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21 pansexual woman, she/her pronouns, non-monogamous 3-year relationship, into: threesomes (& more-somes), couples, voyeurism, anal play, and eating pussy, a kinky data analyst living in the midwest.

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Luna

Our guest today is a 21 year old pansexual woman and a three year long distance non-monogamous relationship. She's a kinky data analyst with a passion for self splurging. And she is into threesomes and more. Sims, couples, voyeurism, anal play and eating pussy. Joining us from the Midwest. Welcome, Veronica.

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Veronica

Hey.

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Luna

Hello. Okay. Can you start out by telling our listeners if you had to rate yourself on a shame, a meter about your sexual self, with ten being so full of shame and one being not full of shame at all. Where do you fall today?

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Veronica

Right now? I would say right now I'm around two. I can't say one because I think everyone has a little bit of shame in something. Fair.

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Luna

Fair. Okay. When does shame show up for you? And does it ever drop down to one for you?

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Veronica

Interestingly enough, it kind of shows up when I'm getting that praise. I enjoy it, but I think that like fluttering and I enjoy the shame. I'm not embarrassed about it, but that fluttering feeling, it's like I have to cover my face from blushing so much or something.

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Luna

Can you tell us a little preview of what are some of the things that make it kind of like flutter and spike in that deliciously shaming way?

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Veronica

Yeah. So actually, not too long ago this afternoon, I was on the phone. I'm meeting a new play partner this weekend, and we were just getting to know each other and talking about, you know, what things are we interested in trying? What have we not tried before? I'm really into experimentalism and we FaceTimed and he was like, oh my God, you're so beautiful.

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Veronica

Like, I can't concentrate. And we had some fun on the phone and I couldn't help myself. But it felt really good. Awesome.

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Luna

Okay, so can you just give us a little overview now of what your sex life is like? What are your favorite parts?

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Veronica

Yeah. So it's really good. I think once I met my current partner, it was around three years ago, and I was like, I want to get into my slutty phase ever. I was in college. I was ready to explore and single, and he ended up being the third person I met, and it was the best sex I've probably had with somebody, and it felt so good.

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Veronica

On the first time, I was like, I can't really let that go right now. And we see each other every week. Long distance, and it's never changed since. It's only gotten better. And we talked about opening the relationship up and meeting with new people, and we're looking for a third right now. But we're experimenting solo since I moved a little bit further away.

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Veronica

Okay.

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Luna

Do you feel comfy saying how far your distances?

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Veronica

Yeah, we're four hours away from each other now. We used to be one and a half. Okay.

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Luna

Yeah, that's a bit of a drive. And then tell us your favorite part.

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Veronica

Oh, I'm a huge experimentalist. I love to try new things, and I never don't try things twice. I think trying things and trying things more than twice will really solidify whether or not I like something. But the thought of just never doing something before, or being with someone who's never done something before. That stuff is so fun to me because that curiosity is what really gets me.

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Luna

I love that I've never thought of myself as an experimentalist, but I might borrow your word and share it a little bit because I love, I love experiment, I mean, everything I do is basically first person, very first person and total research. So. Oh, also, you're a data analyst. How interesting. Do you feel like you're collecting sexual data in your sex capades?

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Veronica

I think in a way, I guess with the experimentalist, you know, my focus is in statistics and stuff. So I love to see how things work for people. I'm always wondering, well, can I be a statistic in this way? Like, how can I be a statistic? Or every scenario is just like, what percentage of the population does this or in Chicago or stuff like that?

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Luna

I think that is maybe the sexiest way I've ever understood the word statistic. Like, how can I be a statistic.

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Veronica

That's that's pretty hot.

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Luna

Okay. So what would you say then makes you an excellent lover?

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Veronica

I care so much about the people I'm with. And I think when I have a partner and and it's, romantic relationship, I can separate my physical activity from that. You know, the way I feel about you, I will spend my energy and time on you. And even if we're seeing other partners, that's not going to go away.

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Veronica

That's awesome or something. And I really do care about the people I'm with. Yeah.

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Luna

That's amazing. When you are inviting a partner to have sex with you, what does that look like?

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Veronica

I'm a very flirty person. When I'm in person, I talk a lot with my eyes, and if we meet in person, it's kind of me just showing up more often and sitting closer to them, starting more conversations. But if it's online, I'm right at it. I'm like, I think you're hot. I want to see you. How can we meet up and get this thing going?

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Veronica

Amazing. Like, here's everything about me.

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Luna

I love that. What is sexy to you? What's your personal definition of sexy?

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Veronica

I think confidence. I always think about the sexiest people that I've seen or being a little girl and thinking, oh my God, she's so like hot or things like that. And I'm just like, she's confident, like. Or he's confident. They're confident. They just look so comfortable in themselves and they don't care about any external factors, such as.

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Luna

When do you feel the sexiest?

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Veronica

Usually when I get out of the shower after I've like done a full body shape, even plucked my eyebrows. I'm like, oh my God, I look so good. I have to get seen tonight. I'm oh my God.

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Luna

I love that. And I know what you mean. Getting ready for someone is so fun. How does sex help you connect with a partner? What intimacy or friendship or social or whatever needs does it meet for you?

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Veronica

There's so much in like, physical pleasure, whether it's like an orgasm and, well, really an orgasm or just a kiss on the neck and that physical intimacy, you don't do that with everybody around you. And being able to do that creates the bond. I really love it. I just love being able to connect with people. I feel so deep with them when I'm able to see them on that level of like, I can pleasure you, you can pleasure me.

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Veronica

And like, we just feel so good together. Yeah, yeah.

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Luna

Are you non-monogamous with your partner now?

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Veronica

Yes.

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Luna

So when you are looking for new partnership, how do you decide when to add someone to your plate or how do you even think about it? Like is it is it you're seeking out a new need or is it just the like experimentalist inside of you? Like looking for newness? Like how do you kind of feel into those needs and desires for yourself?

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Veronica

It is a mixture of feeling that gap or like something's missing. Not in a bad way. It's just like I can add more to it. Why not? Like nobody's perfect, nobody has everything, you know? I'm sure I can find better, but I really enjoy your company. But it's also, It's so fun to have something new. Trying new things all the time.

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Veronica

It's never boring. It's never stagnant. Fuck. Yeah.

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Luna

Okay. What counts as sex for you?

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Veronica

I think, you know, especially if you meet somebody in person or get to chatting with someone, you know instantly that you are going to have sex with them. Or at least I do. And I can just imagine it happening right away. And so at that moment, once I feel that it's like a connection, I guess, like it's an energetic feeling and it's just, it's going to happen.

