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Luna

Our guest today is a 28 year old monogamous, pansexual system who is single. She is into receiving foot worship, latex rope, both suspension and bondage. Receiving bouquets of beautiful flowers and being flown all over the world for dates. A sex worker based in Chicago. Welcome, Isabella Bloom. Hi, Isabella. Can you please start out by telling us if you had to rate yourself today on a sexual shaming meter, with ten being the most full of shame and one being, I'm totally shame free.

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Luna

Where do you fall today? Right now?

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Isabella

I would say.

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Isabella

Today is actually a really good day. I'm on at one totally shame free.

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Luna

Yeah, I love that. Okay, when if ever, does it fluctuate for you?

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Isabella

It fluctuates every day.

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Isabella

Really? Okay. In what context? Why? I don't know, I just.

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Isabella

I think it just depends, like, I think some days maybe I feel there's so many things that go into, like, you know, sex and how you feel about yourself and how you relate to that. And it could be, you know, self-image, esteem, you know, just how you're feeling that day mentally, emotionally, maybe something like an interpersonal. So like it's just really for me, it's all over and I kind of just let it.

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Isabella

Like, I, I'm very accepting of the fact that maybe some days I'm going to be very I don't know, I guess, for lack of a better word, prude and just want to be like, you know, no sex for me. And then other days I'm like, ravenous with hunger and I'm, you know, pouncing on everybody.

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Isabella

So I think it's just, you know, it just.

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Isabella

Ebbs and flows.

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Isabella

I love that. When do you.

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Luna

Feel the sexiest? When do you feel the most ravenous with hunger?

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Isabella

For me, it's when I can, like, really tap into my silly side. Like when I feel really comfortable and I feel like I can just, like, be myself and be a little silly and like, you know, I feel good about my body. I feel, you know, like my body doesn't ache or, you know, I feel like movement feels good.

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Isabella

I put on a really hot outfit. Maybe my favorite shade of lipstick, you know.

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Luna

What would you say today is your favorite thing about sex?

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Isabella

Well, I mean, everything.

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Isabella

I mean, all of it.

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Isabella

I think connecting with other people and yourself, to me, it feels so intimate. Even if you're not, you know, like in love with the other person or you don't have that particular bond, like, in and of itself. To me, it's a such an intimate thing. And I love being able to like, share that with other people and explore somebody else and explore myself by doing that.

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Isabella

So yeah. Yeah.

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Luna

I don't know if you feel this way, but I definitely feel one of the things that I love about being a sex worker is just connecting with so many different energies. It's like unique.

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Isabella

Flavors.

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Isabella

Yes. It's amazing. I'm fortunate every day that I get to meet people and connect with them in a way that I would have never been able to.

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Isabella

If.

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Isabella

I didn't do what I did.

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Isabella

Yeah.

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Luna

So I would love to hear your opinion. Big question. No pressure. What do you think? We need to make the world a more loving place. That's.

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Isabella

I think that's so complicated.

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Isabella

But it's simple.

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Isabella

I think it's just kindness, you know? Like, are you being kind to yourself? Like, do you wake up and, like, is the first thing you think a negative thing about, like yourself or about the day or are you, like, always kind of combating like what? Society and maybe like the voices of like our parents or like other formative voices in our life.

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Isabella

Like, what are they saying? Or are we like combating that with like our own, like validation and like kindness and like growing off of that?

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Isabella

So because I.

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Isabella

Think if you're kind to yourself, then you're kind of other people.

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Isabella

Yeah.

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Luna

What a practice too. I think that's definitely my first layer of filter for allowing new humans into my life to like is kindness and respect their. If yes.

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Isabella

Pascoe, move on. Proceed. Yeah.

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Luna

Okay, tell us now what officially counts as sex for you in your mind?

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Isabella

Wow. That's hard, cause I've had full on experiences with people where we didn't even kiss. And I was like, we just had sex.

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Isabella

Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I don't. Yeah.

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Luna

Wait, do you mean that in the literal sense? Like, because I now have had sex with. I actually like having sex with people without kissing a lot.

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Isabella

I know, I mean, like, not like not even like.

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Luna

Oh, I see what you're saying.

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Isabella

I see just like, we just had this, like.

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Luna

Real connection.

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Isabella

Oh, yeah. The fucking brain. Fucking. Oh. You know, that's definitely not in line with.

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Luna

Your very classy branding.

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Isabella

But like. No, like like. Yeah, it's okay, it's okay. Well, I think because what a lot of.

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Isabella

What I do is I sit across the table at a beautiful restaurant with this, like, gorgeous dining tasting menu, and we're indulging all of our senses. Right. Such a turn by smell, taste, you know, and the person sitting across the table from me most of the time we get to indulge in each other and really just, like, dig into each other's brain and like, learn so much about each other.

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Isabella

And that to me is like very sexual and very erotic.

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Isabella

So yeah.

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Luna

I'm going to jump ahead and ask you a question that is based on one of my personal fantasies, since you have, I assume, experience with foot worshipers. So first I'm going to tell you my fantasy, and you can tell me if you've ever done something like this so badly. I would like to go on a dinner date with someone who has a foot fetish to a place that has, like, white linen tablecloths, and I want to play footsie with them underneath the table all dinner long.

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Luna

Have you done something like this?

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Isabella

I have definitely played a lot of footsie with people.

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Isabella

At a dinner.

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Isabella

Party thing.

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Luna

With people who have foot fetishes.

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Isabella

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Luna

Did you get crazy turned on. What is.

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Isabella

It like. Yeah. It's very fun.

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Luna

Literally living my dream.

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Isabella

I love that I've been at restaurants before where it's either like across the table and I'm like, you know, I'll take off my heel and I'll kind of like inch my foot closer to, like, their area and like, tease them. And I've also not at restaurants, but just either maybe actually it has been at a restaurant before, but also just like at home and stuff where like while we're eating or doing something, I'm just like sitting next to the person and I'm just putting my feet into their lap and kind of like, plain and like moving around.

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Isabella

Yeah, it's a lot of fun. You have to do it. You want to so bad. I just need to find.

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Luna

The right partner. Okay. Tell us now what is sexy to you, Isabella?

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Isabella

I would have to say communication. Yes. And honesty. Generosity is very sexy to me. One of the things that I always remember the most whenever I've been on a date, that turns me on to outside of the bedroom, is how they treat other people that don't owe them anything. So when they're so generous to like a random person on the street or, you know, whoever, if we're at dinner, like the waitstaff, whoever it is, I'm like sitting across the table, like, I'm going to eat you up.

