212 | Beginner’s Guide to Play Parties: Billy Procida on Woo
- Luna Robbie
- May 12, 2023
- 40 min read
Host of the Manwhore podcast.
🔗 BILLY LINKS | manwhorepod.com / @thebillyprocida / @billyisprocida / OF
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Luna
Our guest today. You should already know if you are a long time listener. He is a comedian, a slut. My very first sex podcaster friend, and the person who pointed out to me that I was already a sex worker. Welcome, Billy Procida.
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Billy
I'm sorry, I did what? Now.
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Luna
I don't know if you remember this. This is a big part of my formative experience. One of the last times we talked, I think it was when I was on your show, you were like, Will you sell nudes on OnlyFans? And I was like, yeah. And you were like, doesn't that count as sex work? And I was like, I saw it.
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Luna
And you were like, are you making money off of it and turning people on? And I was like, oh, good point. But up until that point, I had sort of just conceived of it as like, I'm just being naked. So it was in that conversation that I was like, oh, well, then why am I not doing more?
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Billy
Yeah. You know, if you're getting paid for sexual services, there are some who would say that technically makes you a sex worker. I guess that makes us sex. I don't know, it's not really part of my identity, but, like, if it's if I. If that helped you that experience and like, marzo, like, keep going with it.
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Luna
Well so here's what it did for me. It just sort of pinged me into a long exploration of like, what does count as sex work? And that's what we're still kind of here to talk about today. So how about for people who don't know, you tell us a little bit about your work, what it looks like right now.
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Luna
How are you making the world a sexier, more loving place? Is it your full time job, like, give us a bit of a story?
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Billy
I mean, I don't know if I'm making the world a better place or anything, but I do talk about my dick for a living. I don't know if that helps, but it's probably somewhere, you know, it depends on your tastes and preferences. Yeah, like someone thinks my dick is sexy. That's great. Big fan of that. But, yeah.
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Billy
So I, I, actually next month will be nine years of me hosting the Man Horror podcast, a series of sex positive conversations. Y has been a guest, back in the day, quite a few years back. Yeah. You know, I do that. I've also been a, standup comedian for a long time. I have now been also writing lately.
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Billy
I've been doing some freelance writing for mashable.com. I've done some articles about, you know, sex parties and, OnlyFans and stuff like that. I just finished the editing process on how to throw a gangbang, so you can probably expect to see that somewhere on Mashable by the time this is out. Yeah. And oh yeah, and I haven't only fans if you really want to like, see my dick or like, watch me put stuff in my body or you want like a fake boyfriend to sext for an evening, I am there and you can compensate me for such services.
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Luna
I love that, and I would say all of those things, especially teaching people how to feel, getting things. It's definitely making the world a sexier, more loving place. Like it's got to be that hot as fuck.
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Billy
Yeah, I do consultations for fantasy fulfillment. If you and your husband or someone need to, like, figure out how to throw, one can hire me. We'll talk on the phone for a while. I'll coach you through it.
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Luna
That is what we do. Great. Okay, so when you're out in the world, when you're meeting people and or people from your sphere, like, do you ever get weird reactions when people learn about what you do or is it pretty like, oh yeah, everyone has an OnlyFans now. Like, do you have any fun stories about how people respond when you're like, here's what I do.
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Billy
Well, it depends on what the sensibilities are, right? I mean, this goes with anything. If you feel weird about sex, well, when sex comes up in a conversation, you're going to feel weird, right? If sex is nonchalant and totally normal and whatever to you, then there's a better chance you're going to shrug your shoulders and be like, oh, cool, that's that's great.
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Billy
I'm an accountant, right? Because it just depends on what your personal attitudes are toward sex. You know, the only fans is interesting because it's kind of like there are a lot of people, even the people who think OnlyFans is evil, right? Or bad, or they think like, women shouldn't be on OnlyFans or any of that, you know, they'll say, only fans like you slut, how dare you?
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Billy
But if I told them I do OnlyFans to go, hey, if you can get someone to pay for that, good for you. You know, there's a little bit of a hint of like, if you're a dumpy looking dude and you can get paid for nudes like, God bless you. Yeah. No.
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Luna
Wow. Okay. Do you think your don't be looking.
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Billy
You haven't seen me dress on my day to day. I like, dress in a dumpy fashion.
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Luna
Okay, okay.
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Billy
Like I'm a very big jeans and t shirt guy. It depends on if I happen to own a jeans that fit my butt properly. I think that the term is whether or not I look dumpy that day. Okay.
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Luna
So you also said you don't necessarily identify with the word sex worker, but like how do you describe yourself to a new person when you meet them? Like, are you like, I do this and this and this, or do you like tease it out like a little delicious drops of discovery?
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Billy
Depends on the setting, but usually someone says, what do you do for a living? I say, I talk about my dick, and then depending on the reaction, like I can give them more information. No more information, really. Whatever is going to be funniest or helpful in a moment. That's usually what drives most of my decisions. Is am I going to get somebody to laugh or am I going to help somebody?
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Billy
Those are really my two driving factors.
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Luna
I love that. Okay, so that gives us a good framework for your origin story for everything that you do. So you want to make people laugh. You want to make it funny. How did that evolve into this whole like sexy ability life that you lead? What's your profession origin story.
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Billy
So like I've been doing standup since 2000, the end of 2008, my sophomore year of college, and then in 2014, I launched the podcast Talking to My Exes about why we didn't work out. And I started doing that every week, and that just the show found some fans and it evolved, and I kept doing it. And so I started to branch out and started to invite on sex educators and porn stars, queer performers, dating experts, feminist authors.
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Billy
And then I started expand even more now I'm at the place where I don't even want experts anymore. I'm like, it's been almost 500 episodes. We've probably covered it.
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Luna
Yeah.
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Billy
Now I just want experiences. I want stories like, I I'd rather have on, like a polyamorous athlete or like a kinky rapper than, you know, the next instructional sex book.
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Luna
Totally, totally. So it sounds like sex was kind of always baked in or like when you were starting out standup way back in the day. Like, did you include themes of sex, or was that only once man got started?