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Veronica

And I really want it to,

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Luna

What are the health and safety conversations in your life? Like.

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Veronica

I start off in my bios or websites that I'm on and it's in there. This is when I was last tested clean, and I always have a copy on my phone, a PDF of my newest test result, and I even talk about, like, if you have questions, if I've ever had, you know, an STI before or struggle new anyone who has asked me whatever you want, you can ask me that because I feel obligated to share that with you if we are connecting on this level.

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Veronica

Yeah, yeah, it's never a hard thing for me, I love it.

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Luna

It's never a hard thing for you. Did you get a good health and safety talk yourself growing up or good lessons in sex ed or consent?

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Veronica

No, I didn't, I grew up with a lot of sexual trauma, and I spent over ten years in therapy and working with doctors, healing from that because I don't remember it. But I have family members that do and have told me about it and like have shown me. And so I just remember being 13 and I had been at a really low point in my life and luckily I was able to get through it.

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Veronica

But at the end of that, I remember saying, like, I don't like how this feels. If I ever become like a parent or in a relationship, I don't like that feeling. I would never put myself in it. So I'm just seeing it so much around me and like knowing how deeply it affected those, even myself. It was just like, I don't ever want to risk it.

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Luna

Is there anything helpful that you want to share from that experience or address before we start filling in your details?

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Veronica

Unfortunately, sexual trauma is very common in childhood adulthood at any stage of your life, and it's going to be hard to address it. And you know, the worst thing that can happen is you talk about it and it hurts while you talk about it, but the only outcome is that it's going to get easier every single time. You know, that's how your body responds to it and just work through it, believe in yourself and build a strong support system and do it when you're ready.

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Veronica

You don't have to do it right away. Yeah.

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Luna

Now, can you give us an example of a time in your life where there was an explicit, clear, yes. That led to something hot?

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Veronica

Yeah. So after I moved to my new city, I immediately got on the field app, which is a dating app for a lot of people in the community. And I instantly started chatting with this couple and I was like, hey, I check all the boxes in your bio. This is the only thing. I'm not like a great communicator, but in person.

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Veronica

I'm the life of the party, I promise. And three days of texting and it was going really good and we got each other's number and we met up at a bar and they saw me and they were like, is it okay if we hug and sit next to you? Would you like to like, go outside? And I was like, no, this is perfect.

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Veronica

And every time I was touched, I was always asked if it was okay. And it just felt so good to be like, yeah, that actually is okay. I don't mind it at all. Beautiful.

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Luna

Now take us through your sexual timeline in as much detail as you feel comfortable starting at the beginning, what do you remember first? Learning. Thinking. Feeling, understanding about sex as you saw it around you?

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Veronica

I remember being in elementary school and I was in second or third grade, and the boys, they started, they were writing sex on the chalkboard and everyone was giggling and laughing at me. It and I was like, what is that like? I had no idea. And once I got to fifth grade, I got a little access to the internet and I knew how to navigate on, you know, the okay ish phone.

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Veronica

And I searched up like sex and found porn, and I was like, I was like, whoa, this is crazy. I continued looking through it and just scrolling, and I remember seeing things and like, I don't have hair like that there, or I didn't even know that can happen to my body. Just stuff like that. Wondering and exploring, like what is a vagina and what is a clitoris.

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Veronica

And I really was curious about like, my body specifically. And then once I got comfortable, like reading about like, what is the clitoris? It's a very sensitive thing. And I stumbled across my mom's massager is like a face thing, and I felt it vibrate and I was like, okay, I just made me a little try, like, I wonder.

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Veronica

And it felt great. And I took I don't my mom never found it. She was like, have you seen that? No. No idea. I started porn at a very young age, which maybe I shouldn't have. I don't think it's harmed me in any way. I think it's helped educate me a little bit earlier than my peers had been.

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Luna

I talked to a lot of people who learned a lot from porn. Would you tell us what you remember? And how old were you when you found that first one? You said fifth grade.

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Veronica

Ten and fifth grade. I heard sex in second grade.

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Luna

Okay, okay. And so then when did you start, like, looking up more porn? What did you see? Did you ever talk about it with your friends? And it sounds like you didn't have a family that talked about sex or anything, but was there ever anything in school?

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Veronica

We did have classes in school, you know, when they pulled us into the rooms and we watched the videos, it was talked about in the house, but the way it was talked about made me uncomfortable. Yeah. I was like, If I'm going to learn about this, I'm going to learn about it on the internet. And so that's where I really started to focus in on where I'm learning more of my information from.

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Veronica

Okay.

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Luna

What did those learnings lead to and what do you remember about that time?

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Veronica

I think I've always had a gut feeling that like when I would see that it was like my gut feeling would say, I don't feel good when I see it. And I later learned it was that sexual trauma that I had to work through. But I don't know, I was like, yeah, this is something that I should enjoy, so I don't mind if I, I don't know what this vibe, butterfly feeling or whatever is in my stomach when you know, I come or something, but I like it and I feel good about it.

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Veronica

I just don't understand what that little voice is saying. Yeah.

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Luna

So you were doing a lot of healing in your teen years. Was there like, space for you to have crushes on people? Like, what was your kind of, like landscape like, or was it mostly watching porn?

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Veronica

Yeah, honestly, it was mostly watching porn. I totally understand why no one wanted anything to do with me. I was like a scary, sad little kid. Not like a bad way. I always have friends that I can lean on outside of, like what was going on in my home life. But I really enjoyed being independent and I always knew I don't want to like, brag, but I've always like, I know I'm smart and I think that's helped me.

00:22:11:04 - 00:22:17:04

Veronica

Luckily just understand things in a different way than most people would at my age. Yeah.

00:22:17:06 - 00:22:24:08

Luna

Also, we want to fucking celebrate that. You're smart just to say that it's not bragging. We can just celebrate that you're smart and that you recognize that.

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Veronica

Thank you. So being that way helped me kind of really understand what things meant, what was going on and what was right for me. And I really wanted to solidify that before I was able to feel that with someone else or share it with someone else. I don't want you to meet me in my shittiest form, you know?

00:22:43:22 - 00:22:47:14

Veronica

I want to be as good as I can for anybody. Yeah.

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Luna

Damn. Oh, I definitely feel that I can get into isolation mode sometimes, too, when I let that go too far, too. So I always have to watch that. So what sort of relationship were you developing with yourself during that time then?

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Veronica

I was trying to learn how to love myself. I think that confidence and I always wanted to be sexy like I wanted to smell sexy. I want to look sexy, I want to sound sexy, whatever it is. I just want to feel that way and like, own it and until I met my, like, current long term partner, I didn't really understand what that meant for me.

