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272 | Threesome Queen: Xena Amor on Woo


28 bisexual Guatemalan caucasian woman, polyamorous, legal courtesan, former stripper, into: sporty chic, tall women, gentle men, riding on top, scissoring, roleplaying, strapping men, nature, smutty writing




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Luna

And our guest today is a 28 year old bisexual, single Guatemalan slash Caucasian polyamorous woman who is into sporty chicks, tall women, sweet gentlemen, especially by people with dark hair and eyes. She is into riding on top, scissoring with toys and lube, and finding matching cleats for optimal alignment to create the most perfect scissoring role playing as a schoolgirl and also a teacher in Playland with her sex worker friends at Sheri's Ranch, a legal brothel in Pahrump, Nevada, and strapping a man, especially Bending Over is her favorite fantasy to fulfill.


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Luna

She loves being in nature, caring for her two dogs, hot, smutty writing for her small cult following online and doing artwork. A former stripper and current legal courtesan welcomes Xena.


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Xena

Hello!


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Luna

I am so excited to have you here today. This. This has been a long time coming. Yes. Could you please start off by telling us sweet listeners, if you had to rate yourself today on a sexual shaming meter with ten being the most full of sexual shame and zero being like, I don't have any, where do you fall today, right now?


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Luna

And when, if ever, do you, Jim Acosta squiggle?


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Xena

No shame at all. Yeah, I've always been pretty shameless. I feel like I grew up in a family that were always unapologetically themselves. Hispanic family, big family. So, there's never any shame. I didn't grow up super religious or anything to, you know, it make me feel shame about sex. So I feel very, you know, awesome.


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Luna

And so it's just always been like that. Have you ever had moments where someone is like, shame and you're like, shame, or are you pretty chill?


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Xena

Yes. I'm pretty. I'm pretty chill. There are some times where I do feel like I do something, and then everyone, you know, gives you that looking like, oh, I have to remember to have shame. It's not that I feel the shame. I just say, I remember I have to have the same. It's like, it's a shame because I don't have it.


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Xena

I relate to that. I'm like, oh, oh, okay. Like, oh, I should have that, I know I should. I know in some moments I should have the shame. So I'm like.


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Luna

Dissing the shame.


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Xena

Yeah I love that. Like okay, wrong crowd.


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Xena

Pull back around them okay.


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Luna

Well how else do we calibrate. That's awesome. Okay, so tell us first, what do you think is sexy? Like what do you find sexy? And also like what is your personal definition of sexy?


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Xena

Smiling when people smile a lot. And I find that so sexy, I just I can't get over the the constant smiling. So that's very sexy to me. And communication's very sexy also, you know, I like when someone comes up immediately and tells me exactly what they're looking for, what they want. I find that so I think you.


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Xena

I am a pleaser. So again, when you tell me what you like. And now I feel like, okay, I have a goal in mind, and I'm excited for it. So, yes, I find those traits very sexy.


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Luna

Okay. And when do you feel sexiest?


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Xena

When someone is eating me out. I feel so sexy. I just, it's just, you know, they're down there, and this is. You feel like, in power. Like. Yeah. It just makes me feel so beautiful. So sexy. Especially when they're, you know, doing a really good a job when they're enthusiastic about it, you know, excited down there.


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Luna

And it seems like you're a good communicator. So I feel like someone would likely feel very comfy with you because it sounds like you, you know, without that shame, with the desire for that to. Right, like you can.


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Xena

Like them through it.


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Luna

If you do give them like lessons, you're like, lift right up.


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Xena

Yes. Because I feel like, why just lay there and let them go do a task for five minutes that you're like, yeah. So I do try to redirect it in a way where no one feels like, oh, you know, just just do a redirection more than just like, no, don't do that or is it. It's more of, oh, you know, it feel real nice if you went a little bit, you know, so just a redirection.


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Xena

And that helps everyone involved in that. Yeah. Sometimes, you know, like, you don't say it right. Someone can pull back and feel like, oh, no, I'm just bad at this. So it really does help to redirect and, Yeah. Yeah.


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Luna

That's so funny. I know it's a colloquial question you were asking, but, like, why just lay there early? Me like, didn't know about communication, didn't know how to do the communication. When I did try to do the communications, I was really, like, abrupt and abrasive and a little bit robotic in my younger years. And so I also just have this, like streak of curiosity.


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Luna

So for a while I was like, well, I just want to see what happens. Even though this is mildly uncomfortable, like, what will I discover? Yeah. You know, but it's like in my in my more recent years and like, oh, right. I could spend more time in pleasure. Do you feel like you were always good at communicating sex wise or something?


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Xena

Yes. I'm excited you asked. I have always been good at it. But in the beginning, I would communicate to, my partners what to do. I start having sex. Teenage years. So this is ten other teenagers, and immediately they start their going, what, how to do it? So I honestly, even though in the beginning, when we anybody I would have sex with, I would start to do this.


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Xena

I really like this. Sometimes they're like, what? I don't, you know, and then I'll just like. All right, go. So I did give in. I did communicate, but I would also just give in and just lay there when they wouldn't, you know, give back, when they weren't understanding or I don't know, again, teenagers, they I'm just like, oh, no, this is the way I'm doing it.


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Xena

It's fine. I went through the.


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Luna

Shame thing because it's like, well, I'm going to say my thing and then, okay, I'll try again next time. Yeah. You know. Okay, okay. Tell us more about how you learned about sex. Okay. So it sounds like you had some explorations in your teenage years. But before we get to the details of that, like, when do you first remember learning about a did you get a sex talk?


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Luna

Like, what were your formative learning memories sex wise?


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Xena

I did not get a sex talk. I think my mom was always too embarrassed. In school, obviously, they just taught us about pads. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. So, yeah. I grew up in Virginia. Small town. They didn't. It was just about period. It wasn't about anything. There was no sex education. It was more, you're going to get periods and you'll get pregnant if you have sex.


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Xena

It was exactly like the mean girls are. You'll get sex and get pregnant and die. So that was that was our talk. But I was, early on, I had a friend who had a older brother, and he had a massive porn collection, and I think we're only like ten. And we found his collection and we would sneak them out and, like Shark Tales or Shark.


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Xena

We were like a cartoon DVD over, and we would sneak a dicks the is this.


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Luna

And then I would use it massive. I was like.


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Xena

Okay, okay, that's like a porn collection. Massive porn. Sneak them out. So it's oh, you smell just okay. So like DVD the disc. Yes. Oh, so so sneak the disco. And other this like Disney this and then we'd go back to my bedroom, my room, because I lived across the street. And that's where we watched some.


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Luna

Like with friends or alone.


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Xena

Yes, this was with my friends. So we watched them together and, that's we did explored a little. They was still too young. Yeah, so way too young. But we did find that one collection and there was a lot on there. The interviews, interview couches one. So. Oh, really? Do the couch interview ones.


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Luna

We do. Literally. I was just telling you about my couch interview fantasy. Wait, this exists already?


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Xena

It's it's I wish I could think of it. It's a casting couch. So I think there's this guy who has a couch. He brings them to the casting couch in front of them and ask them questions, like an interview. And then from there they say, okay.


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Luna

My fantasy is so much more wholesome than that. I was calling it like a comfy, cozy couch. Well, maybe I'll still do it. Maybe that's the pivot. Maybe this is the first. This is my couch. But now I gotta go to other people's couches. And the end of that fantasy is, First I interview people about their couches, how they got it, and then, have they had sex on it?


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Luna

And then I masturbate on it if they're comfortable with that. Okay. That's so funny. Wait, so some of the first porn you saw had interviews. What were those like? What do you remember? And what do you.


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Xena

Remember.


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Luna

Learning from that porn?


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Xena

I remember hating how he was talking to her. Really? Like, because it was, like, kind of like a degrading porn. It was more of a you little slut. Oh. You thought you're in this for. I don't know. So I was like, oh my God, it's horrible without context. Like I had no idea about any kink or anything.


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Xena

So to me it was like, well, that's abusive. Like, what a rude gentleman. And then there was also the late night. I don't know if you remember this, but, I don't know if it's Comcast, but there was late night, I think it was 70s porn that played on Comcast at night.


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Luna

I only ever grew up like I grew up.


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Xena

On a farm with like.


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Luna

3 or 4 TV channels. Like I didn't get exposed to cable or satellite.


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Xena

Ever. They used to played porn right there on that on, Cinemax. Okay. Like late night. So and there was a, back and forth button so you could press like, so I would watch my cartoon and press the last button of a family member was, and it would jump back to Nickelodeon. But yes, there was late night and there's these are like 70s.


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Xena

And so there was like a lot of hair there. Like old school is just so cool. And they're like movies. This is, this is back when porn were movie. Many people.


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Luna

Watched.


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Xena

This. There's like a pirate pirate movie. I don't know when that came out. I watched as a teenager, so I actually had access to a lot of boner thanks to the TV and my friend's older brother. Okay, so we had. Yeah. Even though I wasn't, I didn't grow up with the internet like kids today. How? It's easy.


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Xena

I still felt pretty easy for me without even the internet. Wow.


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Luna

So, okay, so do you feel like watching the porn was related to your ability to communicate at all? Or did you have, like, other friends who were having sex talking about sex? Like, what was that vibe like? Because it sounds like you didn't get adults educating you guys, but I mean, at least adults outside of the television you were watching.


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Xena

I feel like the porn did leave me. It strays like like I think that's a lot of people's like. How so? Like, So you watch porn, you see things they do. And so in your first have your sexual experience with someone, you do try to recreate things you see in porn, and it's too much first time and it doesn't make sense that, I'm trying to remember exactly like what we in the partner I had at the time.


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Xena

Did we? Because we were watching porn. Like, let's see, let's do that. We couldn't make it work for a little bit. Yeah. It was, it was it was very awkward in there. But that's like in your heart, right?


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Luna

It's like your your vision comes first and then your skill comes later. Like, you acquire the actual technical skill.


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Xena

Yeah. We're so much in. Yeah. But I remember thinking I was like, okay, that's not very realistic. That's like the candy bar. So like that's not, it doesn't it didn't feel good. I was like, this is unrealistic. Okay. I can't even explain it. So I do feel like what porn it did. Yeah. I feel like the kind of porn I was probably watching, it was all the, the rough stuff.


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Xena

So I feel like that probably wasn't a good education.


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Luna

Okay, so I'm not a comfy casting couch.


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Xena

Okay, okay.


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Luna

Do you feel like you had the expectation that it should feel good? Like, did you have pleasure education? And had you already discovered, like, it sounds like you fooled around with friends when you were younger, but, like, did you discover pleasure yourself? Were you, like, touching yourself at that point?


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Xena

I did masturbate a lot. Okay. So I was masturbating a lot, and I felt really good. But when I brought anyone into it, didn't feel good at all. Maybe because it's still so new. Me. Because they didn't know what they're doing or still young, so I did. For a time, I thought I would never like sex.