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Billy
Have you ever seen a man do standup like it's it's I have to bit is about jerking off, right? I thought that was the stereotype. Oh. Yeah. You know, I talk about sex, I talk about dating, I talk to, you know, I talk about my life. And I just have always had, like, a sexually adventurous lifestyle. So I've just always had interesting things to talk about in regards to sex on stage.
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Billy
My barrier sometimes would be, I think going to a gangbang is super normal, and the joke is about something that happened at the gangbang. It's not the gangbang itself, but a lot of people, they hear gangbang, they think I'm kidding. I'm like, oh no, no, that's real. But that's not the funny part. And they're just hung up on like gang bangs exist, right?
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Billy
Right. I also don't remember what we talked about the last time I was on on your show, but, you know. Yeah, I've, I've had a nice slutty existence.
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Luna
We'll say we did not talk about gang bangs enough. I would love to get into those specifics. But before we do, I want to know, is there at this point in your slutty career, a slutty thing that you hope to achieve for work through work in your work that you have not yet gotten to?
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Billy
You know, something I'm planning right now is a special episode I want to plan. So episode 180 is called the Oral Sex Auditions. And it was, I had a friend who was very sexually frustrated about men who didn't eat pussy or the like, bragged about it. And then didn't do it a lot. Or they said they were really good and they were terrible.
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Billy
So I said, let's hold auditions. She's like, Billy, could you, like, referred me to a friend? I'd be like, I mean, I could find five strangers to lick your box and see if any of them are good at it. And we did that as a podcast episode. So I had five dudes show up at their appointment times for their auditions.
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Billy
We did like a pre-game interview right then. I would send them in there 12 minutes to make a first impression of my friend using tongues and fingers. Only penis stays in the pants. Okay, can't even take their dicks out right? And then I'd come, you know, open the door, be like, all right, get on back in here. And they'd be like, hey, Roxanne, that's your twat.
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Billy
And then I got to take him back. And then we would do, like, a post-game interview and he'd be like, sweaty, like LeBron at the end of the third quarter. And then. Then he'd leave and and she would come out and she'd go on the mic and tell us, like, how it really went. And we did that for like all five guys for like, find her a match.
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Billy
So now I want to do the reverse of that. In a way. I want to find five women to like, take turns laying down and letting me go down on them. And then I would have a friend of mine be like a guest host. She'll do the pre-game, post-game interviews, and then basically we're going to find out, is this man her podcast guy a fraud or is he actually good at eating pussy?
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Billy
I don't know the answer. Honestly, I think it would be funniest if I'm bad.
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Luna
Well, I don't know if it's a good bad, but I fucking love that idea because, like, I think it'll be really interesting to have the contrast.
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Billy
I mean, I think it's I think it's funny. It's like from an entertainment perspective, like, you know, because then it's just I've got people like shitting on my sexual abilities and I'll put myself in that position for comedy, or I impress some people, and now I have like some new sex partners.
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Luna
Oh, yeah. And or it's a chance to open up communication and show people examples of how to, like, ask for what you actually want. That's hard. Fuck yeah, I love that.
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Billy
I'm still trying to pick which which friend to have guest host. I won't know what they say on mic about me until like I am editing, right? So like, I'm just I have to like, trust someone to be that guest host because I, you know, a week or two later, I might finally sit down to like go and edit and I'll be like, wait, excuse you.
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Billy
What now? I'm sorry. Wait, you faked it? I my world is rocked or something like that, I don't know. Wow. You're really a lot of really nice compliments. I don't know, that's one I really want to do. I also want to do this fun one where, I mean, I would really love to interview an entire orgy. Yes. Like, as they orgy.
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Billy
Like, I want to go around with a mic, probably like porn stars shooting an orgy scene, but like, I want to go around and interview you while you're engaged in activity. Love it. I think that'd be fun.
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Luna
I mean, it would be distracting, but I totally have those same fantasies.
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Billy
Right? It's supposed to be distracting because, like, that's. And that's where we get conflicting comedy from. It's like you're distracted because, like, you know, someone is fucking you in the ass. But like, I'm asking you like, what moments in your life led you to this moment.
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Luna
That kind of interview? Okay. Not that like, what does it feel like right now? Describe it. Okay. You're, like going back. That's hilarious. Those are great. Hashtag career goals. Would you tell us a little bit just switching gears slightly, like as you look back over all of like you've had so many experiences with so many professionals and so many just people in general and grown so much.
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Luna
In your own personal life, what have you noticed? What have you learned about the social and cultural norms that has either, like surprised you that you were like, yep, nope. That's the world. Like, what do you notice about people and sex?
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Billy
Again, it depends on the population within which we're taught. Because if I'm talking to people who are also in a sex positive, informed lifestyle, it's a lot different. But with like your mainstream everyday person, I'm always so shocked, like how much people will try to say what they want by saying other things instead of saying what they want or won't say what they don't want.
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Billy
For all sorts of weird reasons that at the end of the day, leaves them without what they want or like in pain. And like I, you know, I've been with people who I've had someone be like, oh, you've actually been hurting me during sex, but they won't say anything during the sex and be like, oh, no. And then and they'll be like, well, can you please tell me in the moment?
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Billy
And they say, oh, well, I don't want to. I'm like, then I don't know if I can have sex with you because, like, I don't want to be having sex with someone. I might be hurting and I won't know until like afterwards. That's not fun for me.
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Luna
No wonder you have no idea if you're good at going down on people.
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Billy
I mean, I have a pretty I have a pretty decent idea, but if I'm wrong, it would be hilarious. That's that's my idea. Either the whole episode will be me bragging, or it will be, a stunning revelation of humility.
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Luna
What if it's just a deep dive like exploration on how, like, different pussies react differently to your touch and tongue? Because that's like, you know, that's that's so cool. You're going to five completely different people and you're doing well, I don't know. Do you do the same moves vagina of vagina or do it like on a pussy?
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Luna
Do get inspired by the lips. Like or do you have like the same things like how does it work for you?
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Billy
This really looks like a sucking type of like, yeah, no, I don't know. I think it depends on what I'm in front of and it depends on like what I know about this person, what sort of nonverbal reactions I'm getting, involuntary physical reactions. I get things like the type of breathing they do. They do get that low like muscle spasm in their hamstring when it's like really good and they want to hide it, but they can't.
