyed it immensely. So every time I came over, that's what she would have me do. And if we'd be in my grandmother's backyard. She'd be wearing shorts and she'd move them. Go, hey, Bernie. And she would have her legs spread and move her shorts over to show me her her goodness.

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Bernie

And I would take her behind the garage and go down on her.

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Luna

Okay, so it sounds like young you was curious about that experience and you kept doing it.

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Bernie

Well, I was good at it.

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Luna

Yeah.

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Bernie

And I just expounded.

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Luna

Okay. Oh, okay. We're going to get into your details. Okay. When do you feel the most connected to another human being? You know, it can be definitely in a romantic and or sexual context. But even outside of that, like, what elements in general allow you to feel connected to another human being?

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Bernie

Humor. Humor. Either my humor, their humor, or both of our humor. And it it is like with a man or a woman. The humor. I mean, I have work mates and one of them always wants a joke from me, and he just goes ballistic over how great the jokes are and was. You got to tell this to somebody else, you know, you can't just like, tell me.

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Luna

You know, I want to have a joke.

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Luna

Do you have a joke that you can tell me right now? Is that putting you on the spot?

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Bernie

No, I got one. I got my go to my favorite one.

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Luna

Okay. Can I have it?

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Bernie

Yes. Third grade class. Teachers going to teacher conference so they get a substitute. She's giving them the curriculum and stuff. And she says when you have an oral quiz, whatever you do, this little girl in front with the beautiful blue eyes, she has the foulest mouth of anybody in the world. So be careful not to call on her.

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Bernie

So keeping that in mind when they do, and I always use the name of the person that I'm telling them to joke to. So keeping that in mind, she says the teacher says, all right, class, I want you all to think of a noun beginning with the letter a. The first hand up is this pretty little girl with the blue eyes, and she goes, oh, she's going to say ass or asshole.

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Bernie

So Bernie, Bernie goes, Apple. Very good. Bernie. All right. Class now, beginning with the letter B, her hand is up again. First one, I'm not going to call her. She's going to say bitch or bastard, so I'll call on Susie. Susie gets up and does this little curtsy or prissy and says, palm. She goes, very good. This goes on all through the alphabet.

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Bernie

The first hand up is this little blue eyed pretty girl and she doesn't call on her. Then when she gets to the letter R, she goes, class, I want you to give me a now with the give me the letter R, everybody raises her hand but this little girl. So she goes, okay, I got her. So she calls on her.

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Bernie

She goes, can you give me a noun? Beginning with the letter R? And she goes, wrap in the teacher size. Or at least she goes big fucking round with a cock like this.

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Luna

Okay. Very appropriate for this podcast. I like it, I love it.

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Bernie

That's John is like favorite joke.

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Luna

And love that. Okay, so humor.

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Luna

Is an important connector for you. Anything else that jumps to mind? Like for me it's food. Mostly food, I don't know, talking, exchanging information, knowing people's personal histories.

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Bernie

Talking is good because. But I like talking more either on a video call or a telephone call, or in person rather than just texting.

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Luna

Oh, same.

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Bernie

Keyboard is just the worst.

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Luna

In my mind. Texting is for logistical purposes. Yeah.

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Bernie

Like my son. He text. He text is a lot. He'd rather text and call because he works, and it's easier for him to text than it is to make a phone call or to answer the phone, because he can you get you get send him a text and he can answer you without you calling him and him not answering.

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Bernie

And you leave him a voicemail. You leave him a voicemail, he'll text you back because he can't get to the phone.

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Luna

That's a good point. There definitely are exceptions. For example, I love receiving dirty text messages. You know, in between if I have a lover or someone that I'm speaking with. Now that's supplementary. You know what I mean? Like, if we only have a relationship of dirty text messages, well, that better be on my OnlyFans and I better be getting tips.

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Luna

You know? I love that. Is it any kind of talking or other subjects that you like in particular?

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Bernie

I like talking movies, whether it's a movie that I don't like and they like, and they tell me what they like about it, and I tell them what I don't like about it.

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Luna

What do you need in a connection for it to go from friendly to like, sexy, physically intimate.

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Bernie

Want and desire?

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Luna

Yeah, that makes sense.

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Bernie

And passion.

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Luna

Passion. Yeah. I'm assuming it's coming from someone who you are. You know, where there's a mutual attraction or a mutual want. Mutual desire. Are there any types of like like the texture in the connection? Like do you need to get to a certain point or is it visual based? Like, are you like like do you have any criteria in that?

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Luna

Well.

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Bernie

When you first see somebody it's totally visual. And that is going to lead to other things. You first have to be attracted to somebody unless you're introduced by friends.

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Luna

Yeah.

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Bernie

And then you're in a situation where there's a lot of people around and you're having conversations. And then all of a sudden it's just you two having a conversation. Yeah.