00:23:25:22 - 00:23:44:21

Veronica

I didn't feel it as much. I was like, yeah, I'm good at this. And I still, you know, me saying like, oh, I don't mean to brag, but like just instead of owning it, it's like, yeah, I'm good at this, but I can be good at this too. And instead of like, yeah, I'm fucking great at this. And because I'm so great at it, I have time to learn something else.

00:23:44:21 - 00:24:07:01

Veronica

That's how I need to reframe it. And so once I started doing that, and working in therapy, I in 2023, I put it on my board like, you're the luckiest person alive. Everything works out in your favor. You're so loved by the people around you. On my whiteboard, I didn't erase it. And I haven't had a bad day since.

00:24:07:03 - 00:24:18:03

Luna

You're out of, And it sounds like you're able to actually tap into those feelings, which is, in my understanding, reading all the literature. What makes it true? Like it becomes true when you allow it in. Gorgeous.

00:24:18:03 - 00:24:41:12

Veronica

Yeah. And so now that I'm at that point, I can share myself physically with others because I'm not like, I want to help others to feel that way, the way others have done that for me and like show them like through myself that like as an example, like, look how much I enjoy being in my company and enjoy sharing myself with others and not caring.

00:24:41:18 - 00:24:47:13

Veronica

It's so freeing. I want you to feel that way and I want to help you feel that way.

00:24:47:15 - 00:24:55:18

Luna

In terms of enjoyment, what do you enjoy the most about your own physical body like? Tell us your greatest pleasure points.

00:24:55:20 - 00:25:19:17

Veronica

I love to be fingered. I love clitoral stimulation. I've been doing that forever, but it really I feel the best internally when I finger myself and I can get myself to squirt or stuff like that. It just. It's so good. I love watching people do it and it's the best thing I can do for myself. I think.

00:25:19:19 - 00:25:32:17

Luna

Main thing what about sensations on your body that aren't necessarily genital related? But just like tell us more details like what do you and like, what do you love to have done or offered to you? Or what do you like to do to yourself?

00:25:32:18 - 00:25:54:00

Veronica

Yeah, I love when my legs are being touched. When I was with that couple, we were in the bar, the three of us. We sat next to each other like our legs were touching. He like slapped my leg and grabbed it and he gave us both a kiss on the cheek together. I love PDA and like affection kisses on my body.

00:25:54:00 - 00:26:03:21

Veronica

I love my hair just being touched and a tiny nag slaps or my back rubbed all of that stuff. I'm a huge physical touch person.

00:26:03:21 - 00:26:10:10

Luna

Yeah that's amazing. Are you more of like a gentle receiver? Do you also like to give or does giving feel like work?

00:26:10:12 - 00:26:25:05

Veronica

Oh, I love to give. I love to receive. But while I'm receiving, I'm also giving at the same time because I love to share. I feel like I can share with my touch how good their touch is making me feel fucking.

00:26:25:07 - 00:26:29:04

Luna

What about your nipples? What if they like or like boobs in general?

00:26:29:06 - 00:26:48:05

Veronica

I like them and I got my nipples pierced because I was like, ooh, this is going to be great. And I loved them. And then I took them out and I loved them even more. I was like, yep, I just needed it for a little bit until I learned to love them. And now they're gone. Everything just felt more intense, especially when they were out.

00:26:48:05 - 00:26:57:15

Veronica

I mean, when my partner started like sucking on them or biting on them, I was just like, I would have an orgasm instantly. Almost.

00:26:57:18 - 00:27:03:23

Luna

Oh. That's amazing. Congratulations. Love people. We can have nipple orgasms. I'm so compared to these.

00:27:03:23 - 00:27:05:22

Veronica

Okay,

00:27:06:00 - 00:27:21:14

Luna

What about will you give us details of your pussy you mentioned a little bit about, like, fingering and squirting. Like, do you come from internal stimulation external a mixture like, are you also an experimentalist when it comes to your pussy parts. And then also after that, tell us when you discovered your asshole.

00:27:21:16 - 00:27:52:18

Veronica

I am very sensitive and I love to edge myself. I don't really know how that works, but like my body, like if I have to come really fast, it has to be so good. Like my body can't handle it otherwise. Like it loves to feel that, like building up so much. And I love playing with my pussy. I'm sensitive, my lips like on the sides of my thighs, all around like my butt, my back.

00:27:52:18 - 00:28:17:18

Veronica

It's just as soon as I'm touched by somebody intimately, it's just immediate, like swollen, throbbing. I can orgasm from pretty much anything I just got into, like doing anal penetration. But I have had my finger. I've been fingered and had my ass eaten when I met my long term partner. So he really got me into the lifestyle a little bit.

00:28:17:18 - 00:28:21:07

Veronica

Or like just wanting to explore things in my body a bit more.

00:28:21:13 - 00:28:36:08

Luna

I love a good exploration partner that makes it so, makes the journey so fun. I mean, solo explorations are great too. So okay, so tell us actually, when did you start exploring with partners? Like what was the first time that you had an experience with another person?

00:28:36:10 - 00:29:03:21

Veronica

I remember I was in this like one situation show, weird sort of thing, and I was like 18. It was my first year of college. We had this conversation about how like, I really wanted to see other people, but I was emotionally with him, just sexually. I don't think he's able to give me what he wants to, and he wasn't interested in that.

00:29:03:21 - 00:29:23:13

Veronica

He didn't like it and was like, I, I can't do that. So we broke up and I met someone else and he had a girlfriend, okay. And he told me about it. And that's when I had my first threesome. And so I was like, wait. And I asked them all these questions like, you do this with who?

00:29:23:13 - 00:29:39:16

Veronica

Like, you do it with your friends. You have friends that do this like you guys just like, hang out and party together and then like, do this for fun. And they were just like, yeah, you need to try it. And I mean, I tried it with them, but I knew when I met my long term partner, I was like, I want somebody who's down for this.

00:29:39:18 - 00:29:40:19

Veronica

Okay.

00:29:40:21 - 00:29:44:10

Luna

Wow. So you dropped right into group sex?

00:29:44:12 - 00:30:05:14

Veronica

Yeah. Yeah. I was a very, like, experimental freshman in college, which I think is a great time to do it. No, I felt like there were no consequences at the time other than, like, staying safe with myself, of course. But I was like, I'm trying everything now because the next three years are not going to be as shitty as this one.

00:30:05:16 - 00:30:08:14

Veronica

Okay? It wasn't. Wow.

00:30:08:16 - 00:30:09:12

Luna

Okay, so you.