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Xena

So there was a time I really thought I was like, I'm not going to like it. I'm not going to be someone who likes this. And then one day, I don't know what happened. I think the doggy style position, we tried that and, something happened where I was like, and, or. No, I was riding on top.


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Xena

So this is actually my favorite move because when you're riding, you can rub your clit down onto them as you're riding on top of them. So it's my favorite move I so that's what it was. I climbed on top of them. I was like, let me just try this. I'll certainly be sexy. And that's when I it just felt so good.


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Xena

And I, I got so wet. And after that it was like I couldn't. I was so in love. Like I was obsessed. I'm like, I gotta have enough time. For those first few years, I was like a rabbit, okay, this is like everywhere outside in the car. This kind of get enough of it. So it was it was funny, that switch, that immediate switch over when I was like, oh my God, it's so hard to fulfill.


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Luna

Is it? Can I ask specifics? Okay. Is it like only if you're facing them or is it like also like a reverse cowgirl? Like, is it on top of facing like missionary, you know?


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Xena

Yeah, I do like facing really. Because when I do turn, it feels sexy and it's, but it's more like I'm putting on a show, so I'm not focused on my pleasure when I'm, the reverse cowgirl, so. Oh, really? Yeah. I feel like I'm too much like, oh, so for them.


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Luna

So if someone gets to look at your.


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Xena

You're just like, I was like, yeah. So I think I'm too much in my head. Well, I'm, I'm, I'm in reverse. I'm just like trying to make it as sexy as possible. So I think eye contact too. And kissing does.


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Luna

So. Oh that's.


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Xena

Face contact.


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Luna

It's hot. And do you feel like angles wise. Do you need like the pubic bone to give pressure or like what is the part about the facing or is it just the show part?


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Xena

Yeah I do need pressure. Yeah.


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Luna

There we do it. Okay, okay. Is that the way you're most likely to come? Yes. Yes okay. Yeah. When did you realize that you liked women too?


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Xena

So I've always, I always kind of knew, I used to have little friends, and we do very suspicious, like, gaze into each other's eyes, hold me to this hands. Like, if you ever had a have a girlfriend. Not saying that you would if you ever had a two. And just, since I was really little, that's always, a best friend there where we live, attached to each other.


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Xena

And it was just in a different way than other best friends. I realize you realize that. Yes. Okay. So definitely different. Like, I'll cry for them. Like, I like this. Then it was just it was a lot different than how everybody else saw their, you know, friends. It was different.


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Luna

From like, other female.


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Xena

Friends. Yeah. I wanted to dance with them. And we kissed each other's cheeks. And, you know, I wanted to be close, and, And then in movies, I remember being a little girl, and there was this Christmas movie. And then for five seconds, there's this little girl in the frame, and she pops up for five seconds. I would rewind over and over and I was like, she's so pretty.


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Xena

She's so pretty. And I rewind it over and over. I think I was eight at the time, somewhere between 6 and 8, yes. Yeah. It was very small, so I always knew. Okay, okay, okay.


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Luna

Wow. I was so cool. I'm like hearing that I'm like, oh my gosh. Because I was always like, yeah, of course everybody knows women are the most beautiful creatures in the whole wide world, but I'm straight. I like guys, you know? Like, I just didn't know that there.


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Xena

Well, I did grow up in a small town where being gay was like, I don't know, you never heard about it. So I even though I knew, like that there was something different there, I still kind of held myself in the closet for. Oh, really?


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Luna

Yeah. Okay. Okay. When did you feel like permission to openly, like, be out?


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Xena

It honestly wasn't until I became a stripper moved out of my hometown, that's all. I really feel like the hometown. It wasn't there. Yeah. Okay.


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Luna

Before you, before we get to your stripper era, is there anything else formative experience wise, whether it's like first experiences with partners, funny stories, interesting places that like, contributed to your sexual learnings at a younger in your younger years. And it could be masturbation stories, it could be like first oral sex and whatever or anything like that from the early era.


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Xena

You know, I actually didn't do blowjobs till 18. I don't know if that's interesting, but really. Yeah. Okay. Until I turned 18, then I was like, I better start trying this.


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Luna

Is that was that before or after stripper era? I like to just go and.


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Xena

So yeah, became a stripper. 19 okay. Okay. So the year before we did.


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Luna

So then what inspired you to give a blowjob? You were like, I should just try this.


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Xena

Was it? It should. So I, I was with the guy at the time who he just kept asking for, and, one day we got an argument and I guess it was more of a. Hey, you want don't notice how I don't know this. I don't know, it was more of an apology. Okay, so I wanted to do something.


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Xena

I guess, after we had a little fight and was, like.


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Luna

Like an olive branch offering.


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Xena

Yes. Okay, okay. I was like, okay, I'll try that thing. You want to try? You know, I actually really liked it. So. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well.


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Luna

We got to have good inspirations to drive.


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Xena

It was another thing. I was like, I'm never going to like that. I'm never going to do that. Okay?


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Luna

You already gone down on pussies at that time.


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Xena

No. Okay. Not I went for another actually, until, yeah. Until 19. So when I started, that's when I really, when I became a stripper is when I started explored more with women. Okay, okay.


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Luna

And had you received anything at that time or was it all sort of like teenage fumbling?


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Xena

Yeah, it was more dry humping. I'm making out. Fumbling,


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Luna

Like hands above or below the pants a little bit like.


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Xena

Yeah, just more of a. Yeah.


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Luna

Okay, so tell us what you learned about sex and your sexuality during your stripper years.


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Xena

Yeah, during my stripper years. So I wasn't confident to go to women. They're more scary to me. So they would actually approach me and can real.


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Luna

In life or at a strip club.


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Xena

The strip club. Okay, so I'm dancing on the stage and then, you know, out of nowhere, the girl next to you comes up to you and just starts making out. It just that's how it happens sometimes. And that's when I was like, I love this. I love this so much. I want more of it. And, then I started getting friends there and sometimes it was just a thing that we'd all get together.


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Xena

I, I one time there was a all girl orgy with just one man.


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Luna

With, like, coworker friends or just like anyone who.


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Xena

Okay, okay, okay, okay. These are my stripper friends. So we'd all just random times, they were like, hey, you know, let's just go ahead. Let's get a motel tonight and let's all go at it. So it was so fun. That's when I, Yes, that's the best. Like, that was the beginning of the best sex years, I guess.


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Xena

So that was like, from fumbling around to like. To I saw yeah I guess it was a big switch. So that might have been the next 2.0 stage. Okay. Now it's even better now it's like now it's not even just me feeling good now this is this is like I mean this is like this is my mind's wide open now of doing different things of,


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Xena

I didn't think scissoring was real when I first started trying with women. What do we try? Okay, so that brings us back to the porn.


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Luna

So because you don't know how to line clips up yet.


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Xena

So when you watch porn, it's a little different. Yeah. You have to make it look good on camera for angles. They're not trying to, you know, they're just trying to look good. Not good on angles, on camera. So it's not accurate to when you do it in real life and try to do it the same way you saw it.


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Xena

No, it's never going to work. It does not feel good.


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Luna

When I'm photographing people. I'm like elbow back like this. And and I give them really specific technical things and they're like, this feels so hot, but it looks so good on.


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Xena

The little camera. So it's not like, you know, they're trying to fool anybody. Just looks so good on camera. If you did real lesbian sex on camera, you the. If you're trying to show it to people they can't see because you're, you know. So, Yeah, I did find you have to do it a certain way, which is either, you know, climb on top, I guess.


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Xena

Yeah. So, yeah, you're either climbing on top this way. So you might have to basically just align your clit. You just have to try to align your clit as much as possible. Or the person on top sometimes takes control and they'll come. And then you flip over and then the other person has our turn.


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Luna

Do you have a favorite? Like, do do you like to be the first comer or the second comer? Do you care?


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Xena

Or.


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Luna

Like, you know.


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Xena

I keep trying to get everyone to be the first, but I find that it is a new thing that everyone's. I realize a lot of people don't do scissoring a lot. A lot of women do tell me they're like, oh, no, that's not a real thing. It's a porn thing. So it is a lot of really. Yes, a lot of people do.


00:21:07:09 - 00:21:22:05

Xena

And I'm like, no, you have to do it a right way. And then so I have to show them first. So I'm usually always on top. So once I yeah, show them then they can jump on top and like figure out their own way. Yeah. Just basically figuring out you know yeah how you're how can you rub it.


00:21:22:06 - 00:21:28:09

Xena

But also putting lube a little bit of lubed for a good slip and slide makes it to so much better.


00:21:28:09 - 00:21:46:04

Luna

I told you my favorite way to like to receive or give lube. I like to just, like, do this. What's this called? What is this motion like, squirt screen squirt like, with, like, thing with the pump one. So like whatever I want to the brand name because they're not our sponsor. But like with my favorite one that has a pump, I like to go, like, high up.


00:21:46:04 - 00:22:08:07

Luna

And I play a game like, like like the target game of like just trying to get it on because I love it, like on myself. If I'm doing like a masturbation video or whatever, like, I love to just like feel the draw and I like it. Cool. I know there are lube warmers out there that's a cool sensation too, but I would rather have it like a little bit cold and like feel the sensation of it until like on partners, whether they're pussy owners or cock owners.


00:22:08:07 - 00:22:11:03

Luna

Like, I just love to like go really up high and try to get it.


00:22:11:06 - 00:22:12:17

Xena

I like that lower.


00:22:12:21 - 00:22:18:05

Luna

I mean, that's like a fun game and it's almost like pin the tail on the donkey, but sexy virgin. And then I get to like, slide around.


00:22:18:06 - 00:22:24:09

Xena

I'm gonna try that. You know, I do that with my hand because I have obsessed with that. Oh yeah. And I said no on my own.


00:22:24:11 - 00:22:40:23

Luna

Yeah, I need to do a masturbation session. Like, it's just extra exciting for me, especially if I have, like, like a camera down, you know? So I'll do it to camera set up. We're all like, look at my this camera, but I'll have my phone here as the main screen be camera until like it's down there. So I'm like looking both places and it's really, really like yummy.


00:22:41:01 - 00:22:58:05

Luna

But I like that. Okay, here's a question. Because I don't have that much experience scissoring. Like, if I end up in that angle, great. You know, I definitely have had like, couples who are like nude and sleeping with ladies be like, oh, we want to try scissoring, you know? And it's it. I like, it's a whatever. It depends on the.


00:22:58:06 - 00:23:17:23

Luna

Oh, okay. No, I'm trying to ask too many questions. I want to stay focused. Okay. So I only have a limited amount with scissoring, but I recently because I'm not always exactly aware of where my body is and time and space sound myself kind of like scissoring a dude, like because my early experience with scissoring, which is not real experience.