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Isabella

Like, this is very sexy. Yeah.

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Isabella

It's such a good point.

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Luna

You are reminded me so one of my lovers over the summer. I'm realizing that that's exactly why I'm so turned on by them. Because it's just such a huge, generous spirit. And when I see them appreciating other people, I'm like, oh, I'm going to appreciate the fuck out of you later. Yeah. Okay, so tell us now what sort of sex talk, sex ed, consent, education, etc. if any did you receive growing up?

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Isabella

Well, I went to Catholic private school growing up.

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Isabella

Oh, so that so that tells you anything? Not so. Yeah.

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Isabella

My sex education, you know, in my formative years was next to nothing. The first thing we ever had in a school setting was in middle school. And it was a abstinence event. I don't know, it was like a field trip, like we went to this other place and there was like a big presentation of abstinence. And by then I had already had sex.

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Isabella

Yeah.

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Isabella

And I was bullied by everyone because people knew that my, like, my classmates were like, basically like I was like, you know, the Scarlet a.

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Isabella

M or.

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Isabella

Whatever, you know? And I was just like, I'm like, it's not that big of a deal.

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Isabella

Okay? So, you know, you when you do it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Even though I didn't.

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Isabella

Have a lot of education around like anything that involved like sex positivity or like sex safety, I definitely knew from a very young age when I was being, like, taught abstinence or like, sex shamed. I was like, that's kind of weird. Like, why would we do that?

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Isabella

Yeah.

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Isabella

Maybe I didn't, like, have the words to, like, combat it, but like, intrinsically, I knew, like, oh, yeah, you know, it's a little off.

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Isabella

It's kind of incredible that.

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Isabella

In high school we had like health class, but it wasn't health class.

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Isabella

But do you.

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Luna

Remember ever getting an explicit lesson about consent? Because I didn't even start hearing about it until all the meat. Okay, okay. Not you too. Okay.

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Isabella

Yeah.

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Isabella

I mean, we grew up in a time where that wasn't talked about the way it is talked about. Now, I don't know when it changed. Maybe like in the mid 20 tens is when I started to hear about consent as like a concept and like that was, you know, but prior to that I don't think it was talked about, at least I don't remember it being really talked about amongst my peers or anything like that.

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Isabella

So yeah.

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Luna

It definitely did not enter my personal sphere until I was fully an adult, like, you know. Yeah.

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Isabella

Same. Yeah.

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Luna

What would you say your best qualities are as a lover?

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Isabella

Oh, this is a cute question. I would say I'm.

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Isabella

Very attentive.

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Isabella

And.

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Isabella

I think I have very soft touch and like, I think a lot of the times the feedback I get from partners is that my touch and presence is, like, very warm and healing and nice to be around. Oh, I think I'm also very generous in bed, so.

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Luna

Can you tell us a little bit about what your sex life is like right now and your favorite parts?

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Isabella

I'm having sex all the time.

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Isabella

Congratulations. I, I was going to be like, I'm having sex right now. I'm just getting.

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Luna

Someday we'll be doing those interviews.

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Isabella

It's just not this one. Yeah.

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Luna

That is the next goal for sex. Like, literally next. I'm like, all right, I got to find everyone who wants to do OnlyFans with me. And we'll do the interviews and then we'll do the combined version.

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Isabella

Oh that's awesome.

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Luna

It's really what I do. I just did a month of edging all September long, so I didn't come all of September, but I did masturbate for OnlyFans every day. I was going to do 6 to 9 minutes, but I ended up doing like 10 to 15 minutes and it was so hot and I talked the whole way through.

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Luna

I told stop talking and I'm like, I would love to find people who would let me do this while we're fucking, you know, like, that is really fun. Yeah, you lost sensation play or toys or explorations like, you know, because it's my educational mission and my curiosity is. So I love that you have sex all the time. That's amazing.

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Luna

Wait, but tell us, like.

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Isabella

Do more than once a day. Like specifics. It varies.

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Isabella

So I guess it's hard to say like an average, because.

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Isabella

Sometimes there.

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Isabella

Is like a period where maybe I'm not really having.

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Isabella

Sex. Okay.

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Isabella

You know, I think just like, you know, when we talked about the meter of like 1 to 10 of shame, I think that's also tied into my libido. So sometimes I'm not feeling sexual or in the mood to have sex. So then there's like a period of time where I'm not really doing much, but then I find, like other parts of my life, obviously, like, you know, as one thing goes up, the other thing goes down, you know, as it goes, or they all go up at the same time, and then I'm like running around like crazy percent, like doing.

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Isabella

Everything and anything. Yeah, I really feel that. Can I ask.

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Luna

How is that for you having fluctuate since sex is part of your.

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Isabella

Work? I think at this point in my career and in my personal life, I've become very accepting and accustomed to, and I just know what to do and how to get myself in the mood. And I think with work specifically, I have such a ritual around, you know, getting ready for work and like, there's such a ritual to it that that gets me in the mood, even if I'm not in a period where maybe I feel as sexual.

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Isabella

So I can like harness it when needed.

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Isabella

Yeah. Yes. Hot.

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Luna

Also this is totally a projection based question, but I have finally started to admit out loud that I have a money kink and receiving money absolutely turns me on because it's a concrete show of value, and especially between the podcast and between my own personal history of relationships. There's so many times where I love to be generous, like give, give, give, give, give, give, give, and so many people are just takers.

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Luna

It took me years to figure out the imbalance that was happening in my life. Do you also experience turn on from receiving concrete shows of appreciation of energy?

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Isabella

I definitely do, yeah.

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Isabella

Like literally exactly what you said is also my experience where I'm a huge giver. And like I also noticed, you know, not recently, but, you know, like a while ago I realized like, oh, like I'm giving and people are taking, but there's an imbalance and like, how can I balance that out? And so now I'm more conscious about, you know, like giving and then allowing to receive.

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Isabella

That's a big thing. Like allowing the room for reception is something that I think some people need to learn and other people just are, you know, intrinsic to it.

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Isabella

Yeah, I'm definitely I definitely need it.

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Isabella

Yeah. I'm still learning. I definitely needed to learn, like how to receive and not feel the need to give in return or at all. You know, it feels good to know that I'm appreciated and have that concrete thing that shows that that like gives value to me, whether it's like money or gifts or whatever it is. So yeah, I think we're both in a great line of work.

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Isabella

Then.