00:30:09:12 - 00:30:10:01

Veronica

Have.

00:30:10:03 - 00:30:16:19

Luna

Basically been with your long term partner since the end of freshman year, like it's been three years now.

00:30:16:21 - 00:30:33:07

Veronica

Yeah, I had a great sexual time the rest of college. I had sex every week. I had the best sex ever. I was trying stuff coming. I wasn't faking orgasms any more. God that was the worst. Wow okay.

00:30:33:12 - 00:30:37:18

Luna

Were you always long distance with this partner or were you guys ever close together?

00:30:37:20 - 00:30:51:18

Veronica

Yeah, I've always had long distance relationships. I'm a very independent person, and I don't think I would want to be in a relationship with someone who walkable distance from me.

00:30:51:20 - 00:30:54:13

Luna

I'm always like, how do people live together?

00:30:54:15 - 00:31:08:01

Veronica

Yes, like I see my friends, like in a relationship. They hang out every day. Nope. Not me. And so once a week, maybe thrice a week. Yeah, like that's a lot. That's pushing it. Okay.

00:31:08:03 - 00:31:18:03

Luna

But between all partners, how many dates or physical touches do you like to have? Or does it just depend? Is that part of you experiment?

00:31:18:05 - 00:31:40:13

Veronica

Yeah, it really just depends. Right now I'm seeing the couple where, you know, doing some stuff and they're really fun and Friday I'm meeting a new play partner and he's taking me to a dungeon. I've never been to a dungeon, and it's one of the best in the city. So I'm very excited.

00:31:40:15 - 00:31:48:21

Luna

That's awesome. Okay. Oh, where do you want to go first? Do you want to go like, exploration? Just couple. Couple details and eating pussy details.

00:31:48:21 - 00:32:13:18

Veronica

Yeah. Oh my gosh. Yeah. That was like I've always loved doing it. I love it done to me. And I love a woman and people with pussy is so you know I'm totally happy to try it. I love it so much. I'm sure they would too. And I did it a few times here and there. I have most of my experience with people with penises.

00:32:13:20 - 00:32:50:00

Veronica

But meeting this couple, I was so excited to just give this woman so much attention. She was so hot and we were the ones that matched on the app. So it was her and I talking. I love that. Yeah. And so when I met her husband it was just as fun and we ended up going to their place after the bar and we went to the rooftop and we just had some drinks and we're talking and laughing and there was a lot of touching going on, and there were people behind us talking and they like mentioned polyamorous relationships and stuff like that.

00:32:50:00 - 00:33:14:11

Veronica

And we just turned and like, looked. You're like, yeah, we're like, yeah, the beers. And then we all left together and we hung out for six hours and fucked for maybe three. Oh my God. We were standing around their island just like talking. And I have a bunch of tattoos. And the wife was like, she was taking off my jacket and said, I'd love to see them.

00:33:14:11 - 00:33:31:17

Veronica

And her husband got on the floor and he lifted up my dress. I had tights on, and he lifted up my dress and was just like kissing me. And the wife and I were making out while I was fingering her, and we went to the couch. Just fucked on the couch for a long time. And I loved watching them fuck.

00:33:31:17 - 00:33:36:13

Veronica

And he told me like, no, it woman has made his wife cum like that.

00:33:36:13 - 00:33:40:21

Luna

That's so okay. What were you doing? How did you know what to do? Are you intuitive or was it just everything.

00:33:41:01 - 00:34:02:08

Veronica

I was, we were. I know I'm like jumping through details so much happened. I was laying on my back and a missionary and her husband was fucking me. And she was sitting on my face, and she'd started coming and, you know, I mean, her husband was great, but that really turned me on because I'm like, oh my God, I'm making a woman cum.

00:34:02:08 - 00:34:22:07

Veronica

And so then I start, like, squirting all over the couch. Oh my gosh, best time ever, I know. And so I was like, wow, I got to do this again. And when we finish we just kind of played around in the kitchen or her husband would like, go behind her, give her some kisses and touch her a little.

00:34:22:07 - 00:34:31:12

Veronica

And then he would to me. But we just like slowly got dressed throughout the night and I went home without my stockings on. Oh, that's so hot.

00:34:31:14 - 00:34:35:11

Luna

What do you think are the ingredients to a good threesome?

00:34:35:13 - 00:35:05:13

Veronica

I think making sure everybody feels involved because with two people it's very easy to focus on one person. But when there's two people that, you know, there's you, of course, you're pleasing yourself and they're pleasing you, but you're also pleasing to others. And I have a twin, so I always focus on I want everybody to feel equally loved, like that is the best thing you could do.

00:35:05:13 - 00:35:19:12

Veronica

So I remember like, you know, holding her legs up and like telling him how to fuck her. And, you know, it was like, you can tell me how hot I am, but you better be fucking her. Good. Yes, I love you. No. Fuck, yeah.

00:35:19:14 - 00:35:26:15

Luna

You mentioned in your intro more sums. Is that something you have experience with? Like tell us.

00:35:26:16 - 00:35:53:13

Veronica

Yeah. So my freshman year of college, it was a Halloween party. And I remember being in my costume and seeing these two girls were making out with this guy. And I was like, whoa, this looks really fun. And I walk up to them and I'm saying, hey, like, can I kiss you? And being flirty and she was like, fuck yeah.

00:35:53:13 - 00:36:15:06

Veronica

And we started making out and we just ditched the guy. The guy just walked away. He was like, trying to talk to us. And the three of us were making out. And my friend joined in and like, we were all just like touching, kissing. And my friend and I got on the table together and we're making out. And the girls were like, leaning up against his leg.

00:36:15:08 - 00:36:23:01

Veronica

Oh my God, it was just so fun. Nobody was there. Like the party was all downstairs. It was like near the kitchen in this frat house.

00:36:23:03 - 00:36:26:05

Luna

I love it like a little impromptu orgy.

00:36:26:07 - 00:36:32:13

Veronica

That's awesome. I know, and all it took was me seeing it. Oh, I'm so glad.

00:36:32:15 - 00:36:42:05

Luna

And tell us how voyeurism has come into play for you. Like it sounds like maybe you have been in some public place situations or places where you're allowed to watch? Or is it mostly couples?

00:36:42:07 - 00:36:50:00

Veronica

I love watching couples together. I love seeing people in love, like doing things that they would do for their love.

00:36:50:03 - 00:36:52:22

Luna

You know what I saw? It's so beautiful.