00:23:17:23 - 00:23:43:06

Luna

Like as a kid, I would scissor Barbies like I was obsessed with, just like putting them together. And then I and I thought that's what sex was like, like regardless of body parts. And and so when I realized that they can, like, face each other and squiggle like, that was very confusing to me. And I still didn't have lots of fantasies about, like, being separate and like some sort of like contraption where we can just like straight, like, poke ourselves into each other with like, arm, like, I don't know, like, want to build a jungle gym that's like.


00:23:43:10 - 00:24:00:17

Luna

Yeah, but I found myself, like, with a partner who, like, was a little bit older than me and, like, not as much like, was in some physical pain. So he couldn't move as much. And so I ended up like grabbing his leg and using that to like, get really, really deep. Have you ever scissor dude? He was not going to.


00:24:00:17 - 00:24:01:00

Xena

No, I was.


00:24:01:01 - 00:24:02:05

Luna

I was going to say I.


00:24:02:07 - 00:24:04:10

Xena

It I'm. Yeah.


00:24:04:12 - 00:24:06:13

Luna

And he was like I've never done this before.


00:24:06:16 - 00:24:08:22

Xena

Just I mean it just feels good.


00:24:09:02 - 00:24:25:10

Luna

It was really, really nice. And our faces weren't close, but like, it was cool because I could watch him. I could see him in pleasure, you know, because I love face to face. But sometimes, I have to remember to blink so I don't freak people out. So I'm like, how?


00:24:25:12 - 00:24:26:02

Xena

Okay. Weak.


00:24:26:03 - 00:24:38:08

Luna

Okay, so rewinding back to your scissoring. Okay, so Motel Orgy has lots of stripper friends, beautiful ladies. You realizing you're into them, but what got you to stripping in the first place?


00:24:38:10 - 00:24:45:22

Xena

So I was working the regular, waitress jobs. You know, dude. And I think.


00:24:45:22 - 00:24:50:07

Luna

It's a game. It was a cocktail server, and I was like, I get, I get more.


00:24:50:09 - 00:24:59:03

Xena

I get more tips. I dress, and then you flirt a little bit, you get more tips, and then it's just like a pipeline towards. Yeah. I was.


00:24:59:03 - 00:25:04:11

Luna

Like, if I wish schnapps behind the bar, then I get even more tip. If I wear a bra, I got even more.


00:25:04:11 - 00:25:26:14

Xena

To send your float down the river to the stripper club this year. Club? So yes, I, I had a friend, actually, I can't remember now. I, actually had a friend who was like, please come work with me as a cocktail waitress. I get in there and the manager, he looks at me, he's like, no, you're a stripper.


00:25:26:16 - 00:25:39:20

Xena

He's like, your energy. Everything about he's like, really? If you don't apply to be a stripper today, I promise your guy you're going to be a stripper. You're good. Even if you're. He allowed me to be a cocktail waitress cause I want to be with my husband. And so it wasn't like he was like, no, you have to be a stripper.


00:25:39:22 - 00:25:43:00

Xena

No, he was just telling me that, he was like, I just he's like.


00:25:43:01 - 00:25:43:15

Luna

I see it.


00:25:43:15 - 00:26:00:21

Xena

And he's like, I. He's like, look, I've been here many years. I just, I, I just, I just want you not to waste your time. He was trying to help me. And try to help you make more money. Yes. Because as a cocktail waitress, we weren't making a lot. It was small town. And I did, I immediately, I love stripping, I love the pole dance.


00:26:00:21 - 00:26:18:18

Xena

I love the dancing. So I'm really glad that, after a couple months, when my friend quit, I was like, I was going to quit, too, because the the cocktail waitress thing, it wasn't. I was making actually more at a regular bar, which sucked. So I was going to give it up, and then I was like, let me just try it.


00:26:18:20 - 00:26:38:22

Xena

So I got up there. I was so nervous. Anxiety, for the first, the first day set for the next the first three months, you would feel like a wave of anxiety. And I asked a lot of the ladies there, and we would all say that the first stage that for the first three months of dancing, you feel like this is your nervous system is just like.


00:26:39:00 - 00:26:50:08

Xena

And then you dance and then the first dollar you get, you're like, wow. And then just something comes over you, it clicks and you're in stripper mode and that's that's all it takes, $1 bill. And dude, it was like the gateway.


00:26:50:08 - 00:27:08:23

Luna

And I totally relate to that. Okay. So do you feel like you have a money kink? Because I feel like I yeah, I feel like I realize that through I don't know if I've told you this story. When I was bartending, like one day there was this guy and I was like, flirting so hard. And he was like, oh, you know, at the time I was like mid early 20s.


00:27:08:23 - 00:27:25:12

Luna

So for me, like starting with someone in his 40s was like a big deal, you know, and and I had this joke at the time where when they were like, do you still have my credit card back there because it opened a tab, I'd be like, yes. And if you let me keep it, I'll send you a picture of whatever I get and Agent Provocateur and like, you know.


00:27:25:12 - 00:27:39:14

Luna

And so I'd been like saying that as like, haha, joke and then he was like, not that credit card. That's my work one. And he took out a different one and handed it to me. He's like, but you can spend up to $1,000 on that one. And that was the moment where I was like a puppy dog. That had a trunk.


00:27:39:14 - 00:27:56:17

Luna

Like I was like, I was just, I didn't and I like, but I remember, I remember like running to the back and like panicking and being like, you know, and luckily, unluckily, at the time I was like also producing content for pickup artists. And so I was like, what do I do? And let me think about it. Friend was like, we can't completely reject him.


00:27:56:17 - 00:28:13:04

Luna

Like, if you know, you got that, that'll be complete rejection. Especially if he's cute like you and see where it goes. He was generous. And so he was like spent half like because I was like, that's that was like an insane amount of money to me at the time. So it sounds like for you, that version was like maybe your first dollar, maybe, maybe early origins of the cocktail.


00:28:13:04 - 00:28:20:01

Luna

Like, what was the first? When was the first moment you were like, oh, money for my sexiness is yummy.


00:28:20:03 - 00:28:45:21

Xena

So I had a client come in as a, baby stripper, as a new dancer. And he wanted he he made an offer. He was like, look, I just lost my wife. I just want to take someone's shopping. I took her shopping for the last 30 years or something. 50, whatever. It was his. And he said he missed the feeling of taking a woman in the mall and going shopping.


00:28:45:21 - 00:29:05:22

Xena

So I. And this was I was new and I was like, okay, very nervous. But he was such a sweet, older guy. And I do like older guys. I just want to mention that, so that was when I realized when he took me out shopping and, buy me all these things and was such a sweetheart about it.


00:29:05:22 - 00:29:15:10

Xena

And I was like, wow, this is really turning me on. And he didn't want to have sex at all, but I wanted to after I was like, well, like, I'll turn it on. And like, generosity.


00:29:15:10 - 00:29:25:01

Luna

Is such a turn. Was it like you picked out the things or did he pick them? I have a big fantasy of, like, someone just dressing me up like a doll because I'm not very close. You have a good sense of style. But what was I.


00:29:25:01 - 00:29:42:16

Xena

Always felt like, I. I just throw things together and I always, I really have I always feel like I have a chaotic style. I'm just throwing things together. I'm like, please dress me because I feel like a mess. But, no, I did pick it all out. So he did. He he enjoyed watching, you know me pick everything out and show it to him.


00:29:42:17 - 00:29:43:14

Luna

Would you, like, try it on.


00:29:43:14 - 00:29:45:17

Xena

In the bathroom and then come. I want to.


00:29:45:19 - 00:29:52:15

Luna

See. I want to do that. But then I'm like, I would like a dressing room. Whether or not paying that close of attention. And then I can pull him inside and be like.


00:29:52:17 - 00:29:53:09

Xena

You know.


00:29:53:11 - 00:29:59:12

Luna

Speak little like I was in places. But like, I know, I know, dressing rooms are very like they don't want that to happen. But I'm like.


00:29:59:13 - 00:30:10:02

Xena

Yeah, I think you seen a lot of looks. I do look small, like a baby. And I'm always like the older guys. Oh, that's where the no shame thing. I'm glad I don't have this. Oh, yeah.


00:30:10:04 - 00:30:11:22

Luna

I mean, comments to you.


00:30:12:00 - 00:30:23:18

Xena

It's just a lot of staring. And the. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Just, you know, but, and then maybe a little comments from waitresses and stuff, like, okay.


00:30:23:20 - 00:30:39:23

Luna

I was out to lunch with one of my girlfriends and her guy, who is, like, significantly older, and they were like holding hands while we were waiting for the valet. And like, another lady standing there was like, how do you all know each other? And my friend just looked her dead in the eye and went, we're friends.


00:30:40:01 - 00:30:59:06

Xena

You know? And I was like, yeah, we're all good friends. Yes. I, you know, I have had, older woman come and say mentioned like, isn't you too young or really, you know. Yeah. It's do you feel like a child of, like, of age?


00:30:59:08 - 00:31:04:00

Luna

So you say, do you say anything back or just ignore them? Or are you like, what is the right. Yeah, I'm trying.


00:31:04:00 - 00:31:07:16

Xena

To were them, you know, usually in these interactions is oh my goodness, I'm sorry.


00:31:07:17 - 00:31:10:23

Luna

Did you just say I'm different?


00:31:11:00 - 00:31:28:02

Xena

Where would I say bad memory? No. That's okay. Especially when it's not pleasant memories. I'm just like, let it go. No. Okay. It takes me a moment to remember. Like, what are those nasty things they said? I just I always slides out of my mind immediately when they come up saying things. I'm like, okay, I think that's.


00:31:28:06 - 00:31:42:19

Luna

Actually like a really healthy, helpful way to do it. Okay, so stripper era, what were your favorite like? Were there stand out sexy moments? Were you already a dancer? Like, do you feel in touch with your body when you're dancing? Like what stands out from that era? What did you learn about your sexy self?


00:31:42:21 - 00:32:01:12

Xena

So yeah, so I've always been a dancer, growing up in a Hispanic household, we always had parties and, you know, the bachata and salsa, even though we didn't have classes, you just. There's so many people dancing. People grab you up and you're just fine. You do the best you can until you learn. So I've always had, you know, I've always been a dancer.


00:32:01:14 - 00:32:15:12

Xena

So I felt like when I first went on stage, I wasn't as awkward as I could have been. I at least I knew how to talk. And so for the first couple months, I just. I got down on my knees and did the talk. I was like, I know how to do this move. And I did, over and twirled around.


00:32:15:12 - 00:32:30:02

Xena

I was like, I can twirl and twerk. And I did that. I did those two moves over and over until I could find out what to do. Because when you first get on stage, you're just so nervous. It's kind of hard to I would be you had to put together this whole dance routine every time they call your name.


00:32:30:02 - 00:32:30:15

Xena

You know.


00:32:30:17 - 00:32:47:08

Luna

I was going to be a stripper. Like, I have a pole there because I like winter strip classes, because I'm like, okay, I like cocktail surfing. I'm learning about sexiness. I will try to be a stripper. And then I took classes and I had such unsupportive teachers that were like, critical. And I was like, okay, I guess I'm not good enough to be a no no.


