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Marketing & Communications director for the sponsor of this episode: ONE Condoms, she has been in the sex industry for 14 years and shares about MyONE Custom Fit and FLEX One Condoms.

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Luna

And our guest today is the marketing and communications director for the sponsor of this episode, one condoms. She has been in the sex industry for 14 years. Born in Finland, she is excited to share about how her brand helps penis owners and their partners discover new heights of pleasure, comfort and confidence. And she is going to tell us about One Flex, a brand new thin condom technology made with graphene, allowing for 85% better body heat transfer for skin to skin feel.

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Luna

Welcome, Mila.

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Milla

Thank you so much for having me on. So excited to talk to you today, especially about the second half. It's just I love it.

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Luna

And graphene, it just sounds so cool. Can you first start off by telling us if you had to rate yourself on a sexual shaming meter, with ten being so full of shame and one being, I have no shame at all. Where do you fall today? Right now?

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Milla

I'd say somewhere between the two and the three. And certainly when I look back at my life, it's fluctuated over the years. Okay. One example would be when I moved from Finland to Texas at the sweet, gentle age of 11 and very quickly started to realize that. People here certainly talk about sex a different. When I was very young, but also just about bodies too.

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Milla

I had a friend who found out that in Finland we love saunas, right? And people in Finland everybody has a sauna in their house, or most households do. It's just who has a culture where we go, relax, we take a deep breath at the end of the day to be healthy, but we're also naked and often you're naked with your friends or family members.

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Milla

And when my friend in middle school found that out, went and told everyone in school, like Mila has seen her friend's penis or whatever, you know, has started naked with her cousins. And to me, I was so embarrassed. And immediately that's when I mean, it was like at a ten because I didn't realize that that was weird. So very quickly realized that there's different, even not just sex, but just generally being naked.

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Milla

Like, for us, there's a way to be naked in a sauna. It's not sexual. But then we realize like, oh, this is a different way to also talk about bodies and nudity and just sex in general. So that was like a very early experience of thinking about same when to do.

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Luna

I relate to that so hard because also it's not officially weird, right? It's just the culture. And I too, like, I grew up in California and my parents.

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Milla

Are.

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Luna

Medium regular. Like if we had to like in an American scale, they're like kind of in the middle. However, they were in the military, stationed in Germany a lot like my heritage is German. I don't have my family. And so it's like, like we're not naked around each other now as adults, but like grew up with that level of comfort and also like hot tubs, spas, like we have a sauna actually on my parent's ranch.

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Luna

And so it's like, we're not weird about it. You know, I don't go around looking at my dad and brother naked because there is enough American in us that, like, that's it. We're too old for that. But like, I definitely remember being 24 and talking on the phone to my best friend and being like, it's the weirdest thing.

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Luna

I was single for the first time, you know? I had my first boyfriend, 22 to 24. I was like, every time I take a date up to the hot tub after a date, like they always make a move on me, like they always kiss me. And my best friend was like, yeah. I mean, even my mom knows what hot tub means.

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Luna

And I was like, what does it mean? Like, cause it was just something different, even in my family. And I didn't put those pieces together, so. Wow. Okay. So how did you get down to a 2 or 3? Like, what was that kind of process like.

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Milla

What it was realizing even in so some of my earlier sex ed classes in Texas, you can imagine they were abstinence only and focus just on shame. It was all about like, how do you shame kids as much as you can into not having sex? And I have two examples that I can talk through in a little bit.

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Milla

But realizing then through some of those early experiences how people talked about sexual health, like, I don't like this, and I would like to figure out ways throughout my life to talk to people about sexual health in a different way. So I did sex education in college. I did public relations for sexual health organizations and LGBTQ organizations after college, and then eventually wound up at the condom company.

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Milla

So I've just found these little different ways to talk about sexual health. And I think in that process, it also helped me get rid of some of that learned shame or yeah, throughout my life. And now sex is basically all I talk about where, you know, somebody's Uber ride is taking you somewhere, and all of a sudden now they've gotten like a whole sex ed, one on one lesson.

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Milla

Yeah, well, I think that when they picked me up that we were going to talk about cosmetic condoms and lubricant and the menstrual boundaries, like, if I can tell they're uncomfortable, I'm not going to keep talking. Yeah, exactly. But just being a lot more open about it. Absolutely.

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Luna

Do you feel comfortable saying when shame does still arise and those moments that are a 2 or 3 like how if ever, does it evolve, how or when?

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Milla

That's a good question. I think sometimes when I'm sharing something that I might want to experience right, sexually or in a relationship. And then whether it's just cues from another person level or body language, what they might be not doing it on purpose, but they're like, oh, that's a little weird. And everyone has their boundaries and that's cool.

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Milla

Until when? For a second, you're like, okay, maybe the shame meter goes up a few notches, but then that's how you also realize, like, I was sexually compatible with somebody, right? And through those conversations. So it's perfect that way.

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Luna

It's a more private life. Not so much work life. Do you ever have shame moments that are work related? Because I feel like for me, work. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I can talk about everything. I can like help people figure stuff out. And then it's still in my private life. Sometimes someone like, I was on a date the other night and he was like, yeah, what is at the top of your bucket list right now?

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Luna

And even though I have like, shared that semi publicly with all my patrons, I'm like.

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Milla

023I have noticed I'm glad you brought that up because yeah, we talk about sex all the time. We help people and oh, how do you communicate and how do you talk about this? But then sometimes practice again in real life you do realize it is difficult to share. Here's the things that I would like to try. Here's the things at the top of my bucket list and being able to talk about it.

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Milla

It is hard. It's even hard for me. And I talk about this every day.

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Luna

Yeah, well, for me, that's part of it too, right? Because whoever I'm out with, it's usually not another sex industry professional. And so then I'm like, I feel this extra layer of pressure to like, be an expert, which I never have been. Right? Like, my whole thing is I ask people questions because I love learning directly from people.

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Luna

And now I've done a ton of other research but totally relate to that.

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Milla

I resonate with that too, because of the type of work that this is. It's almost like I have this fear that they expect me to be an expert in every single thing around sex and communication and all these things, but we're all still learning, right? No matter what, there's nobody that's professional and personal journey. We're all still learning and still practicing.

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Milla

And it takes practice like communication also takes practice. So yeah, something that constantly hopefully continue to learn to do.

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Luna

I mean, I'm kind of obsessed with practicing communication, especially sex related stuff, because that's always been something that has felt like a unfolding channel, a continuously unfolding challenge.

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Milla

Also, for me, I used to be incredibly shy, like incredibly shy, especially moving from Finland as a culture to Texas as a very different culture. I didn't really speak in school for probably the first six months. I was just a kid who didn't really say much in school at all because cultural norms, how you talk to each other, the fact that teachers called you sweetie, I thought that that was weird as hell, you know?

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Milla

You know, I went home and talked to my mom. I was like, I think my is a pervert. He called me sweetie and. Yeah, he's like, no, it's a Texas thing. Like, very endearing, you know? All right. But just getting used to the cultural norms. And so I was very shy, was having a hard time making friends. And if you would have told that girl at, you know, in middle school that one day you're going to be in front of like, 300 people talking to them about condoms and lubricant and how to measure your penis properly for a fitting condom.

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Milla

I feel like I would have just went straight to the floor and never gotten out. Yeah, I know, but so definitely a learning process.

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Luna

That is so okay. That's an interesting thought that I have not specifically thought about for myself because I too like as a middle schooler, very shy. What an awkward time in your life to to move across the world to a different culture like wow, wow. Also, I mean, well, we'll get into the penis measuring, but I have so many like brand new bucket list fantasies related to that.

00:09:10:04 - 00:09:22:20

Luna

I'm like, I'd like to line them up and just, okay, so I need people to apply and okay, okay, okay. So but tell us next what is sex to you and then what is sexy to you?

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Milla

Sex to me is anything that brings you joy and pleasure in a sexual kind of way. I think that's another thing where the early education is so much about penis and vagina and baby and don't do it tell you this age are married and that we don't talk enough about the good parts of sex and communications and relationships.

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Milla

And it's hopefully this positive, pleasurable experience with people that you care about and that care about you and your pleasure and your well-being in the process. Yeah, slightly to me is communicate passion, and I'm always going to go back to that. But somebody who's like listening and watching for body cues and also very into positive reinforcement, like let's not talk and give each other weather report there's sex.

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Milla

But like positive reinforcement I want to know that you're having a good time. Totally. That to me is important. And also this understanding that porn sex right is very perfect. Often everyone looks perfect, everyone knows each other's boundaries and what everybody likes, right? Versus sex in real life can be you got a communique. You know some. I want to know that if somebody farts, we can have a good time and laugh about it, right?

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Milla

I fall for that more times that I'd like to admit. And it's like I oh, want, I want to know that we can laugh and play together and have a good time. Yeah, not this clinical, perfect production of sex. Like, use the important in movies, but it's the whole experience.

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Luna

Totally, I love that. Yeah. I want to feel like I can bring my full self to the experience and be met and see who they are. Okay? So to whatever degree you feel comfortable, how important is sex in your life.

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Milla

From the work perspective? It's all I really do and that's what I love. Working at one Condoms is how do we help people have better, more pleasurable sexual experiences? And yes, a big part of that, what we do is making products that people actually want to use deeply, listening to our customers. Hey, what do you like about it?

00:11:32:07 - 00:11:57:18

Milla

What do you like about this condom? What can we be doing better? Because we are a condom manufacturer and we focus on innovation. And often that is driven by customer feedback. Like what types of products should we keep coming to the market and always doing something new, which is very cool. Yeah. And then it's also what I love about on condoms is just that there's a space for me to bring my sex educator self to this work.

