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Luna

Our guest today is a 27 year old bisexual, homo romantic, Cuban-American female who grew up Catholic. Historically monogamous in her romantic life, she is open to exploring the poly world in the future and has been single since June 2022. Currently casually dating and having lots of sex, she is into heavy choking and breath play spanking, hair pulling, face slapping, spitting and rough play in general.

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Luna

Infatuated with Cassie, she is waiting on the right sex partner to try it with. Having had quite a few threesomes lately, she really wants to explore foursomes and foursomes. She loves sucking cock, playing with pussies and watching women come. A professional singer from Florida welcome em.

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Em

Hello. Thanks for having me.

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Luna

Thank you for being here. Can you start off by telling us if you had to reach your self on a sexual shame, a meter with ten being the most full of shame and one being not so shaming at all? Where do you fall right now? Today?

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Em

Definitely varies, but I'd say I'm like a solid 2 to 3.

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Luna

Okay, when if ever does it shift? And were you always are 2 or 3?

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Em

Definitely not always a 2 or 3. That's probably happened in the last like six months. Nice. I feel like I was always at 5 or 6, always been kinky. I've always had all these thoughts and everything, but I don't have a lot of people in my circle that are like that. So I, you know, get a little judgments.

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Em

And it's not always upfront judgment. Sometimes it's like, oh, well, I hope you're being safe. And it makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong. Yeah, that's when it fluctuates. When I talk to those people, for sure.

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Luna

Okay. We got a little snippet of like, what your sex life is like right now, but will you give us just a couple more overview details, like what's your favorite part right now?

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Em

Oh, I feel like I haven't had this many partners in a while and I'm loving it. I have like a couple of Doms right now. I have a couple that I'm regularly playing with. I have somebody who wants me to be like a dominatrix, and I've never explored that side, and we're kind of learning together. So there's a lot of like fun new things that are happening right now.

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Em

So that's my favorite part, just trying out new things.

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Luna

That is amazing. How are you meeting people primarily.

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Em

Mainly online, on field and on set life. It starts online and then I meet them in person. I'm kind of not good at meeting people in person, like at a bar or something. I get really shy. I don't seem shy, but I'm like initial relationships that we haven't talked online. Yeah, especially because you don't know how kinky people are in the real world.

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Em

When I meet them on these sites, we talk immediately. What are you looking for? I know I don't have to feel ashamed expressing what I like, so I think I just get scared meeting people in person.

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Luna

But do you feel like if you were at a kink event or something where you had guardrails, would it still be difficult? Or do you feel like that would be like possible?

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Em

I think that would be possible because again, it's like a kink meetup, so I know there might not be into what I'm into, but we can openly, in a safe space, talk about what we're into. Whereas like in a regular, you know, in the vanilla world or whatever, meeting people like, I got lucky because actually on Saturday I met somebody in third grade.

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Em

I called them just a random stranger at the bar. I mean, normally that doesn't happen. Normally it's I get a little uncomfortable. That's what my name and meter will go up. Okay, okay. I don't want to have sex with a stranger and say, no, no, don't choke me harder. Or like, hit me. I don't want them to be like, what are you doing it for?

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Luna

Sure, for sure. Yeah. Okay. Can you tell us now what is sexy to you?

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Em

I feel like a lot of people would say confidence, but that's huge for me. Like knowing what you want and eye contact is so sexy to me. Like, if somebody is staring me down into my soul. It's the sexiest. And honestly, like, I like to masturbate in front of a mirror sometimes and I just stare at myself and like, I don't know what the eyes do.

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Em

For me, it's just eye contact. No matter if it's myself, somebody else. Like, it's so sexy. Wow.

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Luna

Okay, so is that true in partnered sex as well? Like, do you love that connection during and like do also like looking at physical stuff that's happening.

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Em

Stuff that's happening? I do enjoy looking at the physical stuff. But I will stare into your eyes. Yeah, yeah. If it's oral, if it's like actual penetration, whatever it is. Like I usually don't make eye contact. I love, I love seeing what is happening. The face tells so much. So I just love like, you see what you're feeling.

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Luna

Totally. There are moments where I have like, definitely wished I had more sets of eyeballs, which I think is also why I've loved some of my own homemade porn so much because I'm like, I get to just stare at you, but then I get to see what you were seeing later. Like assuming my partner's in charge of the camera, so like.

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Luna

That's cool. Any other sexy things that you want to mention? Got confidence with that eye contact?

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Em

I would say, like, for myself, I love when I get out of the shower, when you're kind of, like, dripping a little big. You're not totally dried off. I have this big mirror and I've been, like, learning a lot more self-confidence. So I feel like I look really sexy and I feel really sexy. After the shower, I just got my nipples pierced like a few months ago.

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Em

What was that.

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Luna

Like?

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Em

Oh, okay. Yeah, the first one wasn't terrible, but the second one is like, your adrenaline is gone. So that second one off was fucking painful. But when I tell you, like, I feel so much more confident. Like I look at myself in the mirror, I'm like, damn. Like she's hot. I'm obsessed with them. I'm so happy I got them.

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Em

They really, like, have changed me. That sounds so weird because it's just a piercing, but I love them.

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Luna

Oh that's amazing. Okay, I have a couple of close questions that relate to sexiness. Do you wear things without a bra so that people can tell your nipples are pierced?

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Em

Answer is, I don't even own a bra. Okay, okay, okay.

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Luna

So what clothes do make you feel the sexiest and. Okay. Wait. Sorry. My brain is doing too many things at once because then I'm like, that means you don't have any see-through shirts, but do you have See-through shirts? I do have bras. That or anything.

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Em

I have like 2 or 3 bras less that I usually wear when I'm like singing it working. You can still feel it. You can't see like color or anything. You can still see them. And I do have see-through shirts like fully super shirt, and I don't know if it's because I got them pierced for wet, but pretty much every time I go out, my shirt comes up.

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Em

At some point I was at the bar, flashed the bar three times. I was out the other night. My friends, every time there's a camera and someone's taking a picture, my shirt comes up. I love it, I love my tits and I'm not afraid to show them. And their boobs. Everybody has nipples. Everybody has this flash on your body.

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Em

I think it's so stupid. Like how sexy, even though you know to. They're hot. I love it, but, like, how sexualized and like, oh my gosh, the poles are showing through your shirt. I'm like, yeah, they're fucking showing.

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Luna

I'm like, yeah you're welcome.

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Em

Yeah, yeah you're welcome.

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Luna

Okay, so on that note now, I too love showing the body, showing the naked parts. And I'm in the process of deeply learning how clothes can act as a very tantalizing wrapper for nakedness. What clothes make you feel the sexiest?

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Em

I mean, when wearing right now was literally just like a black, tight little top. I don't have boobs, but it's like low cut. And I love that. I like showing my tattoos. I have quite a few that makes me feel sexy, but I think like just little comfortable tiny tops is what I like. Like, yeah, my bottom half right now I'm in like sweatpants shorts, but I'll usually just put on jeans or something more casual, something to make for Africa.

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Em

And of course I'm back.

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Luna

Yeah. Okay. Now can you please give us an example of a sexy, explicitly clear yes that you have either given and or received that led to something super hot?

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Em

Yeah, I feel like I have a few, but I'll say like a recent one. So I had met, you know, one of my Doms and I met them on field and they live about three hours away from me, but I travel a lot, so sometimes I'm in the area, whatever. So we were messaging and this was like the first day that we were messaging back and forth, and I sent some pictures because I love Snoots, I love sending pictures, videos, receiving all of it.

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Em

And I sent him a picture and he was like, daddy needs you to be here by 5:00. And I was three hours away. I was not in the area. Oh wow. And I used to not like the daddy talk. I never called anybody that used to like, I don't know, it made me feel some kind of way, but there was just something about the way he said that, that immediately I was like, yes, daddy.