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Billy
There's a lot of factors, but I just go with it. I don't know if that episode would be like a technique based thing. It would just simply be like it would rely on the strength of my guest co-host. I don't know how much I would talk during this episode.
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Luna
Yeah, well, your mouth is going to be busy. Okay, so back to what you've noticed. Social norms wise, it sounds like you've noticed that there are some people in the normie world, shall we say, that maybe aren't as communicative as one might hope for a transcendent sexual experience. But what about in the land of sex positivity, like in these places, you know, you're hanging out at Hacienda, you're doing naked stand up.
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Luna
Like you must be meeting some cool people.
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Billy
Yeah, yeah. You know, you know, well, here, instead of maybe, like, a broad general thing, I'll just give you, like, a pet peeve of mine I find in the space, like if you're at a sex party, you keep your vanilla conversation to, like, another space. Go outside. If there's a backyard, that's where you should talk about how difficult it was to pick your kids up from Hebrew school.
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Billy
I don't need to hear about that. All right? I'm trying to get head right now. I have literally been in like a little five, some puddle of people trying to start the orgy up and ten feet away, we can hear this woman telling this little group about, like, how a brother just got out of rehab and he's been having a tough time, and I'm like, go upstairs.
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Billy
Yeah, not the place. This is an orgy. Or at least it's trying to be.
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Luna
Yeah, right. Like who's in charge of the rules of those orgies? Because I went to the sex parties I've been to. There has not been like a person in charge. Okay? You're not going to talk about stupid shit. You are going to talk about this important stuff. Like, do they set up frames really clearly, or am I just very picky?
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Billy
I think it just depends on the party you go to. I did write a piece for Mashable a couple months ago called like a Beginner's Guide to Sex Parties. You can go to Mashable, find that and in there I do talk about it depends on the party you're going to, whether it's a small soiree among friends in someone's living room or hotel room, fits like a club environment.
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Billy
If it's, more of a like, community play space like Hacienda tends to be the place I go to. So the party I go to, if you're new to the party, it's the first time you have to go to this pre-party consent speech workshop thing. Sometimes people have been there already. Go. Because like, they're bringing a date, right?
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Billy
And it's their first time. But everybody has to have sat through this. And what's great is you are watching everyone else also watch this thing. So, you know, everyone's on the same page because you all just watched each other hear the same words, and they do a pretty good job being detailed so they go through it. This is also a big party 150, 200 people.
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Billy
So you have to have like some rules laid out when they're going through, like, you know, the space and where you can do what and where and consent. It's actually been interesting to watch the speech evolve over the years, because I've been going this party for like eight years. So I've just watched this speech evolve, and they've actually really tried their best to address that gray area stuff or stuff that like, neurodivergent people just might not understand things that people we might call creepy who might just, like, not understand social dynamics or, maybe people whose empathy brains are not turned on to think about how others are perceiving their behavior, stuff like that.
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Billy
So, for example, like last year, they finally started saying, addressing the like conversation that happens in the basement because the basement is like the main play area. It's a big basement. But gosh, sometimes you would just hear somebody talk about really unsexy, like, work stuff. There's like talking about work and it's like, cool. But like, you could go upstairs, you can go to backyard, you can go to, like, this area, like all that belongs anywhere else but this basement.
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Billy
Because, like, you're killing the vibe with whatever you're discussing, right? And it was cool. I was like, oh, thank you so much. It's a pet peeve of mine. Or like another one would be, watching voyeurism. Well, it's not that you can't watch. It's how you watch. It's how you approach it. Right? So they've been addressing the idea of, like, they've been getting more explicit about how normally they would say, if you want to watch people like up close ass, but now they're starting to address, like leering in a way that's more specific.
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Billy
So it's like if you don't have permission to watch some, some people please try to watch from like across the room or like more than ten feet away. I think we want people to just get certain stuff, but like, look, I've been socially awkward my entire life. Does that mean I'm on the spectrum or I just miss that day at school where, like, they explained how the social rules work?
00:17:22:12 - 00:17:45:00
Billy
I don't know. The point is, I have probably been creepy or untoward or impolite at times. When I just did not know what the rules were for these interactions. So first it's just like, yes, you can watch, but just don't be creepy, okay? That helps. Maybe a few people, but there's a lot of people that does it, okay, but I don't know how to not be this word that is subjective.
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Billy
Yeah. So then they start being like, don't watch right up close to somebody staring at them. If you haven't like, hey, oh, you guys are like really hot. Do you mind if I watch. Oh okay. But now we've talked about up close what is up close okay. So now they've even started. So now they're at the point where they're saying stuff like, you know, if you haven't cleared with the people that you're going to be staring at because you think they're really hot, which is okay, try to be more than ten feet away now we have some like measurable guidance that it's not about setting up rules as much as like some people need help
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Billy
on. Well, what is that subjective word you're using when you say don't be creepy, that doesn't help anybody. What are you talking about? Use more words. Some people may hear that and think like, you should just get it, or you're probably creepy if you don't know how to not be creepy. And I'll say, I don't know. Are you ever hang out with people who are like, super on the spectrum?
00:18:41:14 - 00:19:02:10
Billy
Yeah, like just hold some space so that people don't know what the fuck's going on. Totally. A little easier to know what you mean. So at this pre workshop they lay out a lot of stuff like that. And so they're covering consent. They're covering sexual health the covering the space they're covering. You know if you're a squirter put a wee wee pad down.
00:19:02:10 - 00:19:06:11
Billy
We have them available here. Here it here. Yeah. All that type of stuff.
00:19:06:16 - 00:19:19:07
Luna
Love that. Yeah I also have just noticed that like, people on the spectrum tend to be like hyper specific with language and are very kinky, like in the kinky world. The more that I get into kink, the more I'm like you and you. And to all who are so many of us.
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Billy
I think the spectrum folks love things like polyamory and cake, because there's so many rules in poly and kink, right?
00:19:25:04 - 00:19:29:10
Luna
And it's normal to check in about what the rule is and make a new rule for each person.
00:19:29:12 - 00:19:39:13
Billy
Absolutely. I think there's a there's a reason a lot of that there's a lot of attraction to these lifestyles because of all these rules and the propensity for board games, you know.