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Milla

So doing afterschool programs for youth that are all about consent and sex and doing blogs about sexual health. And it's not just, hey, we got to sell a product, which of course we have to do. It's a company, we've got to sell products. But we truly believe in this mission of education and changing conversations about how people talk about sex and condoms, making it easier for each other to talk about condoms and safer sex and pleasure.

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Milla

So sex is very important in that space.

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Luna

Yeah, totally. And then can you tell us. Well, first, actually same question where are one condoms manufactured? Like where is your manufacturing factory. What is a plant.

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Milla

So our condoms are manufactured in Malaysia. And then we have one factory in Thailand. And then our office, our headquarters is in the beautiful town of Boston, Massachusetts. Nice.

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Luna

Oh that's awesome. I'm like, kind of obsessed with factories. Like, I love machines, I love robots, I love, like, automated processes that are organized and I always dream about going to all. I mean, I know that that's not the sexy part of condoms, but I'm always just, like, very curious. Also, since I interviewed Melanie Crystal of Laurel's and she was talking about how difficult it was to find someone to actually make make the product because it was for vulva owner pleasure.

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Luna

And so it's like I'm always just like, where is the factory? I think hers is in Malaysia too, I can't remember, okay.

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Milla

I also am a huge nerd for condom manufacturing. How they get made, the materials, even the regulations which are tangent but very cool processes. How do you bring new condoms to market? For us, one big goal has been sustainability. So we've been building factories with that goal in mind. So how do you think there was a certain way to maximize sunlight?

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Milla

So you don't have to use as much electricity? How do you collect rainwater because of the way condoms are manufactured and tested in the process. If in the testing process, there's a hole, because every condom is tested to make sure there's no holes in it, right, the machine will automatically discard a condom if it says, oh, something's wrong with this one.

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Milla

But then what do you have? You have waste left like rubberized. So instead of throwing that away, we take that and sell it to other rubber manufacturers who do rubber product. So instead of them having to make their own rubber, that's the way we can at least utilize that rubber waste in different industries. So it's very cool. I love what we're doing.

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Milla

Then I want to also think about sustainability. I love that.

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Luna

Will you ever be allowed to go to the factory or have you been to the factory?

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Milla

I have not yet been. I was supposed to go and then Covid happened, so I'm hoping I can go next year. Yeah, yeah.

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Luna

I'm just because like, that's like as a person I'm like, is there footage out there? I would just go watch it. Like that's the type of processing stuff that I love to watch and make. And maybe that's where my curiosity, my large curiosity, really, it's too large for one life. But okay, I'm excited for your future trip.

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Milla

I'll have to do a video of how condoms get manufactured that has a bunch of footage from.

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Luna

Yes. Okay. And we will link to it because I just love I love that. Okay. So tell us you've kind of given us a good overview, but if you had to put it into a clear answer like, how are you, Mila? And or also one condoms making the world a sexier, more loving place. We've heard about pleasure. We've heard about confidence.

00:15:12:00 - 00:15:14:02

Luna

But like, give us some specifics.

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Milla

To be the kind of person that you can come talk to about sexual health, relationships and really trying to even help people and find those conversations. How to talk to people. Like I mentioned, I might talk to a Lyft driver for 20 minutes about what a custom fit condom is, or I'm the person for a lot of my friends who have like teenage kids will they'll come ask me their questions because they don't want to talk to their parents necessarily, but they'll come talk to me or even in our customer service line.

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Milla

When we were first launching my own custom fit, I quickly realized that yes, a lot of the questions are around how do I find my size? How do I find a product? What lubricant specific to the product? But then you just see how much of it's also around, like anxiety about penis size or anxiety about being able to perform or relationships?

00:16:06:18 - 00:16:44:06

Milla

Because even though you're a customer service person at a kind of company, this might be the first time that this person has had anyone in their life. And they would often tell me, you're the first person I've ever been able to talk to about sex. And like, that's a lot. And that's incredible. And yes, I have to still balance this line right between like, I'm not a licensed therapist or right, and I still have like a job to do, but really realizing how desperate a lot of people are to just be able to talk about sexual health and pleasure and relationships and then trying to take all that that I've learned and try to live

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Milla

into that in whatever capacity on a daily basis that I can.

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Luna

Yeah, yeah. That's huge. So I first became aware of one condoms through a partner. I think this was pre sex stories actually. Yeah this was probably 2018 leading up to like where I was like going to do sex stories and I was collecting interviews and whatever. So I had a partner who made.

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Milla

A.

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Luna

Big huge deal about his penis size, which I have never identified as a size queen. I have always I mean, I'm pansexual, homosexual, bisexual, whatever you wanna call it. Like I like the person and figure that I can have pleasure with the parts no matter what they are. I've still never had a partner with a micro penis. Very curious, very curious.

00:17:24:12 - 00:17:40:07

Luna

But I had this partner that was, like, obsessed with, like, bragging about his girth. And I think he thought that, like, telling me his girth, size would, like, push me over the edge into a yes. And I'm like, no, dude, you just have to be kind and consistent and like, clear. And so he.

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Milla

Like.

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Luna

Told me about one condoms and he was like telling. I don't remember what his size was, but I remember he was going through a divorce. And so he would have his boxes shipped here to me and he'd be like, did they arrive? And I think this was like a little bit erotic for him, maybe. And so that was like my first awareness of the my fit.

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Luna

And then talking to you, I just learned about the flex their brand new. Right. Like that's a brand new line. So could you just tell us a little bit like about the sizing about like what one offers and just like maybe how it's different from other condoms out there.

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Milla

Sure. So one condoms is all about how do we help people have better sexual experiences. So we have all kinds of different products under the one condoms line, from glow in the dark fun to studded to red to extra lubricated. All the good stuff. We are the brown wrapper people. That's how I wanted to know where all the wrappers have.

00:18:35:00 - 00:18:38:02

Milla

Really cool are that we work with professional.

00:18:38:07 - 00:18:48:03

Luna

They feel really good to the texture, like they feel, and even the postcards like they're so nice. They feel like it's really nice matte feeling. And I'm obsessed with circles.

00:18:48:03 - 00:19:12:23

Milla

So thank you. Yeah. We've got one common thing that I'm sure most people have heard about is condoms don't fit me or they don't feel good. A lot of that is, if you think about it, if we had one size bra or one shoe, we would all lose our mind like some people's boobs would be flopping right out.

00:19:12:23 - 00:19:30:09

Milla

Some people would feel really uncomfortable because there's all that extra space. You're not confident if you have a shoe that's too big, what is it going to do? It's going to fall right off. Or if it's too tight, when you wear heels that are just way too tight, and then you get home and you have all those marks on your feet, it's not comfortable, it doesn't feel good, and then things don't feel good.

00:19:30:09 - 00:19:39:19

Milla

We tend to not want to wear them again. So kind of with that concept generally you might know that penises come in different sizes, I do.

00:19:39:19 - 00:19:58:05

Luna

I actually have experience here. While I haven't met a micro penis in person yet, I have many different size things. And also it's another thing of like 52 when it doesn't fit quite right, then I don't feel safe. And if there is one thing I've learned from sex stories over the years is that people have the sexiest, most pleasurable experiences when there's a clear container of safety.

00:19:58:07 - 00:20:19:17

Milla

Right? So then that's where my own custom fit came out of is. It has 52 sizes. And people will say, do you really need that many? And I would actually argue that we need even more. But so ten different lengths and nine different girdles and then 52 combinations of those. And one of the incredible things is how much you can increase someone's confidence.

00:20:19:17 - 00:20:44:21

Milla

And that's I've talked to thousands of people and their penises and the partners of people who have the penises around, the confidence when you can wear something that feels right and fits good and feels pleasurable, they're like, oh, now I can actually focus on the sex. And instead of the mechanics of the condom. Yeah, because some of the common condom fit issues are slip it right, like condoms are seven inches long, and sometimes they're also too wide for people.

00:20:45:03 - 00:21:05:01

Milla

And that's often not talked about enough. Right. Is that so many people actually experience that condoms fall off. That's not confident. That's not fun for you. And I've talked to people who will say, Mila, this is the first time in my life where I don't have to hold on to the condom during sex. Wow. You give a crappy experience.

00:21:05:01 - 00:21:31:01

Milla

That is, you have one hand that's holding on to like, that's not fun and doesn't feel confident. So that's a big thing that we're helping solve with my one. And then the other side is when people say condoms are too small for me, what they often mean is that it's too tight in circumference. Right. So actually, you may have seen the demonstration when somebody puts a condom over their arm, right, to prove how much condoms can stretch.

00:21:31:03 - 00:21:53:19

Milla

That is the number one goal that I have. This company is to stop people from doing that. I see the media and I see it. Even sex educators do it. I used to do it because that's how I was taught to talk about condoms, which assumes that every person that demonstration assumes that every person who says condoms don't fit me is a liar.

00:21:53:19 - 00:22:13:11

Milla

Trying to get out of economies and that's just a body positive way to talk about condoms. Assume that somebody is a liar, and putting a condom of your arm is very different than putting it on a penis. And not me was very different. There's a certain bone in your arm that can withstand a lot of that pressure versus it.

00:22:13:11 - 00:22:34:17

Milla

When you put a condom on a penis that's just way too tight. Two things typically happen either there's instant erection loss or people will say they call it the red ring of death, which is an old reference to an Xbox dying. But the rendering of that is it's basically why you have that mark on your penis. It's purple.