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Em

And I had an hour to pack my shit and get my stuff together, and I drove three hours to go see him. When I got there, I had messaged him. It was a three hour ride. I said, hey, by the way, when you get there, I just have to go to the restroom quick. He's like, of course. I walk in and immediately he just like grass without a hair.

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Em

Then I can like skirts making out with me. And then he whispered the most quiet whisper in my ear, saying, you're going to go upstairs, use the bathroom, and I want you on your knees in my bedroom. And I was just like, that's the way it was. Just that confidence that he knew what he wanted. And I was like, yes, yes, sir.

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Em

Yeah, okay. And it was great. I had just gotten there. We talked. It was great. Like amazing. We kept eye contact. The entire time and I felt like I had been fucking him for years. I truly felt like I knew him for years. There was some crazy connection. And after we finished, we sat and we talked for like an hour.

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Em

We went in the kitchen, make me a drink. Then he put me on the counter. We started having sex again and then afterwards he has long hair so he was like, you want to break my hair? I was friends greeting his hair. We were watching TV, we were cuddling, and then it was time for me to go. And I've been like for hours that I was there.

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Em

And then we had sex one more time and I left, and it was the first time I met him, and it was just like, I really felt like something happened, something like happened. And it was great.

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Luna

Wow, what a magical exchange. What needs to be in place for you, like safety wise or invitation wise for it to get to a yes like that for you. Especially like that fast? Like what? Like alchemy has to happen for you.

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Em

I mean, almost immediately when we started messaging, it was like, what are you looking for? And then what do you like? What are your desires? What do you not like? You know, we kind of like really talked right off the bat, which I also hadn't really done a lot of partners. Okay. And then we did talk about like safety and safe sex, which again, I'm not good at and gotten better.

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Em

Now honestly, listening to your podcast, great. But I wasn't that good at it. And we talked about it right off the bat. So I don't know, you just made me feel comfortable. Yes. And our desires lined up, you know, so totally, totally.

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Luna

Safety is so sexy and aligned. Desires is like the most delicious in my opinion. So I can't wait to hear your other explicit yeses, by the way. Like what a great story to start off with. But before we get there, when you're like telling a friend that you got laid last night, what are you usually referring to? Like what counts as sex for you?

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Luna

And if there are different contexts, break it down for us.

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Em

Okay, so I think for me it depends on gender. So with men, if I said that I had sex with a guy it almost always means penetration. Otherwise I'd say I blew him out. I described the things that happened, but I don't normally say sex unless there was penetration with a woman. I think it's a little bit more vague because sex with a woman, to me, if her mouth or my mouth or on each other's privates and there's fingers and there's coming, it's sex to me.

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Em

Like if I'm fingering a girl and I'm eating her out, I fucked her. Yeah.

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Luna

Amazing. Okay. Rewinding a little bit to your younger years, did you ever get a helpful sex education or sex talk from an adult that you trusted and or lesson in consent?

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Em

No. The consent, yes, but not in terms of sex specifically, I feel like my mom was very good at telling us, like, if, you know, even just a family member or an older man or whatever, like, you know, you never let anybody touch you and make you feel uncomfortable. You come to me right away. But it was never about consent with the partner.

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Em

Like when you're ready to be sexual, you know, it was more safety when we were younger. Definitely not really health and safety. We had, I think in fifth grade, the separation of the boys and girls. We got pads, deodorant, stuff like that. And in middle school there was some kind of talk, but it's Florida school system. It sucked.

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Luna

Okay, so then tell us what happens to your shame a meter when it is time to talk to a partner about safer sex? You said you've been getting better at it. Tell us a little bit the kind of like progression and what you're feeling confident about now.

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Em

So I feel like growing up in, like a very traditional Hispanic Catholic home, those were things we just didn't talk about and talk about sex we don't even talk about. Like, I was embarrassed, even in high school to ask my mom for a tampon. It made me feel uncomfortable. And major, we have a great relationship. We talk every day.

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Em

We always have, but we just didn't talk about those things, so it was just uncomfortable to talk about that. So I never really did. I would say like, do you have a condom? We're not having talks about a condom. And when I was in high school, but otherwise I never really had that talk. Now I am very sexually comfortable with myself.

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Em

In the last few years I have felt more and more myself. But to be honest, I'm not even just saying this. Like actually listening to your podcast and hearing everybody talk about safe sex talks has almost like with that fire under me, it's like, what is so wrong about talking about safe sex? Yeah, that makes it sexier. Infrastructure.

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Em

And you talk about it, you say, you know what? I actually just had sex. So like, I need to get tested again. And, you know, it's the communication. Yeah. So now I'm actually having a little sex compared on Wednesday. And that was I brought it up. I was like, when was the last time I tested. Are you clear?

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Em

Like, how would it go? Like, this is when I was tested and I told them I was like, just like, you know, I have had sex since then, so whatever you feel comfortable, I'll get tested again. I don't care, you let me know.

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Luna

This makes my heart so happy. Like I, you know, because I'm having these conversations. Because I wish I had had access to this. Do you mind if I ask kind of what? I realize I haven't been doing this with people. So what are your comfort levels with partnership? Like when do you use barriers? When do you decide not to use them?

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Luna

What's kind of like if you were to go to a play party, if that's on your menu of options like what are you using protection for? Where do you allow fluids?

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Em

To be totally honest, I don't use protection a lot. I have never gone to a play party. Definitely if it was that kind of situation, I would be using it. But if I feel comfortable enough with the person, like even when I'm at my dorm, we use a condom. The first time we had sex and then we talked if we were comfortable and I said yes.

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Em

So we took it off for the next time. I like that. I feel like it's a more intimate connection. I like fluids, I know fluid bonding is like a big step for some people, but I don't mind it, I enjoy them, I like it, so it's not like an issue for me.

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Luna

Okay. Are you on some sort of birth control? I know this is a very personal question. Like what are kind of your needs there?

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Em

So I'm not right now. I was I had an IUD in for five years. Okay. And when it expired and I pulled it out or they pulled it out. Yeah. Yeah. I was dating a woman at the time, so I didn't need it. So it's only been since June that I've been single. And not only that, but it's only been like maybe four months, but I'm having sex with my partners.

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Em

Okay, so I need to get back on it. I do have a spermicide that sometimes I will use, and the occasional plan B when I need to, or if I feel that I need to, but I'm not on a consistent birth control right now.

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Luna

And just I don't know if I've shared this with people lately. I'm not either. I haven't been on birth control in over a decade, and I have had unprotected and protected sex with partners. And I don't know, like, I don't let people come inside me. But also it's like, yeah, the pull up method is not a method. But also, you know, it's all about risk tolerance, right?

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Luna

And just reminding anyone if you haven't listened to old episodes, I have herpes in my throat because I chose to not use condoms for oral sex. So now I do oftentimes use condoms a lot more for oral sex than I ever did, you know, just to mitigate risk factors. And then I also meet a lot of people that are, again, comfortable with that risk.

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Luna

Okay. Excellent intro. I'm so excited to get to like especially the recent details, but take us through your whole sexual timeline. Like hit the highlights. Tell us what formed you starting at the very beginning in your younger years, when do you first remember sex kind of entering your sphere of understanding?

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Em

I feel like it first entered like without the understanding. I really don't know why and just always been like a very sexual person. Since elementary school. I remember like, having sleepovers and playing like, spin the bottle. And I'm like eight years old and we don't even know what that means. And we, like, went in a closet. And I remember one time I was naked with one of my friends, and we, like, decided to, I don't know, grind on each other.