00:19:39:15 - 00:19:59:11
Luna
Yeah. Depending on which circle you're running. Totally. Okay. On the note of cultural norms and things, what else would you like to shift? It sounds like Haskell is doing a great job of like, you know, creating these clear frameworks. What else in your work as a sexual being out in the world, whether it's like naked comedy, whatever. Like if Billy had a magic wand, what would we be shifting about?
00:19:59:11 - 00:20:02:14
Luna
Sex? Broadly speaking, right now in our culture.
00:20:02:16 - 00:20:17:22
Billy
I don't know if I want to shift anything. I don't think I want that to be my job. I just want people to laugh. You know? It's like like, I think I'm done trying to, like, make a big point. I think I got to start. I want to start being more funny than right. So, you know, if you're like, well, what would you shift if you had a magic wand?
00:20:17:22 - 00:20:32:22
Billy
I'd be like more people being interested in me as maybe that as that. That's great. Like, I, I would love for like everyone to want to lick my ass. That's probably a shift. But like on their own. But like enthusiastically, everyone just now really wants to do that. That sounds great.
00:20:33:00 - 00:20:47:08
Luna
Say that you, like, rubbed a lamp and a genie came out and that was your wish. And like, now you're in a world where, like, several times a day, someone's going to come up to you, like with a dental dam or a laurel tip. Excuse me, Billy, can I lick your ass? How many times a day do you think you would like?
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Luna
Enjoy it. Just on average.
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Billy
I think it's going to depend on what my diet was. The preceding 6 to 18 hours. My entire comfort level with both stuff depends on like. Well, does it feel like there's a lot of poo in my butt right now that completely determines it?
00:21:03:18 - 00:21:11:20
Luna
Okay, okay, on the low end, zero on the high end. Say it's a great but day 50 like 30. What do you think?
00:21:11:21 - 00:21:14:18
Billy
No, that's that gets in the way of a day. Can't get anything done. True.
00:21:14:18 - 00:21:15:07
Luna
Good point. Okay.
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Billy
So like unless I'm going to have one of those, like really cool seats. Like one of those like office chairs with like, like a space in the middle. And someone could just like, look, if you just want to, like, cycle through underneath the chair, while I work, you want to lick. We could probably make that work. I've edited podcast episodes while getting blowjobs, so I feel like like rim rimjob.
00:21:35:04 - 00:21:36:05
Billy
We can swap that out.
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Luna
Okay, I haven't done that yet.
00:21:38:03 - 00:21:39:07
Billy
Head is a lot easier.
00:21:39:10 - 00:21:41:07
Luna
Maybe you just need a special throne.
00:21:41:09 - 00:21:47:11
Billy
You do need a special throne. That's why I'm saying that. Like I don't need a special throne to get a BJ while I edit the podcast, you know what I mean?
00:21:47:13 - 00:21:53:07
Luna
Fair point. All right, well, maybe that'll come true. Will build Belia, but licking throne and see what happens.
00:21:53:09 - 00:22:06:05
Billy
Yeah, but with my luck, it's going to be like some guy in Idaho who's really good with, like, you know, carpentry. And I'll be like, man, I appreciate the enthusiasm and the craftsmanship, but, like, you're not for me, so I'm sorry to disappoint.
00:22:06:07 - 00:22:13:04
Luna
Well, maybe not for you in a whole general life way, but last time I checked, you weren't monogamous, right? You could just, like, love him.
00:22:13:04 - 00:22:17:03
Billy
No, I'm not monogamous. I'm just not into men, let alone men from Idaho into carpentry.
00:22:17:06 - 00:22:24:23
Luna
Wait, so does that mean that you have not received ass licking from a dude? Like, are you so straight that you don't? For some reason, I thought you're more exploratory. I don't know.
00:22:24:23 - 00:22:40:00
Billy
I'm not into men there. I can't seem to get into it that when I look at you and I go like, there's reasons why, like, sometimes the reasons I'm worried a chick not into me or isn't into something, it's because, like, well, I wouldn't be into it.
00:22:40:06 - 00:22:41:00
Luna
Got it.
00:22:41:01 - 00:22:51:23
Billy
So yeah, I'm not I'm not incredibly exploratory with the dude folk in the circles in which I run. Being a straight man is a detriment to my prospects.
00:22:52:01 - 00:22:54:10
Luna
Got it. You don't get invited everywhere in.
00:22:54:10 - 00:23:16:14
Billy
The regular general world. I'm still holding like the straight flush of privilege cards. Sure, sure, sure. But like in my space, in the sex world, being this is not as attractive as if, like, if I want to fuck your boyfriend in the ass like that makes me more attractive. In the small circles we run it, I guess.
00:23:16:17 - 00:23:50:19
Luna
Okay, well, also, you're running in a lot of, like, queer. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. This, I think, segues perfectly into your gangbang experience. And my next question about, like, you know, how your experience with all of your sexy work has influenced your personal life. Like in a gangbang, you're around a lot of other cocks, I would imagine. Right? And I know you're not fucking those people, but like, that is something that I have met a lot of guys that are not up for and it's, you know, so that's like another kind of like tier where it's like if a straight dude can be around other cocks, that's pretty fucking cool.
00:23:50:19 - 00:23:52:18
Luna
Was that an evolution for you?
00:23:52:19 - 00:24:09:18
Billy
No. I did that math in college because I went to I went to college at NYU. I was I lived in New York City in my college years. I mean, my whole don't life. But, you know, we had a very active Craigslist scene. Yeah. And starting sophomore year, when I got out of my freshman year relationship, I started being around Craigslist more.
00:24:09:23 - 00:24:34:13
Billy
And there were a lot of posts that were like, me for em or for em for em, and I really. And a lot of the W for em ads are actually just sex workers or scam bots. It's not a complaint. That's just a reality. That's a very real just description of the landscape. There were not a lot of like actual single women on Craigslist looking to X, Y, or Z.
00:24:34:15 - 00:24:52:12
Billy
So I did the math. I was like, oh, if I'm comfortable, it's like another dick in my proximity. I can increase the number of posts that I can respond to and therefore increase the likelihood I can get my dick sucked. So, you know, part of me was like, okay, Billy, there will be other dicks at this event. Grow up.