00:22:34:17 - 00:23:07:16

Milla

It's painful, but kind of like putting a rubber band on your wrist or a hair tying your wrist long, and that's what it leaves. So it's not fun or pleasurable. And what I've talked to so many people now about is there's so worried that the condoms going to cause erection loss, that this anxiety, there's already so much anxiety often, unfortunately, about performance and penis size, all this pressure that we can unfortunately put on people with penises that then they're worried that as soon as they put the condom on, they have erection loss and they have to explain to their partner why they're having erection loss.

00:23:07:19 - 00:23:29:06

Milla

It's not you. If the condom right, the all this anxiety that builds. So that's why with my own we can actually have different sizes that acknowledge that, oh wow, penises come in different sizes. Maybe they should have different suit sizes to where that how much it just experiences not only the confidence, but also the fact that the condom will work properly.

00:23:29:12 - 00:23:30:02

Milla

Yeah.

00:23:30:04 - 00:23:54:12

Luna

That is such a huge important point because obviously the physical sensation is a huge part of any physical pleasure interaction. But also, you know, we know that the mental component, this is the biggest sex organ, our brain. So it's like I know that if I'm nervous, but I if I smell weird or like it's the last, last day of my period and like, I don't know, I don't want like particle of your way everywhere on my sheets or whatever.

00:23:54:12 - 00:24:14:16

Luna

Like I'll be thinking about that. And then when it happens, I'm like, and I have also been with enough penis owners to know that if they are worried about their erection, if we talk about that at the beginning and they bring that anxiety into it, and maybe we're in a situation where they don't feel comfortable enough to slow down or they still really are focused on it.

00:24:14:16 - 00:24:30:20

Luna

It is a self-fulfilling prophecy like that. Fear begets the outcome. I know that in my own life, in non-sexual situations, if I'm scared of something, I get tense. Then if I think that things happen, my brain is like looking for that thing and I'm like, oh God, it's happening. And then it's happening, you know? And so it's like, that's definitely the case with erections.

00:24:30:20 - 00:24:51:17

Luna

And so like, I can absolutely understand how even just having a condom that I know is thinner or that I know is the right girth size for my partner would be a overall win from the outset, you know, and then the physical component is another aspect. Okay. Is there anything else to say about my one custom fit stuff, or can I ask you about graphene yet?

00:24:51:19 - 00:25:12:10

Milla

I have one more thing. Okay, with my own custom fit, their customer service, we start to very quickly realize that this conversation about fit was difficult for a lot of partners economies, because it's often the person with the penis, right? That comes to our website measures, but it's also their partners. Like, I've talked to wives and girlfriends who are like, I measured him.

00:25:12:15 - 00:25:38:23

Milla

I want to order this size sample. We test that we need a little bit longer, right. Like kind of taking control of this process. But it was very cool. And then I started to think about, well, I wonder if people out there have trouble talking to their partner about this. If you see like comments like always sort of slipping off or it always feel too tight, how do you talk to your partner in a respectful way, in a body positive way and say, you know what, let's try a different size condom.

00:25:39:02 - 00:26:01:18

Milla

So that's where Measure Penis Day. It's a holiday that we invented. That is a very first to to kick off National Condom Month. I love that. I all about how to help people talk to their partners about kind of it, where we even crowdsourced a lot of feedback, because I remember we were sitting in that conference room and we said, well, what advice do we give to people?

00:26:01:18 - 00:26:22:09

Milla

And I said, we have this treasure trove of customers who are so great at this. Let's send out a survey and ask them, well, how did you measure, how did your measuring process go? How did somebody ask you? And they came back with so many stories. It was amazing. Like I was like a construction worker and we worked it into role play.

00:26:22:09 - 00:26:41:12

Milla

Or I held up three different sizes of vegetables and said, what size penis is more like yours? Right? Like the key. And how to just be more positive. And a lot of it was also men or people with the pen and say, basically, look, if there's a better product out there that can feel better for me, I want to know about it.

00:26:41:12 - 00:26:43:16

Milla

Like just ask, yeah.

00:26:43:18 - 00:27:06:23

Luna

Dude, that's amazing. Also, I'm having a fantasy. I'm like, maybe I should do an event on February 1st and invite penis owners to come because I love inspecting genitals. So I have interviewed a number of brothel workers, you know, ladies who are legal sex workers in Nevada. And part of their like agreement process is called a dick check.

00:27:06:23 - 00:27:21:05

Luna

And so, you know, they do their financial negotiation and then they have to do a visual and like health inspection where they wear gloves and there's alcohol and they like have to, you know, pull on the cock and make sure the pre-comp is clear and all of that. And I'm like, that's so like, what a hot little medical roleplay.

00:27:21:10 - 00:27:26:22

Luna

So for me, the idea of like creating some sort of, I don't know, is that my first gangbang party? Kimberly, what do you think?

00:27:27:00 - 00:27:28:18

Milla

There's not a gangbang retreat. We'll see.

00:27:28:22 - 00:27:46:17

Luna

You know, because, like, I love measuring, I love touching, and I love actually like, looking at my partners genitals. And that's something that I used to feel really, really, really, really too shy to do. And I'm like, let's normalize that or not even normalize it. But like, let's show people how hot and cute and sweet that is. Like, that's so sweet.

00:27:46:17 - 00:27:51:13

Luna

So February 1st, but it's the whole month of February that we're celebrating condom usage.

00:27:51:15 - 00:28:03:12

Milla

Yes, definitely. And to kick it off is measure penis Day all about that. And we say it's about measuring a penis on your body or in your life.

00:28:03:14 - 00:28:17:08

Luna

I love that okay lovers, I would like you to go measure a penis and share the story about how that went. Dude, I feel like that's going to be my new pickup line to be like, hey, do you need your cock measured? I don't know.

00:28:17:10 - 00:28:18:12

Milla

I love it, I love you.

00:28:18:18 - 00:28:28:00

Luna

Do you have like a guide for people to measure on the website? I think you do. Right. And it comes with size guys. I have a lot of them and I am very. I have used it on one partner so far.

00:28:28:04 - 00:28:31:13

Milla

I love it and how did it go? It was good with her.

00:28:31:14 - 00:28:47:08

Luna

I mean, I'm very like nerdy, slow, process oriented. This part is like my cock is amazing. Yay! And I'm like, okay, okay, so I'm curious to do it with like more people that are slower, but we tested it out. This also is a partner who's not at all well, we were using the one flex because I was like, I want to try the new graphene feeling.

00:28:47:08 - 00:28:55:01

Luna

So we didn't get to go. I still wanted to do the measuring though, so we'll try that next time. But this partner is also very good about condoms historically. So it's like, yeah, it's also amazing. And I'm like.

00:28:55:01 - 00:28:56:06

Milla

Okay, so I want.

00:28:56:06 - 00:29:03:08

Luna

A more discerning partner to try with. But it was fun. It's hard. I love just like touching and playing and exploring.

00:29:03:10 - 00:29:23:19

Milla

I love that we have options for measuring because options is good. So the first is what you're talking about is the thick kit. So people can go to my slash fit can and download a printable version. You've cut it out and it's right on the kit. It's going to give you your girth number right 45 to 64, because you got to measure circumference.

00:29:23:21 - 00:29:46:13

Milla

And then the length letters, whether it's a C or an F or G. And then you just combine. So it could be 45 C 47 F. Kind of like bra size is amazing. Let me keep it clear that way. And yeah, we do send those big kids laminated ones to sex parties and sex educators. I have them in my life, usually my purse one because naturally I'm always talking about condoms.

00:29:46:15 - 00:30:03:09

Milla

And often people say, oh, condoms don't fit me. And then I can say, here you go, here's a penis. Yeah, I do, I do know they come in 52 sizes, so always ready with the fit kit. But we also understand that not everyone has a printer at home.

00:30:03:09 - 00:30:04:20

Luna

Or they're scared of papercuts.

00:30:04:20 - 00:30:14:22

Milla

Or scared of paper cuts, or maybe don't want to use their office printer to measure thickness and measure. And so, you know.

00:30:15:00 - 00:30:27:00

Luna

But also, maybe we live in a world where people stop being worried about getting fired because everyone's like, yes, we mostly have nudes and sex tapes out there. You can't fire at all. But yeah, right now we're not there yet.

00:30:27:02 - 00:30:50:19

Milla

Right? You can also take your own measurement. So length based tip and then circumference. So all the way around. And then you just enter those on the website and we tell you what size code you are. We even noticed recently that a lot of people are googling estimate my one size. I said, okay, well how could we help people estimate?

00:30:50:19 - 00:31:10:17

Milla

So we just published this blog yesterday. We have fun with it, right? Like what household items we use. Because if you don't have a measuring tape or a ruler, we looked up what if you fit into a Keurig cup? If you're about the circumference of a golf ball, right, like this is the length of a credit card so you can measure.

00:31:10:19 - 00:31:14:11

Milla

We had a lot of fun with it. Oh, I love that.

00:31:14:13 - 00:31:24:00

Luna

Oh, I feel like that could yield some really interesting stories too because it's like yeah. What household object is the size of your dick?

00:31:24:02 - 00:31:45:02

Milla

Or not? Everyone has a measuring tape at their house, so you can. But you might have a ruler so you could use. I've had people use like an iPhone cord or just a piece of paper. And length is easy to measure. Yeah, but circumference is harder, right? Without a measuring tape, you can just use. Yeah, a piece, a string or a piece of paper.

00:31:45:06 - 00:31:56:00

Milla

You wrap that around and then you figure out where it overlaps. And then you use the ruler to measure that. Yeah, lots of different fun ways. I mean, come on. Like the most fun science experiment you can do at home.