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Em

And we said, oh, well, I think you can have a baby, so make sure you have an underwear on. But we're both girls. Like, we have no idea how that worked. Yeah. You know, but we were still exploring. And one time in like third grade, I had a neighbor and she came over. I don't know if it was my furniture, my brother's furniture.

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Em

They got a whole new furniture set. So in my garage was like dressers, like in a little box and then the mattress in the middle so you can kind of climb into it. We would play back there and a friend of mine, she and I started exploring. We were playing Mommy and Daddy, and I remember her getting like a bulge of socks and putting it like, you know, in her panties and us like, grinding back and forth.

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Em

And then somebody walked into the garage and we're like, oh, okay. And then afterwards, I think, I think you meet to go, like, I think I freaked out, I didn't know what was happening. And she felt good. And I was like, okay, let's stop this right now. So that started very young. And I think I really started understanding what sex was probably in like sixth grade.

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Em

Okay. One of my classmates, for some reason, asked my teacher what masturbation was and if it was normal. And I remember writing it down in my notebook because I'd never heard that word before. And so sure enough, I went home. And that's when it kind of all began. I started masturbating, I started looking at porn. I was like, whoa, what is this world like?

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Em

I had no idea. And then, like, dots started connecting to all the things I've always been feeling. Yeah. And that's when I started really getting an understanding, like, okay, this is what this is. Wow.

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Luna

That is wild. Do you remember what your teacher answered?

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Em

The teacher was a little bit creepy. I remember him saying, like, it's very normal. I do it myself. Oh, like what? Oh, it's a little weird, but I think he just told them like, no, it's normal. Like, it's just something that people do. Usually it's like a ghost or I don't, I don't recall at all, but it intrigued me big time.

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Em

And then I started and didn't stop. I would take like hour long showers. That faucet was my friend. The water pressure in my house was great.

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Luna

Congratulation.

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Em

I would like use like the end of razors to like insert. I would like, you know, really just explore myself in the shower all the time. Yeah, I had a couple of friends like once in seventh grade. This was the time when Chatroulette and Omegle were like a thing.

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Luna

Oh yeah.

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Em

And I was in seventh grade and now that I do this, it's so bad because it's illegal. I was underage, but me and my friend put the camera and we were next to each other and off masturbating next to each other and had our position, the camera. And I remember somebody saying like, oh, touch each other. And in my brain I was about to be like, okay.

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Em

And my friend was like, no, sicko. And like, change it. And I was like, I mean, we are next to each other masturbating. So I think that's also when my infatuation with women started really creeping in.

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Luna

Did you get any messages around that, like around like gayness or anything like that, or were you just like, I like what I like?

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Em

It wasn't like straight up like, this is wrong, but I did grow up Catholic, you know, one of my cousins is gay, and I've known that since I was younger, and everyone loves him the same. So I didn't really have any to put super negative connotation with it. But I knew, like, inside, like it was wrong. Like, you know, with a man and a woman that's that was in my brain, you know, it's what I learned in church and everything.

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Em

But I also kind of didn't care. I was like, you know what? If I like it, I'm going to try it. Yeah. And then that led. So I lost my virginity young in eighth grade. I lost my virginity to a man and two women in that same year, and it was great. So I remember the one with women a lot more than the man.

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Em

But one of my good friends, we had a little sleepover. There was like five of us and she used to hook up with the boys like I knew she had had sex. And so she and I were kind of like the early developers in sex. I don't know, I don't know how to explain that. Like nobody else really, in our age group was doing that.

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Luna

Your early bloomers. Yeah. Positively bloomers.

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Em

Hence the word early bloomers. So we're hanging out and we're praying, calling people whatever. Me and her under the blanket. Kind of like tickling each other, touching each other. And then she kissed me and we started to sing. And our other friends are like, what has become of that blanket? We're like, oh, nothing. We're praying, calling or giggling or whatever.

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Em

And she's like, okay, it's time for bed. She says, don't worry, I'm and I will go sleep in the other room, my sister's room. I was like, okay, perfect. So immediately we started making out clothes came off and there's just it's all a little bit makes us young. But there's one moment I really remember and I was eating her out and cleaning her, and I was laying on my stomach on the bed, and I being so turned on and, like, rubbing up against the mattress.

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Em

I remember coming from, you know, and it was incredible. Yeah, it was a great experience. It was really great with the guy experience. I honestly hardly remember it, but he was my boyfriend. We had been dating like two months maybe, and, we hadn't even done anything. He had fingered me the day before we had sex, but I hadn't blown him.

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Em

I hadn't been experiencing anything else. But we talked about it and it was my first time I was in love. So I was like, let's do it. And it was Halloween night. I was at my best friend's house and he knew what I wanted to do. So he let me into his room and Lil Wayne was playing in the background.

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Em

It was like so weird. I do remember him at one point saying like, are you okay? Is this okay? And I don't think it was too bad, but I will say we dated for a year after that. We had sex constantly. Okay, I was 13, he was 14, and obviously we don't drive, we don't have cars. It's hard to figure out where you want to do it.

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Em

But yeah, I never thought about this back then. But he's an exhibitionist for sure. Like loves public sex because we used to have sex in public all the time. We had sex in our middle school and the staircase teacher walking down the staircase and everything.

00:24:02:16 - 00:24:04:17

Luna

Do it indoor or outdoor? Middle school?

00:24:04:19 - 00:24:20:18

Em

It's outdoor, but the staircase was inside like it was like a closed off circuit. I remember being like bent over, like in downward dog and Kim still inside me and the teacher started walking down. So we just paused and I was like. And then they walked out. And then we kept going. What?

00:24:20:20 - 00:24:21:07

Luna

They didn't.

00:24:21:07 - 00:24:24:16

Em

Even. They didn't notice. We were underneath the stairs.

00:24:24:18 - 00:24:27:09

Luna

Oh my gosh.

00:24:27:11 - 00:24:52:22

Em

We would do it like we were in rooms of people. And just like under a blanket, he would just slip it in like, you know, the choir, which, you know, they're not really consenting to that. So that wasn't right. But we were young and horny and that's not something I do now. But we had sex, like at the beach with my family, like in the water, in my pool, at my parents house, like, all over the place.

00:24:53:00 - 00:25:03:06

Luna

Wow. Was your vagina always fine? Like I've heard, you know, like chlorine. I don't know, I guess chlorine. Okay. Beach scum. Like, did you ever have any, like, issues?

00:25:03:07 - 00:25:13:03

Em

Not that I can recall, to be honest. I think I felt like I'd be a few times, but, you know, it just kind of let it do its thing, because. Who was I going to tell? Not my mom.

00:25:13:05 - 00:25:32:06

Luna

Right? Right. So, you know, at that point, you've been at least exposed to porn for a couple of years. If I did math and tracked it in my head correctly. And you are, yes, six, almost seven years younger than me. So you would have had a little bit more streaming capabilities by the time you were exploring this. So like that, you know, because like when I was.

00:25:32:06 - 00:25:33:15

Luna

Yeah. What do you remember?

00:25:33:15 - 00:25:35:14

Em

I had a family computer.

00:25:35:16 - 00:25:36:06

Luna

Okay.

00:25:36:08 - 00:25:54:17

Em

Like the sits in the kitchen. So it was always like late nights. I had like a BlackBerry. I don't think we paid for the internet. I think maybe when I was in eighth grade, I got a sidekick and I did have entered on my phone, but it was always like the private browsing. Delete my history. Not easy access.

00:25:54:23 - 00:25:55:23

Em

Okay.

00:25:56:00 - 00:26:12:12

Luna

What do you remember about that? Like offering you in terms of knowing what to do? I mean, because it sounds like that in a sense, was a lot of the education that you got where, you know, compared to the school biological stuff, where they put you up and barely tell you anything. This is something I'm thinking about a lot because I've been like deep diving in education.