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Luna

That's so juicy. I love that. It's so funny. The way my brain works. Like I can tell if someone is considered normatively attractive, but I am like my visual system is only like comes online to recognize them visually as attractive once I know them. Like for me, I need a I need a streak of energy. I need to know some information about them.

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Luna

I need to know a little bit about their values of their art.

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Bernie

My brother and I, we went to a club. We both don't drink, but we went to dance.

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Luna

Okay.

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Bernie

And I'm standing there in this somewhat attractive woman comes up to me. She goes first thing she says is what's your story. And I go I'm a writer. I got a lot of stories. And then she proceeded to tell to talk to me and mentioned stuff that she thought I would be interested in and I wasn't. So finally she says, well, it was nice meeting you.

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Bernie

And she walked away because I wasn't in the zone with her.

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Luna

That is a wild story. Thank you for sharing the idea that someone would see a complete stranger and think that they're into a certain thing, instead of asking them, is is almost unthinkable to me. Yeah. Wow. Okay, so that's a that's a really clear example of like not a connection, not a yeah, not a path.

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Bernie

Then I have a platonic friend that whenever she was in town should stay at my house. I have a king size bed. So she slept in the bed. We just happened to be in there together. And one night I gave her, a massage, and I go, hey, you really need. And she goes, don't be getting all horny on me.

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Bernie

And I go, don't flatter yourself. And I turned over and went to sleep.

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Luna

You're like asking a massage. I mean, I understand, I understand why maybe she was thinking that way, because I certainly have. I have the type of brain where if someone tells me something, I will literally believe them. Like, you know. So I've had a friend in the past, I was like, yeah, you can sleep in my king size bed with me.

00:22:18:13 - 00:22:35:03

Luna

And I've had, you know, girlfriends and boyfriends like just platonic girl and boyfriends who have slept in my king size bed with me. And it was fine and regular. Yeah. And then I had another friend who had a ton of pent up desire for me that I didn't know about, and I was like, yeah, you can sleep in my bed.

00:22:35:03 - 00:22:42:18

Luna

And then that person was hugely disappointed when it didn't escalate into something romantic. And I was like, totally caught off guard. And it was a.

00:22:42:20 - 00:22:43:05

Bernie

An eye.

00:22:43:06 - 00:22:43:19

Luna

Situation.

00:22:43:19 - 00:22:56:11

Bernie

But I do have a tendency to tell somebody that we're just going to sleep. Yeah, but don't get all hands on me because we're going to sleep.

00:22:56:14 - 00:22:58:22

Luna

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love it. I love that.

00:22:58:22 - 00:23:02:12

Bernie

If you can control yourself. Yeah, you can sleep in my bed.

00:23:02:14 - 00:23:04:12

Luna

Otherwise I have a couch over there.

00:23:04:14 - 00:23:06:09

Bernie

I'll sleep on the couch. You can have the bed. Oh.

00:23:06:09 - 00:23:09:16

Luna

That's nice. Yeah, that's really nice. Okay.

00:23:09:16 - 00:23:11:08

Bernie

And I've done that lots of times.

00:23:11:10 - 00:23:12:00

Luna

Okay.

00:23:12:02 - 00:23:21:02

Bernie

That's not only to a woman, but to a guy or a couple that come over. They can have my bed. I'll sleep on the couch.

00:23:21:02 - 00:23:29:23

Luna

Totally. My parents are. I'm going to pick my parents up from the airport after this, and they are going to sleep in my bed tonight, and I will sleep on one of these two couches here. Maybe I'll put them together. Probably, probably a little neck lounge.

00:23:30:01 - 00:23:31:17

Bernie

That's a little got a little length to.

00:23:31:17 - 00:23:54:06

Luna

It. So that one's, that one's a little longer. I slept on this one last time when I had a friend here because we, you know, fires, evacuations. And so yeah, this one I was like, oh, a little bit too long for this one. Yeah. But I digress. Okay, so I love that we have that in common. Any other like thoughts or wisdom on love and or connection and or relationships from your 76 years on this planet?

00:23:54:07 - 00:24:32:12

Bernie

Well, I believe that love is where two people want to be with each other, but they allow each other to have their own space. Yeah, and that has worked out for me, except getting back to in my life, I've always let the wrong women pick me because I haven't drank in 50 years and I've never taken drugs. So I'll meet a woman and she's like, really digging that.

00:24:32:14 - 00:24:57:00

Bernie

But she doesn't do that, so she gets bummed because I don't party with her in there. And then she decides, I want to end this. No matter how good the sex is or how good the conversations are, they want to get high. Yeah, and I don't do that. I won't even buy somebody a drink. I take a woman out and she wants a glass of wine.

00:24:57:02 - 00:24:59:07

Bernie

She's got to buy that or so.

00:24:59:09 - 00:25:01:06

Luna

I'll buy I coffee because.

00:25:01:06 - 00:25:05:04

Bernie

I two times I have done that.

00:25:05:06 - 00:25:09:23

Luna

Actually. You're right. I did that in April and it was a fucking disaster.