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Isabella

You know, so.

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Luna

I would actually love to hear. Do you have any wisdom on your process around receiving, like, what kind of opened that up for you?

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Isabella

I think it comes from an awareness, right? Because you don't notice it until you're aware of it. And to become aware of it. For me, it was through therapy and realizing why I feel the need to give and where that comes from. Like, I think now I'm at a place where when I give, it's because I just want to give.

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Isabella

And before, you know, years and years ago, I think it came from a place of like, I need to give to this person to prove my worth and to feel worthy and like for this person to value me, I have to give them something. And now it's more so like, no, like I am worthy just being.

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Isabella

And I.

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Isabella

Have value just being here and being me.

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Isabella

So.

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Isabella

I can give detach from that. And just to show appreciation for another person. And then in that space where maybe not so much, it almost feels like a frantic anxiety when, you know, like back in when I would be giving to like prove something or whatever. And now that that's not there, there's all this space.

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Isabella

Yeah.

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Isabella

For allowing other people to just, like, come to you and just give you things or whatever it is or just give and you can just accept it as very nice.

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Isabella

Yeah.

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Isabella

So it was a whole process. Lots of therapy.

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Isabella

Yeah, yeah.

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Isabella

And trial and error. It's a constant learning.

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Luna

Night, right? And maybe lifelong for me I don't know. I feel like I go through waves and fluctuations.

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Isabella

Yeah. Sometimes I feel like I'm really good. I'm like, yeah, I'm doing it. I'm you know, it's like the moment you say that you're perfect at it and you've got it. That's when like something happens and you're like, oh no, I have so much to learn still. It's it's basically like relapsing in a sense. You're like, I've relapse.

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Isabella

I've done the thing that I'm trying not to do anymore.

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Isabella

But sure.

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Luna

Well, I also think of it as spirals. Right. It's like we're learning a little something new every time and like hopefully receiving a little bit more or in a slightly newer, different way. Although I definitely have days where I'm like, dammit, that's the same exact pattern. Okay.

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Isabella

Yes. Yeah, yeah. Do you have.

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Luna

A story or an example of a moment where there was like a clear, explicit, yes, that was really sexy.

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Isabella

I have so many. Yeah, I will take one.

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Luna

Just one for now and then we can get into more later.

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Isabella

Yeah, I would say.

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Isabella

So many of my experiences, professional and personal, have that. Some of my favorites are whenever someone wants to try something new, maybe that they haven't tried it before. A lot of the times I think it has to do with fear.

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Isabella

I can see very excited right now. I really.

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Luna

Want to ask about foot jobs and are.

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Isabella

You good at them? And do you have those good jobs out there?

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Isabella

Yeah, I am very good at them. I like doing them. It's so much fun.

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Luna

How do you do them? What makes you good at them?

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Isabella

I think what makes a person really good at it is obviously communication. And then the other thing is being creative, because there's so many different ways you can be positioned like you and the other person. It is kind of a workout, like you're really like depending on what position you're in, the person doing the foot job is like getting a lower abdomen workout.

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Isabella

I'm like doing ab crunches, basically with my leg.

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Luna

Well, my lazy version. I also have really long legs, but my lazy version, if the other person is the right size, I put them. If they're a penis owner, I put them in my lap and I put the legs around and then I make them hold the feet and do the motion. And that's really fun for.

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Isabella

Both of us. I haven't done that yet.

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Isabella

I will do that.

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Luna

Yeah, yeah. You have to have the right body shapes, you know what I mean? And that's the other cool thing is like so many different sizes and shapes have fun overlap.

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Isabella

Yeah.

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Isabella

But it's usually foot related. It's usually like asking.

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Isabella

If I.

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Isabella

Can do like a job or like putting my feet in their mouth or like getting really excited and saying, like, I want you to do this. And like, you know, will you do it? And I'm like, yes, of course. You know, it's hot. I like being asked like anything. You know, I also have like, I love, like when I'm on a date and someone is like, can I kiss you?

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Isabella

I'm like, that's like I'm like, of course that's.

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Isabella

How you're going to get the rest of your life.

00:18:48:07 - 00:18:50:06

Luna

What's your favorite style of kissing?

00:18:50:08 - 00:18:52:06

Isabella

I love Olive, oh, I love it.

00:18:52:09 - 00:18:53:21

Luna

Depends on the moment okay.

00:18:53:23 - 00:19:14:12

Isabella

Yeah, I think it depends on the moment. I love kissing and I think I love my favorite type of kissing is kissing. That starts small and then, like, progresses like. I love starting from a very, like small like pecks. Just like little kisses, like no tongue. Just kind of like being very soft. Like feeling each other and then, like letting it builds.

00:19:14:14 - 00:19:22:02

Isabella

Let's love doing that. Oh, I love yeah. Also spread kisses. Oh, it's so sweet.

00:19:22:04 - 00:19:38:03

Luna

I love so I'm a big fan personally of I love eyebrow kisses. I don't know eyebrows and like so cute. I used to have a boyfriend that would kind of like, nibble my eyebrow and like, I love to just, like, smooch someone else's eyebrow. It's like very, very sweet to me. And I'm a big fan of little nose kisses always.

00:19:38:05 - 00:19:39:20

Isabella

Of course, I.

00:19:39:20 - 00:19:57:11

Luna

Would love it if you could take us through your formative sexual timeline. And you can work, work in work however you please, but maybe like hit the formative moments starting with where do you first remember hearing about sex or thinking about it like when did it into your sphere of awareness?

00:19:57:12 - 00:20:00:08

Isabella

Oh my gosh, I was such a naughty child. Oh well. Okay, so.

00:20:00:08 - 00:20:01:22

Isabella

I was exposed to.

00:20:02:01 - 00:20:29:02

Isabella

Sexual things at a very young age. I don't know why it was like this, but I think my father just didn't really think much about it. But he would always play, like all the movies he liked to watch and all the shows and like the places he enjoyed going where like very sexual. And so like, I was like very young watching Austin Powers and like, you know, very sexual, like funny, funny movies too, but like very sexual things.

00:20:29:02 - 00:20:38:05

Isabella

And so I just never thought anything of it. And I just remember, like, you know, of course there's the classic Barbie, right? You know, I'm taking my Barbies and I'm like.

00:20:38:07 - 00:20:42:03

Isabella

Me too. Scissored on. I'm like.

00:20:42:05 - 00:20:49:03

Isabella

Having all sorts of weird. Somehow Ken is always in the corner, watching in the midst of five other girl Barbies, and they're all, you know.