00:32:47:10 - 00:32:56:07

Xena

Well, I could teach you time. I used to teach in front of other ladies. I got so good at pole dancing that I started teaching other ladies how to do some homework. So I can definitely teach.


00:32:56:07 - 00:32:57:07

Luna

You a lot about lap dances.


00:32:57:07 - 00:33:13:09

Xena

Too. Oh, yeah. So, the first time I did a lap dance, I was lucky enough that I. It was a two girl lap dance. And she was older. She was like, so I was a seasoned stripper. So she knew exactly what she knew. Like, just like I know you're new, so don't worry. And she coached me through the whole thing.


00:33:13:09 - 00:33:25:04

Xena

She was like, all right, baby, what I want you to do is go really slow for us. Walk up to us very slow. And starting off slow is really good. Like, if you don't know what to do with lap dances, just go very slow, very, very slow. A lot of times.


00:33:25:06 - 00:33:26:03

Luna

Practicing going.


00:33:26:04 - 00:33:43:20

Xena

Slow. Yeah. Because your first instinct is just to go really fast and you're just like, okay, that's all. I have to slow myself. Yeah. Yeah, you get excited. So that was my problem. So I was glad she taught that. Like a wind up toy. I'm like, go. Yeah, yeah. So it's more about creating this then. Yeah.


00:33:43:20 - 00:34:02:13

Xena

You doing this? You're just. Yeah. Going very slow. Pretend you're making love with this person. You just have your clothes on. It's just like you're making love with your eyes, like. So just look them in their eye the whole time and just, you know, do a slow, sensual touches and climb on top. Just don't think about, you know, being sexy.


00:34:02:13 - 00:34:03:08

Xena

Just.


00:34:03:10 - 00:34:04:16

Luna

Just be high.


00:34:04:18 - 00:34:16:23

Xena

Yeah. It's just the eye work and moving slow until you figure out exactly what you want to do and how you want to do it. And from there, you can play around. But going super slow at first really helps.


00:34:17:00 - 00:34:28:08

Luna

What was your favorite part about the strip club? Like this outfit? Was it dancing? Was it pole work? Was it floor work? Was it lap dances? Was connecting with people, or was it like a mixture of all of it? Like, what are the standout bits for you?


00:34:28:10 - 00:34:45:15

Xena

So connecting with people and pole work. And then I do love dressing up. I, but connecting with people, I love that, I love it. People are so interesting to me. I love the people watch and I love I'm like, what do you do with your life? Who are you? What are you thinking? What are your goals or your dreams?


00:34:45:19 - 00:34:49:14

Xena

So I do love, figuring out everyone I wish I could do it.


00:34:49:17 - 00:34:59:14

Luna

Was it look like my brain is my little autistic brain is like, how could you hear them? Like, was it was that, like, in lap dance moments? Or. They're, like, quieter places. I guess I'm just imagining the club is loud.


00:34:59:18 - 00:35:18:23

Xena

It is super loud. You sit really close to them. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Or you scream in the air. So it is loud and you are talking like, this is crazy. It's like. It's almost like how when I work at Sherry's, it's more like speed dating the ten minutes and switch off. Yeah. At a strip club, it feels more like you hang you.


00:35:19:01 - 00:35:34:17

Xena

You find someone and you hang out most of the night sometimes. So you can you jump around too. But a lot of times you do find someone, you end up hanging out that. So you get a boyfriend, a girlfriend. It feels like that. That's what was like, like I said, a speed dating. It's like you're on a date with someone for either half the night or, all night.


00:35:34:17 - 00:35:56:21

Xena

That depends, you know, on their budget or how much time they have. So, yeah, they felt more like that, though, you know, it just depends on the clubs. Yeah. Yeah. It could feel like speed dating. It's actually for clubs and you're going all around, you know, these people, but people will try to hang on to you, you know, like, like, don't leave me.


00:35:56:21 - 00:36:09:18

Xena

I'll give you more money. Stay here. I mean, because you know, you want to try to get to everyone. But more likely, I found that in the clubs, I would. You would just find someone who was like, no, you're with me for the rest of night. I love hanging out with you, like, hang out and party together first.


00:36:09:20 - 00:36:24:23

Luna

Yeah, I think that's so hot because I'm like, if you think I'm valuable, show me in a concrete way, like in my regular dating life right now, I'm just like. But what value would you bring? I know that you like to take tick, tick for me, but, like, what do you want to give in return? Like, where is the reciprocity here?


00:36:24:23 - 00:36:30:21

Luna

Like, you know, where's the balance? What? Okay, so. Oh, gosh, there's so many directions.


00:36:30:23 - 00:36:56:07

Xena

Oh, yeah. And then pole dancing. So connecting with people, pole dancing, I just I love it and I'm really fast. I've, I've been told to slow down by certain people, but, then I've been told by many, many that they love my energy on stage and they like it. And, I especially groups, so when men and women come in as a group, I realize that they're the most excited about all the pole tricks.


00:36:56:08 - 00:37:13:00

Xena

It's it's more like there's floor work and then there's floor work is the more sexy you feel like you're making love to salon, like, right there. So. But politics is more of, like, entertainment, so everyone has different styles. I like to switch off on both of them, but the poles are just so fun.


00:37:13:03 - 00:37:16:00

Luna

You can do.


00:37:16:01 - 00:37:36:00

Xena

I remember one time a client counted. I did seven pole tricks before I my heels touch the floor. He was like. He was like one, two. And. But I was really fit during my stripper years. Like I had abs. Strong. Yeah. Steel legs. I was like, wow, it's wrong. I'm more squishy now. So I probably only do three quarters.


00:37:36:02 - 00:37:47:19

Xena

And so my head until my feet hits the floor. But I can still do a lot of them. You know, I just I'm slowly getting back into it. That's super glad you have the pole. Yeah. Yeah. You a little bit now. I'm so excited.


00:37:47:21 - 00:37:56:00

Luna

You got so like, you love climbing up and then. So you, like, go all the way up and then what are you like basically you spending rent like what are the different. Yeah. So I don't even know.


00:37:56:02 - 00:38:15:00

Xena

I, you know, I don't know the names either. When you take classes, they teach you the names, but strippers call it like, they're like the upside down moon, where the fly, like the move or the thing above where you're doing is, you know, so that's how we, that's how strippers. Although now all these class is popping up, it's more likely you find that everyone's taking classes, so they're learning the names.


00:38:15:00 - 00:38:29:18

Xena

So, but, yeah, the hanging upside down. I like hooking my legs on, so I'll show you a certain move where I'm just hanging on by my knee. Basically, I have my back of the sideways to it, so. And I'm just hanging off with my whole body, and it's like a really good workout.


00:38:29:18 - 00:38:31:15

Luna

When I was wearing, like, thigh boots.


00:38:31:15 - 00:38:39:11

Xena

Yeah, because they're so sticky. The thigh boots really help. Yeah. As a new, pole dancer getting the boots. Yeah. Sorry.


00:38:39:13 - 00:38:41:11

Luna

I feel like like it's a polyvinyl.


00:38:41:11 - 00:38:50:17

Xena

Like you're. Yeah, it's. You know, what is it next to the pole? Yeah. So I really it really helps as a new pole dancer to get. Yeah. Boots instead of just the regular rotations.


00:38:50:18 - 00:38:52:12

Luna

From getting bruises.


00:38:52:14 - 00:38:53:22

Xena

Well, you're getting strong.


00:38:54:00 - 00:38:57:04

Luna

Did you ever stop getting bruises or would you always get bruises from pole?


00:38:57:06 - 00:39:15:12

Xena

So I got I got them a lot. You get them a lot as a new stripper. But the more you go on, it just depends if you're having a really. Okay. Did a really rough night, I guess, where your knees and everything. So. But I've always gotten bruises, but sometimes I'm like, get used to that. Yeah.


00:39:15:14 - 00:39:17:14

Xena

If I took a break and went back, then they're like, wow.


00:39:17:15 - 00:39:29:09

Luna

I was just to say, it's like that for me with spanking. Like if I'm getting regular spankings to like impact, like it's like marks, then like it's like less and less or they have to hit me harder and harder. And then if there's a little break, then I'm like, oh, I can get a purple bottom pretty easy. Yeah.


00:39:29:11 - 00:39:41:18

Xena

So you're starting to get used to it. But I do love bruises. So I was yeah, I took a lot of pictures. I probably documented my surfer bruises all through the years. I just loved it. I'm like, yes. I don't know any color on the skin. Like, oh, so pretty.


00:39:41:23 - 00:39:48:10

Luna

Okay. Outfits wise. Like, what do you think is the sexiest for you? Like, what's your style? Like, what did you like love wearing or what do you like wearing now?


00:39:48:10 - 00:40:06:18

Xena

So, in that era, I was big, like, I wear glasses, so I would go for the school girl. Look. But I would wear, like, a bedazzled, tie, so it's like a bedazzled tie with my glasses and long socks. And it was, like, my best look, because I just felt like it went with me. With the glasses.


00:40:06:18 - 00:40:29:18

Xena

I was able to get away with wearing glasses every night because I can make it sexy, you know? I can, So, yeah, the school wore off. It would be the coolest one as. Yeah, during my sobriety. Now, though, I do love the goddess. Look, the, into Xena the Warrior Princess. So I do love goddess warrior look.


00:40:29:18 - 00:40:33:05

Xena

So I do try to aim for that now. Or.


00:40:33:07 - 00:40:42:10

Luna

Okay. So what was your transition like from stripping to working at Sherry's? Like, was there anything in between? Did you go straight from one to the other? Like, what was that kind of like like for you?


00:40:42:14 - 00:41:04:06

Xena

So I did try, when I was done stripping, when I retired, I was like, I'm done with the sex business. Actually, yes, I, I maybe I got a burnout because of talking to so many people every night and the strip club environment. I'm not a club party or purchase like I'm not a clubhouse. Yes. It wasn't someone who was just like, you know.


00:41:04:06 - 00:41:25:05

Xena

So you're in the club every day. All day. It's your job. So I think I just experienced burnout and I thought I wouldn't like it anymore. So I did get regular jobs. I got an office job, for two years, I cultivated cannabis, and then I started teaching people how to cultivate cannabis and healing hydroponics and stuff like that.


00:41:25:05 - 00:41:41:16

Xena

So I. Yeah, I can get really into that. There was a time where I could not like, I was so into cultivating cannabis that I couldn't, like, have a conversation with someone without. If it wasn't about cannabis, I'm like, I don't know, I prefer it. So yeah, I kept driving it. It was like, and it was like, oh, you talk about plants, dude.


00:41:41:19 - 00:41:43:20

Xena

That's been meet me with sex for a.


00:41:43:20 - 00:41:51:02

Luna

Minute and like, I need to like sex and or neuroscience as it relates to sex. I'm like, oh, I need to broaden my horizons.