00:25:09:23 - 00:25:29:12

Bernie

Oh, I've got in a car accident. After I've dropped them off, I've gotten in a car accident because I bought them alcohol. Oh, the only person I buy alcohol for is my mother, okay. Because she's 94 and I go shopping for her, and I. She gets a case or two of coke.

00:25:29:12 - 00:25:30:19

Luna

Champagne. Okay, well, I.

00:25:30:19 - 00:25:46:04

Luna

Think that's a good exception to that rule. And I really have found that the more that I just like filter for the people who are just on my same wavelength, like, it's fine if you want to go out and party, do that. But like, I'm more of a like cozy, quiet place. I have not allowed party. I mean, I do like dancing, but.

00:25:46:04 - 00:26:13:20

Bernie

There was a women that I've been in love with since 1976 or 77, and we finally got together. But she drinks. But we finally got together. And then a few years ago, we were going to a ceremony on New Year's Day and New Year's Eve. She drank so she couldn't go to the ceremony. She drank so bad she was falling down.

00:26:13:20 - 00:26:46:19

Bernie

She would go get champagne for my mom, but she would drink two glasses before she brought it back to the table. And she was bad off. So I had my sister drive her home only a mile and I drove her car home. She went in, she got undressed, put on her pajamas and got into bed and was livid at me in the morning because I undressed her and I said, no, no, girl, you undressed yourself.

00:26:46:21 - 00:27:14:02

Bernie

I had nothing to do with that. But even though we had, we were is, you know, we we supposedly we both loved each other, both in love with each other. But she was not going to commit sexually, which is okay. She'd kiss and hug, which is fine because of my feelings towards her. Yeah, but when that happened, I mean, we're still friends.

00:27:14:08 - 00:27:19:23

Bernie

We still love each other. We tell each other we love it, but we're. I'm not going to go there.

00:27:20:00 - 00:27:20:18

Luna

Yeah.

00:27:20:20 - 00:27:30:23

Bernie

I mean, knowing that I was going to a ceremony and did that, you know, I slept on the couch. I didn't even sleep in the bedroom with her because she was blitzed.

00:27:31:04 - 00:27:41:05

Luna

Yeah. I mean, that's such a good point in terms of highlighting disconnection, right? Like it's the opposite of what would be an ideal scenario for.

00:27:41:06 - 00:27:53:02

Bernie

Well, I myself, I do not like to have sex with somebody that's loaded saying that's high or drunk because, yeah, I want them to enjoy themselves.

00:27:53:02 - 00:28:03:01

Luna

And consent is been a factor. And if someone's going to wake up the next day and be like, what did we do? Oh, did I really want to do that? That feels really scary to me. Yeah, yeah, I'm right there with you.

00:28:03:01 - 00:28:07:22

Bernie

Oh, I when I all my life when I've heard the word no I stopped.

00:28:08:01 - 00:28:08:19

Luna

Yeah.

00:28:08:21 - 00:28:40:05

Bernie

Yeah I just stopped there was one time and in the 60s a biker friend of mine was in the bed next to me with my baby sister. And he's what? He's getting really frisky, and she's saying no, and he's, like, pushing it. And he's a big dude. And I said, hey, she said, no, stop. Otherwise I'm going to have to come over there and do something.

00:28:40:06 - 00:28:57:16

Bernie

And I go, remember, you have a 15 year old sister. How would you like it if somebody was doing trying to pressure her into going all the way with you? And he. I heard him whisper to my sister, tell them everything's okay. I'm sorry.

00:28:57:18 - 00:29:05:09

Luna

Oh, man. Yeah. Wow. Thank goodness you were there. Can I ask how you and.

00:29:05:09 - 00:29:08:05

Luna

Your sister ended up in the same room together?

00:29:08:07 - 00:29:12:19

Bernie

Because we only had two bedrooms, and that's why I had two beds, for sure.

00:29:12:19 - 00:29:15:01

Luna

Yeah.

00:29:15:03 - 00:29:34:18

Luna

Wow. Transitioning in the sexy zone. If you had to rate yourself on a sexual shame, a meter with ten being a super full of sexual shame and zero being like, I don't have any. Where do you fall today and when? If ever in your lifetime has it squealed?

00:29:34:20 - 00:29:36:03

Bernie

Never.

00:29:36:05 - 00:29:37:06

Luna

What are you the things you love?

00:29:37:08 - 00:29:39:03

Bernie

Nothing shamed me.

00:29:39:05 - 00:29:41:10

Luna

So you're as a lifelong zero.

00:29:41:12 - 00:29:42:12

Bernie

Lifelong zero.

00:29:42:13 - 00:29:44:23

Luna

I'm a high five. What?

00:29:45:01 - 00:29:48:14

Bernie

One time though, I was almost raped.

00:29:48:16 - 00:29:49:12

Luna

Oh, damn.