00:26:12:12 - 00:26:16:00

Luna

More people I talked to like learning about sex from porn. So I'm just very curious.

00:26:16:00 - 00:26:42:04

Em

Yeah, I think definitely I used to like if I wanted to try something new or if I felt like I wasn't giving her well enough or whatever, I would look it up from an appointee and usually I look up like amateur stuff because it just felt more real and natural to me. And I would, I mean, like stare at it, rewind it, like I would really learn from that and it like turned me on.

00:26:42:04 - 00:26:44:16

Em

So I think it just made me a hornier person in general.

00:26:44:16 - 00:26:48:03

Luna

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you were like, seeking out stuff that you wanted.

00:26:48:05 - 00:26:48:17

Em

Yes.

00:26:48:21 - 00:26:49:04

Luna

Okay.

00:26:49:09 - 00:26:54:16

Em

That's that's what taught me, like, I didn't have a teacher. My teacher was myself deep diving into porn.

00:26:54:18 - 00:27:00:00

Luna

Yeah. When you and your friend were on, what were the site like? Omega and.

00:27:00:02 - 00:27:01:08

Em

Omegle.

00:27:01:10 - 00:27:07:14

Luna

Chatroulette and Chatroulette. Was that also in the family computer? Was that like another like, was that the friend's private?

00:27:07:14 - 00:27:16:18

Em

Okay, that was my friend. I didn't even have a laptop until college. So it was my friend's laptop. She she's bring it over, do homework, whatever. Okay. And so we that.

00:27:16:20 - 00:27:34:13

Luna

I breezed past that kind of like I didn't ask follow up questions because how do we talk about like, young children as adults like doing this. But at the same time, I can't help but think, you know, so much of what I encounter. The more that I try to educate and the more that I'm coming up against, like our censorship laws that are supposedly designed to keep young people safe.

00:27:34:13 - 00:27:47:21

Luna

Is that just like in a void of information? Of course that's going to happen. And of course, on platforms that aren't necessarily filtering for that, because like, I know they have the like 18 plus button to check. But like any smart kid can pretend like they're 18.

00:27:47:23 - 00:27:49:17

Em

Just say, yeah, yeah.

00:27:49:19 - 00:28:03:03

Luna

You know, so looking back as a person who seems fine that like, I don't know, do you have anything else to say about that or like, how do you think we should talk about that? Or like, what was it like to be like. Yes, maybe. And then your friend was like, no, what a sicko. Like, how did they like, we don't know until we know, right?

00:28:03:05 - 00:28:21:08

Em

Yeah. I think because we can have those talks like that wasn't in the education system. Like it's almost like a don't ask, don't tell. Like we don't talk about that. Like you're really you don't talk about sex like yeah, that's always how it was. So we sort it out for ourselves. We were intrigued. We wanted to see these things.

00:28:21:08 - 00:28:30:07

Em

We wanted to explore. And I think we had those talks. I mean, we probably still would have been sexual, but I don't think we would have been doing those crazy things right.

00:28:30:10 - 00:28:46:14

Luna

I'm very baffled by this concept that like to keep us safe. The things they're the most curious about. Let's just try to make a void of information and then like if they're smart enough to get around it, then they can. And then it's like, good luck, kids. All right. Well, I'm I'm also open to, like, thoughts out there from the audience too.

00:28:46:16 - 00:28:55:05

Luna

Because it's a complicated, complicated topic. So going back to now, your formative experiences, you had sex with partners. What happened next? What was formative?

00:28:55:07 - 00:29:10:05

Em

So. Okay, this is tricky. Gets a little fucked up that that boyfriend cheated on me. I found out that the night that I lost my virginity to him, he cheated on me with my best friend. The one that I had hooked up with.

00:29:10:06 - 00:29:12:22

Luna

Oh, how was it to find that out?

00:29:13:00 - 00:29:33:05

Em

It was very, very hard. I mean, that was like the first love of my life. And it was so hard. I was like borderline suicidal. It was like a really dark time. And honestly, I think it really flipped the switch because I got into high school the next year. That happened in the summer when I found all that out.

00:29:33:07 - 00:29:53:09

Em

I went to high school and I went to a different high school, like I switched from public school to Catholic school. So that was already hard going through that. I had barely any friends because I didn't know anyone in this new school. Also, going to a Catholic school, there's a lot of like naive, prude and not in a bad way.

00:29:53:09 - 00:30:15:00

Em

But you know, they didn't know any better people. So me feeling like sexual and other stuff, it was almost like suppressed even more. It was like, shame on me at ten. But it flipped a switch and I was like, fuck, man, I don't want an emotion. And I'm going to do whatever I want. So when I was a freshman, I was screwing like the juniors.

00:30:15:00 - 00:30:33:16

Em

The seniors got like having sex in cars in the school parking lot. I like kind of went on a rampage. I was like, I'm not going to be in any kind of relationship. I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want. And I did that. My brother was a junior when I was a freshman, so I used to like hook up with his friends and they would come over.

00:30:33:20 - 00:30:38:14

Em

I knew some of the seniors like family, friends. It was like, I'm like, wild.

00:30:38:16 - 00:30:45:19

Luna

Yeah, yeah. Wow. Was it mostly penis owners or did you have any vagina during that time? Like was it everyone or how were you selecting.

00:30:45:21 - 00:31:08:07

Em

Mainly penis owners? And I really do think it had something to do with like getting back at my ex. I did have a few giant owners, a few friends, one friend who was openly gay at the school. So we would hook up and one of my best friends, who at the time she was openly gay, we had a few wild moments in high school.

00:31:08:11 - 00:31:30:11

Em

Definitely. Yeah. And then I'd say my sophomore year of high school is when I met my future ex-husband, now my high school sweetheart, we started dating when I was a sophomore, and he was a senior, and, he was one of my brother's friends. Actually, the sex was really good. He ended up going into the military, so he was away.

00:31:30:11 - 00:31:56:02

Em

So it made it grow fonder. There was a lot of like sexting and videos, which was kind of newer to me and was really hot. Like Skype sex, which I loved. And then when he'd come into town, it was like, you know, oh, hats off. Yeah, yeah, he really introduced me to a lot of kink without us even really knowing, you know, the choking, hair pulling, spanking.

00:31:56:02 - 00:32:06:02

Em

Like we had some really good sex, but the communication was never there, which is so weird to me. So, like, I'm glad that we both had the same kind of desires.

00:32:06:02 - 00:32:06:10

Luna

Yeah.

00:32:06:14 - 00:32:16:15

Em

And we kind of grew together, but it's. So we never once talked about, like, what do you want? What do you like? And it's so strange to me when I think back on it now.

00:32:16:15 - 00:32:22:03

Luna

Totally, totally. And this was like, as you were still in high school and he was in the military, or was it a little bit later.

00:32:22:05 - 00:32:35:04

Em

He was still in military, but probably my senior year. Senior year or the year after is when he started coming back more and more. And then when he came back, we got married and we moved in together. It got really real quick.

00:32:35:06 - 00:32:37:09

Luna

How long would you go without seeing each other?

00:32:37:11 - 00:32:40:10

Em

The longest was like ten months. He deployed twice.

00:32:40:11 - 00:32:52:04

Luna

Oh, wow. Okay, so you would go long periods of time without seeing each other, but then it sounds like when you did, even when you were, like, living together now around each other all the time, it was still more kinky than ever.

00:32:52:06 - 00:33:11:16

Em

It was great. And actually, while he was away, I did hook up with a couple of girls and at first I didn't tell him. And then I did tell him because I was like, oh my God, I feel terrible. Yeah. And he was like, no, like that. Okay. Like please, like pleasure yourself. Like not with guys, with girls, like go ahead.