00:36:53:01 - 00:37:31:18

Veronica

Yeah. And I remember, like, watching porn, and I like, I kind of really like this. I love watching people like, getting fucked. And I was like, is it a porn addiction? And I'm like, not really. But when I watch porn, I want people to be getting fucked good. Like, I don't want someone being violent, like. So I remember in college, you see people fucking all the time in college, and I remember seeing someone getting fucked in the dorm window, and you can only see, like, her hand and stuff and whatever, but there was just a crowd outside laughing and giggling.

00:37:31:20 - 00:37:43:03

Veronica

I was like, that's pretty high. This is really like, I don't know, it's fun. Yeah. Oh, wow. There's lots of kinky people here in the Midwest you love. Yeah.

00:37:43:03 - 00:37:54:17

Luna

Oh, I love it I love that. Yeah. So you're are you meeting kinky people now in person? Like you're going to your first dungeon, but have you been doing explorations like, how are you definitely kink curious. Tell us about that evolution.

00:37:54:19 - 00:38:21:18

Veronica

I really like exploring King by myself. So like I'll talk to my partner, but I really want to try things first before I do them with my partner. And we have that agreement, right? Like I'm allowed to explore solo, but when I want to bring new things to him, I want to do it first. So I like, can tell him all about it and just tell him it because we like to talk about how hot it is.

00:38:21:20 - 00:38:46:10

Veronica

But I do like to explore on my own. I'll go to a bar and some nights I'll dress really sexy and you know, I'll text my friends where I'm at, I'll meet with my friends, and I love, I think all my friends and I are very hot. So when we get approached, it's so fun to, like, get free drinks and give sex appeal and like kind of explore what people are into.

00:38:46:10 - 00:39:05:08

Veronica

And I am honestly comfortable asking people right away, like, or how kinky are you? Really? Yeah. Because though, you know, people at a bar, they'll come up to you and tell you they want to hook up with you or you're so sexy and it's like, I might think you're hot, but are you kinky? Like, are you okay? I'm looking deeper.

00:39:05:10 - 00:39:07:06

Veronica

And can you handle that? Yeah.

00:39:07:06 - 00:39:14:04

Luna

So what kinks of yours have you already met? And what do you tell those people? Like, when they're like, are you kinky?

00:39:14:06 - 00:39:32:21

Veronica

Yeah. So when I initially, like, meet people or if they come up to me or we meet on a dating app, I'm like, hey, if well, if it's on like a dating app or a website like FET life, it's already stated in. Yeah, right. Yeah. But if it's in person, I tell them, like, just so you know, you're asking for my number.

00:39:32:21 - 00:39:59:16

Veronica

I, like we're open. I have partners, I'm tested. You can ask for it, but I just got to let you know before that, you know, and sometimes they say, oh, that's fine, then I understand. Usually with men, I get the response like, okay, that's fine. Like I'll do it, but with women I'll get, you know, they don't really get it.

00:39:59:16 - 00:40:13:07

Veronica

I'm like, oh, what do you want me to do with that? Like, I had one woman. She was like, that is so hot. Like, here's my number. And I took her number down. I haven't texted her yet. And then I said.

00:40:13:09 - 00:40:20:07

Luna

What do you think? Is there hesitation? Is it just because it's like picking up a lady? It sounds like maybe. So the lady is new for you?

00:40:20:09 - 00:40:46:09

Veronica

Yeah. Solo. I've only done ladies in, like, groups, and I, I would love, like, being with a lady solo. I don't, I get nervous around woman like a special woman. Everybody else I'm pretty comfortable with. And women, they just get me like, I don't know, I like meld, but they're so fun when we're together because I think women having sex and just being intimate with each other.

00:40:46:09 - 00:40:50:21

Veronica

So much different. There's something there I don't know. So I.

00:40:51:00 - 00:41:10:12

Luna

Feel you. I feel like lately the ladies that I've been with, like I look at them when we're all naked because I'm like you, I have a lot of threesome experience and not as much solo lady experience. And I just like, I feel like they transform into, like, sex goddess creatures and I like, see them differently or something.

00:41:10:12 - 00:41:12:02

Luna

So I don't know.

00:41:12:04 - 00:41:12:13

Veronica

Whatever.

00:41:12:18 - 00:41:22:14

Luna

Whatever's happening in that experience. Tell us about your kinky self. Are you like, are you dominant or submissive? Like what have you learned about that part of you so far?

00:41:22:16 - 00:41:48:01

Veronica

I love being dominant and threesomes. I find when I'm with couples I love being dominant with them and they love it too. And sometimes, like, they'll tell me I've never done that before. Like that was so fun just telling them what to do. Like slapping both their asses. Like flogging any of that. It's so fun. I like being submissive to them.

00:41:48:03 - 00:42:06:08

Veronica

I think that's really fun. I think it really depends on the partner I can do. Either. I can switch pretty well. I think that's the most fun thing, right? Really. I don't always want to be, you know, submissive. Sometimes I want you to be that way. I want to see you vulnerable to me.

00:42:06:10 - 00:42:11:22

Luna

Do you like to switch, like in a scene or, like, partner to partner? Or does it just depend? Oh.

00:42:12:00 - 00:42:37:01

Veronica

I love switching in a scene because it makes it last so much longer. It's so fun switching because it's like, oh my God, you got to do all this shit to me. Look what I got stored for you. Like I was waiting for the like. Yeah, it's so fun to just like, yeah, I love switching in scenes and my new play partner, he was telling me, like, I actually really like to be flogged.

00:42:37:01 - 00:42:48:21

Veronica

And he sent me a picture of his toys and he was like, I would love for you to use these on me. And because I was telling him how I want to try it really bad. Okay.

00:42:48:23 - 00:42:55:08

Luna

Okay. So you've used flogger so far, what else have you used and what else do you want to try?

00:42:55:10 - 00:43:17:21

Veronica

I use a lot of toys by myself, like in my alone time. I like my toys. Like even when I, you know, took my mom's, like, face washer thing. Like I liked it. I didn't like one it out anywhere. Maybe I think of it, like, as my own, not as my own body part. I don't know how weird that sounds, but it's like I'm masturbating.

00:43:17:23 - 00:43:37:18

Veronica

I know how to use this better than anybody, but I would love to use people's toys on them. Like they can tell me how to use their toys. But for me, I just have this feeling like, yes, someone can fuck me really good, but I know how to do it better and I want some things that I just own and it's my toy is.

00:43:37:19 - 00:43:56:17

Veronica

But I want a butt plug really bad. What kind? I've been looking at a bunch. So this play partner, he just showed me some new ones he bought. And one of them, it's like a twisty one. So he was like, it's very friendly. I told him that I was newer to penetration and he's like, this is very friendly for that.