00:24:52:14 - 00:25:09:12
Billy
It's fine because, so when guys go like, oh man, is that isn't not all queer, that there's a, there's dicks near your dick. And I'll be like, I don't know, I'm a little distracted by the chicks blowing me to really care about the dicks in my proximity. You know, you don't have to be comfortable with that, dude.
00:25:09:12 - 00:25:32:10
Billy
But I will laugh at the guys who are obsessed with, like, the potential gayness of that experience. Yeah. So it's just like, I don't know if it makes me, like, a little more gay that, like, my dick has been in a mouse with two other dicks, then fine. I guess I'm a little more gayer than you, Brad, but like, I am really into this woman in front of me, so whatever.
00:25:32:12 - 00:25:33:07
Luna
Amazing.
00:25:33:09 - 00:25:51:01
Billy
I'm not one of these, like, super straight guys on TikTok. I hear that's if you heard about this. There's like a hashtag, like super straight and they're like, super straight. Like they're so straight. They're not attracted to trans women, and they're not going to have group sex, which is another dude around. And I'm just like, okay, man, that just sounds really un fuckable to me.
00:25:51:01 - 00:25:57:21
Billy
But like, go with God. Best of luck. Sure my ways, but working pretty well for the last 15 years.
00:25:58:01 - 00:26:00:00
Luna
Yeah. Fuck yeah.
00:26:00:02 - 00:26:06:02
Billy
I also wonder how many of your listeners have turned off because they were like, I was kind of on board until this whole, like, he's straight thing.
00:26:06:05 - 00:26:17:13
Luna
I don't know, I think I have a lot of, well, I don't know, listeners, who the fuck are you telling me? I think I have a lot of queer people, a lot of straight people. I have a lot of dude listeners, too. I also, I feel like I speak to.
00:26:17:13 - 00:26:27:23
Billy
About a lot of your do listeners also are like partially here because they they are very turned on hearing wonderful, beautiful person like yourself talking about sex.
00:26:28:01 - 00:26:42:06
Luna
I don't know, I well, here's what I hear a lot of, yeah, I'm straight. But like, I would definitely let another man blow me or like I would definitely fuck another man or. But I'm definitely, you know, I, I feel like I have a lot of open minded, hetero flexible listeners.
00:26:42:07 - 00:26:43:22
Billy
Okay. That I don't understand.
00:26:44:03 - 00:27:05:05
Luna
No. It's called it's just hetero flexibility. And I don't want people. Billy. I think I associate you with stranger sex and glory holes also, like those are the things that stuck in my mind from our early conversations. And so I'm like, well, if it was like real stranger sex and he were blindfolded, would he even know if, especially if it was on the other side of a glory hole, if there was no beard, if it was a soft fit?
00:27:05:05 - 00:27:06:13
Luna
I don't know. You know.
00:27:06:15 - 00:27:32:16
Billy
To me, sexual orientation has to do with attraction, right? And I'm not an expert. I am just a dumb comedian with a fuck show. Whatever the academics and like experts figure out. Thank you. I like being dumb. It's. Yeah, I just want to be a dumb good boy. Whatever the experts figure out at the end of all this, like debating about these, like, terms and labels and what I will ascribe to whatever it is, I'm not attached to my label as much as I think the jury is out.
00:27:32:16 - 00:27:50:13
Billy
I think a lot stuff is being redefined. However, my understanding of the sexual orientation has a large part to do with your attraction. Whether it's attraction to gently you're attracted to a gender or gender presentation. Maybe that's all up for debate, but it's about attraction. You put your dick in a glory hole. I don't think that changes in attraction.
00:27:50:18 - 00:28:20:18
Billy
That is like a most base level of insert to come. However, the glory holes I have participated in have been with women. I think 1 or 2 trans women. Yeah, it's like because either like I've met them or I arrange them, it's just all been in that way. But I'm, I'm always open to the reality beforehand that like, maybe a dude is like quote unquote tricking me and showing up, and I have to accept that if I'm going to hang a curtain in my apartment during Covid.
00:28:20:23 - 00:28:35:05
Billy
Yeah, yeah. But I also have gotten various comfort options during or after to know that who I invited over is who I invited over, even though I don't necessarily know what they look like beforehand. So I had a glory hole during Covid. We talked about this last year.
00:28:35:05 - 00:28:36:04
Luna
Yes, I remember this.
00:28:36:05 - 00:28:53:13
Billy
I won't do the full rehash, but if you haven't heard my old episode of Sex Stories, I had a glory hole during Covid because government told me to do it and I'm a bootlicker. So I hung ago. I put up a post, so like the second person who came over, she like is on her knees. But she asked like, can we kiss?
00:28:53:13 - 00:29:02:13
Billy
And I that's not what I wanted to do. But whatever she like put her tit up to the hole and she want me like, suck on her tits. Yeah, nice big titties. And so she like, why me? Suck on her tits. So I did that a bit.
00:29:02:18 - 00:29:05:12
Luna
You did not tell us about the titty glory hole? That's hot.
00:29:05:13 - 00:29:11:08
Billy
I was a little annoyed by her a little bit, but it is fine. She started because she was trying to change the scripture in the moment.
00:29:11:09 - 00:29:13:03
Luna
That's like negotiating up.
00:29:13:06 - 00:29:28:18
Billy
Yeah, it's like, tell me before, like, hey, do you think, like maybe like you would reach under and like, stroke my pussy a little bit? I could say yes. That. But like, I don't want to be sprung with it, especially during the high stress times Covid was or like another time I had a lesbian who showed up, she said.
00:29:28:20 - 00:29:50:13
Billy
When we were chatting, she's like, I'm a lesbian. I've never to. I'm a gold star, but I. I figure I should try sucking a dick just to make sure. But I want to remove the man element. Is that okay? I said sure, and like, yeah, I know it was a lesbian because let me tell you, I've never heard someone spit harder and louder after getting ComEd in the mouth than this woman.
00:29:50:14 - 00:29:56:05
Billy
Like I really confirmed for her, not for me, you know? Okay. And I'm glad I could help out with that.
00:29:56:07 - 00:29:57:04
Luna
That's very nice of you.
00:29:57:10 - 00:30:15:05
Billy
Yeah. You know, I'm very benevolent. Boner over here. Okay, so. So sometimes people would, like, roll their eyes back to their probably all men. I'm like, whatever you want to believe, dude. I think until you know, there's a guy on the other side, and then you were attracted to that reality. I just don't see the sexual orientation playing a role in it.