00:41:51:04 - 00:41:52:20

Xena

Dude. Okay. Do you feel like there.


00:41:52:20 - 00:42:02:10

Luna

Is a connection between, like, sexy sluts and stoners? Like, I feel like there's like a sensuality element that's a through line. I did you notice that? Like.


00:42:02:12 - 00:42:07:03

Xena

Yeah, you're like, yeah.


00:42:07:05 - 00:42:09:11

Luna

So were you still getting laid during that time?


00:42:09:13 - 00:42:27:06

Xena

Actually can to say when I stopped. So as a stripper, you get so many offers like I had, it was a year of couples. So as a stripper, I had couples all the time. I feel like a threesome queen. There's, like, I love my couples, so, So, yeah, I was getting all these offers, and you're having this amazing sex life.


00:42:27:06 - 00:42:49:01

Xena

Your coworkers. Then I stopped stripping. I had no sex life. No dating life for three years. 3 to 5 years. Five years, five years. There was nothing. Nothing. And I was dying because I'm a very sexual person. Yeah, yeah, a little info. I'm. I was masturbating so much. Okay, so this is, it's not the same because it's not the whole years.


00:42:49:01 - 00:43:04:06

Xena

Yeah. I was like, why? I'm like, I should be able to I was I was so confused. I realize like, okay, now act so you have to get out there and start dating. Sites are trying because I did have to try and it did make me feel like, oh, okay, that's.


00:43:04:08 - 00:43:19:15

Luna

Such a good point. I had not thought about until because I'm like, what did I used to meet people at auditions, at acting classes? Like I used to be out in the world more. And since I started doing podcasting stuff and photography, like, I mean, I try not to fuck all my photography clients, but like, I mean, when there's a vibe, there's a vibe, you know.


00:43:19:17 - 00:43:22:06

Xena

Like some adults, it's like, yeah. And my lawyer.


00:43:22:06 - 00:43:33:18

Luna

Is like, as long as you're not doing it during the work, that's okay. You know, like, especially if you're doing a hobby, stuff like that, you know. But like but it is different. Like when I was a bartender, it was like it's phone numbers left and right. And sometimes they were good.


00:43:33:18 - 00:43:39:12

Xena

You kind of forget how like, yeah, how easy it just in. So in normal life people. Yeah.


00:43:39:14 - 00:43:56:03

Luna

Well they do but those are scum like I mean like, I have, like walking around my place in the city, like I do 1 to 3 times a week. I mean, I, I've had, I've had like a month of dudes pulling their car over and I always talk to people because I'm like, are you lost? Do you need directions?


00:43:56:08 - 00:44:12:21

Luna

Like so I check in first and then when they're just like, I know. And then when they were trying to hit me up for my phone number, then I get like aggressive and I'm like, I need to just ignore them and leave because one day they're going to like, get aggressive. Yeah. But like, but like I'm just like, dude, that's never going to work.


00:44:12:23 - 00:44:18:23

Xena

Like no. Yeah. Those are good quality because I guess they're not.


00:44:19:01 - 00:44:32:23

Luna

However, my fantasy of meeting someone in a grocery store, I'm like, yes, nurture me, mommy or daddy, like, you want to buy my groceries. You want to take me shopping? We want to look either cross the apples like, yeah, I'll do that, you know? But, okay, so you so did you date during that time?


00:44:32:23 - 00:44:48:22

Xena

Did you get no dating? No sex? It was. This is actually why I started working at Sheri's. I was I couldn't take it anymore. I was at my office job. I feel like I had a so for women to masturbate, it's a lot different than men. Like, I can't just pop in the bathroom. And, I mean, I could it just not come to you?


00:44:49:00 - 00:45:01:05

Xena

I want to lay down. Yeah, I like, I like to lay down. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, and I got to a point I just feeling so horny all day. And I feel like I was taking all these breaks and excuses to run back home. The master I was, I.


00:45:01:05 - 00:45:11:08

Luna

Was just having fun. I was just having a vision of like, you know, I have, like, the rooms for nursing mothers and like, they need to have, like, nap pods for like, quiet meditation time. Or I can just, like.


00:45:11:08 - 00:45:12:01

Xena

Sneak away.


00:45:12:01 - 00:45:17:07

Luna

And have some privacy. I think productivity would increase.


00:45:17:09 - 00:45:39:03

Xena

Yeah. I'm just like, I'm a lot more pleasant but very pleasant person. But after years, yeah, you know, no sex. It was just really hard. And I did try to get on dating apps. It just it didn't really work out. So it was like, I feel really bad for, you know, people outside the sex workers. I'm like, how are y'all doing?


00:45:39:05 - 00:45:40:01

Xena

So, like.


00:45:40:03 - 00:45:45:08

Luna

You're like, wait a minute. There's a job where I could get money and have my problems.


00:45:45:10 - 00:46:04:20

Xena

You know? So, so that's how I landed at cherries. I was like, you know what? Let me get back into the sex business. I realize I didn't want to strip anymore. Not full time. At least I. I can see myself maybe going back for, like, a fun weekend with friends. Sure, sure. But yeah. So I wanted to figure out how to do it.


00:46:04:22 - 00:46:22:22

Xena

That's. So I came across the brothels. I didn't want to be a stripper. I was worried about independent work. I have friends who do it, but, you know, I'm small, and I'm like, I'm scared. I'm like a small. I'm easily, you know.


00:46:23:00 - 00:46:39:03

Xena

The two small, tiny. I need a place I can't even go. So, Yeah, I felt a lot more comfortable to do it that way. To go to the ranch. And I was so happy. Every time I get there, like, were.


00:46:39:03 - 00:46:41:17

Luna

You nervous beforehand or, like, were you just saw. I mean.


00:46:41:19 - 00:47:03:12

Xena

You looked at the website nervous? Because you think brothel. You don't know what to expect. Yeah. Going to get there. And what is it? And it's the complete opposite. It's, We were saying early, like summer camp, hot girl, summer camp. So, so glad it did not turn out. I honestly, I was like, I'm just going to try it.


00:47:03:12 - 00:47:09:17

Xena

In my mind, I thought I was probably going to fly back home, and but I wanted to really try to like. Yeah, but you never know.


00:47:09:21 - 00:47:11:06

Luna

Such a good bucket list thing.


00:47:11:11 - 00:47:18:02

Xena

Yes. So. Yeah. And, I do like trying new jobs, and I'm someone I kind of want to do every job just to figure out how they work.


00:47:18:02 - 00:47:20:17

Luna

Oh my God, me too, me too. I'm like.


00:47:20:18 - 00:47:31:19

Xena

I'm not sure. You know, like, I worked at a body shop. Just a I got, got my car done one time and I was like, I wonder what's I don't know, I just had all these, like, work for a couple months on about it.


00:47:31:22 - 00:47:38:15

Luna

I'm always like, looking into construction sites and being, like, attract. Like I want to use the drill. I no.


00:47:38:16 - 00:47:42:23

Xena

I want to know. I want to be in the. Yeah, yeah, I got it two years.


00:47:43:01 - 00:47:48:05

Luna

So cool. Okay. So you but you like, did you know right away that you liked it. What was it like for you going there. How long have you been doing it?


00:47:48:07 - 00:48:12:14

Xena

A year now. Okay. So my first week there, I knew I immediately loved it. Like I immediately I was like, this is like so great there. Like free food. Immediately when I got there, I was greeted by like, like a few of the women and the doctors office area. And they were just so friendly and bubbly.


00:48:12:20 - 00:48:27:22

Xena

It was a lot. It was the opposite of sometimes at the strip club, it can get a little, I don't know, like, I was worried that when I went into the brothel, I would have to keep to myself. That might be, what's a good word?


00:48:27:22 - 00:48:28:15

Luna

Like competition.


00:48:28:15 - 00:48:50:12

Xena

Vibes? Yes, there was a lot of competition, but, And the surf club, and it could get it just the whole mess. Like, So it's sometimes it's good to keep to yourself in certain businesses. So I was worried about that. But when I got there, I realized I was not the vibe, that everyone was super friendly and we all have like our special interests that we love to share with each other.


00:48:50:12 - 00:49:10:01

Xena

And a lot of times they align. So, so, it just, it just I was very comfortable there my first week, and I was having fun. I my first client, it was just a massage party. And he went to massage me and I was like, what is this? Please. Thank you for being here. I thought it was mattress on the floor.


00:49:10:01 - 00:49:32:04

Xena

We're gonna have I don't know what I thought I was like, I'm probably going to leave immediately, but. And then it turned out to be like, this great thing, a beautiful room where he was just massaging me in, and then, and then. Yeah. Yeah, I knew I loved it. Immediately I went to the office and I was like, so, how old will y'all decide if y'all want me or not?


00:49:32:04 - 00:49:49:11

Xena

Because I don't want to leave, and they're like, you can actually get a bucket now. You're, We think you will work well here. So I was actually worried by the end of the week that they wouldn't want me. I don't know. Yeah, I was like, I was just so excited to work there that I was afraid that, yeah, they actually wouldn't want me instead of the opposite.


00:49:49:13 - 00:50:04:03

Xena

So I'm glad I can I stay? Yes. It's like getting a massage night cuz you say you're forever. I was like, if I could just move my dogs and I would be there forever. I mean, the first year feels like that. It's like you want to just stay there. Yeah. Yeah.


00:50:04:05 - 00:50:11:23

Luna

So okay so tell us a little bit about the fantasies you teased us with in the beginning. I mean we've talked about lining clips up. Is that something you've done at the brothel or is that like more private lives.


00:50:12:01 - 00:50:34:01

Xena

So I had a couple come in and when they got naked, her husband was like, wow, your pussy looked exactly like. And we looked down. They did it. We had almost like, I've never I always thought it's like snowflakes. Everyone. They're different. Like, you know, no one, no one pussy is the same. Like one, no one. But they were exact.


00:50:34:05 - 00:50:44:00

Xena

And we proceeded to have the best oh, my scissoring session. We actually end up leaving him out, but he was excited for us. We just energetically he also he.


00:50:44:00 - 00:50:45:18

Luna

Noticed what a good.


00:50:45:19 - 00:51:03:21

Xena

Boy wow y'all have. And I was like oh yes. And then it wasn't until later when we started doing The Scissoring that I realized that, like, maybe because I was like, maybe when the clicks align, that's when I started thinking about the clicks a lot. Like, maybe if you find your perfect.


00:51:03:23 - 00:51:04:07

Xena

It's like.


00:51:04:10 - 00:51:06:23

Luna

It's like when magnets are just like, they're just like the right place.


00:51:07:02 - 00:51:24:11

Xena

Yeah. So we easily. And it was like it was like they worked no matter what we did, we're like, wow, this is like, And so other ones are like with, other women, you really have to, you know, you have to find like this or and but with her, I found that it was it was like, so great.


00:51:24:12 - 00:51:28:04

Xena

So the more you like, the more you, can just want.