00:20:49:08 - 00:20:52:02

Isabella

It's very specific.

00:20:52:04 - 00:21:16:06

Isabella

So that was like when I was very young. So as I got older and was, you know, teenager or preteen era, I started to realize like, oh, I'm being noticed in this way. And I'm also having these feelings. When you're a teenager, your hormones are like, I don't think mine ever went away. But you know, you've got the crazy teenage hormones.

00:21:16:08 - 00:21:17:21

Isabella

Well, and the newness, the newness.

00:21:17:21 - 00:21:18:07

Luna

On top of.

00:21:18:07 - 00:21:20:17

Isabella

Everything. Yeah. What is this feeling?

00:21:20:19 - 00:21:32:15

Isabella

Yeah, I love okay. So it's a little sidebar. So sometimes with like, partners, like I've, I've been on dates before, like on a first date and like, we're about to have sex and I'm like, be careful. I'm a.

00:21:32:16 - 00:21:37:14

Isabella

Virgin.

00:21:37:16 - 00:21:43:10

Isabella

I'm ready. Please. Have you done that? Until I do it a lot. Oh, that's so funny.

00:21:43:10 - 00:21:45:04

Luna

Wait. Do they they get it to joke.

00:21:45:04 - 00:21:47:08

Isabella

Or do they. Yeah. Oh, no.

00:21:47:08 - 00:21:52:14

Isabella

They get it's the joke. And I think they really like it. They're like they're like, oh, I'll be gentle.

00:21:52:14 - 00:21:53:12

Isabella

Oh.

00:21:53:13 - 00:21:54:00

Luna

That's so.

00:21:54:00 - 00:21:58:05

Isabella

Sweet. It's. Yeah.

00:21:58:07 - 00:22:23:09

Isabella

So I love, you know, that feeling you saying the newness made me think of that because I love that. Even still today, I feel like I try to incorporate that into my sexual experiences. But yes, I think when I was a teenager, I was just that I was sneaking out of the house. I was at the beach. I grew up in Florida, so I'd be like at the beach in Florida, having sex with my boyfriend and like, yeah, doing all sorts of crazy things.

00:22:23:11 - 00:22:37:21

Luna

Yeah. I mean, is there anything specific that you feel like sharing with us from those times? Like, I love to hear formative like kisses or fucks or oral stuff or hand stuff. Like, what kind of like shaped you in those younger years that feels relevant to share.

00:22:37:23 - 00:22:39:21

Isabella

A lot of dry humping.

00:22:39:23 - 00:22:41:10

Isabella

Love dry humping.

00:22:41:12 - 00:22:44:05

Isabella

I know it doesn't get talked about enough. I don't think.

00:22:44:05 - 00:22:45:05

Luna

Not enough.

00:22:45:05 - 00:22:55:10

Isabella

Or I know it's like something that like I used to do a lot as a teenager, and now I try to incorporate it with people because that's such like a hot moment when you're in that foreplay.

00:22:55:12 - 00:22:55:18

Isabella

Yeah.

00:22:55:18 - 00:23:07:18

Luna

Or I also love to grind on people's legs or I'll take off my panties, or I'll get wet through my panties and like, rub on a leg if I'm going down on someone or something. Like, I love having that stimulation. So I've brought, yeah, humping and grinding and.

00:23:07:19 - 00:23:08:05

Isabella

Yes.

00:23:08:05 - 00:23:13:04

Isabella

All of those things. Yeah. So I did a lot of that as a teenager. Let me think.

00:23:13:06 - 00:23:16:01

Luna

Well, do you want to share your sexual debut story?

00:23:16:03 - 00:23:17:17

Isabella

Yeah I can't and so it was.

00:23:17:17 - 00:23:20:06

Isabella

With my boyfriend at the time when I was.

00:23:20:08 - 00:23:21:05

Isabella

A pre-teen, I.

00:23:21:05 - 00:23:26:18

Isabella

Think I was 13. It was while his parents were out of town. So I went over to his house.

00:23:26:18 - 00:23:27:21

Isabella

And.

00:23:27:23 - 00:23:48:05

Isabella

It was really cute. He was such a little romantic. He like, had me come over and I think he was like already in the shower. And he put like a rose petals, like, had me meet him in the shower and we like, took a shower together. Then we ended up in his bedroom and most of the sex was him trying to fit it inside me.

00:23:48:10 - 00:23:49:15

Isabella

Okay?

00:23:49:17 - 00:24:04:20

Isabella

Cause like, I didn't know. Like, you know, neither of us had the sexual education that we probably needed. So, you know, the fitting it in and foreplay and things like that, we just didn't understand. But it was really cute. I remember that I had to go buy the condom.

00:24:04:22 - 00:24:10:00

Isabella

You did. And there's. So you don't think I will? I don't think there's.

00:24:10:00 - 00:24:13:01

Isabella

Like an age. Is there like an age restriction for condoms?

00:24:13:01 - 00:24:20:12

Luna

I don't know. Now. I definitely have been to pharmacies where they had to unlock them for me, and I don't know if that has to do that's I should know the answer to that question.

00:24:20:14 - 00:24:43:01

Isabella

Yeah, I don't I actually don't know. That's something I'd be curious to know because I remember just like going into like Publix and grabbing a box of condoms and going to check out. I also will say, like, by the time I was 13, I was like, cut boob, like five seven. I'm like five nine now. So I was basically like fully grown by the time I was 13.

00:24:43:01 - 00:24:54:21

Isabella

So a lot of people thought I was much older. So that could also contribute to why they sold me. Gotcha. Condoms, I don't know, but maybe there also isn't an age restriction. Or at the time there wasn't because this was like.

00:24:54:23 - 00:25:00:13

Isabella

15 years ago. Okay. Yeah. So wow. It was.

00:25:00:13 - 00:25:01:06

Isabella

Very sweet.

00:25:01:07 - 00:25:02:07

Isabella

00:25:02:09 - 00:25:05:00

Isabella

And then after that, we were having lots of sex, okay. All the.

00:25:05:00 - 00:25:08:04

Luna

Time. So it went well, like you, you like, you really go.

00:25:08:06 - 00:25:08:16

Isabella

Okay.

00:25:08:18 - 00:25:15:10

Isabella

Yeah, yeah. I think the first time was just really sweet and endearing because I think, like, most of it was just like trying.

00:25:15:10 - 00:25:18:00

Isabella

To get it, get the.