00:30:15:07 - 00:30:26:09
Billy
It's not too different than if you said, here's a box. There's not even a person involved. But if you put your dick in this box after 2 to 7 minutes, you are going to come, like I put it in that category.
00:30:26:11 - 00:30:35:00
Luna
Sure. Yeah. So what I'm hearing is you don't identify as hetero flexible like you are straight. And that is just like the.
00:30:35:00 - 00:30:36:23
Billy
Term whatever that means anymore.
00:30:37:01 - 00:30:57:10
Luna
Right? Right. Well, it, I mean, the stuff that I've read most recently says that it means someone, like, knows that they're attracted to femme women and they're open to other things with people of other parts. But what I'm really hearing from you is like, the mental part of the turn on is important to like knowing who's on the other side and knowing that it's a chick, knowing that's a person.
00:30:57:12 - 00:31:07:19
Billy
Again, this isn't about me. Like, hi, I want to figure out a words way to keep this label. It's just more like my understanding is this is what this means. I'm really big on classifying shit.
00:31:07:20 - 00:31:21:00
Luna
Great. Well, I think the thing that we can definitely agree on is that words can either help us get closer to people sexually, or they can make us way fucking far away if we don't take the time to, like, figure out what they actually mean together.
00:31:21:03 - 00:31:27:05
Billy
Yeah, or in my situation with words can fuck things up because the more I talk, the less attracted someone is to me.
00:31:27:07 - 00:31:42:11
Luna
Or vice versa. Like some people have the complete opposite experience. And for me too, I'm like, if you only want to talk to me a certain amount, if I have to be quiet the whole time, then like, go away. I want to dirty talk during sex. If that throws you off like we're not compatible people and that's fine too.
00:31:42:12 - 00:31:55:12
Luna
Okay, so anything else about like, your sexy work influencing your personal life over the past nine years since you've had Man Whore or since you've done OnlyFans? Like, what has influenced you from a professional standpoint in your personal life?
00:31:55:14 - 00:32:20:10
Billy
Doing the fans helped me accept my body and love my body more and appreciate my body more. I've had a lifelong struggle with body image issues and some disordered eating history. When I got and only fans like the first month, I made my rent. So I had. And then and then again and and again. And then it was like, okay, I can hate my body if I want to, but I have to respect it because it's paying bills.
00:32:20:12 - 00:32:43:06
Billy
And, you know, it definitely helped adjust my relationship with my body. And then I interviewed some other folks who look a variety of different ways, and they had similar experiences where it was like, yeah, doing OnlyFans helped me love and appreciate my belly. Or, you know, a friend of mine in the porn industry, this trans chick, she was like, it allowed me to see myself as the way I thought I was supposed to be.
00:32:43:11 - 00:33:03:11
Billy
And because I got to see myself be hot as a woman finally, or, you know, an older friend of mine who is a sex writer, she's like, I'm 50. And I'm, like, embracing how hot I still am at 50 as opposed to getting into were like, oh, once you're over a certain age or as a woman, you're you're not hot anymore.
00:33:03:15 - 00:33:20:23
Billy
And I got great experiences like that. Or, you know, whether it's race or whatever your thing you think makes you different and unsexy is. Yeah, selling nudes can not for everyone, but can help with that. It can help show you angle literal and metaphorical angles of yourself you didn't know were that book.
00:33:20:23 - 00:33:29:21
Luna
Yes. What do you want to celebrate the most about your sexy work? Right now we have your upcoming shows. Is there anything else?
00:33:29:23 - 00:33:47:21
Billy
Well, you know, my nine year anniversary is next month. I've got Man Horror Con in August. That's an annual. That's an annual meetup. Well, once it used to be annual before we stopped doing some things for a while. So this is actually my first, like, big man work on back. But, yeah, I have, listeners from around the country and Canada.
00:33:47:21 - 00:34:08:11
Billy
They come out to New York and they buy a weekend pass. We do a bunch of fun events, live podcasts, parties that kind of devolved into orgies, even though I did not tell them to do that. Yes, I guess that's what happened when you put my listeners in a safe container together. I might be close to announcing it more formally when this comes out, but I'm putting out a book of dirty haikus.
00:34:08:13 - 00:34:09:12
Luna
Nice.
00:34:09:14 - 00:34:31:12
Billy
I don't think I've talked about that. So maybe this might be a six stories exclusive. But yeah, I'm putting out a book of dirty haikus. So I do this thing on my Patreon. It's one of my original awards I used to do, and I mean, I've been doing, but it's one of the first ones I had where at a certain tier level, I mail you every month a thank you letter and it's hand signed.
00:34:31:12 - 00:34:52:09
Billy
I have notes for you, but also there's a dirty haiku. I would do that every month for all my patrons at a certain level. So I've written about 100 of them for Patreon over all these years. So now I'm putting out a small collection, a chat book of like 30 to 40 poems. It's called Caught Moments Sex and Lust in 17 syllables.
00:34:52:11 - 00:35:12:22
Billy
And so if you're following me on social media, if you're listening to the podcast, if you're on my mailing list, that man or podcast, you'll get updated when that is more officially coming out. I'm right now just finalizing the final drafts of everything and, and making the cover and such, and I got to send it to the printer, but yeah, that's that's the other thing that I'm excited about coming up.
00:35:12:22 - 00:35:15:04
Billy
Yeah. That's going to be fun.
00:35:15:06 - 00:35:25:20
Luna
That's amazing. Now, looking to the future, how are you excited to like, grow yourself even more in sexy work related ways?
00:35:25:22 - 00:35:43:02
Billy
Well, in the sexy work related ways, I I'd love to figure out ways to mix the podcast. And the only fans a little more so I can do some partnered content. I was doing some partnered content. Then I met my now ex. We refer to her as wallet No lady. It was her first foray into non-monogamy. It was a lot of stress.
00:35:43:04 - 00:36:07:08
Billy
We don't got to get into it, but also the fact that, like, I would also sometimes try to hook up with people in a way for money and then also promoting it on social media became difficult, whether it was the social media posting or, you know, I mean, there were sometimes there were shoots where after the shoot there's a stressful phone call or like, I've canceled a shoot late one night because we were up for two hours at night with her stressing out about it.