00:31:56:03 - 00:32:05:01

Luna

I think that's really fun. I do have a question for penis owners who have, like a fairly curved cock, do you measure the long side of the curve?

00:32:05:03 - 00:32:22:21

Milla

Yes, you measure the long side. So to make sure that the condom is long enough, because the most important thing is that it's going to cover from base to tip to give protection against any styles that are transmitted by skin to skin contact, but not so long that it hangs off at the tip or bunches at the base.

00:32:22:21 - 00:32:50:15

Milla

Because that's a really big challenge with standard condoms. Is because they're seven inches long. Hopefully this kind of covers everybody, but it is purposely longer than most penises, which are around five 5.5in. So condoms are too long for 91% of people, right? And that extra length can either hang off at the tip or people say like it's like length pants that are too long, like, yeah, they work, but it's not comfortable or bunches at the base and start to feel really tight because of all that extra latex.

00:32:50:18 - 00:32:51:13

Milla

Yeah, yeah.

00:32:51:15 - 00:33:02:03

Luna

Or holes can be grabby. And if things get vigorous, I have personal experience with extra nips causing like extra grabbing in the holes and then they can.

00:33:02:05 - 00:33:20:05

Milla

And that's terrifying. Yeah, exactly. Isn't lengthwise. That's important. And then so confidence or girth was that it's tight enough that it stays on, but not so tight that it's like an instant erection killer just causes that red ring of death or pain. So yeah.

00:33:20:07 - 00:33:36:02

Luna

It is funny that it's so normal where like, people who are classically penis owners might go to a tailor and get their next size measured to where the right fit of shirt like that's a completely normal thing. But like, this is I think you're the only brand that offers this specific level of measurement, right?

00:33:36:04 - 00:33:40:14

Milla

Yes. This many sizes? Well, only brand around the world actually, which is very cool.

00:33:40:15 - 00:33:42:14

Luna

Yeah, that is really cool.

00:33:42:16 - 00:34:06:09

Milla

And then the third one we have is we launched these samplers. You see them behind you there, the snug sampler. So that that's three different sizes snug than a regular condom. And then there's the classic sampler. So that's going to be a three different sizes to try out of the 52, around the size of regular condom and then large sampler larger than a regular premium.

00:34:06:11 - 00:34:15:21

Milla

What if you don't want to measure, don't have time to measure, you want to give it as a gift, and you don't necessarily know the size of that friend penis? Give them all three.

00:34:15:23 - 00:34:20:09

Luna

You're going on a first date. You don't know what to expect. Bring all the boxes.

00:34:20:11 - 00:34:34:18

Milla

Exactly that and part of that came out of questions from people saying, well, which sizes should I keep in my nightstand? I don't have a regular partner on dating, and I don't want to buy 52 sizes. That's a lot of money, right?

00:34:34:20 - 00:34:45:16

Luna

And then you have to, like, organize them. All of that would be a really cool, like treasure box, like, especially for a sex worker. Oh, man. Like, you know, they have the tea organizers. Oh.

00:34:45:18 - 00:34:50:13

Milla

It's like, okay, we're going to measure and then we will take one out of this treasure trove I love.

00:34:50:15 - 00:34:53:23

Luna

I might have to have that on my February 1st gangbang date if I make it there.

00:34:53:23 - 00:35:15:22

Milla

Oh, so one of my goals also with my one, this dream plan that I've had for years now, is this mobile van that's like decked out, really cool. And people walk in and it's a new age way to do a glory hole. Basically, like somebody gets their rent first. They get to pick from materials to get them around.

00:35:15:23 - 00:35:36:00

Milla

It might be a magazine, it might be a video, whatever it might be. Then it's basically put your penis in a hole and then it measures. I don't know how to technological this. This is not what I'm good at. So if there's any engineers out there that can help me, and then the machine just spits out your perfect condom and you test it on, oh, I need something a little longer or wider.

00:35:36:02 - 00:35:41:22

Milla

That's the dream. How to make a happen? I don't know, I think about it all the time, but, you know, do.

00:35:41:22 - 00:35:57:08

Luna

You even know that my great dream is to have a mobile dungeon? But I call it a play ship because it's a place to play, full of creativity supplies. So including regular arts and crafts and all the sex toys like. And that could be like the vending machine at the back of it. And Glory hole. I mean, I'm Glory hole.

00:35:57:08 - 00:36:10:14

Luna

Curious. I never have yet that's on my bucket list. Experienced a glory hole. So that is I love that idea. And you know where there's the dream? Someone else can figure out the specifics. We have to be the visionaries and then invite the people into that process.

00:36:10:14 - 00:36:15:00

Milla

I love that it's like, what? Oh my gosh. Damn.

00:36:15:00 - 00:36:22:20

Luna

Okay, so one day we'll get there. But in the meantime, tell us about graphene, because this is a new innovation.

00:36:22:22 - 00:36:26:09

Milla

Yeah. So we just launched this two months ago.

00:36:26:11 - 00:36:28:12

Luna

In time for cuffing season.

00:36:28:14 - 00:36:59:00

Milla

Perfectly. And for cuffing season we launched one flex. So it's under the One condoms line where it infuses latex with graphene. Graphene being this very, very, very cool nano material that was discovered in 2004 by two physicists. And very quickly after that, every industry has been trying to figure out how do we use this nanomaterial, because it's the strongest material, the thinnest material, and the most conductive material ever discovered.

00:36:59:02 - 00:37:20:08

Milla

NASA uses it and then for about a decade, we've been in the R&D pipeline, figuring out how to work that into corners. Because when it comes to new materials and innovation, we're all about it. Yeah. So just launched it to the market. And it's very cool because the graphene helps make the condom super thin, super strong and super flexible.

00:37:20:08 - 00:37:40:01

Milla

Hence the name flex. And one thing that's really cool about it is that LaTeX on its own is an insulator. If we're going to get real nerdy about something, let's do it. Let's get real condom nerdy right now. So latex on its own is an insulator, meaning it traps body heat and doesn't help transmit heat between partners as well.

00:37:40:06 - 00:38:03:10

Milla

So what's cool about graphene is that when you add graphene to the latex, it helps improve heat transfer by 85%. So you feel a lot more the body heat, the skin on skin sensation in a different way than you would with just a regular latex condom. That's so cool. And what's cool about it is that latex, when it tends to get thinner, right?

00:38:03:10 - 00:38:31:01

Milla

Because a lot of people would like to have a thinner condom so you feel more your partner. But when latex gets thinner, there's less material to stretch. Therefore, sometimes thinner condoms, thinner latex condoms can feel tighter, like they can feel tighter, hence might cause erection loss or might cause the rendering and death or whatever. So the cool thing about when you bond the graphene molecules to the latex, it helps make that condom stretchy.

00:38:31:01 - 00:38:59:11

Milla

So even though it's thinner, it's super thin, feels good, you feel more. It also feels stretchy and more flexible so it doesn't feel as tight as a regular latex thin kind of me. I love that. The one thing that I also love about when condoms and working there is we're vegan friendly. We're not GMO, we don't use chemicals, so we're very much into making products that feel good but also aren't good for you.

00:38:59:11 - 00:39:09:04

Milla

And we're constantly trying to improve our products. Think of new ideas. We have three very cool products coming out next year that we're already prepping for that I can't talk about yet.

00:39:09:05 - 00:39:14:17

Luna

So you have to come back and do a podcast update. Oh, I love new things. Oh, I love innovation. Oh, I'm so.

00:39:14:17 - 00:39:17:15

Milla

Curious what they are. Okay, yeah.

00:39:17:17 - 00:39:32:09

Luna

I want to jump back to a thread. We sat down earlier and we were talking about sex and a little bit. Do you feel comfy sharing what your sex education was like? You said that it was like abstinence only, and you said there were a couple of like, shaming stories in there. Do they feel like relevant?

00:39:32:11 - 00:40:01:13

Milla

Yes. The first one was I had a biology class in middle school where for about six weeks, this teacher from a place of love. I'm sure, was talking about how in six weeks there's going to be a class on reproduction and it's going to be awkward and it's going to be a difficult topic to talk about. So literally, we were being kind of trained in our mind that it was that reproduction and penis size and vaginas and pregnancy.

00:40:01:15 - 00:40:04:12

Milla

It's awkward to talk about for weeks. And then.

00:40:04:14 - 00:40:05:18

Luna

Priming.

00:40:05:20 - 00:40:32:18

Milla

Everyone. It's just primed to just not want to talk about it or ask questions. Right. Wow. And it wasn't even anything awkward. It was just, here's how reproduction works. This is what a penis does, but evolve on a vagina. Not that they would ever use the term vulva, right? Right. Unfortunately. But just being primed to think about sex in a shaming kind of we don't talk about this.

00:40:32:18 - 00:40:37:10

Milla

It's going to be awkward, for sure. It was very strange. Yeah. Dang.

00:40:37:12 - 00:40:55:20

Luna

It's also so interesting, right? Because all of the shame that our teachers who aren't, you know, a biology teacher is not necessarily like they have the tools to teach sex ed, but not the emotional toll. It's also like doctors, doctors in this country receive very little, if any, like sex ed related, like the human part of sex. And so that's what we're hopefully filling in the gaps.

00:40:55:21 - 00:40:57:12

Luna

What was the other story?

00:40:57:14 - 00:41:20:16

Milla

We had a outside abstinence only educator come to the class. Oh, it would have been better for them to not come at all. To be honest. They taught us that condoms mostly have holes in them. So, you know, don't trust them when I have never understood that as a lesson, because all that does is make sure people don't use condoms.