00:29:49:17 - 00:30:15:22

Bernie

And I was thinking I was going, you know, person was much bigger than me. I was fighting him, but I knew it was going in a bad way, and I didn't want that to happen. And I remembered the Smothers Brothers album where one of them said, I fell into a bout of chocolate. Well, what did you yell? I yelled fire!

00:30:16:00 - 00:30:24:04

Bernie

Why did you yell fire? Because nobody would come if I said chocolate. So rather than help, I yelled fire!

00:30:24:05 - 00:30:24:16

Luna

Yeah.

00:30:24:18 - 00:30:42:10

Bernie

Because everybody will come to see a fire. They won't come and help you. Yeah, and there was people running down the halls of the hotel yelling fire, fire, fire, banging on all the doors and everything. And I got saved. Wow. Thank you, Smothers brothers.

00:30:42:12 - 00:30:47:12

Luna

Smothers brothers. Damn. Oh, I'm so glad you got saved. That sounds really scary.

00:30:47:14 - 00:30:48:12

Bernie

It was.

00:30:49:04 - 00:30:55:12

Luna

Did you have any, like, communal healing around that? Did you ever get to talk to anyone about that, or was it just like part of your story?

00:30:55:14 - 00:30:57:20

Bernie

This is probably the fifth time I've mentioned it.

00:30:57:21 - 00:31:06:04

Luna

Okay. Okay. So you grew up in an environment where it sounds like shame was not really present for you, do you?

00:31:06:05 - 00:31:10:17

Bernie

Why do you. I was I was hanging out in Hollywood in the 60s.

00:31:10:18 - 00:31:11:03

Luna

Okay.

00:31:11:08 - 00:31:13:07

Bernie

And that was the free love era.

00:31:13:09 - 00:31:13:20

Luna

Okay.

00:31:13:20 - 00:31:17:18

Bernie

And I participated in a lot of free love.

00:31:17:18 - 00:31:24:22

Luna

Okay. So okay. 1948 so you were teens, like at the beginning of the 60s. It's your into your adulthood.

00:31:25:00 - 00:31:28:22

Bernie

The Jackson Browne song in 69. I was 21.

00:31:30:18 - 00:31:32:04

Luna

Okay.

00:31:32:06 - 00:31:53:10

Bernie

So there was this one woman, young lady, maybe a couple of years older than me, we would meet at canter's and then we'd all go to like a party. And when her acid kicked in she would just jack me off until I came. That's what she like to do.

00:31:53:13 - 00:31:54:11

Luna

Like out in public?

00:31:54:13 - 00:31:56:10

Bernie

No, no. You know, private.

00:31:56:11 - 00:31:58:12

Luna

Oh, okay. But you.

00:31:58:14 - 00:32:07:20

Bernie

Know. But she would do that. That's what she did. She didn't kiss me. She didn't have sex with me other than she would just jack me off.

00:32:08:00 - 00:32:11:10

Luna

Okay. How was that for you?

00:32:11:12 - 00:32:17:20

Bernie

You felt great. Okay. But, you know, it takes me a long time to come, so it was a lot of fun.

00:32:18:02 - 00:32:26:12

Luna

Okay. Was there lube? Do you like dry handjobs from other people? What? Are there any secrets to your cock?

00:32:26:14 - 00:32:41:00

Bernie

There was no lube, okay, but she had really soft hands and she enjoyed what she was doing. So that was. That was a turn on for me. And hey, another hand is better than your own.

00:32:41:02 - 00:32:58:15

Luna

Okay, okay. I have talked to people where that's not the case, and I've talked to people who are like, yeah, just give me somebody else's hand. And then like I myself, I remember early hand jobs. I just felt like I didn't know how to touch each dick differently, you know, like because everyone is different. But when I was younger, they wouldn't always tell me their secrets, you know?

00:32:58:15 - 00:33:00:20

Luna

Now I know how to, like, find all the spots.

00:33:00:22 - 00:33:33:14

Bernie

There was one time in Hollywood I met this girl from, I think it was Yucaipa. And she goes, she was into me. I was into her. We're back at my place. And she goes, I was a virgin until yesterday. And this guy that all the chicks went crazy for was the guy that the virgin dizer. But myself, I couldn't penetrator.

00:33:33:16 - 00:33:57:17

Bernie

So I go, how do you know that he did this? Because there's something wrong here. I'm lucky to get a finger in you. And she goes, well, he got on top of me in about a minute and a half later he said, you just been bald by the famous so-and-so. So what I did is I taught her how to give a great blowjob.

00:33:57:21 - 00:34:22:07

Bernie

Okay. And then about six months later, I'm up hanging out in front of the whiskey, and these guys come up to me, and because they heard somebody say my name and they go, are you so-and-so? And I go, yeah. And he goes, do you know so-and-so? And I go, yeah. And I just backed up against the wall because I didn't know if someone was going to swing on me.