00:51:28:04 - 00:51:30:12

Luna

To make sure I'm understanding correctly. You could, like, scissor to come.


00:51:30:16 - 00:51:31:15

Xena

Yes.


00:51:31:17 - 00:51:34:04

Luna

Yes, you can come from external alone.


00:51:34:06 - 00:51:35:03

Xena

Yes. Is it like.


00:51:35:03 - 00:51:45:21

Luna

Do you mind if I ask specific questions? Like? Like is it like lots of pressure, little pressure? Does it just depend on how much lube and how turned on you are? Is it all sorts of ways like what's your what are your scissor comes like?


00:51:45:23 - 00:52:01:05

Xena

So it, it's it has to be wetness. They're lube. It really helps. How turned on I am I am I honestly yeah. Just how turned on I, you know pressure to does help, but, Yes, I'm very sensitive. My clit is so.


00:52:01:07 - 00:52:02:07

Luna

Mine too, so.


00:52:02:07 - 00:52:03:05

Xena

I don't I.


00:52:03:06 - 00:52:07:05

Luna

Could I don't have a big head, so like. Yeah, like the clip suckers. I'm like.


00:52:07:06 - 00:52:25:13

Xena

Deserve. I'm like, oh my God. Yeah, I'll jump out of this thing. You just like put you're like toy up there. The rest of your body feels really good, but it's almost like it's too much. Yeah, yeah, it's a little. So I actually just started getting into vibrators because I'm like, it's like I got it. It's a slow.


00:52:25:15 - 00:52:28:01

Luna

Do you have any favorite or any on your wish list?


00:52:28:06 - 00:52:43:14

Xena

I do have a favorite. It's a vibrating tentacle, and I actually find that it's a perfect shaped. I bring it out with every, woman I give it to. I like. We're going to try this today. They're like, what? But then they all say that they love it, too. So the vibrating tentacle is. Yeah, it's my favorite.


00:52:43:14 - 00:52:56:12

Xena

And everyone I had a couple recently, it came in. They're older and they had kids and they said they they would have never looked at that toy and thought to buy it, but they will look it up now. So like you need to get an affiliate link for that.


00:52:56:13 - 00:52:58:21

Luna

And you like this is my favorite.


00:52:58:21 - 00:53:19:07

Xena

Part about getting everyone to try it. It's just such a perfect shape. I wish I brought it with me, it just that the way it like goes on to you and it's thick, so scissoring with it helps so you can just, you know, it's like really thick that. Yeah. Yeah. You really oh I love this okay. And it makes cool night like you when you put lube on it and go like this it makes is very pleasing.


00:53:19:07 - 00:53:20:14

Luna

What do you mean tentacle noises.


00:53:20:14 - 00:53:27:23

Xena

So, Yeah. Have you you never watched the tentacle porn? Have you ever gotten to tentacle foreigner? No, I have watched it. You?


00:53:28:00 - 00:53:30:05

Luna

I interviewed people who tell me about it, but I have.


00:53:30:05 - 00:53:32:19

Xena

Like, such a long list of to watch. But I have to get into.


00:53:32:22 - 00:53:33:20

Luna

I'm open to.


00:53:33:22 - 00:53:48:15

Xena

So it just sounds like this tentacle monster coming at you. It's like the suction, like. But. Oh, it's something. So I always do that for people right before I use it. I like when I put the lube on, I'm like, yeah, we like to do like, this is coming for you. You know? I'm like, we do. Yeah.


00:53:48:15 - 00:53:53:19

Luna

Tell people no, because I like I feel like there are clients that are probably dying to have that experience.


00:53:53:21 - 00:54:08:04

Xena

Yes. I'm like, I'm like, now imagine it's coming for you. Oh my gosh. And then you can this and then yeah, you slide it down, you know, do the little tentacle thing. The term best. Okay.


00:54:08:06 - 00:54:20:09

Luna

That's so wow okay. So schoolgirl fantasies and playland and teacher, do you prefer being a schoolgirl or a teacher because you really have now taken your, like, stripper school girl to the next level?


00:54:20:09 - 00:54:41:18

Xena

Like, literally, like I love being, the bratty schoolgirl. I really, I realize I'm a very nice person, so it's like, okay. But I do realize I like being a little bratty and that that certain role, it's hard for me to be that way. I don't know, I feel bad, but I can get into what kind of.


00:54:41:20 - 00:54:46:01

Luna

Like, what kind of brat is fun for you. And it's a different if you're alone versus with a girlfriend.


00:54:46:03 - 00:55:00:13

Xena

Oh yes. I feel like with this fantasy, it always helps to have. It's a classroom, so you feel like you have to fill up at least a couple more seats with the ladies. Yeah, you really do. It just really helps it. It really sets. It's like a real. This is really nerdy. This is a real classroom situation.


00:55:00:13 - 00:55:20:00

Xena

So, those are always my favorite. But, but then also being the teacher, I do like, being. So these are probably roles I like to be dominating. And I just realized I was, like, clicking them. I'm like, wait a minute. Because on both roles I do like, yeah, I rather I'm the bratty student or the, mean teacher.


00:55:20:01 - 00:55:21:19

Luna

I like bossy, like bossy student.


00:55:21:23 - 00:55:32:09

Xena

So yeah, we're looking for the role fantasy. The bossy. Oh, I like bossy. But yeah. Actually. Yeah.


00:55:32:11 - 00:55:49:10

Luna

Are there details you can share with us, for example? Like, have you done it, like on a desk or in a swivel chair? Been to someone over a desk or like and like, do you would you ever combine your strap fantasy of picking a guy with the schoolgirl things, or is that separate or there? Like, do you get to make it?


00:55:49:10 - 00:55:55:07

Luna

I mean, I don't know, tell us whatever has either happened that you love or what you still want to achieve. Schoolgirl life.


00:55:55:09 - 00:56:17:12

Xena

Yes I do, I would love to, put a guy in the corner with his little no no hands that you're like, oh, I want to do. Oh, I do not like that. You're going to watch me and you're going to watch how I please myself as maybe like a lesson I could give him. Like a today we're having a sex ed lesson, and all you boys.


00:56:17:14 - 00:56:19:07

Xena

Oh, let me be.


00:56:19:09 - 00:56:27:11

Luna

The best bachelor party ever. Oh, my God, have you ever had, like, a fantastic. Like, have you ever had, like, a group of guys come in and play with a group of lady friends?


00:56:27:13 - 00:56:41:00

Xena

I know I have not yet. Okay. Yes, I've. There was a negotiation, but, everyone couldn't agree and they end up splitting off okay. With each lady. But that would be so. So. Ooh.


00:56:41:03 - 00:56:43:21

Luna

Okay. I'm loving it. So. Okay, so a guy has to watch, give.


00:56:43:21 - 00:56:49:10

Xena

Lessons with, you know, at the ranch, there has to be the same amount of women as men. So I feel like some or.


00:56:49:10 - 00:56:50:02

Luna

More women.


00:56:50:02 - 00:57:06:23

Xena

Are more. Yeah, more. I know these rules. So sometimes, even though I do get groups, they're like, no, we just want you in the room. And I'm like, no, that's not that's doesn't happen here. So that's the only reason it hasn't really worked out. But, yeah, it's going to happen. Ooh, I know there's going to be the who comes in who wants a group of miles.


00:57:07:00 - 00:57:08:00

Xena

Oh my God.


00:57:08:02 - 00:57:15:16

Luna

I like when people want specialty outfits and stuff like that. Like, do you already have outfits on hand or you, like, please bring me the outfit. Do you want to see me?


00:57:15:16 - 00:57:34:05

Xena

And I have many outfits. I do love to dress up. And this is so funny. I've had outfits before working at the ranch. This I wasn't even. I gathered all these costumes. You were building my, office area, like, in my 9 to 5 offices of not being a stripper. No, I was gathering all these sexy outfits.


00:57:34:05 - 00:57:36:01

Xena

Just kind of. I like dressing even darker.


00:57:36:02 - 00:57:39:13

Luna

Pretty subconscious is like, I'm preparing, I'm preparing.


00:57:39:13 - 00:57:59:05

Xena

And this whole bucket, I was like, oh, I never could wear them out. Why do I have these? You know? And here I look at the Bronco. I'm like, well, I have everything. But I do encourage people to like, if they see something that they really like to bring it in, I'll wear it for them because there are clients who brought me something like, I just I saw this dress and I imagined doing it, and I just, I need it on you.


00:57:59:05 - 00:58:00:06

Xena

And I'm like, yes.


00:58:00:08 - 00:58:19:09

Luna

But okay. I would love to learn more about strapping dudes. Okay. I've only pegged a guy once, but it wasn't with a proper strap. It was like the double ended dildo. So it was like kind of hard to control. And I want to peg them or, you know, if I'm willing. But I've stuck a lot of fingers up butts and played with toys, but, like, it sounds like you are like a strap.


00:58:19:14 - 00:58:24:03

Luna

Yeah. It's not a strap skirt. A chest strap expert.


00:58:24:05 - 00:58:43:12

Xena

You know, I find people's favorite is the Amazon position. So it's the guy. So now it's like, you know, when you lay on your back and you put your legs up. Yeah. I basically have the man like that. You put him on his back, you put his legs back and you're on top, and you're just like coming down on him like this.


00:58:43:14 - 00:58:53:06

Xena

You can actually try this without a strap, too. He can be inside of you while you do that. Like. But what? The strap is also really, you know, it's fun for you. It's like you're going inside him when you have the strap on.


00:58:53:08 - 00:58:54:12

Luna

If I hold his legs up.


00:58:54:18 - 00:58:55:04

Xena

You hold it.


00:58:55:10 - 00:58:55:17

Luna

And then.


00:58:55:18 - 00:59:12:06

Xena

Lay him on the back. Yeah, you lay him on his back, you pull his legs up and you're like, squatting over him. You know? You're like thighs are on either side, and then you're just going down basically. Oh, you're like, on your knees. It's going to be a lot of knee work. I can do it. Ready?


00:59:12:07 - 00:59:18:15

Luna

Excellent exploits. Like my chiropractor says, it's because I am like naturally built that way. But like I can do do.


00:59:18:17 - 00:59:18:21

Xena

Feet.


00:59:18:21 - 00:59:33:08

Luna

Together straight down and up, feet wide, straight down and up like I can squat. Yeah. And and the better in shape that I've gotten, the longer I can like, I can basically fuck anyone for as long as I want you. Because I only recently used a strap with a because the owner for the first time, like in January.


00:59:33:10 - 00:59:33:18

Luna

Yeah.


00:59:33:18 - 00:59:34:13

Xena

Since he was.


00:59:34:13 - 00:59:37:10

Luna

So high and I was like, maybe I can fuck you as long as.


00:59:37:12 - 00:59:39:10

Xena

That's how I got the shirt, I got that. Yeah.


00:59:39:10 - 00:59:48:06

Luna

And I'm like, I have the knees, I the the have the thighs, like I have all of it. And so I'm like, I just want to put these skills. Okay. So you're, you're going like straight down. Yeah.