00:41:20:16 - 00:41:43:19

Milla

It doesn't necessarily deter people from having sex. But the thing that I'll never forget is they lined up ten boys, and then one girl went to the front because of course, women only have sex with men, I suppose. And she was given a pink heart made out of cardboard. And then one by one, the boys came up and tore a piece of it for a piece.

00:41:43:19 - 00:42:05:08

Milla

And then at the end they had her hold it up and say, this is what happens to your heart if you have sex. And I was mouth open and shock attack. What? But also being very shy and not being able to be like, what the fuck is going yeah, yeah, yeah. And also thinking at the time like, oh well, ten is kind of a lot of people, right.

00:42:05:08 - 00:42:25:05

Milla

Like I was like 15 at the time or something, but just the shame and just the assumption that men and women only have sex together, that there's some kind of magic about the number ten and that you're like value and your worth as a human and how you experience and sex and pleasure connected in that same kind of way.

00:42:25:05 - 00:42:26:19

Milla

It was just terrible.

00:42:26:23 - 00:42:44:01

Luna

That is so sad to me because also it's like, well, that doesn't need to be the case. If we live in a world where taking care of each other, it's the norm, and maybe the education could be about like, how do we speak to each other with compassion and make sure we're on the same page about what the connection of sex actually means for both of us, etc. then of course, they're not going to teach that.

00:42:44:03 - 00:42:47:03

Luna

They just got a scared. That's so sad.

00:42:47:05 - 00:43:11:03

Milla

It's so sad, right? And just thinking about how the people who because I'll never forget it, I'm sure there's people in the class that never forgot it. And how a lesson like that can. Yeah, especially learning it as a teenager impact how you go experience pleasure and sex and relationship going forward. It just makes me really sad and I hope that they were able to get more positive lessons.

00:43:11:05 - 00:43:25:22

Luna

Damn that makes me want to make an opposite version where it's like a heart shaped balloon and partners come by. It's like, this is what sex could be like. When you select the right people who are on the same page, you know your heart gets bigger and bigger, like the Grinch swelling, filling to ten times his Grinch size.

00:43:26:00 - 00:43:44:00

Milla

Wow. The other thing they did too, and this used to be in sex ed lessons. Hopefully not so much anymore as they kind of have people hold up signs like anal sex, oral sex, kissing on the neck like all these different. And then they asked the people in the class to like, put them in order, like what goes in what order.

00:43:44:02 - 00:44:02:01

Milla

And then of course, you're having conversations like, well, this should go before this and you're kind of arguing. And the whole point of this lesson is supposed to be like, see, you should even start kissing on the neck because it might lead to oral and anal and foot play and all this stuff. And like, you're not going to be able to control it once it starts happening.

00:44:02:01 - 00:44:15:15

Milla

So just don't even do it to begin with. And it shows up because we're teaching people that we have absolutely no agency and not teaching them about consent. Right. So yeah, what are these lessons to stop them?

00:44:15:17 - 00:44:45:01

Luna

Dude, that also explains why so many people just think of sex as a penis and vagina. And then the penis comes and then it's done because it's like, if all those things are just gateway drugs and not just a part of the smorgasbord of pleasure, it's like, no wonder people are so confused. No wonder there's so much focus on specifically hardness and not overall partnered pleasure and the whole experience like, damn well, we could definitely redo that lesson as a like arrange it for someone who likes butt stuff the most.

00:44:45:01 - 00:45:03:18

Luna

Arrange it for focus on the vulva. Owner arranges, you know, like, let's redo that. Oh, okay. I'm getting all kinds of ideas for future retreats. So as a sex educator, as someone who has spent so much time and energy teaching other people about safer sex and pleasure, what do you wish modern sex ed were like? Not all the details, but just like a little overview.

00:45:03:18 - 00:45:07:06

Luna

Like what would in your perfect world, it kind of like look or feel like.

00:45:07:08 - 00:45:28:17

Milla

It's all the good stuff and being more inclusive and understanding that people have experienced pleasure and have sex in different ways. I wish there was a whole beginning of it that just ask people to explore their own like values, whether it's personal, cultural or family values, and then how do you kind of set that and then start talking about sexual health?

00:45:28:19 - 00:45:40:04

Milla

I wish condom demonstrations were more than just how to put a condom on a banana, right? Like talking about sex and size and the different styles. And how do you talk to your partner about condoms.

00:45:40:06 - 00:45:57:03

Luna

Or even penis size? I remember the first time I was with a smaller person and I was like, are they weird that they're small? Or should I be weird? We're not connected. Is it because of that? Should I say something? Should I not say something? They haven't said something. Is this this condom clearly doesn't fit. I don't. That was before I knew there were different size condoms.

00:45:57:03 - 00:46:06:17

Luna

So it's like if someone had ever been like, there are different sizes because this was early on in my life and it's fine. You know, I just wish someone had given me that tutorial back then.

00:46:06:19 - 00:46:27:14

Milla

Right? And that is a big part of what we do now, even with my own custom fit, is educating the educators. Like helping them like have tools or starting a whole process. Talk to doctors when they ask the condom question. A big part of it is this education. And I also wish sex had talked more about relationships. Yeah, right.

00:46:27:16 - 00:46:52:11

Milla

How do you reject somebody if they hit on you in a kind way? Or how do you, if you're not feeling somebody not just goes them right. Like how the relationships and communication in a way that's more respectful in the teenagers in my life, that's often what they come talk to me about is like, oh, somebody sent me this, or like, they're asking me to do this, but I'm not ready.

00:46:52:11 - 00:47:09:06

Milla

And they say, yeah, but you would do it if you loved me of like, how do you people, like, navigate these difficult conversations or that can't be tricky or right if you haven't practiced or don't know how. Yeah. How can you be kinder towards each other when it comes to conversations about sex and relationships?

00:47:09:06 - 00:47:29:04

Luna

Ultimately, yeah. I mean, I'm I'm a decade and a half into my own life as a sexually active person, and it's only in the last few years, after talking to millions of people, that I've learned to sort of, like, frame things in the positive and compassionately thank them and let them know what I am available for. And then if there's pushing, I'm like, I don't understand that, you know, that I'm creating those boundaries, too.

00:47:29:04 - 00:47:46:05

Luna

And also getting to know my own boundaries. And how do I decide? I mean, this is something that's an ongoing process. How do I decide what I want to do with whom and when, and then add into that how like dumb I get when I'm horny, you know, I have to make some, like, concrete advances.

00:47:46:06 - 00:47:48:10

Milla

Yeah.

00:47:48:12 - 00:48:02:00

Luna

Is there anything else to say about your formative career? Stuff like we went, you know, you became a sex educator. You were curious about sex, but is there anything else in your, like, work history that is fun to know about?

00:48:02:02 - 00:48:22:09

Milla

I think it always has this little tie back to condoms, which is so funny. Like, I feel like I was meant to come work at one condoms, right? These weird educational lessons about condoms in high school pass out a ton of condoms in college, did the sex ed stuff. Then I moved to New York City after college. And did I pass out a lot of condoms?

00:48:22:09 - 00:48:37:05

Milla

Would life be at concerts and stuff? Cool. And then one condoms ended up being one of the PR clients. And then I came to work for them. So amazing what there was always intended to come work here and I'm very happy that I did, I love that.

00:48:37:06 - 00:48:46:20

Luna

Would you give us a little overview of what? Like, I know it's probably not the same thing every day. It sounds like it's very different, but like day in the life, week in the life, and like the sexiest and least sexy parts of your job.

00:48:46:22 - 00:49:10:13

Milla

Day in the life. Working at a condom company is it's a little bit of product development, right? Working with the product development team on where we are in terms of bringing new condoms to market, where are the clinical trials that like what kind of materials are we testing next? Which is very cool, bringing some of that feedback from our customers to the product development arena and saying, okay, what can we do about this?

00:49:10:13 - 00:49:34:10

Milla

Can we do something about this? It's marketing figuring out, like, how do we educate people about condoms? We do condom fashion shows, not where people wear the condom, which would also be very cool. Yeah, it's made out of condoms. It's called Project Condom. So we work with all kinds of universities, organizations as a way to get people thinking about condoms in an event that's also fun.

00:49:34:12 - 00:49:43:00

Milla

That's not just the sex ed one on one lecture, but it's, oh, look at all these cool condom costumes. And then would you like to take some kind of fun with you?

00:49:43:01 - 00:49:46:10

Luna

I love that, and it sounds like you're also talking to people a lot.

00:49:46:12 - 00:50:10:13

Milla

Yes. That's another thing that I really love. I've had the pleasure of presenting about Condom Fit at the National Sex Ed Conference, Harvard, all kinds of events where I just try to sneak myself into going to talk about kind of education and kind of reframe this conversation around commons and condom fit. And so that's one of my favorite parts to do.

00:50:10:13 - 00:50:35:12

Milla

I used to be so shy about public speaking, and then I just was like, you know what? The only way that I'm going to get over this is to just go and practice. And what more fun can I talk about them? Penis measuring 50 to 200 people, right? Like you're just going to get over your fear of public speaking very fast when you have a penis behind you and you're like, hey everyone.

00:50:35:13 - 00:50:48:23

Milla

I brought different sizes of penis models, not people. You know, maybe that's a class picture, but dildos, essentially. And let's figure out how to measure these together. Right after that. You just get over it pretty quickly.

00:50:49:02 - 00:50:58:16

Luna

That's so cool. Do people ever come up to you afterward and, like, overshare personal stories? Because I'm like, for me, that's the dream, right? I love hearing those stories, but that's probably not necessarily your goal.