00:36:07:08 - 00:36:08:17
Luna
Oh fuck.
00:36:08:18 - 00:36:27:04
Billy
So I stopped doing it for forever. So I actually haven't, you know, my OnlyFans kind of is a clip store is not regularly updated at this moment, which is not a smart business thing for me to say right now, but I'm being vulnerable to, whoever is still listening to me. But I have a lot of content on there.
00:36:27:04 - 00:36:44:03
Billy
It's a free page, so you just basically pay for what you want to watch. Yeah. But then so really, what I've been doing the last year or so year and a half has been the DM. So I'm just very active over there. So I do a lot of texting and a lot like video chats and phone chats, and then I'm shooting custom videos.
00:36:44:03 - 00:37:02:21
Billy
I just haven't been posting new stuff. But there's like a lot of stuff on there, including partnered content. So what I would like to do is if I got back into regular partnered content, finding some sort of podcast integration element like maybe I'm interviewing people before we fool around or something of that, of that nature. So I'd like to do some of that if it makes sense.
00:37:02:21 - 00:37:23:09
Billy
And it comes up. I'm still doing the podcast, I am still chugging along towards 500 episodes, which will hit sometime this fall. I'll be at 500. I love what I do, I don't have to go to an office. I do standup, I do a podcast, I write, I sell some dick pics and like, I get to live the lifestyle that I want to live.
00:37:23:11 - 00:37:25:02
Luna
What a life.
00:37:25:04 - 00:37:42:13
Billy
The main goal was. I just want to do this. I want to talk to a microphone and try to make you laugh. What I would like one day I'd love to be, you know, something like a Netflix show would be great. I've got some ideas in the can. I've got a couple books in me. I think those will be progressing soon.
00:37:42:13 - 00:37:46:23
Billy
Now that ADHD medicated. But right now, like I'm having fun doing great.
00:37:47:04 - 00:38:02:06
Luna
Great. Also, you kind of are on your way to like bringing podcasts together with only fans based on your fantasies that you talked about at the beginning. Like, I feel like if we get Billy going down on lots of ladies, there's like a million versions of that that could be, some great crossover content.
00:38:02:08 - 00:38:24:02
Billy
Yeah. If the top of my head situation, if this minoxidil starts working more, you know, then I think I would shoot more kind of Lingus content. But there is something about like when I'm going down on somebody and there's a camera involved, I'm just like, oh God, what's this situation look like? Is that good? Is that okay? I don't know if YouTube could see it, but there's, you know, there's a spot on the top that know how.
00:38:24:04 - 00:38:33:18
Luna
This is when we need proper thrones to get all the proper angles. Because really, if we want, we want that camera in there getting the angles of your tongue in your mouth. I'll come be a camera girl. If I'm ever in New York I love. Will you tell.
00:38:33:18 - 00:38:49:23
Billy
Me? Yeah, yeah, you tell me. Because, like, look, I think there's not enough cunnilingus content. I agree out there. And the pussy eating videos I do have on my OnlyFans perform very well, but, like, I really don't know how to shoot them because usually just us, you kind of have a 1 or 2 static shots. So we got to collaborate.
00:38:49:23 - 00:38:53:22
Billy
You got to direct my next pussy eating video so that we got the right angles.
00:38:53:22 - 00:39:11:11
Luna
I've been doing more erotic content and I'm just now starting to talk about it. And it's literally my like from behind the camera wheel also in front of the camera. But like, I love I fucking love watching because I'm not a voyeur in the strict sense of like, whatever. If we're getting into definition, strictly voyeurism is kind of non-consensual.
00:39:11:11 - 00:39:33:15
Luna
I'm a consensual voyeur. I love being an erotic photographer. Like that's my favorite way to look and capture. So yeah, okay, I'll hit you up when I'm in New York and we'll we'll make it happen. He's do. Okay. I know you don't like to be in charge of things or authorities, but if you could wave a magic wand and teach everyone in the whole wide world something about sex, what would it be?
00:39:33:17 - 00:39:50:20
Billy
Not all sex has to be this, like, escalator towards the hard dick into the vagina. Because one all the sex is going to be with a vagina and a dick. Or only those two things. But also, just like sex can be a lot of things, let it be a lot of things. And then the other thing will be, don't get so weird if the dick isn't hard.
00:39:50:20 - 00:40:01:17
Billy
Whether you own the dick or the dicks in front of your face, they don't get it. Just just let it be. Because sometimes my dick gets hard and soft, like during a blowjob. Like oscillate. But not for nothing. Feels great the whole time.
00:40:01:21 - 00:40:02:17
Luna
I love it.
00:40:02:19 - 00:40:04:04
Billy
You like a soft dick in your mouth.
00:40:04:04 - 00:40:05:03
Luna
Love or like.
00:40:05:03 - 00:40:06:18
Billy
It or like a half hard like like I.
00:40:06:18 - 00:40:09:18
Luna
Love it. Going back and forth. I love the girl. I love the relaxation.
00:40:09:21 - 00:40:30:07
Billy
It's not. It's tiny. It's not smallest, but certainly not like, even erect. Like you couldn't penetrate your pussy with it, but like you like it. There's weight to it, you know what I mean? And so, like, there's some volume going in, some density, so it feels great for me. But then the only reason I'm ever self-conscious if my dick isn't fully hard when I'm getting a blowjob, is because I'm worried she's making a big deal about it in her head.
00:40:30:10 - 00:40:51:10
Billy
If I know she likes it no matter what, or she understands that I'm feeling good no matter what, then I'm good. Yeah, but it's when someone's like, she stop and she's like, are you okay? I'm like, yeah, this feels great. Don't you hear me moaning? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So my one tip would be let go of your preconceptions of what sex look like and just like, do what's feeling good.
00:40:51:12 - 00:41:07:19
Luna
Fuck yeah. That's where like, patience and waiting can be the hardest. I'm not very patient in general, but for sex, for turn ons, for drawing out hotness, I can be the most patient girl in the whole wide world. Okay, so do you want to end on a little fantasy brainstorm with me?
00:41:07:21 - 00:41:08:21
Billy
Sure.