00:34:22:09 - 00:34:41:06

Bernie

And I was a big fighter, you know, I had long hear you call me a name or whistled at me or gave me grief. I fought at the drop of a hat. Even other long haired guys are coming to me. Those people were giving me shit and I would go over. I wouldn't do anything, but I would let them see me.

00:34:41:08 - 00:34:57:14

Bernie

If they said something to me, then I'd take care of business. So I said, yeah, why? And they go on behalf of all the guys in Yucaipa, we want to thank you for teaching her how to give blowjobs, because she gives the best in town.

00:34:57:15 - 00:35:03:16

Luna

Oh my gosh, what? Do you remember what you taught like of? Have you instructed people since?

00:35:03:18 - 00:35:16:00

Bernie

I just that my main thing is imagine you're trying to get the last part of a malt through a straw.

00:35:16:01 - 00:35:21:18

Luna

I love that story so much. I love that they came to find you to think that's experienced.

00:35:21:23 - 00:35:25:00

Bernie

Well, they didn't they they were up there, you know.

00:35:25:01 - 00:35:26:03

Luna

But that's so hot.

00:35:26:05 - 00:35:27:21

Bernie

Because she tells everybody.

00:35:27:23 - 00:35:28:15

Luna

You.

00:35:28:16 - 00:35:30:22

Bernie

They she would tell everybody who did it.

00:35:30:23 - 00:35:34:02

Luna

That's kind of amazing. Yeah.

00:35:34:04 - 00:35:44:02

Luna

Wow. Oh my gosh okay. If you had to define it what is sexy or like what is sexy to you?

00:35:44:04 - 00:36:11:20

Bernie

A great pair of eyes. There was a a woman back in the 60s that she had a Playboy. She was in Playboy, and one of my friends referred to as her because she was really fine. And at Canter's they have a lobby for the girls bathroom with a mirror so all the women can freshen up with a mirror.

00:36:11:22 - 00:36:33:05

Bernie

And I was standing out because there were too many guys in the bathroom. Usually it's the other way around. And I looked at her and I go, well, you have two of the biggest. And she stuck her chest out and I go, Brown eyes. Have you ever seen.

00:36:33:07 - 00:36:36:20

Luna

You I love that I'm going to do that. Oh my.

00:36:36:20 - 00:37:05:20

Bernie

Gosh. I have a scene in a Western that I wrote where these two guys, they're in, it's a one room bungalow like thing. So Western and one guy is in bed with one girl, and the other guy's in bed with the other girl. And when they finish, they go, hey, let's swap. So they the two guys crawl across the floor, and when they get to each other, they clasp wrist and go to the other.

00:37:05:21 - 00:37:06:19

Luna

I of that.

00:37:06:21 - 00:37:08:23

Bernie

And then they do.

00:37:08:23 - 00:37:10:15

Luna

Is that inspired by real life?

00:37:10:17 - 00:37:16:20

Bernie

No. But it came to me so it could happen in real life sometime.

00:37:16:20 - 00:37:23:03

Luna

Sometimes you manifest it that way. Okay. Are there any other things that you think are particularly sexy?

00:37:23:05 - 00:37:28:06

Bernie

I love tits, no matter what size, the bigger the nipple, the better for me.

00:37:28:06 - 00:37:36:03

Luna

Oh yeah, big nipples are good, minor, medium and small, but like, I love that. Do you, what do you love about them?

00:37:36:05 - 00:37:44:20

Bernie

I love how I make them feel to the person that owns them. Yeah, with my fingers.

00:37:45:00 - 00:37:48:05

Luna

I nipple worshiper I love with my fingers.

00:37:48:07 - 00:37:49:00

Bernie

My tongue.

00:37:49:01 - 00:37:49:07

Luna

Yeah.

00:37:49:11 - 00:37:49:19

Bernie

And my.

00:37:49:19 - 00:37:51:07

Luna

Lips. Okay.

00:37:51:09 - 00:37:54:02

Luna

What kind of moves do you do.

00:37:54:04 - 00:37:55:10

Bernie

On nipples or clit?

00:37:55:20 - 00:38:01:07

Luna

Both of you start with nipples because we're on that topic, but you can definitely go to.

00:38:01:09 - 00:38:26:01

Bernie

My tongue works really well and sucking works really good. Okay, but in going down on a woman, I really enjoy making them cum federally, vaginally and anally, multiple times simultaneously with my mouth, tongue and fingers.

00:38:26:03 - 00:38:34:23

Luna

But lucky them. That's amazing. How did you learn to do these things? You want to take us through your kind of, like, sex ed lesson? Well, you gave us a little preview.

00:38:35:00 - 00:38:36:21

Bernie

I. I just did it.

00:38:36:23 - 00:38:37:09

Luna

Really?

00:38:37:10 - 00:38:44:21

Bernie

Because I love making a woman come. I get really turned on by their reactions.

00:38:45:00 - 00:38:46:03

Luna

00:38:46:05 - 00:38:59:06

Bernie

I like a woman that makes noise. It doesn't hold back. It doesn't, like, bite the pillow. She can bite my shoulder and drag her nails across my back. But to muffle her sound.