00:50:58:18 - 00:51:25:09

Milla

All the time. And I think that's why I love the work that I do, because I'm like, I don't know if you experienced it too. It might be a line at the coffee shop and you randomly talk to the person in front of you and they ask, what do you do? Which is a pretty common question. And then I say, I work at a condom company, and then all of a sudden now they're talking about, you know, how they're experiencing pleasure after their divorce or it's here's this thing that I like to try with my wife.

00:51:25:09 - 00:51:47:22

Milla

How do you think I should bring it up to her? And I'm like, we were literally strangers five minutes ago, and now we know so much about each other. I made a new friend. You met a new friend. We talked for an hour and we had a good time. So I think that's one of my favorite parts of the job, actually, is just totally the way that people can open up to you when they realize, like, oh, this person might be able to help me with this thing that I want to talk about, but don't know who to talk to about that.

00:51:47:23 - 00:51:48:22

Milla

Yeah, I.

00:51:48:22 - 00:52:10:07

Luna

Love that so much. I think people are mostly just looking for a non-judgmental sex friend, and it was in my work as a regular, like before I started doing erotic photography and videography, like just headshot clients, you know, when I started exploring kink and I was like, oh yeah, I'm in this new kind of relationship. And then I just started getting stories and I was like, I love these stories.

00:52:10:07 - 00:52:25:23

Luna

My friends aren't telling me stories anymore because they're like partnering up and they don't want to share the details. And so that was actually like my gateway. My openness was my gateway drug to sex story. So I love that you love that. Here's a question. You work in the sex industry. You make your money from a sex related product.

00:52:25:23 - 00:52:29:02

Luna

So do you identify as a sex worker?

00:52:29:04 - 00:52:45:08

Milla

That's a really interesting question. I don't think that I am in the past identified that way, but I suppose in a way I could, because yes, I talk about sex. I work with products that are about sex. So in one way, yeah.

00:52:45:12 - 00:53:04:19

Luna

Yeah, in like a literal definition of this, you know, it's not to like discount. My personal thought here is like and now I am dabbling in other parts of sex work. Right. But as a podcaster, like, people were like, ooh, like treating me very sexy. And then I was like, where is the fucking line? And like, is it my literal brain is like, well, I literally am a sex work person.

00:53:04:19 - 00:53:11:06

Luna

So is that a sex worker? I feel like the more we broaden the definition, the more helpful it is for everyone. I don't know.

00:53:11:08 - 00:53:15:17

Milla

And does it ever get like it feels like too much?

00:53:15:19 - 00:53:43:06

Luna

Always. I mean, specifically, yes. And also there's also something for me that's been so much easier about identifying as a sex worker, because as a podcaster, a lot of people expect me, especially because I'm so open, I am friendly, I do love listening to people. And so they think that, like if they're in Los Angeles, that I can always just like drop whatever I'm doing, like as if I don't need money to eat food, to go meet them for coffee or lunch or dinner or breakfast.

00:53:43:07 - 00:54:06:23

Luna

Now that I say, oh, I'm a sex worker, please pay me. And then it makes it very clear who's actually interested in supporting my lifestyle and my actual mission to make the world a sexier, more loving place. And I started to say to people like, are you trying to distract me from my favorite research? Like, are you? Because in my personal life, people know that I'm a workaholic, but I have created a life where my work is my greatest joy.

00:54:06:23 - 00:54:34:08

Luna

So like, why the fuck would I just stop everything I love for someone who doesn't value me? You know? And so for me, becoming and identifying as a sex worker and I'm I haven't yet shared the depths to which I've been exploring. And that's coming. It's coming and it's divine timing. But I think it's important, especially in this line of work, because I also get a lot of messages from married people who think that I'm just like a free on demand girlfriend.

00:54:34:08 - 00:54:58:23

Luna

And I'm like, no, you can go interface with me on Sex Panther and when I'm there, when I make time for that, like, that's how we can play, you know, clear contracts. I'm sure you've experienced creepiness that we don't need to get into details of, but it's like go in the clear container people. Like, if you want someone who's if you want to skip all the steps of trust building and interpersonal connection, and you just want sexual gratification, pay the person, pay them.

00:54:59:00 - 00:55:21:18

Milla

Yeah. Exactly. Right. Like just because we talk about sex doesn't mean that I want to have it when you're not into me. Yeah, and yeah, there's clear containers. This is professional. This is my life's greatest pleasure to talk about this. But there's a boundary there. Yeah. And yeah, sometimes I'm like, well, can we also talk about, like, my love for potatoes or whatever.

00:55:21:19 - 00:55:24:20

Milla

Like I do also like to talk about other things.

00:55:24:20 - 00:55:44:04

Luna

Yes, I like other stuff too. I'm a whole person. I know it's wild, right. You know. And at the same time I do want to have sex. And at the same time, I'm teaching people how to create clearer invitations that are irresistible because there is that connection. And I think getting on the same page about mutual connection is what creates like delicious overlap.

00:55:44:06 - 00:55:57:11

Luna

I would love to hear your personal thoughts on like, why are you great at what you do? You're a great speaker. You have a passion for what else? Maybe like sparks for making you a great person, for educating people about kind of it.

00:55:57:12 - 00:56:17:10

Milla

I really care about the work that I do, and I believe in these products. And sometimes when I go to educational spaces, they look at me first as the marketer, right? Trying to market them something. So that's something that I've had to try to work on, is to also help people understand, like, I really believe in this product.

00:56:17:10 - 00:56:40:06

Milla

And because I have now read sometimes very detailed customer reviews about how a perfectly fitting condom helped change their sex life and how they experience condoms, and how they practice safer sex, that I want more people out there to find that. Like if you hate condoms because they don't fit right, I want to find you and talk to you and then, you know, tell you that I want to test it out.

00:56:40:06 - 00:56:51:02

Milla

If you don't like it, I accept that. That's fine. But how do I find those people out there? Because I really do want people to experience condoms in a different way and to give consent a reputation.

00:56:51:04 - 00:57:06:03

Luna

Absolutely. And on that note, like, I would like to hear kind of what insights about humanity that you've gained through your work, maybe including like the weird whoopsie I imagine you have to jump through for social media, like navigating the online spaces.

00:57:06:05 - 00:57:33:00

Milla

Yeah, it's interesting. Even as we try to advertise on social media how often we get rejected because our mixed Pleasures variety pack is literally called Mixed Pleasures. And they say, well, I know it's the product, but can't say pleasure or technically, even though I see yeah, or even I see ads for lubricant all the time, which I'm technically not allowed.

00:57:33:02 - 00:57:57:20

Milla

Yeah, but I see them. But that's like a category. It's like, yes, you can advertise condoms solely for the purpose of preventing STIs or pregnancy, not for pleasure. And definitely can't talk about lube. And what's always been challenging is it's not a level playing field for all brands, whether it's brands have way more budget and then they let them get away with whatever they want, let them get away with.

00:57:57:20 - 00:58:05:05

Milla

I hate that term, but that's how they see it. So it's not this level playing field even running ads. Dang.

00:58:05:07 - 00:58:14:12

Luna

Do you feel comfortable saying or is there like a shareable version of how your work has influenced or informed your own sex life?

00:58:14:13 - 00:58:38:06

Milla

Listening to how often men or people identify men or people with penis talk about the kind of it and condoms. And just even for myself, reframing that conversation, I learned that too, right? Like I was taught as a sex educator to do the condom of the arm demonstration and was very much saying to people, oh, when people complain about kind of it their lives, right?

00:58:38:06 - 00:59:04:11

Milla

Like, I thought that I was doing a good thing. And I look back at them and say, oh, I was not doing a good thing because I learned I'm now had heard all these stories about condom slippage and it not fitting right. And what better experience is when a condom actually fits right. Yeah, that I've had to like, reframe how I even talk to people about condoms and no, I can't take back the way that I used to educate about it, but now I do.

00:59:04:13 - 00:59:11:19

Milla

But now I'm trying to help find the people out there that would like a better fitting condom, and hopefully they can find one. Yeah.

00:59:11:21 - 00:59:21:20

Luna

Do you feel like, I mean, you do a job where you help other people gain this confidence in this part of their life that is really impactful? Does that boost your own confidence?

00:59:21:22 - 00:59:47:06

Milla

Definitely. And hearing stories of other people like having a better time. Oh, they read educational material that we have about lubricant and now they're using lube. But how much is it increasing their pleasure and comfort during sex? One thing that I asked our customer service person to start doing a few years ago is once a week when we go through all the reviews to see, you know, which ones should we respond to?

00:59:47:08 - 01:00:19:21

Milla

Save it to our like bank of like, oh, look at this cute review is they send a list of the top funniest ones. The cutest has the most inspiring ones to our staff. Just like, oh yeah, because it helps remind us all that yes, work can be stressful and it's budgets and it's deadlines and it's all emails and how do I clean my inbox kind of stuff as a cute little weekly reminder about how much our products are helping people experience pleasure, have more confidence in the bedroom, have more confidence in their condom use.

01:00:19:23 - 01:00:22:05

Milla

And I think it really does help, you know you for.

01:00:22:05 - 01:00:22:21

Luna

Sure over here.

01:00:22:23 - 01:00:35:07

Milla

Kind of laughing and having a good time and we share those stories. But as a way to remind ourselves that yes, work is work, but how our work can really help other people have better sex out there.

01:00:35:09 - 01:01:01:02

Luna

I love that so much. My mom growing up was always like, make your work, your play. You'll never have to work a day in your life. And I think I took her like literally at a level she wasn't expecting. But, you know, I think bringing in that element of play, no matter what we're doing is huge. And I know that for me, hearing feedback from listeners about like, how the podcast has helped, that is what keeps me from quitting this mostly passion project of five years, you know, because it's like that is the fuel.