00:33:11:19 - 00:33:31:23

Em

And I think he didn't really grasp the fact that I truly was into women. Yeah. So he was like, yeah, that's hot. Go ahead. All right. But I was like, all right, you give me permission. So. So I had fun. But yeah, our sex life was pretty good. It didn't start going bad until maybe like the last year we were together.

00:33:32:01 - 00:33:56:12

Em

My libido either is like at 100 or it's like, at, like a 20. I go through bouts of like a couple of months. I'm stressed or depressed or something normal. It's sometimes it just happens. Yeah. And at one point in our lives, like, I was like very depressed and I wasn't really seeking help. And he was sort of cheating on me.

00:33:56:14 - 00:34:14:04

Em

Okay. And I didn't know this at the time. He had like a secret girlfriend of like seven months, I mean, and in that time we had, like, our big wedding because we got courthouse married. So we were having our big wedding. We built a house, we got not one dog, we got two dogs. And everything was like working out.

00:34:14:04 - 00:34:24:14

Em

We were having sex again. Things were going well and he still had this girlfriend. And I found out because she found out about me, she didn't know he was in a relationship. Oh, wow. Wow.

00:34:24:16 - 00:34:29:09

Luna

So that's like whole double life status. So she found out, and then she told you or.

00:34:29:11 - 00:34:48:23

Em

Yeah, she reached out to me, and honestly, she told me everything. I don't know why, I don't know, it was a good intention. Bad intention. I'm glad she told me. But I was asking her questions and like she would send me videos of them having sex. Yeah. He, like, bought her sex toys. All these things that she never got for me.

00:34:49:01 - 00:35:07:18

Em

Like I told you, our communication wasn't there. Yeah, so. But he's communicating with this other girl and having, like, all this crazy, kinky sex when he could be developing that with me. Yeah. So it was hard. And I was, you know, another trust issue. Yeah. Onto myself because it was a pattern.

00:35:07:20 - 00:35:15:00

Luna

Totally. So what was the length of that relationship and total. And like, what span in your life did it cover seven years?

00:35:15:00 - 00:35:36:18

Em

It started when I was 16 and we got married at 19. So we were married for four years. Wow. I tried to make it work for a close to a year because again, like traditional family, like not a single person in my family is divorced. I'm the first one. And that was like something I didn't want to accept.

00:35:36:20 - 00:35:42:06

Em

And then finally I found out he was talking to somebody again after like a year.

00:35:42:07 - 00:35:45:00

Luna

A new somebody. Yeah.

00:35:45:02 - 00:35:56:15

Em

And so I said, I'm done, I'm out. I'm done. It was definitely hard, but that is when my like, kinky self started to blossom.

00:35:56:15 - 00:36:07:05

Luna

Okay, that was my next question because I was like, like, you guys had been dabbling or doing kinky things, but like, I don't want to label it for you, but just not not explicitly talking about it, shall we say.

00:36:07:07 - 00:36:07:14

Em

Yeah.

00:36:07:19 - 00:36:15:21

Luna

Were you ever kinky with vagina owners and then like, tell us about your kiss explosion. And like when did you start learning more about your kinky self and what did you learn about your kinky self?

00:36:15:23 - 00:36:26:11

Em

I wouldn't say I was super kinky with vagina owners. I had a couple gobbles here and there, but I didn't really have like sex toys. I wasn't comfortable talking about it because yeah, I had it really with anybody.

00:36:26:15 - 00:36:28:20

Luna

How can we be until we have examples?

00:36:28:22 - 00:36:48:05

Em

Exactly, exactly. Once that ended. So I actually had found out about field while my ex husband and I were still together, so I had tried bringing it up to him. I made like a little account, but it was for a female for me, not for him, because I wasn't comfortable with that, especially given the cheating history. Because this is post cheating.

00:36:48:07 - 00:37:09:11

Em

But I was like, it's my turn. And so when I decided to divorce, I was like, okay, you know what? Let's change up this profile, but spice her up. It's for me now. I had my first threesome like a few months after, and it was truly an incredible experience. I couldn't have asked for a better couple to have, like, showed me the world's amazing.

00:37:09:12 - 00:37:29:20

Em

So they were around my same age. They were in their mid 20s. They had been together since like middle school, so they had a really solid relationship. And I remember telling them like, I've never done anything like this, blah blah blah and like, okay, no worries. And we talked a lot. We talked and me and her separate, me and him separate and altogether a group chat.

00:37:29:20 - 00:37:51:16

Em

Just like really forming relationships with each other. And so the first time that they met, they got this beautiful, like one bedroom and a living room, like suite. I was at work and they go, okay, come relax. And they were like, listen, if you get here and you don't want to do anything like, that's fine. We could get to know each other, but we want to make you feel as comfortable as possible.

00:37:51:18 - 00:38:05:08

Em

Okay, great. So I get there and I'm, you know, stinky from work. I told them I had to shower, I get there, they had my favorite wine there. They had brought board games just in case they didn't want to have sex.

00:38:05:10 - 00:38:06:15

Luna

Oh, wow.

00:38:06:18 - 00:38:29:06

Em

They got me a bathroom so I can relax after work. It was like, so thoughtful, very incredible. And I shower and then he draws me and his girlfriend a bath. So he let us sit in there for a while, just us to talk, get to know each other. So we were in there for like ten minutes and then, you know, we started making out and then he comes in and he like sitting, watching.

00:38:29:08 - 00:38:46:19

Em

And he's like, do you girls want to get ready and meet me in the bathroom? And I was like, okay. So it was kind of like bonding. We were putting on lingerie, like getting each other ready, like, you look good, I look good, perfect. And we just went to the bed and it was great. And there was a lot of communication.

00:38:46:19 - 00:39:01:12

Em

And I remember at one point, like he was having sex with me and he was like, oh, you could be like to his girlfriend again. Do you want me? And she's like, no, no, no, keep fucking her. Like it was just very easy going and it was a great experience. I'm very like grateful for that.

00:39:01:12 - 00:39:19:20

Luna

That's awesome. Also, I am so heartened to hear like a that you have that experience and be that those people exist because I haven't like been solid. You know, it takes effort to look. And so I just haven't been exposed lately or the attempts I have made haven't been. So I'm like, oh, great. And that was your first one.

00:39:19:22 - 00:39:20:18

Em

A first one.

00:39:20:21 - 00:39:22:22

Luna

Yeah. What a high bar.

00:39:23:00 - 00:39:31:14

Em

They're actually not together anymore. Okay. I'm still like kept relationships with both of them. We saw each other on social media. Like they're just good people, genuine people.

00:39:31:15 - 00:39:32:15

Luna

So I love that.

00:39:32:17 - 00:39:33:18

Em

That was like wow.

00:39:33:20 - 00:39:36:19

Luna

Okay. So that's like a big start to a new era.

00:39:36:21 - 00:39:49:16

Em

Yes. After everything happened, I think I just decided, like, life is too fucking short. I just had what I thought my life was going to be swept from under me. And so now I'm not going to do anything but doesn't please me.

00:39:49:18 - 00:40:00:06

Luna

Fuck yeah. Okay, so on that note, what else has been pleasing you? What else did you discover? And then like, please tell us kinky details and how you're learning about your kinky self and what you're understanding about her.

00:40:00:08 - 00:40:27:11

Em

So afterwards my friends were going to Europe. This was like six months post-divorce. My friends were going to Europe, and I was like, you know, I'm coming on a trip. I'm tagging along at one more, let's do it extended. We were there for three weeks and I met this man. He was, I mean, gorgeous, a Parisian man barely spoke English, stunning and very kinky.

00:40:27:12 - 00:40:46:20

Em

So we're like, we're at this restaurant. We went to this club and we are just like, hands on over each other, making out like, he's pushing up my skirt. Like hands are ready around my neck. I go, okay, this is going to be quite the night. We end up going back to his friend's apartment and it started in the car.