00:43:56:17 - 00:44:12:06

Veronica

And yeah, so I'm very excited to try those. Those are fun. I want some with the gems on them that I can kind of just wear throughout the day, or if I go to like a dungeon by myself or something, find a partner there. Little surprise. Amazing.

00:44:12:07 - 00:44:24:09

Luna

What have you learned in this partnership? In this long distance partnership you've been in for three years? I'm curious to hear what you've learned about yourself, about partnership in general, and then about like a long distance partnership.

00:44:24:11 - 00:44:50:02

Veronica

I think about partnership as like it's so fluid and it's sort of like, I don't like boxes. And I know that signing. I don't mind a situationship. I think situation ships are sexy. I think that keeps it spicy, because the moment I feel I'm not looking for marriage right now. So the moment I feel like I'm dating someone and saying like, oh, I want to marry them, I'm like, I don't want to be in a box.

00:44:50:02 - 00:45:09:22

Veronica

I don't, because when you tell people you're married, they're going to be like, oh, well, being non-monogamous is weird. Or like, you know, I like not, I don't know, but I love just being like, yeah, we're a situationship because I don't think saying we're, I don't know, XYZ. I just hate boxes. I, I'm the.

00:45:09:22 - 00:45:29:18

Luna

Same way, I'm the same. I'm, I'm like, I don't want anyone else to make assumptions about this. I don't want anyone to make assumptions about me based on a partner. If we're public, like I want to be independent. And I also just like I'm not on the regular relationship escalator. Like, what if I'm just in a relationship that I want to make up as I go along and don't want to?

00:45:29:19 - 00:45:31:22

Luna

I got it, yeah.

00:45:32:00 - 00:45:49:01

Veronica

And I love being in like that low key, I low key like, I know I'm not that mysterious, but like, I love it like makes me feel mysterious. I want, I want people to see what I'm doing and be like, what the fuck is going on? And like, I want to try that because most people will. Or even if they're like, what the fuck is going on?

00:45:49:01 - 00:45:55:12

Veronica

I don't want to try that. Good for you. I wasn't looking that way, you know, like totally.

00:45:55:14 - 00:46:17:14

Luna

I find that inspiring. I actually want to be a little more mysterious, because so much of me for the past five years has been like, I'm. Hello, here's everything about me and everything. I think good. And now I'm like. And like, people like talking to me about oversharing. And I'm like, well, look, it's education. It's fine. But like, I am inspired by your weight.

00:46:17:14 - 00:46:23:14

Luna

So how do you feel? Mysterious. And is that related to self splurging at all or is that different?

00:46:23:16 - 00:46:47:11

Veronica

I feel mystery is in a sense that, like, I'm going to use this as an example. So this story is kind of like crazy. So I had my first experience with someone that was like more than 40 years older than me. Okay. How was that for you? It was really freaking fun. But I was just so surprised because I had been like, I knew this person.

00:46:47:11 - 00:47:04:17

Veronica

We were regulars at the same place together. We were all friends. I have a very diversified friend group in college, and I would like just give little looks to two of them because I thought they were both pretty attractive. But I would just, you know, flirt. And I'm like, well, I guess I'll see which one takes the bait, you know?

00:47:04:19 - 00:47:28:20

Veronica

And I remember, like when I was leaving, we ended up hooking up eventually. It was great. So much fun did our thing. But when I left, like, he was telling me, like, do you remember how, like, you were telling me to ask you how good you loved and tell you how much I loved your eyes? And this. And he's like, I can't figure you out, but it's just so sexy, you know?

00:47:28:21 - 00:47:48:11

Veronica

So it just felt so good. Not like, because I would explain. He knew I was in a relationship. I told him that. I talked about it openly to my friend there and like he always felt comfortable asking me questions and was just like, wow. Like you're opening my mind so much as a, you know, someone in their late 16 saying that to you.

00:47:48:11 - 00:47:49:12

Veronica

That's a lot.

00:47:49:12 - 00:48:00:22

Luna

I was going to say also like, how was it for you? I've slept with people that are decades older than me, but I know a lot of people who have it. And I'm I'm into it. I'm into so many things. But I would just like, love to hear.

00:48:01:02 - 00:48:04:02

Veronica

Yeah, literally, I am.

00:48:04:02 - 00:48:05:16

Luna

Surprised. I, you know.

00:48:05:16 - 00:48:22:23

Veronica

I always liked people who are older than me. I like the thought of doing things with someone who's more experienced. I like having that dynamic between each other. And so when I did it, I wasn't I was like surprised. It actually worked because.

00:48:23:01 - 00:48:25:06

Luna

Oh, you mean penis wise or what do you mean?

00:48:25:08 - 00:48:46:09

Veronica

No? The demographic like demographic wise, it did not work. Like, I was just so surprised the demographics, okay, came together in like a decade and like, I don't know, it was just so crazy. And it was so fun and, like, I felt like I was the freakin Mona Lisa.

00:48:46:09 - 00:48:51:12

Luna

I think the same because you fucking blew his mind. He was probably like, oh yeah.

00:48:51:14 - 00:49:11:15

Veronica

I yeah, literally he and I had the best time ever. I think about it and I'm like, yeah, like low key. That wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Like, oh love. Yeah, it kind of did change my mind that like, you don't, I kind of have this fear sometimes of getting older like everybody does at some point, you know, whatever.

00:49:11:15 - 00:49:20:03

Veronica

But like now I'm like, okay, I can still be sexy as hell and older and I've seen it. I you see it all the time.

00:49:20:03 - 00:49:48:00

Luna

That's what I continue to decide do because I just turned 34 and I'm like solidly in mid 30s, like 33. You can still make a case for early 30s just by dividing by three, you know. But now I'm like, okay, I'm really I'm a really a grown up. And then I was like, wait, no, I'm just going to take care of my body and get enough sleep and like, be in good shape so I can fuck and I'll just stay sexy because I want to for a while, you know, I've had so many people lately like give me really like, since I was like, I'll just stay sexy.

00:49:48:00 - 00:50:05:02

Luna

I'll just think of myself as sexy. And I'm affirming that. I've literally been getting so many explicit compliments and or, you know, from people who have gone on dates with or just fucked and then they don't they don't think I'm 34, they think I'm in my 20s and I'm like, oh, it's nice of you to say so. I really feel that.

00:50:05:02 - 00:50:25:09

Luna

I also love I think that's why I also really love being with people who are much older and then, you know, always legal, always consensual, also younger than me. Like, I'm pretty, especially since I'm like you and we're not on the relationship escalator looking for a lock down till death do us part. Suddenly we're able to just experience people's energy.