01:01:01:04 - 01:01:30:13

Milla

I was at a conference years ago where met Dorie. Yeah, she had this incredible class all around play, and one of the quotes that always resonated that she said was one of the saddest things that happens to us adults is that we stop playing right, like we don't go and swing on swings anymore. And we had depending or role play or whatever costumes and how that's like really sad.

01:01:30:13 - 01:01:53:18

Milla

And I really always remember that. That's why even in California recently, where I was there, like, I saw this beautiful swing on the beach and I went and I swung in that swing an hour when it was so fun. And how do you bring that element of laughter and play also into your relationships and your sex life, and forget that we're all in our children, and we all generally used to love to play?

01:01:53:18 - 01:02:01:16

Milla

And I don't mean to generalize it, but playing is fun. And how can you bring that laughter and joy into the various relationships and experiences that you have?

01:02:01:20 - 01:02:22:03

Luna

Yes, my. So my favorite podcast is the Huberman Lab. It's a neuroscience podcast, and there's an whole episode on play, and it talks about how that is actually how we learn, especially about social strategy hierarchy. And it's how we try stuff out. And it's like, it's hilarious to me that that entire episode does not mention sex. I'm like, do you hear yourself right now?

01:02:22:05 - 01:02:38:22

Luna

But but everything is directly applicable and I would recommend everyone go listen that because for me, you know, I did get into that kind of like productivity narrative that I think is very common to our society. And I like redid my whole life when I was 27, you know, seven years ago, and made sure to include time for play.

01:02:38:22 - 01:02:45:23

Luna

And I constantly have to kind of like reassert that value and reassert like, what does play look like for me today? Because it changed.

01:02:45:23 - 01:02:46:11

Milla

Me.

01:02:46:13 - 01:03:04:02

Luna

You know, I want to play the same game over and over and over again, and sometimes I do, and sometimes I have favorites on that note of work stuff and office stuff, like do you have protocols for like how you talk about explicit stuff at work? Is that something that you guys have to think about at all? Or like, what is the communication vibe like professionally for you?

01:03:04:04 - 01:03:23:02

Milla

It can be tricky working at a condom company, right? Like we talk about where the first condom officially FDA approved for anal like, and then we had a whole campaign that was but stuff approved. Like, you know, every company has also like a sexual harassment policy. And some of the things I like don't talk about sexually explicit things at work.

01:03:23:02 - 01:03:32:22

Milla

And then everything kind of has like an asterisk since like, please also understand that we work in the sexual health register, which. There.

01:03:33:00 - 01:03:53:18

Luna

I mean, that's so for me, parsing the specificity of those social signals is a lot. And also on some level, how do you draw from your own experience and share the wisdom that I think is important from our own lived experience. But I guess I have to be like, friend told me their experience was that I heard from a listener or a user.

01:03:53:18 - 01:04:13:17

Luna

You know, I heard from a client, customer, this thing, you know, because it's because it's also, like in every other industry, our personal experience is allowed to inform those conversations professionally. But it's like, this is something I'm thinking about a lot as I, an independent artist, am working with more brands and more other professionals because I'm like, wait, how much is too much?

01:04:13:17 - 01:04:18:10

Luna

What is an overshare in this space? You know, and there are no clear guidelines that I've found so far.

01:04:18:12 - 01:04:40:15

Milla

Right. And it is even at the office, you're going to naturally connect with certain people on an more friendship, deeper friendship level versus some people you're connecting like on a different type of level. So some people you might share those personal stories, right? Like, oh, this product. And I tried it. Yeah, at home. And let me tell you about how that went.

01:04:40:21 - 01:04:49:01

Milla

And like, you know what, you're comfortable sharing what it feels okay to talk about that. So it's also just how you interact with certain people versus others maybe.

01:04:49:01 - 01:05:00:11

Luna

Yeah. Which goes back, I think, to your original point of like learning how to communicate about sensitive topics when everyone has different boundaries, different comfort levels and different just like experiences.

01:05:00:11 - 01:05:02:14

Milla

They're right.

01:05:02:16 - 01:05:10:14

Luna

You gave us a little overview, but is there anything else that you are excited to explore or grow in your work going forward?

01:05:10:16 - 01:05:35:14

Milla

I'm excited about bringing my own custom fit education now to doctors, right? Like we've tested it on the market now for six years. We know that people love it. So now, how do we find educators who talk about content, doctors who might be asking about condom use? We're doing some like research studies with universities like, pre and post surveys about like once they try and like, what are they more likely to use condoms?

01:05:35:16 - 01:05:53:23

Milla

Really taking this like educational part of my own and kind of it to a whole new level. I'm really excited about that because it combines my favorite, my one with education. Really excited to see where flex goes and how the heat transfer of it and see how people like it. Get more samples of one flex into the world.

01:05:53:23 - 01:06:06:14

Milla

If you want to sample, let me know and listeners out there and then you have some really cool products. Like I said, coming out. Can't quite talk about them yet, but really excited about what's coming for 2024. It's going to be a super fun year.

01:06:06:20 - 01:06:12:12

Luna

I got a sneak peek and I can agree with that wholeheartedly.

01:06:12:14 - 01:06:19:20

Luna

Okay, and if you could wave a magic wand and teach everyone in the whole wide world something about sex, what would it be?

01:06:19:22 - 01:06:30:07

Milla

I'd say have fun. Like learn what brings you joy and what brings you pleasure. And then hopefully you can find people that you get to play like that with. I love that.

01:06:30:09 - 01:06:45:05

Luna

And then if you could go back in time understanding that how life unfolded is perfect as is, and we all are who we are because of our experiences. But in this hypothetical scenario, if you could go back in time and give younger you a piece of sex advice, what age or ages would you pick and what would you say?

01:06:45:07 - 01:07:06:20

Milla

I would probably go back to that high school lesson. I would pop right after. After the abstinence only people came to class and I would say, hey, here's some other things that you could think about instead. Like these people had a goal in mind. Their goal was to scare people into not having sex. But don't take this to heart.

01:07:06:20 - 01:07:18:11

Milla

Don't hold this with you. They're doing what they think is right. But here's some lessons about consent and pleasure and all that good stuff. Instead. Yeah. Fuck yeah.

01:07:18:12 - 01:07:32:00

Luna

Okay. And now time for a fantasy brainstorm. If we suddenly lived in a world where everyone had to be a sex worker for two years, how would you serve?

01:07:32:02 - 01:07:40:09

Milla

I would serve probably what we were talking about earlier as like an official penis measure. Like, I love that.

01:07:40:12 - 01:07:46:12

Luna

I'm imagining, like, fancy gloves, like a cool high neck outfit, like a little bit dominant looking, I don't know. Okay. Yeah. What's your.

01:07:46:12 - 01:08:02:17

Milla

Version? Yeah, that's how it would be like driving in that car around America. Like that's what it would probably be. Or saying, hey, have you tried the flex condom or have you tried to glow in the dark condom? You know, just being more hands on with the condom education maybe.

01:08:02:19 - 01:08:14:04

Luna

Oh, I love that so much that I'm imagining like a special tape measure that you can alcohol off really easily, but it's like your golden tape measure or silver titanium, you know, some maybe graphene, I don't know.

01:08:14:06 - 01:08:16:20

Milla

Yeah.

01:08:16:22 - 01:08:38:18

Luna

That's awesome. Okay. And now, I mean, you're mobile glory hole condom dispenser is a great idea. And if you had an unlimited budget to build the perfect playroom, dungeon, castle, or just add on to this, maybe make a fleet of them for you and or one condoms, what would it look like? What would it be like? What would it include?

01:08:38:20 - 01:08:51:21

Milla

It would be that mobile condom measuring glory hole tool, for sure, and then having just a whole fleet of them and a website that has, oh, now visiting, you know, mobile, Alabama. Right.

01:08:51:23 - 01:09:10:13

Luna

Like I'm like, imagine if we had one of those in every state and it just hit major cities every week. You know, so that's always within a 30 minute drive of somewhere at some point during the year. You know how when we were little, they had booksellers come around to school. Exactly like that is so amazing that that is exactly the type of stuff that I dream off.

01:09:10:15 - 01:09:14:09

Luna

Any other thoughts? Anything else you want to say or share?

01:09:14:11 - 01:09:30:01

Milla

I think that's all I have. I mean, I've had such a fun time talking to you. I feel like I've made a new friend and I can talk to you for hours. So we have a lot of really creative ideas that we got to get going to. So I'm just so thankful of being here and getting to talk about condoms.

01:09:30:01 - 01:09:31:15

Milla

My favorite topic in the world.

01:09:31:17 - 01:09:46:20

Luna

Absolutely, lovers. You can find one condoms online at one condoms.com, my one condoms.com and Global protection.com. Go click around. There are resources and links. It's amazing. Mila, thank you so much for being a guest on Sex Stories.

01:09:46:22 - 01:09:48:08

Milla

Thank you so much.

01:09:48:10 - 01:10:08:00

Luna

I also played with a new lover this week. An amazing synchronicity who had no idea. I had literally been researching this brand and exploring all the products, and he was a girthy dude who came prepared with his own coverage, which in itself is hot. And I got so excited when I saw the circular packaging. And for me, it was next level turn on and I could not help but do a mini embed interview.