00:25:18:00 - 00:25:19:10

Isabella

Penis to go inside.

00:25:19:12 - 00:25:22:08

Isabella

Yeah, yeah. But it was very cute.

00:25:22:10 - 00:25:28:18

Luna

So on that note of condoms, what are your conversations about health and safety like with partners these days?

00:25:28:19 - 00:25:51:23

Isabella

I mean, I always have those conversations with people. So I'm always kind of just like, you know, like, when were you last tested? And like, you know, condoms always. Unless it's like a long term trusted partner. When I collaborate with people for content, we usually exchange most recent testing info and stuff. I've like collaborated with people and we didn't use like, condoms, but we.

00:25:51:23 - 00:25:53:03

Isabella

Exchanged.

00:25:53:05 - 00:26:12:15

Isabella

All our recent testing info and stuff. So I think it just depends. Yeah, depends on like if it's like for content or personal, but I think it's important to talk about it. I'm very lucky that most of the people I meet, they're very like pro like want to talk about those things before we even, you know, start doing anything.

00:26:12:15 - 00:26:13:12

Isabella

So yeah.

00:26:13:14 - 00:26:14:02

Isabella

Good.

00:26:14:02 - 00:26:22:10

Luna

Good overlaps of people. What else from your formative years are stories that stand out, or things that kind of like shaped your current sexual identity.

00:26:22:12 - 00:26:52:18

Isabella

So when I was in high school, I dated somebody for about two years. And he actually it's so interesting because I didn't have a lot of like I talked about how I had a lot of exposure to all of these sexual things growing up, but I didn't have a lot of exposure to pleasure in the terms of like, a vagina and like how to masturbate or like how to orgasm for, like someone who has a vagina or a vulva or whatever.

00:26:52:19 - 00:27:08:04

Isabella

And so those are things that I never did. I didn't actually have a lot of like self-exploration in that way before being with partners. That actually came later for me. I actually had a lot of sexual partners before.

00:27:08:06 - 00:27:08:21

Isabella

I ever.

00:27:08:21 - 00:27:11:04

Isabella

Had, like a clitoral orgasm.

00:27:11:07 - 00:27:11:19

Isabella

Wow.

00:27:11:20 - 00:27:30:02

Isabella

So I had a boyfriend in high school. I think this was like very early on into our relationship, but he started to do stuff to my clitoris and I was like, whoa, like, because I've never been touched there. And I was like, oh, like, whoa, what are you doing?

00:27:30:04 - 00:27:36:09

Isabella

He's this like. And he was like, it's okay, okay. For me, I like he.

00:27:36:12 - 00:27:40:18

Isabella

Helped me orgasm. And that was the first time that I ever orgasm. Literally.

00:27:40:19 - 00:27:42:04

Isabella

Fuck yeah.

00:27:42:04 - 00:27:46:06

Isabella

Oh, and it was amazing. After that, I was like, we're always doing that more.

00:27:46:12 - 00:27:48:20

Isabella

Okay. I was like, all the time.

00:27:48:20 - 00:28:13:03

Isabella

And then, you know, I was already like very high sex drive in that, just like Skyros rocketed it. I was like, oh, he was also the first person that I was intimate with that started to incorporate like toys and like, he also bought, like, you know, that sex furniture that like, looks like a wedge and then you like, open it up and like, I'm sure you.

00:28:13:03 - 00:28:14:21

Isabella

Yeah, you're like, you're like, let me grab it.

00:28:14:21 - 00:28:17:21

Isabella

I. But he had.

00:28:17:21 - 00:28:21:03

Isabella

One of the he like bought one of those for us. And I'm like we're 16.

00:28:21:05 - 00:28:25:05

Isabella

Oh my gosh it's cute though I love it.

00:28:25:11 - 00:28:28:22

Isabella

Yeah it was really cute. So I think he was like very formative.

00:28:29:03 - 00:28:29:07

Isabella

To.

00:28:29:07 - 00:28:30:07

Luna

Say what a high.

00:28:30:07 - 00:28:31:05

Isabella

Bar.

00:28:31:07 - 00:28:42:11

Isabella

Oh he would like he bought me toys. He bought like furniture for us. He was like very exploratory and like very sexually free and like communicative. And he also would buy me lingerie.

00:28:42:12 - 00:28:45:02

Isabella

What a good boy I which I.

00:28:45:02 - 00:28:46:07

Isabella

Was like, oh.

00:28:46:09 - 00:28:48:02

Isabella

That's something you can do.

00:28:48:02 - 00:28:52:08

Isabella

And then from then on it was like changed how I had relationships with people.

00:28:52:08 - 00:28:56:02

Isabella

So yeah, he was great. You. Yeah.

00:28:56:02 - 00:29:12:16

Isabella

And then I think another very formative moment for me was when I was in college, I had a partner and we were just in the middle of sex, and they just took my foot and they put my toes in their mouth. And I was like, I like this.

00:29:12:18 - 00:29:16:11

Isabella

Better. What are you doing? It was like, oh yeah.

00:29:16:12 - 00:29:24:15

Isabella

So I was like, the first time I have experienced anything with feet. And I was like, do it again. Yeah. And then from there we were doing all the all the foot stuff.

00:29:24:17 - 00:29:29:05

Luna

So your feet aren't ticklish or are they or does it depend.

00:29:29:07 - 00:29:30:05

Isabella

It depends.

00:29:30:07 - 00:29:47:23

Isabella

I would say most of the time they're not very ticklish, but sometimes just I have a few partners that I've been with who they know how to make me ticklish. Okay? Cause otherwise I'm not a very ticklish person. Like you could tickle me or try to tickle me on like my body. And it's like, not really. So it doesn't really work.

00:29:48:02 - 00:29:55:21

Luna

My meticulousness seems to be related to how aroused I am, like where I am in arousal. Do you notice any patterns for yourself?

00:29:55:23 - 00:29:56:17

Isabella

I do.

00:29:56:18 - 00:30:05:09

Isabella

Yeah, because I would say if someone just tries to like come up and tickle me, I'm like, you know, but if we're in the middle of stuff for sure, like my feet are ticklish, okay?

00:30:05:10 - 00:30:15:15

Luna

The more aroused I get, the more hypersensitive I get in all forms. And sometimes if I come really hard, I like, need the lights to go off or I need to cut the music or whatever, and I'll be like, just let me lay or squish me or something.

00:30:15:15 - 00:30:25:12

Isabella

So yes, I've experienced that as well. I actually had that experience yesterday where I like immediately it was like, I'm dead, I can't move. So you're just going to have to.