00:41:08:23 - 00:41:32:00
Luna
Okay. Imagine that there's a creative space. It's part sex ed museum. It's part erotic gallery. It has a secret members only dungeon down below or whatever sex basement, whatever could maybe also be a co-working space for only fans, because during the day, I don't know. Imagine the whole place has educational workshops on the weeknights, play parties in the afternoons, on the weekends.
00:41:32:00 - 00:41:47:15
Luna
So those of us who don't like staying up late and still have energy and fuck and you, Billy, have been tasked with designing one of the rooms. It's the Billy room. It can represent you. It can promote your brand. It could be like an experience that you want people to have. When you go there and think of you, you have an unlimited budget.
00:41:47:17 - 00:41:50:05
Luna
What's the Billy room like?
00:41:50:06 - 00:41:55:17
Billy
It's is I've ever seen those, like, questionable Czechoslovakia and Glory Hole room videos.
00:41:55:19 - 00:41:57:23
Luna
No, but I'm excited, okay?
00:41:58:04 - 00:42:14:00
Billy
They're questionable to me because, like, they don't have the standard, like, you know, those title slides in a porn where like, acknowledges like, hey, everyone here consensus of like, you know, those things, but that's because of American laws. I don't know what they're doing over there. So I have to like, suspend some disbelief. Sometimes I go like, this is a production budget.
00:42:14:00 - 00:42:33:21
Billy
Surely not everyone in this video is trafficked. I hope, but but it's the be these rooms with like, glory holes. But they'll be like normal ones. They'll be ones where there's like a pussy. It's up in the air. Raise that like face level. Yeah. So you can, like, eat out of random pussy. There's, like, bent over butts, like sticking out of a hole or like the pussies out like a fucking angle.
00:42:33:23 - 00:42:53:03
Billy
So it's all that. And then they usually have, like, the face pictures, like taped on the wood next to it. Anyways, I would have a more complicated, diverse array of stuff like that for different stuff and purposes. So it'd just be a stranger playroom where like you can go look to do a thing to somebody, or you could go behind a wall or into the box or whatever.
00:42:53:03 - 00:43:16:09
Billy
The thing is. Now Hacienda, they have this like one way mirror thing that's really cool where like, it's Booth and you go in and you close the curtain and inside it's just mirrors. You only see yourself and they'll be like, mirror panel. And then a very, very thin like arm with space in between the that and the next mirror panel.
00:43:16:09 - 00:43:33:11
Billy
And they'll be like kind of a curtain where it's like I'm trying to describe this for your, your podcast listeners, where it's split down the middle. So if you can stick your hand through the curtain, but it's like the separation is in the middle, right? If that makes sense. And then there's another mirror panel and then another space with this.
00:43:33:15 - 00:43:49:14
Billy
And so it's that going around. So that was like so people can reach in and touch and grope you or whatever. Like you could stick your dick in and see what happens, or you could stick your dick out and see what happens. Right. But outside of this boots, you can see in oh.
00:43:49:16 - 00:43:50:09
Luna
Hot.
00:43:50:11 - 00:44:11:03
Billy
So if you're in the booth, you actually don't know who is doing what to you or who's reaching in and filling up your body. But from the outside you can look in, you see, like this person there, and then you're feeling them up or whatever it is you're doing. That's really I think that's a really hot box. I actually need to, like, arrange a friend to, like, put me in there and then have them maybe see the get some people to do some stuff to me.
00:44:11:03 - 00:44:28:10
Billy
But that's a good brainstorm for later on. Yeah. So so the Billy room would be like a stranger themed room. Maybe there's like a space where it's like, here's a small closet. It's going to be pitch black. And like, I don't know, I we gotta work out some kinks. I know there's some nerds who are going like, but what about the consent negotiation?
00:44:28:10 - 00:44:29:07
Luna
No, no, no.
00:44:29:09 - 00:44:41:00
Billy
We're not Nancy's own. Assume it worked. It got worked out exactly. We'll work out the details when this is a reality. But like, that would be the. Yeah, like a sensory deprivation tank with another person.
00:44:41:02 - 00:44:53:04
Luna
Fuck yes. That would be hard as fuck. I love it. These are great brainstorms. And now now I know what to make the Billy room like. Billy. Any final thoughts about sex, sexiness, or your own sexiness?
00:44:53:06 - 00:45:12:19
Billy
Tomorrow I'm supposed to go watch some couple fuck from a bar, and I'm supposed to look across the street from the bar because their bedroom is directly across the street from some nice bar with big windows, and I'm supposed to go and have a drink and watch from there, and maybe they'll invite me over to cross the street and maybe not.
00:45:12:19 - 00:45:18:00
Luna
But I'm guessing you're not bringing binoculars. You're just have to be like, regular casual out in the world.
00:45:18:02 - 00:45:34:18
Billy
It doesn't seem like they're going to need that. I trust their process and their fantasy. And it seems like, however, the dimensions of wherever this is is. Maybe it's like a small, narrow street, but they did not say, hey, you're going to need binoculars, so I won't bring binoculars.
00:45:34:18 - 00:45:42:12
Luna
Hot as fuck. Oh my God, lovers go fund Billy online. Billy, where do they find you? Online. Where should they? Where should they stalk you?
00:45:42:14 - 00:46:02:09
Billy
Well, you can find me on social media, you know, just search my name, I show up, Billy, proceed to process the idea. Obviously. Check the man Whore podcast wherever you're listening to. Y yo, I've got almost 500 episodes over there. You can go check out those episode if you want to start with that one. But also I have over the last few years, I have been develop a very large discord community.
00:46:02:09 - 00:46:22:12
Billy
It's a sex positive community. You don't even have to like the man. You don't have to listen to man her podcast at all. But as a sex positive space, if you feel like you need like minded friends on the internet, maybe you don't have a place to go to talk about kink, non-monogamy, dating, etc. so if you want to join, the champagne room is free to join if you want to come join.
00:46:22:14 - 00:46:33:12
Billy
I think we're at over 600 members in there. You can go to man whore pod.com/discord. Come on in, join the conversations and y yo, thanks for having me on.
00:46:33:14 - 00:46:38:18
Luna
Fuck, yeah. Lovers. Those links are in the description. Go follow him. Billy. Thanks for helping me spread the love.
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