00:38:59:08 - 00:39:00:00

Luna

Oh.

00:39:00:02 - 00:39:06:02

Bernie

I had a roommate that if a girl screamed or moaned loudly, he would punch her in the stomach.

00:39:06:06 - 00:39:06:23

Luna

No.

00:39:06:23 - 00:39:09:03

Bernie

Yeah, because he didn't like that.

00:39:09:05 - 00:39:10:18

Luna

Oh, no.

00:39:10:20 - 00:39:11:14

Bernie

Yeah.

00:39:11:16 - 00:39:14:04

Luna

Oh, did you tell him? Don't do that, dude.

00:39:14:06 - 00:39:16:19

Bernie

I did, but you know, that was him.

00:39:16:21 - 00:39:20:15

Luna

Oh my gosh. Oh I hope they stopped fucking him after that. Wow.

00:39:20:17 - 00:39:25:00

Bernie

You know that or don't say nothing. Yeah. Bite their tongue.

00:39:25:02 - 00:39:26:06

Luna

Yeah.

00:39:26:08 - 00:39:30:18

Bernie

Because if you bite their shoulder or his shoulder or scratch you, he's going to do the same thing.

00:39:30:23 - 00:39:47:06

Luna

Damn, damn. So when did you start exploring anal things? And it sounds like you learned the difference between clip stimulation and internal stimulation. Like, what was your personal sex ed like? Like it sounds like you had a lot of hands on experience at a young age.

00:39:47:08 - 00:40:01:05

Bernie

I, I did a lot of oral stuff before I, I was 18 when I officially got laid. Okay. Because when you're a kid, you just go through the motions, but you're not really doing it.

00:40:01:11 - 00:40:02:06

Luna

Okay?

00:40:02:08 - 00:40:25:03

Bernie

Because I, you know, when I was 7 or 8, there were two girls that lived down my block. One of them had four older brothers, and she could kick my ass and she wanted me to do her. And I said, Terry, Jimmy and Roger going to kick my ass, because if you don't, I will. So I did, and then Cheryl goes, well, when you're done, you got to do me.

00:40:25:05 - 00:40:51:04

Bernie

Otherwise I'm going to tell Terry, Jimmy and Roger. But it doesn't count. So when I was 18, after a lot of oral stimulation, she decided she wanted me to do it. And it took me, like, 45 minutes to come. And it was like said, oh, there is I mean, I make her cum bunches of times and I only get to come once.

00:40:51:06 - 00:41:01:17

Bernie

So I decide that making her cum bunches of times and then I, then I get taken care of is fine.

00:41:01:18 - 00:41:02:11

Luna

Yeah.

00:41:02:13 - 00:41:05:08

Bernie

I mean, I will do oral sex.

00:41:05:13 - 00:41:06:17

Luna

00:41:06:19 - 00:41:16:06

Bernie

Then I will do either handjob, blowjob or get laid for me. Then I'll go right back to oral sex on her.

00:41:16:06 - 00:41:17:07

Luna

That's yummy.

00:41:17:09 - 00:41:20:11

Bernie

Because I like making them.

00:41:20:11 - 00:41:30:05

Luna

Come. Yeah, yeah. I'm kind of like I mean I'm often Pam's one and done person because I'll have such an intense orgasm that it's like I'll get.

00:41:30:05 - 00:41:34:20

Bernie

What I want. I when I tell somebody, if they ask me to stop, I go, what do you wimp?

00:41:35:18 - 00:41:47:04

Luna

I am sometimes no. Like, literally sometimes my body will be, so, like like I won't be able to function, but I really like to get close to the edge and, you know, and then pull back.

00:41:47:07 - 00:41:58:18

Bernie

Oh, I do that sometimes. Yeah, I do that a lot, but but I don't do it very often because I like making a woman cum.

00:41:58:22 - 00:42:12:17

Luna

Well, and I also like making a woman cum. And so if I'm with a girlfriend who like, is is it like the orgasmic type where she can like have multiple and it's good for her? Like, I know some people who are, just like next.

00:42:12:19 - 00:42:15:05

Luna

Comers, you know? Yeah. For me.

00:42:15:05 - 00:42:29:04

Luna

Like having the build and, like, drawing it out as long as possible is really exciting. I mean, I can sometimes cum more than once, but, I also don't like to feel pressured to, you know, like, I like to just feel pleasured more so than specifically the orgasm. But, I mean.

00:42:29:06 - 00:42:31:19

Luna

Feel pretty good, isn't it? Yeah. When did you.

00:42:31:19 - 00:42:41:17

Luna

Discover your own body? Like, when did you start touching yourself masturbating? It also sounds like you were, encouraged into sex at quite a young age, in many ways. Like, so.

00:42:41:17 - 00:42:47:15

Bernie

I didn't really do anything for me until I was about, I think maybe.