00:50:25:11 - 00:50:27:03

Veronica

And I love.

00:50:27:05 - 00:50:34:04

Luna

The like, excitement and gratitude of gentlemen and older generations who maybe haven't had my level of enthusiasm because of, you know, whatever.

00:50:34:04 - 00:50:35:13

Veronica

So yeah, so.

00:50:35:15 - 00:50:41:17

Luna

That's my self projection from your story. What else have you experienced? What else have you loved? What else are you into that we don't know about?

00:50:41:17 - 00:51:01:22

Veronica

Yeah, I really want to explore my squirting more. I try to tell my partners that like they see it, I don't have a problem doing it and they love it. But I feel like some people kind of have that, like, oh, is it me or is it not? And like, they don't want to outwardly say that or like show it.

00:51:01:23 - 00:51:23:17

Veronica

But you can see that internal reaction. But I really want to like when it happens, I'm like, see, it's so fun. Like, and you know, whatever you think it is, you love it when it happens. You just worry about it in the moment. Like while you're doing it. It's like weird, you know? And they never feel uncomfortable, of course.

00:51:23:19 - 00:51:43:06

Veronica

And I would never make them do that. But like, I kind of feel the hesitation sometimes until it actually happens. Like when I was on the phone with my potential new partner today, I was like, is this okay? Like, you was like, yeah, keep going. Like, put the camera up, let me see it like and like, yeah, just keep telling me what to do.

00:51:43:06 - 00:51:47:06

Veronica

I'm like, yeah, that's so hot.

00:51:47:08 - 00:51:55:00

Luna

Can you teach partners to make you squirt? Because you can squirt yourself. I have not yet taught anyone to squirt me and I want do, but like, do you know how to do that?

00:51:55:01 - 00:52:17:08

Veronica

I've never taught a partner how to do it. Usually when I squirt with some part, if they're like fingering me, I can usually get myself to do it. Like I can angle my body in a certain way and like, grind myself to do it. But usually happens, like if they're fucking me or something and then like, I come that way.

00:52:17:10 - 00:52:29:06

Veronica

I usually like just when I'm coming from any type of penetration, like that's usually how it is now. Like my body just likes it that way. And I think it goes for that. Okay.

00:52:29:08 - 00:52:44:00

Luna

That's so interesting that you're getting those kind of like mixed reactions. I feel like most people I talk to are just like, oh, squirting. But it's like, I think it's great to just hear like, right. All kinds of people are out there, you know, and we're all maybe more scared of it until it happens. And then it's hot.

00:52:44:00 - 00:52:44:21

Luna

I don't know.

00:52:44:23 - 00:52:45:23

Veronica

All of it.

00:52:46:01 - 00:52:51:08

Luna

What would you say makes you feel the most appreciated, sexually speaking?

00:52:51:10 - 00:53:15:13

Veronica

I think always just checking in and I believe falling asleep together is after care before I say anything, like if it just happens and like we pass out, like while I'm on top of you or like I just lay down first and we pass out. Wow. You know something? It's like, that's fine. I believe that after care because I'm, like, holding you and and like, I feel appreciated while you're holding me.

00:53:15:13 - 00:53:49:19

Veronica

But I really think that checking in with each other, like before, during after and before the before and after the after, you know, just like it's always important to reassure your partner and be reassured that everything is okay. Totally. And especially when I feel somebody can like, just read. Like the way my body moves, like if I like jerk a certain way or I like tense up and they feel that that just makes me feel so appreciated and assured.

00:53:49:19 - 00:53:56:23

Veronica

I'm like, you're really being in tune with me and, you know, my physical and spiritual energy.

00:53:57:01 - 00:54:07:23

Luna

Okay, so with your new potential play partner you were just mentioning, it sounds like maybe there was some video sex happening. Are you into long distance stuff like sexting, nudes, video like tell us, tell us about that.

00:54:08:01 - 00:54:28:05

Veronica

I'm not the biggest nude sender. I used to a lot. And then I was like, if I want to have sex with somebody, I would do it in person. I have no business being a pen pal with somebody in California when I have no way to get there. You know, I feel that real strongly.

00:54:28:07 - 00:54:35:14

Luna

I'm like, thank you for your energy. I would love to exchange a couple friendly messages, but I'm here for the 3D physical.

00:54:35:16 - 00:54:55:17

Veronica

Yeah. And so I think in know even like with partners and stuff, I feel like you can tell me how bad you want to see me. If you wanted to, you would, because I know that's how I work and you know, and not at that. It's bad that if you want to and you don't want to, then that just means you don't want to.

00:54:55:21 - 00:54:56:19

Veronica

Yeah.

00:54:56:21 - 00:55:00:17

Luna

Like, how do you and your partner stay in touch? Best. Will you see each other, though?

00:55:00:19 - 00:55:20:08

Veronica

Yeah, we see each other. Well, now that I'm further, I just moved further away, but we spent, like, a week together before I left, so, like, I got help moving in, and we spent the day after, you know, all of that stuff, so that was fine. I think quality time really makes up for the texting, the length of texting back.

00:55:20:09 - 00:55:47:14

Veronica

And so if we end up seeing each other once a month, once every two months, if that, you know, one time together is really fucking great, then it'll make up for it and it'll be worth it. But I don't know. I think it can be fun. I would like phone sex. I love auditory erotica. I think it's so hot and just like somebody talking to me, but knowing they can't do anything about it or touch me is so odd.

00:55:47:16 - 00:56:17:03

Veronica

Amazing. Do you still watch porn every once in a while? I like to switch it up. I think sometimes porn is like my, you know, all my mat or whatever you want to call it, right? And so I always end up going back to it. It's reliable, whatever. But I like to think about things sometimes. Or if I do watch porn before I go to bed, I'm like, okay, I'm going to finger myself or I'm going to have a second orgasm a different way.

00:56:17:05 - 00:56:24:16

Veronica

And like, I love to use my mind to just keep it stimulated a little bit. Okay. Yeah. What are your.

00:56:24:16 - 00:56:31:02

Luna

Hopes for your sexual self going forward? Whether it's specific things you want to try or just more broadly speaking.

00:56:31:04 - 00:56:52:21

Veronica

I think eventually. So the thing with my current partner, like we call it a relationship, again, it's a situationship we establish with each other that like if one day one of us wakes up and decides, like, I don't really want anything to do with you anymore, or I'm done, like, I want to break this off, that's fine, because I don't believe that, you know, I believe that you change.