00:59:48:06 - 01:00:03:08

Xena

Straight down. So that would be a great position for you if you could do that. Because I find for myself that, I think after an hour my knees are like, oh, don't tell me I'm done it for a whole hour. And I think I was like, oh, okay, I can do this for an hour. I did that same position.


01:00:03:08 - 01:00:14:00

Xena

He just wanted that position for the whole hour. I really feel like men love this position. So with the strap on, yeah, you're entering him and you're on top, and it's just like a nice bouncy bounce for you know, him.


01:00:14:02 - 01:00:26:05

Luna

Do you have, like, different sizes of dildos for them to choose from or are they like to like have you done it to first timers? Because I imagine that there are probably some people who come in who like watch porn, and maybe their eyes are a little bit bigger than their metaphorical stomach.


01:00:26:06 - 01:00:33:16

Xena

In the beginning, actually, I only had big ones.


01:00:33:18 - 01:00:36:00

Xena

And I just they're.


01:00:36:02 - 01:00:38:14

Luna

Like, sorry. So this is a big boy.


01:00:38:16 - 01:01:03:00

Xena

And you're going to take it? Yeah. Mama, did it raise just using all those little activities like you bend over and take it. But, I did start, I did, I then got a client who was new and really nervous about it. So after that, I learned to get a variety of sizes. So I do offer now a variety of different sizes.


01:01:03:02 - 01:01:17:17

Xena

The best thing though, when one time a client came in and I was like, yeah, everyone's usually afraid of the big ones. You know, here's the other ones. And then he proceeds to pull out a one bigger than anything. And he's like, yeah, we're going to be using this. And I was like, yeah, was so hard.


01:01:17:19 - 01:01:34:20

Xena

Oh my God. And we use that. And now it was really hot. I was like, okay, so it can well and also I want to say I'm not going to judge anyone based on what size they want. No it's up. Everyone's preferred. Yeah. Whatever. You know anyone likes I know I like average.


01:01:34:20 - 01:01:44:22

Luna

I just think variety. So what I love and I love, I love feeling stretched. And so I love it if someone wants to feel stretched but also small, like I'm never going to be, I'm like, whatever feels good is the best thing.


01:01:45:01 - 01:01:47:01

Xena

Yeah. Wow.


01:01:47:03 - 01:02:01:16

Luna

Okay, anything else we need to know about the brothel? Or, like, either like Fantasy Bucket List or in your personal life, but, like, what else would you love to do? What else have you done and loved? People are always asking me like, what is a girlfriend experience like? What else feels like relevant or fun to share? Yeah.


01:02:01:16 - 01:02:20:06

Xena

So, the girlfriend experience, because people do ask that a lot. It's like you're okay. So it's basically like we're going on a date, and we can start it off with I start it's a slow party. Basically. It's like a party with time. And I do. I don't like to rush into the sex. So a girlfriend experiences.


01:02:20:06 - 01:02:44:06

Xena

We're not going to fling off our clothes. And immediately I want, I try to build a connection first, so I will do exchange massages. I'll give you a sexy lap dance. You know, I actually go all clients in a party, a lap dance, because I used to be a stripper. So, like, I start off every party with a little my lap dance like a lucky client, and then from there, we can do an exchange massage.


01:02:44:06 - 01:03:12:04

Xena

It really helps people get comfortable with, new person's body and being naked with a stranger. And then from there, we're chatting, having drinks. We can either have a meal together, we'll sit down and eat together or go into the hot tub, have, like, a little champagne bath. So I do have a lot of things on the itinerary for the girlfriend experience, but I do check in with the client to see if that's something they want.


01:03:12:04 - 01:03:15:11

Xena

Some people do not like hot water, so they don't want to sit in the hot tub.


01:03:15:11 - 01:03:24:13

Luna

So whenever I meet someone who doesn't like a hot tub or food, I'm like, okay, okay, you must be a fire sign. Fire and air. Okay.


01:03:24:15 - 01:03:28:02

Xena

Like, are you sure? And, like, I promise we won't. It's a sweet couple minutes.


01:03:28:02 - 01:03:30:20

Luna

I'd like, but what about melting and being cozy and eating?


01:03:30:20 - 01:03:33:18

Xena

Okay, okay, fine.


01:03:33:20 - 01:03:51:15

Luna

What if you feed me a burger while I'm in the hot tub, though? Yeah, that's my fantasy of the week. I was like, with my family traveling this week, and I. I don't know what. Like, my sister is opening up a new restaurant and there is a pool connected to this, like, luxury apartment complex next to it. And I started to think I could get a burger and go in the hot tub.


01:03:51:15 - 01:04:03:11

Luna

And that's like, no, that's it. Like the answer is no. But like all week long, I've just been thinking like, but now what if someone fed me a burger and I would, I would lean out. I wouldn't get lettuce or anything in the hot tub, you know, like, but like, I'm like, now I want something.


01:04:03:11 - 01:04:12:16

Xena

I'm gonna add that now. Like, hey, wait a minute. You don't have to get in with me. But we do have this platter of fruit, and you can feed me.


01:04:12:18 - 01:04:15:19

Luna

Well, especially if you're leaning into goddess love. Me. Yes.


01:04:15:19 - 01:04:35:03

Xena

Oh, them. So, you know, maybe they would enjoy that. Okay. Okay. Okay. So you have your itinerary. You have, like, a menu of no, I just, I'll make sure we're always flowing. And I constantly check in. Is this an activity you want to do? Or we'll move on to something else? Yeah, yeah, I do try to build a little bit connection, before we get into sex.


01:04:35:03 - 01:04:55:02

Xena

And there is going to be a lot of sex. Some people are worried that they're like, I like too much. It's not going to be. I'm checking in. I'm always the perv. Not going to talk your head off for an hour. We're not going to have sex. It's a perfect balance of perfect balance of finding that connection and then exploring each other's bodies and figuring out, what new things they want to try or what they never tried before.


01:04:55:02 - 01:05:10:12

Xena

And, having an intimate time together, you know, and then it can finish with if they didn't eat before. Sometimes people like, everyone enjoys eating afterwards. So afterwards I do too. We'll sit down and eat.


01:05:10:14 - 01:05:11:16

Luna

And you do refuel.


01:05:11:22 - 01:05:18:11

Xena

Yeah. So yeah, the girlfriend experience, it's like we're going on a date and you'll also get the.


01:05:18:12 - 01:05:19:12

Luna

Best third date.


01:05:19:12 - 01:05:21:04

Xena

Ever. So what?


01:05:21:06 - 01:05:26:03

Luna

What what are your favorite or ideal types of clients? Or just the type of people that you attract?


01:05:26:05 - 01:05:33:14

Xena

I do attract a lot of virgins and couples, and virgins of all ages. Yeah. Sometimes people think just. Yeah, and go, but virgins of all ages.


01:05:33:14 - 01:05:42:22

Luna

Yeah. Whenever someone's like. Like I get a lot of messages from listeners who were like, I'm ashamed. I'm a virgin in their 40s. And like, that's pretty normal. Yeah. It's like we live in a world where, like.


01:05:43:00 - 01:05:51:04

Xena

My virgins are older. Actually, some people like, they go straight into work and they forget, like, life goes by and you just don't.


01:05:51:04 - 01:05:59:11

Luna

Find the person. And then I know that, like, I mean, even in my teen years, I was like, I need to do it. And I got rejected the first four times. So it's like, yeah, sometimes it's hard.


01:05:59:11 - 01:06:23:00

Xena

Yeah, I was single for five years. And people, they're like, you're so cute. You probably have. You're like all these people. I'm like, you're like, you're like, this was like, I and. So, I'm a big pleaser. So when you're smiling a lie and you leave with a big smile. I really hope so. Those are always my best parties.


01:06:23:00 - 01:06:32:11

Xena

I just when we all have a good time. Yeah, but, yeah, I do attract a lot of the virgins and couples. And I'm like, those are my favorite.


01:06:32:13 - 01:06:38:06

Luna

Yeah. It seems like you have such good energy. I feel like you probably just magnetized sweetie pies. No.


01:06:38:08 - 01:06:43:15

Xena

Yes, yes, a sweet. Yeah, I get a lot of sweet clients. They're so sweet.


01:06:43:17 - 01:06:54:00

Luna

Okay. So personally and or professionally. So maybe in your personal life and or at the brothel, like, what are your sexual hopes for the future?


01:06:54:02 - 01:07:08:20

Xena

I hope, and I think is a big fantasy for a lot of the ladies at the brothel is that someone will call a line up. And as we all come out, they're like, you know what, I can't decide. I'll take them all. And we all had to play land.


01:07:08:22 - 01:07:12:16

Luna

The coolest classroom ever.


01:07:12:18 - 01:07:30:15

Xena

Yes, I love that classroom. I I'm determined. You know what? When I was new, when they brought me on a tour, they brought me to Playland, and, they said, you know, one time there was there was a full party here, like, it was a full classroom. And I think that's what made me like, think about that.


01:07:30:15 - 01:07:44:20

Xena

Ever since I'm like, I know. So I think that's like, focus on that fantasy now. I think that's a jumpstarted something. And I'm like, oh, I got that. This was a full classroom. Yes.


01:07:44:22 - 01:07:54:17

Luna

Okay. Lastly, if you could go back in time and give younger you a piece of sex advice, what age or ages would you pick and what would you say?


01:07:54:19 - 01:08:14:19

Xena

I would go back in time and say, wait until you're older. I feel like you enjoy sex a lot more when you're older. Feel like there was too many awkward, not non communication. Well not non communication. They communicate just I don't know, just, I would wait a little bit longer. I just feel like it was a lot better.


01:08:14:21 - 01:08:42:14

Xena

And, explore women more and, you know, because I did wait a long time until, you know, years, and by that pinnacle toy, I think you. Because I didn't experience it, experiment with toys for a long time. So I would definitely go back and you're like, you know what? Get those toys.


01:08:42:16 - 01:09:07:01

Luna

Oh, actually, I have two more fantasy questions I want to ask you for rapid. Okay, okay. Not lost. Okay. So, I do a lot of fantasizing. You know this about me. Okay. In a new future, in a world where everyone in the whole wide world has to serve their fellow mankind for at least two years as a sex worker, not stripper, not courtesan.


01:09:07:01 - 01:09:22:13

Luna

Some other sex work you haven't already been. How would you serve? And this is also in the in the in this fantasy world. It's covered by health insurance. So you get paid like high awesome wages no matter what. But if you had to pick a different type of sex work to to serve your fellow mankind for two years, what kind of would you do this.


01:09:22:19 - 01:09:32:23

Xena

Kind of sex work? And I can throw options money. Yeah.


01:09:33:01 - 01:09:44:10

Luna

Phone sex domination like regular surrogacy. You could work like as a madam, you erotic writers, peep show, like. Guess it's kind of like an erotic writer.