00:40:46:22 - 00:41:08:16

Em

We were in this tiny car and him and three of my other friends are squished in the backseat, and I'm laying across on top of them because we don't want to get an Uber. So lane crossed bottom half on this man, and I'm literally looking at my friends because like, we're like in this little car and this man starts to finger me in the car.

00:41:08:18 - 00:41:31:06

Em

Then I'm like, stop, stop. And my friend like, what is going on? And I was like, don't ask me like it was. I'm like, we got to get there. We got to get there. I'm like, you stop, don't stop. Put, stop. We gotta just get to this apartment. So we get there immediately. We go into the room and he just, like, throws me up on a desk, a glass base, like, there's things breaking.

00:41:31:06 - 00:41:55:00

Em

There's, like things being pushed around. He then throws me on the bed. At one point I remember being upside down, like head hanging off the bed, sucking his dick. I the next day had bruises like on my neck, on my legs, like huge ones. But it was so hot. And it's weird because, like, we didn't really talk because he didn't really speak English, but it was like he was reading my body and we had sex for like three hours.

00:41:55:02 - 00:42:16:18

Em

It was just amazing. And I can be very loud. That's kind of like also one of my kings. I really like listening to myself moan and others. I'm a big auditory person, so I was just really loud, to the point that my friends actually left the apartment and they went back to the hotel. I like Uber alone afterwards because they're like, we couldn't hear it anymore.

00:42:17:00 - 00:42:18:17

Em

We could, oh wait.

00:42:18:19 - 00:42:19:19

Luna

It was his apartment.

00:42:19:19 - 00:42:21:09

Em

Or it was his friend's apartment.

00:42:21:09 - 00:42:22:12

Luna

His friend's apartment. Oh my.

00:42:22:12 - 00:42:42:20

Em

Gosh. And we are I mean, I mean, like when I look like on there was a glass everywhere. There was broken things all over the place. It was pretty crazy. But that was like, oh, I need it. I need it to be fucked like that. And then I knew I like I couldn't really go back after that. The intensity just felt so good.

00:42:42:22 - 00:42:44:15

Em

Yeah, I loved it.

00:42:44:17 - 00:42:48:14

Luna

Did you ever see him again or was it just like a one night situation?

00:42:48:16 - 00:42:58:17

Em

So I have a friend who's from Paris and it's one of his friends, so I've seen him, like online, but I haven't been back, so I. Yeah, yeah, I met him again before I left.

00:42:58:17 - 00:43:13:18

Luna

You guys. Okay. I also love fucking friends of friends because I guess this is an assumption that I'm making as I catch myself. Like I do feel safer, though, if it's a friend of a friend, if it's someone I know, I'm like, there's a social network there. There's a little bit more built in stuff.

00:43:13:19 - 00:43:16:06

Em

Yes, I think they've known each other since they were children.

00:43:16:10 - 00:43:20:14

Luna

Okay, I was gonna say also, it sounds like you met a person in person and not on an app.

00:43:20:16 - 00:43:30:07

Em

I did did, but that's all. It was like a setup situation. Oh, so like, he was like, oh, my friends come in, he's hot.

00:43:30:09 - 00:43:34:06

Luna

Friends set me up with hot, nice kinky friends. Yeah. Fuck yeah.

00:43:34:09 - 00:43:45:03

Em

Clearly I'm open to that. I've had that situation happen before where they're like, hey, one of my friends, you know, they're looking for you guys. And I go, please hook us up. Yeah, let's do it.

00:43:45:05 - 00:43:53:01

Luna

Okay, so what else have you learned about your kinky self? And like, are there more vagina lovers or. Like what? Where do you want to take it next? What else do we need to know?

00:43:53:03 - 00:44:19:20

Em

Coming home from Europe, I decided I'm gonna move in with my best friends from high school. Okay, so we got a house in our downtown area, and this house was literally like a fucking brothel because we were all single. It was a gorgeous, like, two story, four bedroom, had a hot tub out back and walking distance from the bar so people would just like, we would just get fucked up, come back and we would share.

00:44:19:20 - 00:44:26:01

Em

I mean, after I would hook up with a guy the next week, my roommate would like, we didn't care. We were like, let's just have fucking fun.

00:44:26:04 - 00:44:27:09

Luna

Sharing is caring.

00:44:27:09 - 00:44:38:18

Em

Sharing is caring. Yeah. And I mean, when I say I had a lot of sex in that house, I had a lot of sex in that house. It was wonderful.

00:44:38:20 - 00:44:43:15

Luna

Could you guys hear each other or was it like, could was that part of the Oasis thing okay.

00:44:43:17 - 00:44:53:18

Em

Yeah. Well, so I wouldn't hear them much, but they were almost like if I was having someone over, I'd let them know, because a lot of times they would leave.

00:44:53:20 - 00:44:56:22

Luna

So that really was like a brothel. You could literally they could hear stuff.

00:44:57:00 - 00:45:13:19

Em

Yes. Oh, yeah. Like paper thin walls, like it's insane. It was fun. I mean, I had sex that hot tub with my son was having sex coming in hot tub, and I was having sex coming in the hot tub, like. Like it was just, like a very empowering thing because we were all like, get it? Like, no judgment.

00:45:13:19 - 00:45:15:11

Em

You do. You go, wow.

00:45:15:11 - 00:45:24:08

Luna

Okay, but wait, I want to hear details about that. Because like in hot tubs, I've had difficult experiences with hardness, but it sounds like you've had a lot of successful water sex.

00:45:24:10 - 00:45:33:01

Em

I know, and you know what? It's funny though, because, like, it's not even my favorite. Because you would think like, oh, like, you know, water slippery. It's not.

00:45:33:01 - 00:45:34:06

Luna

No. It can feel icky.

00:45:34:12 - 00:45:54:19

Em

Yes. Very sticky. So it's not my favorite. It didn't last long in there. We definitely took it inside. Yeah. Yeah. And it's funny, that day in particular, that person I had sex with. Oh, this is actually a two parter. Oh. So I used to have this friend. We see good friends since like, the sixth grade. Never anything sexual or anything like that.

00:45:54:19 - 00:46:17:00

Em

But I became single and as an adult, somehow we like, you know, mingled mesh back together. And he lived in a different part of Florida than I did. And he would drive up like 3 or 4 hours to see me just so we can have sex. Do we get hotel rooms? He was like, all this stuff. So I was throwing a party because it was our party house, and he drove up to see me for the weekend.

00:46:17:02 - 00:46:32:10

Em

So we had sex the day before, and then we were at a party and a couple of new faces arrived at the party that I hadn't met before. So we were mingling and he was like, hey, I'm going to go up to the room. But do your thing. Like, whatever, I'm tired. I'm gonna go to bed. I'm like, okay, no problem.

00:46:32:12 - 00:46:51:04

Em

So I forgot about that. I was, oh my God, I'm in the hot tub with this other man. We're hooking up. We go inside, we take it inside. We had sex on the couch and he slap me in the face. And I had never had anyone do that. Actually, at first I was kind of like, well, I don't know you.

00:46:51:04 - 00:47:24:09

Em

I just met you. Like, that was kind of uncalled for. But then something was like, do it again. Like it like unlocked something. I definitely wish you would have like asked me first. Because I wasn't ready for it but that unlocked okay. Because I really love being fat. I really really love it. So after we finished having sex, I sent him on his way and I went upstairs and I forgot that my friend was up there and he was naked in my bed.

00:47:24:11 - 00:47:26:04

Em

I was like, okay.

00:47:26:06 - 00:47:30:23

Luna

I see that. I was like, thank goodness you had sex on the couch and didn't actually, do you know what I did.