00:42:47:15 - 00:42:50:04

Luna

16, 15.

00:42:50:06 - 00:43:14:17

Bernie

I was at my aunt and uncle's and he had a lot of Playboy magazines, and I was looking through them. Maybe he's 13 or 14, I don't know, somewhere on there and I was looking at a centerfold and the next thing I knew, I came and then, hey, I like the feeling. So I made myself do it more often than not, okay?

00:43:14:18 - 00:43:29:07

Bernie

Because I like the feeling, but it just lasts for that amount of just, you know, and then there's a refraction period. So I just when I'm with somebody, I just go back to organization.

00:43:29:09 - 00:43:30:05

Luna

Yeah.

00:43:30:07 - 00:43:33:07

Bernie

Because I like making them.

00:43:35:01 - 00:43:50:19

Luna

Have you noticed over the years, like if you go through phases or have different ways that you like to stimulate and or pleasure yourself, and maybe you could tell us if you like to, I don't know, have balls included any other parts of your body that like make it next level for you? Like what are some of your pleasure points?

00:43:50:21 - 00:43:53:10

Bernie

Just just the hand.

00:43:53:12 - 00:43:53:21

Luna

Okay.

00:43:53:22 - 00:43:55:00

Bernie

Just the hand. You.

00:43:55:00 - 00:43:56:00

Luna

Right handed. Left handed.

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Bernie

Right.

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Luna

Okay. Do you have most sensitive spot on your cock or anything like that.

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Bernie

Up towards the.

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Luna

Head okay, okay.

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Bernie

And and it takes me a long time to come. And sometimes I just get tired and I just go, hey, I ain't going to come. So I go to sleep, okay?

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Luna

Are you can I ask circumcised? Yes. Okay. Yeah.

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Bernie

Yeah, I would we my father wasn't and I wanted to keep my son intact, so he wasn't. So,

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Luna

Yeah. Yeah. Cool. So you I sometimes get bored or not bored, but, like, I'm frustrated. Maybe when I'm like, it's not happening.

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Bernie

It doesn't frustrate me. I just go, this ain't going to happen. So. Okay. Just stop.

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Luna

Okay? Are you more of, like, do you typically have external stimulation or are you a fantasy kind of guy, or is it a mixture? Like what? What gets you oh, when you're solo.

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Bernie

I just think about going down. I mean, making her feel really good.

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Luna

Okay. Can you tell us some of your moves? Because I'm like, I feel like I could probably learn a thing or two from you. Like when you were faced.

00:44:59:02 - 00:45:02:10

Luna

With a new pussy. Like, how do you explore and get to know her?

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Luna

Our guest today is a 76 year old indigenous native human who uses he him pronouns. He is straight and single, and in a new era of choosing partners instead of allowing himself to be chosen, and is into facilitating a woman's orgasm orally and penetrative kissing. He is a great kisser. Receiving head, and he has many stories of hanging out in Hollywood in the era of free love.

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Luna

Originally from Angeles Mesa, rural California, now known as Inglewood. He is a writer, director from SoCal. Welcome, Bernie. Okay. Can you tell us some of your moves? Because I'm like, I feel like I could probably learn a thing or two from you. Like when you are faced with a new pussy, like, how do you explore and get to know her?

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Bernie

Well.

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Bernie

I use my fingers to get the lay of the land, and then I curse and lick and suck and probe with two fingers in the vagina. I'm to say pussy because vaginas to clinical. Just like. Yeah, penis is a terrible name for a cock, dude.

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Luna

And I'm like, could we have something a little sexier than balls or testicles? Like, I'm just, you know, I'm like, I want to have some better words here. I feel you.

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Bernie

And. And then the fingers, there's the third hole. So.

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Luna

Yeah.

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Bernie

I just wet my finger and go there.

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Luna

Okay.

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Bernie

It works pretty good.

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Luna

Nice. Do you find a rhythm with different people? Like it sounds like. I mean, it sounds like you're really good at making people come with your mouth.

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Bernie

I really enjoy when she's come in. She grabs my head and just forces it on her. I like that.

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Luna

Yeah I like, I do.

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Bernie

I like the pleasure noises and I like the fact that she loves it.

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Luna

Yeah. What about when it comes to asshole. That sounds like you will play with them a little bit. Do you also enjoy licking those or is it fingers only.

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Bernie

Oh no. Tung Tung.

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Luna

Too? Yeah. Tongue too. Okay.

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Bernie

And what I do is I have them when they're laying on their stomach, I am spread their butt cheeks so I can get to it without having to do that myself.

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Luna

Yeah, it's nice. That's really nice. Okay, so going back to fill in the gaps, did you ever get, like, an official sex education or sex talk or anything like that?

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Bernie

No.

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Luna

Sounds like you have a lot of hands on experience. Yes. Okay. Did you ever talk about sex with, like, guy friends or people in your sphere? Or was it more with lovers only?