00:56:52:21 - 00:57:18:11

Veronica

Like you woke up one day and decided you're on a different path than I am, and you don't want me there. That's fine. Like that means I wasn't meant for you anymore, you know? And it's like. So, like, we have that agreement that it's fine to leave. And so. But I think eventually I want to find that person that's like, I want to marry you and I want to live this lifestyle with you.

00:57:18:12 - 00:57:34:04

Veronica

And I think once I find that person, I'll like, stay more and like kink, but like, do kink together as a couple so we wouldn't play as solo together. God cool. So more into like, couples or something. Yeah. Yes.

00:57:34:04 - 00:57:46:22

Luna

I have so many reclamation fantasies and like, I never want to stop fucking new people. You know, I want to stay risk aware, but damn, I want that person who is like, now you're mine again.

00:57:47:00 - 00:57:48:16

Veronica

Right? Exactly.

00:57:48:18 - 00:57:54:11

Luna

Any other stories that you want to share or just thoughts in general about sex?

00:57:54:13 - 00:58:18:03

Veronica

I think like one of my biggest things, because I am quite young and a lot of people in my age group aren't in that kink life. So, you know, they may be kinky, but it's not a majority. And I, you know, if you are similar in that situation, it's okay. Like, you're not weird. There's people out there and you can still have your friend groups.

00:58:18:05 - 00:58:37:18

Veronica

And that's what I always tell myself, like, you can still have your friend groups and you're not limited to those friends. Like you can move around, build new, and add communities together. And if someone's your friend, they're not going to be like, oh my God, you're too kinky for me. I think that's weird. Like, yeah, that's not your friend, you know?

00:58:37:18 - 00:59:03:08

Veronica

So I sure do, you know? Yeah. So the right people will support you. And if they don't like, that's fine. Yeah. You know, you know, pleasuring yourself is every. There's something to be said about like orgasms and sex. It's so different than other things. I don't know, and it's not that deep. It might have it.

00:59:03:10 - 00:59:25:23

Luna

Well, it isn't it isn't it? Right. Like like on the one hand, it's not at all. But on the other hand, I could literally talk about it forever. And like, my whole life is just, like, noodling deeply on all the sexy things, you know? And it's all great, all perfect. If you had an unlimited budget to design your personal perfect suck room or mansion or palace.

00:59:26:01 - 00:59:27:02

Veronica

What would it be like?

00:59:27:02 - 00:59:29:09

Luna

What would the main elements be?

00:59:29:11 - 01:00:01:05

Veronica

Oh, I really want to get into my exhibitionist side. So it would be all about me. And I really want a place with like a big table, just like in the center. That could be like converted and just moved, however, to where like I can be strapped down with a domme like blindfolded, doing whatever. And just like a theater, almost like people can just sit there and watch, but they can't do anything right.

01:00:01:05 - 01:00:04:21

Veronica

But just be a performer in that way. It'll be so.

01:00:04:21 - 01:00:13:10

Luna

Fun. So hot. I'm seeing it. So, style wise, are you thinking more like classic modern? Like what? What caused you?

01:00:13:12 - 01:00:28:10

Veronica

I'm thinking, like, sort of like a classic theme. Like, if you think of, like, a big classic, like maybe like a room, maybe in there and it's dark. Maybe antique furniture is asks.

01:00:28:12 - 01:00:35:18

Luna

Are there mirrors so that you can see yourself and see what people are reacting to you? That's so hard?

01:00:35:20 - 01:00:44:07

Veronica

Oh yeah, for sure. That way. Anyway, I'm facing I can see those watching me. I love it or feel them watching me.

01:00:44:09 - 01:00:57:18

Luna

Yeah, I'm imagining a very high tech stage, you know, like some of the productions where, like, stuff like the. Yeah, comes up and down the chain manager. And then the implementer just for.

01:00:57:20 - 01:01:02:02

Veronica

Yeah, I love it. I press the button.

01:01:02:04 - 01:01:10:08

Luna

Okay. So now tell us if you could go back in time and give younger you a piece of sex advice, what age or ages would you pick and what would you say?

01:01:10:10 - 01:01:34:10

Veronica

Honestly, I could even go back to like two years ago or before, maybe four years ago when I was starting college and just reminding myself, like, there's nothing you have to change to please anybody. You can do whatever you want that makes you feel best, and there's somebody and people out there that are going to fucking love it.

01:01:34:16 - 01:01:50:17

Veronica

Like, doesn't matter. And so just be confident in that. And if you walk around knowing there's at least ten people in here, that would fuck me right now, people will approach you and come like it shows. It shows when you believe it.

01:01:50:18 - 01:01:57:16

Luna

Beautiful wisdom. I feel that. Is there a sex question that you want to ask me?

01:01:57:18 - 01:02:10:15

Veronica

If you had to leave your like if you were left to choose one kink or fetish or interest to be stuck with, what would that be?

01:02:10:17 - 01:02:13:05

Luna

Oh, what a hard question.

01:02:13:09 - 01:02:18:20

Veronica

Oh, okay.

01:02:18:20 - 01:02:27:00

Luna

In this question are like basics. So like basic penetration of all sorts are still they get to stay on the table. But it's like what kink do I experience them through.

01:02:27:02 - 01:02:29:18

Veronica

Oh yeah.

01:02:29:20 - 01:02:45:20

Luna

Top of mind. Where my mind goes first is submissive restraint. So like any kind of restraint, if I am just like and obviously it's got to be in situations where I can still be greatly of service because I have such a service kink. But I love.

01:02:45:20 - 01:02:46:12

Veronica

Being.

01:02:46:17 - 01:02:58:22

Luna

Like restrained, and I feel like I could still get like tied down, put in a bed attached to a door, like all these different things. And someone could still, like, suck my throat or use me in all these other ways. So I think that's where I've got to go with that one. If I had to just pick one.

01:02:58:22 - 01:03:04:05

Luna

But I reserve the right to change my answers a thousand times.

01:03:04:07 - 01:03:19:22

Veronica

Oh yeah, oh yeah, 100% say it like it depends on the event. My answer I think it would be like C and C, because it still leaves it up to the like. There's still that like curiosity or surprise factor.

01:03:20:01 - 01:03:21:08

Luna

Oh that's like that.

01:03:21:08 - 01:03:33:13

Veronica

Like oh shit. It's happening right here. Like, oh I love this. I've never done it before. It's like that says, but maybe that wouldn't be a kink. But I don't know if that was the case, but I think I'd have to choose B and C. Yeah.

01:03:33:15 - 01:03:39:18

Luna

I love it. It's a good answer for today. Veronica, thank you so much for being a guest on Sex Stories.

01:03:39:20 - 01:03:42:00

Veronica

Yeah, I had so much fun meeting you.