00:47:31:04 - 00:47:55:10

Em

Go into him. Yeah, yeah. Well, so I snuck into the bed because I don't want to wake him. So but in like the early hours of the morning, he is like, kind of like nudging me, touching me, like trying to touch me. And so we start making out, and then I stop. I pull him off and I go, I to be honest with you, I actually ended up having sex with that guy downstairs a few hours ago.

00:47:55:12 - 00:48:19:06

Em

And he was like, it's fine. Like when I go back to my city, I do my thing. That's okay. You just have to be punished for it now. And I was like, okay. And I was up against like my bed was against the wall. So my head was up against the corner and he, like, stood up on my bed and fucked.

00:48:19:06 - 00:48:36:11

Em

My face came. And then he was like, all right, I'm going to go now. Okay? That's what you got. Like, you're not coming back. I'm gonna make it hot for you. But that's your punishment. And I was like, oh my God, this was it was so hot. It was, it.

00:48:36:13 - 00:48:46:04

Luna

Was that the first time you had had like dynamic play together or like it sounds like you had an existing relation. Yeah. Like, was that your first time like being punished in an explicit way by a partner?

00:48:46:06 - 00:49:03:07

Em

I would say so, yeah. Wow. Yes. Except for, you know, some things that I did with my husband that I would say he like took advantage a little bit, like in a good way. Like he tied me up and stuff like that with a new partner. Yeah. That was definitely the first time and I, I like I like being told what to do.

00:49:03:12 - 00:49:04:10

Em

Okay.

00:49:04:12 - 00:49:11:18

Luna

So what did those things lead to? Like the end. Did you end up sucking that friend again that had driven down or like, did you was that your only experience?

00:49:11:23 - 00:49:26:22

Em

Yeah, I had fucked him again. What's funny is he just moved into my city last week and so I've been trying to meet up with him. I mean, I was really sending him pictures and he was like, oh, I see you and you see you. So that. Stay tuned. Yeah, yeah.

00:49:27:01 - 00:49:33:03

Luna

Please let us know. Updates as they come and come and come and

00:49:33:05 - 00:49:56:00

Em

But yeah, that was great. So I had a lot of talk to my house, and then I met my ex-girlfriend. So she was best friends with my best friend and roommate. And so she had just broken up with her long term girlfriend and we both were, like, not interested in a relationship. So we started hooking up, and we just started fucking.

00:49:56:02 - 00:50:16:15

Em

We would have sex for like three, four hours, like all through the night. I would come like 3 or 4 times. She was the first person to ever make me squirt, which I didn't know that was going to happen. And it was great. And we did, obviously, and the dating for like two and a half years, but we had a lot of like power dynamics.

00:50:16:17 - 00:50:41:09

Em

She was more masculine presenting in general, but in the bedroom, total switches I talk really. Oh yeah. Like she would fuck me with the strap on and then like after I'd come, like I take it off to my turn. Oh, and, yeah, it was great. A lot of choking, slapping like that rough aggression on both of our parts, which was really hot.

00:50:41:11 - 00:50:48:14

Luna

So switch was like, you're taking turns in session, or would it be like days and sessions apart? Like, how would you just feel into the flow of it?

00:50:48:16 - 00:51:03:02

Em

Usually we would take turns in session. We would both top. There were days we would say like, okay, until today. And you know, we would, you know, like that. But for the most part it was pretty even, which I really liked.

00:51:03:04 - 00:51:15:17

Luna

Had you use a strap before that relationship, I had not. Okay. What was it like for you? Like I haven't used one very much. Like, do you have any tips or favorites or insights or anything like that? Have you ever pinched yourself with one?

00:51:15:19 - 00:51:40:23

Em

So we had it's like an underwear that has like the little hole. So it wasn't actually like anything to kind of clip on to it, which was nice. The first time I went on, I felt so powerful and sexy and like, there's just something about it. I really, really like that. There's just something about like, you know, penis owners really do have like, some kind of like that big dick energy.

00:51:41:00 - 00:52:00:16

Em

I swear, when I put that strap on, I just feel like I'm in charge. Yeah. Like, I enjoy being sensual and slow and, like, moving my hips. And we didn't use the strap all the time. Like, we would just manually use a dildo. But there's something about being attached to you that, like, you can move your hips and like, it just feels great.

00:52:00:18 - 00:52:07:18

Luna

That's awesome. Oh my gosh. Okay, what else did you learn about yourself in that relationship or over the course of that relationship?

00:52:07:19 - 00:52:26:13

Em

It's funny because this was another one that we didn't talk too much about things, something I really wanted to try that we never ended up trying. Like I was super interested in having like a double sided dildo. And trying to use that she express like yeah that'd be cool. And we just, we never got to it unfortunately.

00:52:26:16 - 00:52:28:08

Luna

You still haven't at all.

00:52:28:10 - 00:52:28:23

Em

No.

00:52:29:03 - 00:52:33:17

Luna

Okay. You and I will both use them. We'll reconvene and talk about it.

00:52:33:19 - 00:52:59:06

Em

Yeah. Yes please. Especially like because of our dynamic that it was like we both wanted to fucking. It's like being on the same device, like, it's. Yeah. Yeah, I it really intrigued me. So that was something I wanted to try, but something I had never done that she introduced me to was fisting. Not on me. We did try it on me once.

00:52:59:06 - 00:53:16:14

Em

I just, like, wasn't my thing. But she really enjoyed it. And I loved doing it. Like it's. You get to know your partner's vagina, like, so. Well, yeah. I don't know. It was like, I loved it, I love it.

00:53:16:19 - 00:53:38:17

Luna

Well, also. Okay, so I've only read books about it and talked to people about it, but I also understand that it's like, yes, the vagina and or asshole depending on what we're playing with. True. But it's also like watching the partner's micro movements, like the expressed like it's like getting like syncing up with the animal body. Can you speak to that a little bit about like what you've learned or like, what is it like to have your hand inside that one?

00:53:38:19 - 00:53:59:13

Em

Okay, so a 1,000% what you said like it's watching them. I will always be watching her because it's like one little moment. It's like, right when you get past the knuckles like a certain area. Yeah, it hurts. And you almost have to do it quick, but not too quick. It's like the perfect kind of movement. And, you know, after a while, like, I learned exactly what I needed to do.

00:53:59:19 - 00:54:16:21

Em

But, you know, it's all about watching your partner and their breath and taking it at their pace. But once it's and it's a lot of times I wouldn't even do like, an in and out motion. It's like like a movement of the wrist. Oh, God. It feels really good. I'm in like that having. Yeah. Okay.

00:54:17:01 - 00:54:18:21

Luna

Yeah.

00:54:18:23 - 00:54:27:16

Em

Having my hands in there. Like especially like when they're coming. Like you feel everything tightening, contracting. It was really nice. I really enjoyed.

00:54:27:18 - 00:54:28:04

Luna

That.

00:54:28:05 - 00:54:46:00

Em

So hard. Yeah. And then it's just as important to watch when you're taking out the hands. Yeah. Because again it's it's painful past a certain spot I would always just tell her like do it on an exhale. And I would kind of do it in one swift motion. But we did it like often almost every time.

00:54:46:06 - 00:54:48:19

Luna

That's so cool.

00:54:48:21 - 00:54:55:06

Em

Yeah, I'd love to try it with somebody else, but I, you know, that's something like, hey, can I just do like I gotta yeah, you gotta work. Oh, I'm not.

00:54:55:06 - 00:55:06:11

Luna

Sure you'll find, especially if you're on a field, you will definitely find people that are like, yeah, just curious. Speaking of curiosities, have you explored anal stuff at all, either on yourself or partners?

00:55:06:13 - 00:55:13:00

Em

So that's what I'm starting to explore now. I had, like, a frickin traumatic experience.