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Bernie

Probably lovers only. I mean, guys always talk smack. You know, they'll go. They'll talk about their cock size, and I go, why are you telling other guys you got a big dick? Just tell the girls. Oh, no, I'm not going to do that. So, like, I don't want to know if you got a big dick. That's that's what you say.

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Bernie

So that's fine with me.

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Luna

Just tell the girls.

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Bernie

Just tell the girls. Don't tell the guys.

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Luna

Well, maybe he was interested in something different. Who knows?

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Bernie

They just guys just have a tendency to to do that.

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Luna

It's so funny.

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Luna

Okay. Did you. So you grew up in this time of, like, free love? Like, what was that, like, coming of age in the 60s? Like what do you remember about, like, the social narratives and like, in many medias over the years, there is that kind of like push past the no message that is kind of written in, but it sounds like you did not absorb that.

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Luna

So like.

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Luna

How.

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Luna

Did you unfold? How did you grow into this beautiful lover that you are.

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Bernie

Having the opportunity?

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Luna

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Bernie

Because without the opportunity I wouldn't. Yeah I wouldn't have or know what I know now.

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Luna

So would you just like pick people up in person like when you're out and about in Hollywood. It sounds like I mean one girl was on acid and then you want to give you a hand. Okay. Like, how would you, like, meet people in the future?

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Bernie

Well, in the 60s, it was easy to meet people because, you know, the long hair thing and the rock and roll and.

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Luna

Okay.

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Bernie

And the quote unquote, hippies. And there was one time I was with a girl from Alabama, and the next night my I had a friend who had an apartment in Hollywood. So he took me in this. We took this girl home. So I wasn't driving then. I didn't have a car. He did. We took this girl where she was staying in this commune, and her sister was there and they wanted to come in, used very shower.

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Bernie

So this young hippie girl came with them to take a shower and my friend was like, all over her. The girl from Alabama had a really good time, but she wanted to go out and just do her thing with her sister. So that night, that's what she did. I and the night before that, when we were when I first was with her, this brunet comes up to me and goes, see that cute blond over there?

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Bernie

I go, yeah, she goes. She says, if you got nothing better to do to come to this address, and I go, well, I'm with somebody tonight, but she can meet me here tomorrow. So she did. I took her home and I kept her for two days. And my friend Barry took her home, dropped her off and her the brunet said, how was it?

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Bernie

And she said it was great. Why don't you meet him at canter's tonight and you can have him.

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Luna

Oh my God.

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Bernie

So I did, she did. I did. She enjoyed it. Then a couple of nights after they did, they're their sisters in the hippie girl and some hippie guy took showers. The hippie girl was staying. The night moved in. She wasn't in the commune anymore. She was staying there with him. I went to a party with the other two girls that came out here from Texas.

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Bernie

There were three girls from Dallas, one girl from Houston. So I was with one of the girls. One of the other girls from Texas. And then the next morning, the other girl from Texas didn't want to hitchhike back to where she was staying. So I offered to hitchhike with her, and I go, wait a minute. This is go to Barry's and I'll see if Barry can give you a ride.

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Bernie

So we go over to Barry's, and Barry knocked on the door and he goes, who is it? I go, it's me, Bernie. And he goes, okay. He opened the door. He had his boxers on and he said, I go, can you give her a ride to? Well, give me a couple of minutes. And he shut the door and he finished what he was doing, and he came.

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Bernie

And so he opened the door and he goes, get in the bed and I'll take her when I wake up. Okay, so there's Barry at the left side of the bed. Then the girl, he was with, then me, then the girl I was that. So she's all opened by the girl. The Texas girls like, all over me. And she reaches down in this other girl has got her hand on my cock.

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Bernie

So she tells her, get your hand off of. He's mine right now. Oh, so right now. So after I did her and then Barry woke up, he took her. The door didn't even shut yet. And that girl was all over me. And so I had to take care. But at the end of of the time, in a week's time, with one girl from Alabama and four girls from Texas, I had a really good southern accent.

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Luna

Oh my gosh. So it sounds like you are a literal chick magnet. Like you.

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Luna

Like.

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Bernie

No. Not really. I only did it once.

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Luna

Word of mouth.

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Bernie

Yeah. I mean, my sister, she is a year younger than me, once a year younger, one's two years younger and my one sister did he out a lot in Hollywood the same time I did. I mean, she wore micro mini skirts in 1966 before they even came out. I had a blue and gray Pendleton that she made six inch mini skirts, hip huggers.

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Luna

What's a Pendleton?

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Bernie

A Pendleton's a shirt.

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Luna

Oh, okay. Oh, wow. Oh, yeah. That's called the future fashion forward. She's fashion forward.

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Bernie

Well, it was, you know, the Pendleton's was a preferred shirt by surfers. And I was a surfer before I started hanging out in Hollywood. And guys would throw $5 bills on the floor in a restaurant just so she could bend over and pick them up for them.

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Luna