00:30:25:12 - 00:30:26:13

Isabella

Finish and.

00:30:26:13 - 00:30:27:08

Isabella

I'll just lay here.

00:30:27:14 - 00:30:45:12

Luna

Amazing, I love that. So I do love it when I'm like that much of a motion and with a partner I obviously trust. And they just still keep fucking me to that is so hot for me. Like it's because I also have like some statue stuff or like nullification. Like I'm just like, let me just be here and like receive like, that's really hot.

00:30:45:12 - 00:30:46:02

Luna

Yeah.

00:30:46:04 - 00:30:51:23

Isabella

I like that too. Yeah. That also for me that plays into latex. Like I love like rubber doll stuff okay.

00:30:51:23 - 00:30:53:01

Luna

Oh same or.

00:30:53:02 - 00:31:04:16

Isabella

Same. Oh yeah. Like full body latex. Like hood like full catsuit like everything they I love that and just kind of like being like a little doll. Oh.

00:31:04:18 - 00:31:14:02

Luna

Can you get into your latex by yourself? Let's switch to latex for a second. Details. When did you get into it? What do you have? What do you like? What do you want? How do you clean it?

00:31:14:04 - 00:31:39:03

Isabella

Oh my gosh, the cleaning. Okay, so I have a few pieces. Something that I don't have that I would really like. So I don't actually have like a full body currently I don't have one and I really want one. I want like the full like I found this website, I think it comes from Germany, but they'll do it like specific to your measurements, like full body with like, you know, openings, like zippers for whatever you might need, you know.

00:31:39:05 - 00:32:04:14

Isabella

But right now I have I have a few pieces. I have a like a bodysuit, I have like a bra and a thong. I have a hood with, like, open eyes and open mouths. I have gloves, gloves are fun. Some of my favorite things that I've done with latex were like wearing the hood and wearing gloves and using the gloves to like, pleasure the other person and like giving oral with the hood and like getting all messy, like.

00:32:04:14 - 00:32:09:16

Isabella

Yeah, wow. Yes. But I think I got into latex.

00:32:09:22 - 00:32:11:19

Isabella

Sometime within the last ten years.

00:32:11:19 - 00:32:12:20

Isabella

Okay. It's something that.

00:32:12:20 - 00:32:14:19

Isabella

I don't do very often.

00:32:14:21 - 00:32:21:06

Isabella

Because it takes a lot of time. Well, yeah, I think so. You have to have time.

00:32:21:08 - 00:32:40:11

Luna

Yeah okay. So unfortunately pics and I'm like I want to explore latex. But here's my fantasy. I would like a latex lady in waiting to help me get in and out of it. I already struggle putting on regular clothes like anything with sleeves. Like I almost always dress like this. I'm wearing a sports bra, like I'm wearing, you know, like the less clothes the better for me.

00:32:40:16 - 00:32:57:08

Luna

But I love sensation and constriction and all those feelings, and I have been in the back of it and really liked it. So. But I love the idea of like, you know, ceremonially doing it and engaging with partners who are really deeply going to appreciate it like that to me, makes it feel worth all the effort.

00:32:57:10 - 00:32:58:13

Isabella

That's so I agree.

00:32:58:15 - 00:32:58:23

Isabella

Yeah.

00:32:58:23 - 00:33:17:08

Isabella

I would love to find somebody to like that. Who it's basically in some context is like considered a sub, like somebody who helps dress you in your latex and, and like, shines or latex for you and like, I would love somebody do that and cleans it because I the cleaning process is not my favorite, but it's like cleaning.

00:33:17:08 - 00:33:22:00

Isabella

It's like washing your laundry or anything. It's just it's own little thing. You know?

00:33:22:01 - 00:33:24:10

Luna

What was your first latex piece?

00:33:24:12 - 00:33:26:07

Isabella

I think it was a dress.

00:33:26:07 - 00:33:26:18

Isabella

Okay.

00:33:26:19 - 00:33:33:01

Isabella

So I have this dress that is like a skin colored transparent latex.

00:33:33:03 - 00:33:35:14

Isabella

Yeah. That's right. Oh yes.

00:33:35:16 - 00:33:44:15

Isabella

Oh yeah. So I think that was my first piece, but then I was kind of like I like it, but felt more like for fashion because it's a dress.

00:33:44:15 - 00:33:45:00

Isabella

Okay.

00:33:45:02 - 00:33:52:21

Isabella

And I was like, I want like panties and I want like a bra and I want to start. So that's when I started to buy, like all the other stuff.

00:33:52:23 - 00:33:58:23

Luna

So when did you realize you were pansexual and when did you start to explore sex work?

00:33:59:01 - 00:34:09:05

Isabella

So I think I knew from a very young age that I liked all genders, but I was like, in kindergarten, I had a boyfriend and a girlfriend.

00:34:09:11 - 00:34:13:16

Isabella

Yeah, cute. But you know, you're in kindergarten.

00:34:13:16 - 00:34:14:14

Isabella

But like, yeah.

00:34:14:19 - 00:34:18:11

Luna

Well, in kindergarten, I had three husbands, like three future husbands.

00:34:18:13 - 00:34:44:02

Isabella

Yeah. So it's kind of like. But we, like, all, like, dated and, like, hung out on the playground together, you know, but, like, we would just, like, sit there and, like, hold hands. And that was a stating. It's really cute. You know, I think I always knew I was attracted to women and just anyone in general, because I remember as I was being exposed to all different media and stuff, and I would just like have feelings towards like different characters and movies or TV.

00:34:44:04 - 00:35:06:02

Isabella

Yeah. So I think I always knew and then it wasn't until after high school that I was really introduced to just like different genders outside of cisgender. And that's when I really started to realize, like, oh, like I like everybody, like I'm attracted to all genders and like, I like, you know, if I just think somebody is hot, I think they're hot.

00:35:06:02 - 00:35:12:07

Isabella

You know, it's so funny. Attraction is like, I'll just be attracted to somebody because, like, the way.

00:35:12:11 - 00:35:12:20

Isabella

That.

00:35:12:20 - 00:35:19:01

Isabella

They talk or like their confidence. So it's like so for me it's never been about gender. I don't know, it's just about.

00:35:19:04 - 00:35:20:19

Luna

I get attracted to energies.

00:35:20:21 - 00:35:30:07

Isabella

Yeah. Me too. Yeah. And I've dated almost every gender I know there's too many genders, but I have to choose a lot of genders.