01:10:08:00 - 01:10:38:03

Luna

And he said yes. His sex life totally changed when he finally started using condoms that actually fit, and we had a great time with them. And I personally only have one data point so far with one flex condoms, but it is a very good data point and I will keep you posted on my future explorations. And if you are an established on camera content creator, open to be measuring you and doing a simultaneous play and interview session on camera, I am extremely graphene curious and I am working on content to celebrate Measure Happiness Day, February 1st.

01:10:38:05 - 01:11:07:05

Personal Shares

Hi everyone, I just wanted to give a quick shout out to my one and their team. They are a brilliant product that has been transformative for me in my life. As a young man, I struggled looking for condoms that were the right fit for me. I'm much larger than average. I'm 8.5in long by seven inches in girth, so finding condoms that were comfortable that even fit me was always a challenge.

01:11:07:05 - 01:11:24:11

Personal Shares

I just never could. You know? I would buy the competition's condoms that were like, extra large, but I could never roll them on. I always had to stretch it out and, you know, try to place it on and it would be awesome. And I was about to start having sex with someone to try and, like, figure out how to make a condom work.

01:11:24:13 - 01:11:46:01

Personal Shares

Fast forward a few years. I got married, so it wasn't necessarily a concern at that point. However, throughout the pandemic, my wife and I discussed the idea of introducing non-monogamy into our relationship, and it was something we were really excited by, but we didn't want to do it unless we could explore it safely. And condoms were at the very forefront of that list.

01:11:46:03 - 01:12:15:13

Personal Shares

So that led me down a path of just trying to find a company with the right product, and it ultimately led me to my one day provided all the education necessary to understand, you know, how to find the right condoms. They gave you the resources with a sizing tool they provided sample condoms of sizes around whatever it was that you measured, and they gave you the option to figure out, you know, what works best.

01:12:15:15 - 01:12:33:17

Personal Shares

And through that, I got a lot of firsts like, I literally mean it when I say was transformative. I figured out how to actually roll condoms onto myself because I found the condom that actually could do it. It was the first time that I had a condom on that actually was my size. That didn't break when I had sex.

01:12:33:17 - 01:12:59:06

Personal Shares

So my comfort levels went up extremely high, and it has literally transformed, you know, not just my life but our relationship, because now we're able to navigate something, you know, that was a fantasy at first, but now comfortably take that and safely as well to the next level. And you know my one. I'm going to just thank you so much for being a part of that and for providing such an excellent product.

01:12:59:06 - 01:13:24:07

Personal Shares

You guys are brilliant and I will not stop buying your products. And I really do look forward to the day you guys release a non latex version, because that would be next level. In any case. Thank you guys so much. Earlier in life I was so disappointed and tight ill fitting condoms. The tighter the less sensation and anytime I went online I ordered some and the fit makes a world of difference.

01:13:24:12 - 01:13:51:13

Personal Shares

After I found the exact model, I began to experiment a little. Since motion is a big part of sensation, I put some lube on the last couple inches the inside the condom and it's like wearing nothing. It's like I say, if my partner's not having fun, then I'm not having fun. But of course that's vice versa too. So now that I'm like 66 and I'm truly blessed and it's all still working, this is making my golden years golden.

01:13:51:15 - 01:14:12:00

Personal Shares

I used to have a lot of trouble having the sex, and then I tried my one condom and it's really good. And I no longer have the smaller condom, the regular one, squeeze my penis so hard that I lose erection. So thank you. Thank you, my partner. Thank you. No more babies for me.

01:14:12:02 - 01:14:33:02

Luna

Okay, lovers, because I'm currently obsessed with one condoms. I thought it might be interesting also to read some my one testimonials. You've solved the number one biggest drawback of wearing a condom. Few companies do it for a fee, so it only makes sense to do it for our other parts. Thank you. That makes sense. Another one being just under four inches.

01:14:33:02 - 01:14:50:01

Luna

It was very hard for me to use a regular condom. Getting past the comments about how small my penis is by every girl I've been with. Oh man, people say that out loud. Tim. Does that happen to you guys? It was even harder trying to hold a condom on with one hand the whole time. It was awkward and embarrassing.

01:14:50:01 - 01:15:07:16

Luna

My one condom has changed that 100%. The condoms actually fit. And furthermore, when I had questions about the size of the condom, their size specialists were very helpful. They made me feel like I wasn't the only man who needed smaller condoms. Very true. They come in all shapes and sizes, and that C length condoms that I needed were very common.

01:15:07:18 - 01:15:11:08

Luna

Thanks again my one. My confidence has grown. So much.

01:15:11:10 - 01:15:11:12

Milla

Of.

01:15:11:15 - 01:15:25:08

Luna

Them. Here's another one I've actually seen out in the wild the view that because you can fit your fist into a condom, that it'll suit any sized penis. I don't know about you, but you can fit a cat in a.

01:15:25:08 - 01:15:27:00

Milla

Face, but that doesn't mean it's.

01:15:27:00 - 01:15:33:17

Luna

Comfortable. That is an interesting analogy. Those fuckers get in there all the time. It's ballocks.

01:15:33:19 - 01:15:35:14

Milla

Wait, what?

01:15:35:16 - 01:15:38:03

Luna

Cat's going in Vegas? This is a thing.

01:15:38:05 - 01:15:41:18

Milla

Thank you for making my penis more comfortable, I love that.

01:15:41:20 - 01:15:56:15

Luna

Okay, another one being slightly smaller than average. I needed something that didn't slip. Standard condoms had too much excess at the bottom. I found the exact size I needed and it's perfect. No movement at all even makes me feel a bit bigger. Rolling the full lock down my shaft.

01:15:56:17 - 01:16:02:10

Milla

I'm looking to wrap this one first. The first sentence all caps took 50.

01:16:02:10 - 01:16:12:06

Luna

Plus years to finally find a condom that fits. Never could really enjoy sex fully because of condoms that nearly strangle away all the sensation. Love your product.

01:16:12:08 - 01:16:13:18

Milla

You love that.

01:16:13:20 - 01:16:37:15

Luna

Here's another one. If you wanted to see something truly horrifying, put my boyfriend's member into a standard condom. Oh, I get what you're saying, but I hate that word horrifying in relationship to any cock. Sure, it stretches around completely, but it looks like a horrifying, tightly stuffed sausage and was incredibly uncomfortable for him. XL condoms were better, but they were noticeably more uncomfortable for him, and he had a serious problem staying hard in them as well.

01:16:37:17 - 01:17:02:04

Luna

With these. Now that he's comfortable, he's able to stay hard and we get to truly face the big sausage problems all the fun without worrying about all the unwanted kids. Yeah, I mean, that's a good point because if you're dealing with a larger size, then like, what do you really want to be worrying about? Is is the receiver warmed up enough to receive that, you know, you don't have to be worrying about the squishes and the softness is another one.

01:17:02:04 - 01:17:23:19

Luna

I got these for my boyfriend to try. He was super skeptical, but was really pleasantly surprised at how well they fit. It really does feel like nothing and fits his larger penis size perfectly. Not too tight. It doesn't slide off either. Definitely will be getting more smiley face. I love this one. The only condoms I've found that are small enough for smaller guys.

01:17:23:21 - 01:17:43:01

Luna

Having a condom that fits correctly is more of a turn on than I ever would have thought. Oh, I love that. I want to hear those sex stories. It's not only more comfortable, but a huge confidence booster. Having real options when it comes to the size of a condom is very important to me. I have hidden condoms for 15 years because they were either too tight or Magnum.

01:17:43:06 - 01:18:01:00

Luna

Everyone deserves to have pleasurable sex without sacrificing safety. Oh I love that. That is so true. This is a super solid product. I was self-conscious of my size because I could not fill the length of a regular condom. Oh, they are made long, you know that's true. But the width was always too tight. Happy to find my one custom fit.

01:18:01:00 - 01:18:19:18

Luna

The fit helps reduce anxiety or awkward pause time. I had no idea how good a condom could feel. These just rolled on. They fit perfectly and it felt like they weren't even there. They have given me a new lease on sex I bought these a month ago. Wow! The confidence I have in bed is through the roof. No worries about slipping or falling off busting the base.

01:18:19:18 - 01:18:47:12

Luna

I can actually focus on my partner now. Use the fit kit provided and you will get an absolutely perfect fit for your penis. The best thing that has ever happened when it comes to condoms, I love it. I like how they squeeze me and how more natural they feel. My partner also gets a bit more pleasure with how they fit me, a more natural feeling, instead of being too tight or baggy or excess rubber, etc. that person sounds like they have many different pieces of penis sizes.

01:18:47:14 - 01:19:09:16

Luna

I went through the sizing exercise that my one has and sent off for the sampler pack. Perfect fit, perfect feel. It was as easy as putting on underwear because of my larger girth size. Regular condoms greatly prevented feel, was actually painful sometimes, and would leave an indented ring no longer an issue. Feels like I'm not wearing anything and comfortable.

01:19:09:18 - 01:19:28:18

Luna

It's nice knowing a company actually understands that there are more than maybe three sizes of equipment. I've never found a condom that didn't have a death grip on me and hindered my performance. But now I have options to try and I've found some comfortable ones. Much appreciated. I used to avoid condoms engaging in risky behavior because I couldn't sustain an erection while wearing one.

01:19:28:19 - 01:19:36:15

Luna

My one has literally changed my life and I have sex that is safer and has more sensitivity than any other condom I have felt.

01:19:36:17 - 01:19:39:18

Milla

Thank you.

01:19:39:20 - 01:19:50:17

Luna

Lovers. If you try one condoms and have revolting stories, visit Sex Stories podcast.com and leave us a voice memo. And I love to hear stories that include safer sex practices, so.

01:19:50:18 - 01:19:51:12

Milla

Keep us posted.