01:09:44:12 - 01:09:46:08

Xena

Oh, yeah. Like you didn't.


01:09:46:08 - 01:09:49:04

Luna

Tell me about your erotic. But can you tell us a little bit?


01:09:49:06 - 01:09:53:09

Xena

Yeah. Sounds a little bit. What do you want to know? Okay, so you read.


01:09:53:15 - 01:09:55:14

Luna

I called it smut, but you were like.


01:09:55:16 - 01:10:21:20

Xena

Yeah, yeah. So I write, smut online for a small cult following. I've been writing for ten years on this platform. And it's mostly queer. So either lesbian or gay, couples that I write about it just honestly, for many years, I would try to find a lot of queer books, whether gay, male or lesbian or bisexual.


01:10:21:20 - 01:10:35:03

Xena

And I just feel like I didn't find a lot. I just, I write what I wanted to read, basically, that's the way to do it. I was like, you know, I had it in my mind. I'm like, I really want to read this story that goes like this a smut book that goes like this. But I couldn't find anything.


01:10:35:05 - 01:10:47:02

Xena

So I was like, I guess I'm gonna have to sit down and write it. So I sat down to write. It was more for me. It's funny, but I did post it online. Just because I don't know, they're always like post more so.


01:10:47:04 - 01:11:11:08

Luna

And okay, so I have a fantasy of building a grand, grand place space. I don't know, it's like brothel meets educational museum, daytime play parties on the weekends in some legal way, where sex workers are also allowed to shepherd people into the next awesome being of their, like, sexuality. So in this grand palace of pleasure, what elements do you think I should include?


01:11:11:08 - 01:11:21:08

Luna

And or if you were in charge of designing it or had like a Xena room, what would it have in it? Like what does it definitely need to have unlimited budget tentacles.


01:11:21:08 - 01:11:30:07

Xena

We got to go to neutral toys, but the tentacles tentacle or model sectors, I think it definitely has to have sex shares.


01:11:30:10 - 01:11:34:08

Luna

Kind of like the hanging ones, like 200 chairs. Like what do you. What kind of six chairs?


01:11:34:12 - 01:11:43:14

Xena

Yeah, like the floor ones. Okay. So I recently used one in Playland. And I'm like, wow, you can do so many things on this. Two some musicians and it really help.


01:11:43:14 - 01:11:45:15

Luna

You can hold your things in many different.


01:11:45:17 - 01:11:55:20

Xena

Oh and then with either two people or you know, sometimes it just helps. So I think it would need that and lots of room. Yeah. Lube dispensers. Oh.


01:11:55:22 - 01:12:02:08

Luna

Okay. So like a room of different styles of sex chairs and lube everywhere. Maybe lube fountains.


01:12:02:08 - 01:12:04:09

Xena

Springing up next, you can.


01:12:04:11 - 01:12:05:00

Luna

Just be like.


01:12:05:00 - 01:12:08:09

Xena

Oh, maybe they've been ripping from the ceiling.


01:12:08:11 - 01:12:10:21

Luna

Maybe you could have, like, a laser pinpoint to like, a low.


01:12:10:21 - 01:12:18:10

Xena

Key, like, let's go to the lube room, get lubed up first, and then we'll head to the tentacle room to.


01:12:18:12 - 01:12:24:15

Luna

Drip along the way of to make sure other people don't slip.


01:12:24:17 - 01:12:29:12

Xena

I'm getting in the lube. Yeah. Oh, I love that.


01:12:29:13 - 01:12:47:01

Luna

Okay, we are here again with these Lina of Sheri's ranch. And please don't criticize my sound or on my phone. This is just an important update that we needed to include. And it has to do with Mina's specialty and favorite things. And I didn't realize we had this favorite thing in common.


01:12:47:03 - 01:13:10:04

Xena

So yes. I can't believe I forgot to add this, but I love giving blowjobs. Like really, really love them. It's one of my favorite things to do. I feel so sexy, especially when I slobber all over you. I'm really good at decoding. It's just something about a big oral fixation. So I love giving blowjob parties. I'm always like, if you're like, oh, we don't have to have it.


01:13:10:04 - 01:13:14:00

Xena

I'm like, no, please add it in there.


01:13:14:02 - 01:13:19:15

Luna

Can I ask you follow up questions? This do you like to choke on cocks?


01:13:19:17 - 01:13:31:01

Xena

Yes, I though I try not do, but, yes, I do love to choke. Well, I do have a choker tattoo on my neck, so that's a big.


01:13:31:03 - 01:13:46:08

Xena

You know, choker that goes actually back to, like, eating out with eating out women. And I like, you know, I love showing my face in there and kind of, like, sometimes I can't even breathe down there so long, but, yes, I do love to choke on it.


01:13:46:10 - 01:14:19:16

Luna

Xena's love of women really inspires me to pursue my lesbian parts even more, even though I'm very scared. But I think one of my favorite things is to observe. You like appreciating women, and we kind of, like, giggle about cute girls together. I have a follow up question now related to blowjobs. So we're talking about choking. Obviously, I should have said first that in context of choking, we want to make sure that we have permission from our partners to choke on their cocks just because we just because I like that doesn't mean that I want everyone to choke me right when they decide.


01:14:19:18 - 01:14:32:22

Luna

So how do you handle kind of like inviting clients to participate or not? Like, do you tell them to, like, lie still? I'm doing it. Do like if people face fuck you do communicate about it. So yes, I prefer.


01:14:32:22 - 01:14:48:05

Xena

To do it because I'm really good at it. So when someone grabs my head and starts, then I'm like, you know, now I feel like, yeah, I don't know. I like do it myself. So yeah. So I do enjoy that as long as we talk about it first. But when someone springs it on me, I'm like, whoa, it makes me spring back.


01:14:48:05 - 01:14:49:02

Xena

Like.


01:14:49:04 - 01:14:52:23

Luna

Did we talk about have you thrown up on a cock? Is that you have to talk about?


01:14:53:00 - 01:15:12:12

Xena

So there's one, for instance, and one position is where you lay on your back and your head is hanging backwards over the bed. You know what I'm talking about. I've, one time when I've done the position before, but one time I was drinking a little bit, and me and my partner did it, and I thought, well, we're him and I, and I was, and we were drinking.


01:15:12:12 - 01:15:23:14

Xena

So like, I try to wipe it off and keep going. He was like, no, we're gonna stop now. I was like, are you sure? I but we didn't finish it. And he's like, oh yeah, I think it was time to go to bed.


01:15:23:16 - 01:15:31:11

Luna

I've grown up on cocks, but not like outwardly, like it's always, I guess it's not quite. It's like where it's like coming up and you stop it.


01:15:31:12 - 01:15:46:06

Xena

Yeah, but I mean, some days are better than the others. I always know if it's going to be a good blowjob day by in the morning when I'm brushing my teeth. So some days, if I can really get back there and I. There's no even choking sounds. I know it's going to be a good blowjob. And then sometimes you just start touching.


01:15:46:06 - 01:16:00:07

Xena

You're talking. You feel like like you're gagging a little bit. So some days are just better than the others. Actually, when it comes to blowjobs. And I know immediately if it's going to be a good day based on how I'm brushing my teeth. If the toothbrush makes me gag in the morning or not.


01:16:00:09 - 01:16:04:18

Luna

I love this new incentive for oral hygiene. Everyone brush your teeth in the morning.


01:16:04:18 - 01:16:13:05

Xena

Let us know your tongue scrub back there. I don't know if it's a good day. You're going to be good.


01:16:13:06 - 01:16:24:01

Luna

Okay. And then do you have like a size or shape preference when it comes to cocks to blow? I mean, I know all varieties is great, but like what.


01:16:24:03 - 01:16:25:09

Xena

Do you have limits I guess is.


01:16:25:09 - 01:16:27:07

Luna

What it really asking?


01:16:27:09 - 01:16:31:10

Xena

I love Deep Throat, so anything that could slide down my throat, I really do.


01:16:31:10 - 01:16:36:21

Luna

Feel like it's easier some days than others. Too deep. Or is it just the shape of the cock? And some days are easier.


01:16:36:21 - 01:16:49:02

Xena

And then also the shape does change. But yeah, some days are easier. But yeah, sometimes I just slide down there and then sometimes you work your way, you know, slowly cock.


01:16:49:04 - 01:16:52:15

Luna

And it definitely depends on how they're curved. Like finding that right angle.


01:16:52:18 - 01:16:54:22

Xena

Angle. Yes. Definitely.


01:16:55:00 - 01:17:07:07

Luna

Okay. Any other thoughts on blowjobs. Anything like just love or like make sure you know, the blowjob wise in terms of like you as a giver, as someone, as a receiver.


01:17:07:09 - 01:17:20:21

Xena

Well, I will say, I mean, there's a lot of different positions you can do blowjobs in, so I don't stay in one. So it's like, it's like I turn into a pool. The sexual experience, like first you're going to stand up and watch me on my knees, and then we're going to move to that so you can relax.


01:17:20:21 - 01:17:32:03

Xena

And then we're going to do it this way. So, I do like when I go to give a blowjob to make sure I do it a few different positions before moving on to the actual, you know, that's I.


01:17:32:05 - 01:17:57:12

Luna

I fucking love that. Also everywhere can be a blowjob. Yes. That's amazing. Amazing. Okay, now I have a fantasy. What would you think if we lined up, like, as many cocks as we can get together? Like, I do think it's rude if I have a fantasy around wanting to organize them by, like, size. Because I would do first my girth, then I do it again by length and then maybe shade, I don't know, do you know what I mean?


01:17:57:12 - 01:17:59:13

Luna

Like I love to take pictures. Yeah, yeah.


01:17:59:15 - 01:18:20:13

Xena

And I love all the hot soup, by the way. I feel like the variety. Yeah. You could everyone. There's different things, like, smaller cocks. I love writing and bouncing on and they. Yeah, they really do me so like, I love all cock variety. So I would love to line them up, size, shape and everything and have fun with them based on their cock size.


01:18:20:13 - 01:18:25:05

Xena

Like now that now are organized and now I know, like, okay, we're going to do this with this one.


01:18:25:06 - 01:18:33:13

Luna

Then I also now want to give each of them a note like on his on the phone. And then we play like a human symphony like big thing there. No, we.


01:18:33:15 - 01:18:36:07

Xena

Need like that.


01:18:36:09 - 01:18:40:13

Xena

We make a beautiful music together. This needs to be a movie of a good movie.


01:18:40:14 - 01:18:46:11

Luna

Maybe I'll make that weird porno. Yes. Okay. Where's the best place for people to find you on the internet, a Twitter.


01:18:46:13 - 01:18:48:20

Xena

It's, a more underscore.


01:18:48:20 - 01:18:53:23

Luna

Zena and lovers. The link is in the description below. Zena, thank you so much for being a guest on the next story.


01:18:53:23 - 01:18:55:07

Xena

Thank you for inviting me.

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