00:35:30:09 - 00:35:33:03

Isabella

A lot of different genders, people with different genders.

00:35:33:05 - 00:35:35:13

Isabella

And then the other question was about, oh, sex, right.

00:35:35:19 - 00:35:36:09

Isabella

Yeah, yeah.

00:35:36:11 - 00:36:01:15

Isabella

I was I think from also same when I was very young, I was exposed to a lot of media where there were sex workers. And I don't think I like you in like my consciousness, but maybe like subconsciously, I was very attracted to that, but I didn't really know what it was. So the first time I ever did sex work was ten years ago, and I was in college, and I needed to pay my rent.

00:36:01:17 - 00:36:03:00

Isabella

And,

00:36:03:02 - 00:36:19:03

Isabella

And I was at the University of Florida, and I was three veterinary. So I was taking very expensive courses and lots of science and lots of lots of studying, and I barely had time to work. So I started calming. So I was on my fur cams.

00:36:19:03 - 00:36:21:18

Isabella

Okay. And,

00:36:21:20 - 00:36:41:04

Isabella

And that was the first time that I ever, you know, because back then it was like they paid you every two weeks. So you get like a payout every two weeks. And I remember at the end of my first two weeks of camming, I was like, oh my God. I was like, that's like for me, like that amount of money is for me.

00:36:41:06 - 00:37:01:23

Isabella

And I was just very excited about it. But back then I did not have the knowledge that I have now, nor the business knowledge or anything like that. So I very quickly fell off and stopped doing it. But then since then I've just been in and out, and it wasn't until I moved to Chicago from Florida that I started to do it full time.

00:37:02:00 - 00:37:03:15

Isabella

So I started.

00:37:03:15 - 00:37:04:20

Isabella

Out in.

00:37:04:20 - 00:37:08:10

Isabella

A strip club. I worked at a Rick's Cabaret.

00:37:08:12 - 00:37:13:11

Isabella

Okay. What was that like? It was interesting. Is it a chain?

00:37:13:13 - 00:37:15:18

Luna

The way you said it? Is it a Rick? It is a chain.

00:37:15:18 - 00:37:18:11

Isabella

Okay, there's several. There's one in New York, I know that.

00:37:18:11 - 00:37:18:19

Isabella

Okay.

00:37:18:23 - 00:37:40:05

Isabella

That was my first experience with, like, in person, like being in person and doing that. It was a lot of work. It was really hard work. It was like 12 hour shifts in, like, eight inch pleaser heels wearing next to nothing and freezing cold clubs, you know? But it was fun. I really loved, like getting up on stage and dancing.

00:37:40:05 - 00:38:03:12

Isabella

Okay. And for me, what made me realize and led me to where I am now is that my strongest asset. When I worked, there was conversation. So a lot of the connections I made and a lot of the success I had was through, like sitting down across from somebody and like having a really good conversation and connecting with them.

00:38:03:14 - 00:38:09:14

Isabella

So I wasn't the best dancer. So I really put all my skill set into my conversation.

00:38:09:16 - 00:38:10:23

Isabella

Yeah.

00:38:11:01 - 00:38:40:02

Isabella

And then at the same time, I was also kind of dabbling into, more like kink fetish stuff. And I tried to get an apprenticeship at a dungeon because I thought maybe that's something I'd want to do. It's not something I have a lot of experience with, and for me, I just don't feel comfortable doing a lot of like, dominant things or anything like that without the professional teaching, because I was just like, I don't want to hurt anybody.

00:38:40:02 - 00:38:50:17

Isabella

Like, you know, you could really hurt someone if you don't know what you're doing. And I wanted to know what I was doing so I would work foot fetish parties. That's how I first started. Yeah.

00:38:50:18 - 00:38:54:05

Isabella

What is that like? Was fun.

00:38:54:05 - 00:39:15:14

Isabella

I liked it, so it would be like a set daytime, whatever you show up. And basically it would kind of just be like, feel like a normal type of gathering ish party. And if somebody decided that they liked you or you talked and they hit it off, or sometimes you won't even talk at all, they'll just approach you and they'll just be like, I'd like to do like a session with you.

00:39:15:16 - 00:39:35:16

Isabella

So you'd go and do like a short session. And everyone had different things that they wanted. So sometimes they would just want to like hold and caress your feet or like suck on your toes or whatever. I would also have some people who were like into trampling. So I would have people who had wanted me to like, trample them with my feet.

00:39:35:16 - 00:39:38:21

Isabella

And I was just like, that was the first time I ever did it. I was like, oh.

00:39:38:21 - 00:39:45:02

Isabella

This is fine. I don't, I don't know, I mean, I've heard you do, but it's it's so cool.

00:39:45:02 - 00:39:46:15

Luna

Shoes offer shoes on.

00:39:46:17 - 00:39:48:03

Isabella

Oh, I actually did both.

00:39:48:04 - 00:39:50:06

Isabella

Both. Okay, fine. Yeah.

00:39:50:08 - 00:40:07:14

Isabella

Yeah. I have some interesting experiences. Like there were a lot of people who really liked hosiery, so I'd always wear, like, you know, talking rings or, you know, tights or whatever, and they'd like that with the fee and they'd, you know, yeah, it was a lot of fun. But I soon realized that doll work wasn't for me. So I stopped doing that.

00:40:07:19 - 00:40:08:16

Isabella

Yeah, yeah, but.

00:40:08:16 - 00:40:11:18

Isabella

The foot fetish parties were really fun.

00:40:11:20 - 00:40:25:18

Luna

I've also learned in the professional world that there are some very shitty submissive clients out there that are really just boundary pushers, so it's like it's a whole it's a whole thing. But just based on my personal research.

00:40:25:19 - 00:40:26:19

Isabella

Yes, I would.

00:40:26:19 - 00:40:43:12

Isabella

Definitely agree with you. Obviously not all of them, but I would definitely agree that there is. I always say this and I will say it loud and proud, but I think that, you know, people who are professional Doms do way more work.

00:40:43:14 - 00:40:46:23

Isabella

But they charge less. Yeah.

00:40:47:00 - 00:40:52:04

Isabella

Than like an independent escort or whatever because of the clientele.

00:40:52:06 - 00:40:57:18

Luna

They're greedy little subs. I'm like, oh, you're not a good enough boy to talk to me like that.

00:40:57:20 - 00:40:58:06

Isabella

Yeah.

00:40:58:06 - 00:41:14:21

Isabella

So when I realized basically that I was like, oh, I don't want to do more work for less money. Like, it can be really draining, like a sub comes to you and, you know, they have like a page long checklist of like everything they want you to do in like a 30 minutes. And I'd be like, I just know what I would charge for that.

00:41:14:21 - 00:41:17:05

Isabella

You would not be able to work.

00:41:17:07 - 00:41:19:07

Isabella

Yeah.

00:41:19:09 - 00:41:53:08

Isabella

So very soon after that, I realized that independent companionship existed and I was like, oh, I can do that. That sounds really fun. But I didn't know anybody who was doing it. So I basically had to learn everything on my own. And kind of just like watch people via the internet. Kind of just like Twitter was a great resource because I would like find other campaigns on Twitter who were very established, had like a strong following.

00:41:53:10 - 00:42:11:18

Isabella

And, you know, I look at their websites and I kind of read about their experiences, like whatever they shared on the internet. I'd read about. And so that kind of helps me, really. And then I finally started to, like, reach out to people in the industry to like, meet them and like, befriend them and not too far into becoming a companion.

00:42:11:18 - 00:42:12:21

Isabella

The pandemic happened.

00:42:13:02 - 00:42:13:20

Luna

Oh, shit.

00:42:13:22 - 00:42:21:01

Isabella

So I think, yeah. Oh yeah. So I started companionship in October of 2019.

00:42:21:07 - 00:42:22:14

Isabella

Okay, so.

00:42:22:15 - 00:42:27:08

Isabella

March 2020 was when the pandemic hit. So what, less than six months?

00:42:27:08 - 00:42:27:21

Isabella

Yeah.

00:42:27:23 - 00:42:54:13

Isabella

So I was kind of pushed but that I honestly like you know, for me that worked because I was kind of like pushed into a space where I could like reflect and be like, oh, like, what type of clientele am I attracting currently and what kind of clientele do I want to attract? Like, does it align? I realized it didn't align, so I basically did like a full rebrand.

00:42:54:15 - 00:42:58:23

Isabella

And in December of 2020, I debuted as Isabella.

00:42:59:01 - 00:43:00:17

Isabella

Amazing. Yeah.

00:43:00:17 - 00:43:04:06

Isabella

So it'll be three years that I've been Isabella. Yeah.

00:43:04:12 - 00:43:07:05

Isabella

Oh, I love that. Wow.

00:43:07:06 - 00:43:08:22

Isabella

She grows every day.

00:43:09:00 - 00:43:11:03

Isabella

Oh, yay for cuticle.

00:43:11:03 - 00:43:19:02

Luna

Literally. Isabella. So I want to ask you this before I get into more details. Do you identify as an exhibitionist? Because we have camming. We have.

00:43:19:02 - 00:43:20:04

Isabella

Stripping.

00:43:20:06 - 00:43:25:01

Luna

We're going to get into some OnlyFans stuff maybe, but like, do you feel a thrill from exhibitionism?

00:43:25:03 - 00:43:27:13

Isabella

I do, yeah, I like it a lot. It feels.

00:43:27:13 - 00:43:30:21

Isabella

Empowering. It also feels validating.

00:43:30:23 - 00:43:31:17

Isabella

00:43:31:19 - 00:43:49:08

Isabella

Because it feels like people are seeing me and you know it's cool because I love playing with perception. So like they're seeing me but like what are they see. And like what am I showing them. And I think that is what excites me about exhibitionism is that it's a performance.

00:43:49:10 - 00:43:52:23

Luna

So you're conscious of what your crafting for people.

00:43:53:01 - 00:43:54:12

Isabella

Yeah. It's fun.

00:43:54:14 - 00:44:06:06

Isabella

That's all. That's very fun. That's the best part of it is like, it feels like this, like little playground where I can, like, perform. I don't know, I grew up as a theater kid, so I think that's where it comes from.

00:44:06:08 - 00:44:25:17

Luna

Totally. For me personally. Earlier at the beginning of our interview, when you said the ability to be silly, to have fun, that play, that element of play like we put on a play when we're fucking or doing kinky stuff, we are playing together with our play partner. I think that that is. Yeah. So like for me that's the funnest thing.

00:44:25:17 - 00:44:41:19

Luna

I'm talking to my mom today on the phone and I was like, I think I just like playful people in all contexts. Like, that's how I want to. That's my love. Language is play, not just quality time. It's like I want to spend the quality time playing whatever that looks like. I'm doing a photoshoot or fucking someone, or playing game or whatever.

00:44:41:21 - 00:45:01:12

Isabella

Or just being really silly and like, dancing down the street. Yeah, it's just fun. Yeah. When you can just like, tap into that, like there's like a shamelessness to it, right? Like you can be totally comfortable. All the walls can come down and you can just, I don't know, explore. That's it's fun.

00:45:01:14 - 00:45:04:01

Luna

Do people know in your life that you're a sex worker?

00:45:04:05 - 00:45:20:12

Isabella

I'm very open about it. Everyone that I'm friends with in my life, they're either also sex workers or they know what I do and are totally accepting of it. My mother knows it's been two years since I told her. Well, rather, she made me tell.

00:45:20:12 - 00:45:23:06

Luna

Her, well, really? Can you share that story?

00:45:23:06 - 00:45:26:01

Isabella

It's like comfy. Yes. Yeah, I share it with you.

00:45:26:01 - 00:45:30:04

Isabella

So almost two years ago. So Thanksgiving, two years ago.

00:45:30:06 - 00:45:30:23

Isabella

She came up.

00:45:30:23 - 00:46:00:17

Isabella

For a full week and stayed with me. And prior to the trip, I had already planned to tell her I was like, this is it. This is what I'm going to tell her. But we have a whole week together and it's also a holiday. So my plan was I was going to wait to the end of the trip because I was like, well, you know, if it goes wrong, at least, you know, the next day, the next morning or whatever it is she's leaving and she'll be out of my hair, you know, in case it goes bad.

00:46:00:19 - 00:46:14:09

Isabella

But literally she got in. I picked her up from the airport. She came over to my house and, like, sat down on the couch and I sat down with her and she just, like, immediately it was like, so what do you like actually doing?

00:46:14:11 - 00:46:26:18

Isabella

Like what? Yeah. And I was like, oh. I was like, oh, okay, I guess you are my mother.

00:46:26:20 - 00:46:27:20

Isabella

She's like, daughter.

00:46:27:20 - 00:46:29:19

Luna