00:55:13:01 - 00:55:14:03

Luna

Oh, no. I'm sorry.

00:55:14:06 - 00:55:15:18

Em

It was an accident. It wasn't like.

00:55:15:23 - 00:55:18:14

Luna

You know, I've had those two still traumatic.

00:55:18:15 - 00:55:42:06

Em

Yeah, it was a bad husband. And we were kind of drunk and we were playing really rough, and he was, like, pulling his dick all the way out and, like, slamming it into my pussy, and, oh, he slammed it into my ass on accident. And when I say, like I blacked out a little bit, I started crying. I thought I was gonna throw up and run to the bathroom and like, I was dry heaving.

00:55:42:10 - 00:55:50:17

Em

It was so bad. So I had, like a little tear. Yes. I couldn't go to the bathroom for like 4 or 5 days. I was bleeding. It was so bad.

00:55:50:23 - 00:55:54:20

Luna

Oh, fuck. I'm so sorry that happened. That's really trauma.

00:55:54:21 - 00:56:12:04

Em

Yeah, it was bad, so I was always afraid. But now with one of the dorms he was talking about, you know, trying it. And I was like, I do feel comfortable with you. And I would be open to trying it. You just have to take it really slow. So I have one friend right now, she's like when I best friend.

00:56:12:06 - 00:56:29:22

Em

And she is very sexually open as well. So she and I go to the sex shop like once a week just to get you things. Trying things out makes me so happy because we were friends in high school, but we never talked about those things. So now it's like, oh my God, you're my you're my person. So I got a little bit plug.

00:56:30:00 - 00:56:51:11

Em

I've been using it and I just bought like a bigger one and I've been using it, I actually like, I have this like a kind of skinny, smaller dildo. And I've been using that on myself to like. Yeah, prep and practice lots of lube. But I am excited. I think on Wednesday I'm going to like fully try it with this new partner.

00:56:51:13 - 00:56:54:14

Luna

Oh, that's so exciting. Okay.

00:56:54:16 - 00:56:58:00

Em

Yeah, I'm really excited. I'm nervous, but I'm excited.

00:56:58:03 - 00:56:58:22

Luna

Fuck yeah.

00:56:59:01 - 00:57:15:15

Em

Fuck yeah. That's what it's one of my things and I know it's one of yours to BDP and it's always been one of my fantasies I use. I watch a lot of porn of it, but I was like, yeah, I'm never going to do it because I don't really like anal. So I'm excited to like, get ready with that.

00:57:15:15 - 00:57:23:05

Em

And, you know, I hate myself when I masturbate now. Like, I'm trying to, like, let it happen so that that fantasy can come true.

00:57:23:07 - 00:57:37:14

Luna

I think that's great. I think getting to know our own assholes is important. And I know that, like when I started playing with my own self more both with my fingers and with toys, I gained a lot of confidence. And then also just having a partner that was really into it and really accepting made a huge difference for me.

00:57:37:14 - 00:57:58:17

Luna

And I still have not had my DP with two live cocks, but that I have a feeling is in my this year future because I'm prioritizing my bucket list items and I'm like, oh, I could just like try. Yeah, I've always been very good. Like for my whole life I've been pretty opportunistic. And this year I'm like, well, I could be like opportunistic, but also strategic.

00:57:58:20 - 00:58:11:12

Luna

Like, I could marry those two things together and, okay, what other details do we need to know about you or your kinky self and or what else are you exploring, depending on where we need to go from here?

00:58:11:13 - 00:58:33:07

Em

Details on myself. I love talking like, intense, like, you know, on the verge of, like, blackout and then like, it's like that release right after it is like straight ecstasy in your body for me, I love it. I actually, like, recently started choking myself when I masturbate. Not with any items, just my hand. And I love it. It's fucking awesome.

00:58:33:12 - 00:58:35:00

Em

I don't know why I haven't been doing that before.

00:58:35:00 - 00:58:39:00

Luna

How hard do you do it? Or is it just like the pressure that you're feeling? Like how much do.

00:58:39:01 - 00:58:48:02

Em

I do it pretty hard. Okay? I mean, not like crush me when I am, but I use the sides and I let myself kind of feel a little lightheaded, and it's nice.

00:58:48:07 - 00:58:58:04

Luna

Wait, I want another detail about that. You're doing that a bit. And then are you touching yourself with your hand or with a toy, like, because it seems like a lot of coordination together. Okay, okay.

00:58:58:09 - 00:59:11:11

Em

Yeah, sure. It's like a recent, recent thing, in the last month and I think I was in the shower or in the tub to see what happens. And I just did it, and I was like, ooh, ooh, I'm going to do that more. Okay. Yeah. Cool.

00:59:11:11 - 00:59:12:15

Luna

Full control.

00:59:12:17 - 00:59:37:01

Em

Beautiful. Yeah. Again, like I said, I like being slapped. I kind of like that in combination, like choking. And then the release of slap. Yeah, it's like sensations. I also enjoy doing that to people a lot. I used to do that to my ex-girlfriend. I do that with the couple I play with. I like it a lot. Like I kind of said earlier and like fluent, like I like calm.

00:59:37:03 - 00:59:51:03

Em

I do like to swallow it, but I kind of prefer it, like on my face and like, totally. I really like it. I like spit like on my face again. Like in my mouth is fine by same. It's just like being on me. Yeah, I, I really like it.

00:59:51:07 - 00:59:58:12

Luna

Do you have any of those sheets, like, made for messes like you do, or is it just, like, contained on your body? Yeah. Like how messy you getting? How much do you want to get?

00:59:58:14 - 01:00:17:06

Em

I have, like, a liner underneath my feet, but no. And I really should though, because lately I have been squirting more and more because, like, I've kind of been learning to initiate it. It used to just happen. And now I'm like, okay, if I want it to happen, like, I can make up totally.

01:00:17:06 - 01:00:26:02

Luna

Yeah, yeah, I figured out how to masturbate myself and do it if I really want to. Like I am often too lazy and I like want to leave it for, you know, I don't want to do the same thing every day, but like, yeah.

01:00:26:04 - 01:00:46:07

Em

Yes. Nice little kitchen. Yeah. Well, so it's funny because only a couple partners have been able to do it. My ex-girlfriend did it and like two others. But so the couple that I play with now, the guy can, he can make me do it like three times ten minutes. Okay. And first of all, I'm like, I don't even know if that's that much fluid in my body.

01:00:46:09 - 01:00:47:06

Luna

You gotta stay hydrated.

01:00:47:06 - 01:00:52:20

Em

Then we film a lot. Us three, she'll be filming and like versa.

01:00:52:22 - 01:00:55:10

Luna

That's the best part about group sex.

01:00:55:12 - 01:01:12:15

Em

It's amazing. And they love it. So I love it. And they just sent me some videos. There is one I literally like squirted everywhere. I mean at the end we like took the bed. She talked to, we talked to an actress. I'm like, I'm so sorry. It's like no time, like a lot of clean up.

01:01:12:15 - 01:01:13:13

Luna

So yeah.

01:01:13:15 - 01:01:21:19

Em

I at least could be putting some things down now that I know that. But it's really hot. I love it, I love it, and I kind of like laying in it after.

01:01:21:21 - 01:01:22:04

Luna

Yeah.

01:01:22:04 - 01:01:45:20

Em

We're so on the topic of like filming. I started like maybe six months ago filming myself when I masturbate and I have this big mirror, like I said earlier and like in my room. So I will set up the camera and I will just like habit sitting. And I stare at myself because the whole eye contact thing and I have, suction cup dildos.

01:01:45:20 - 01:02:08:06

Em

I'll put it on the mirror and I'll use my vibrator and like, it's almost like a hold it on movie. And afterwards I love masturbating to it. Oh, amazing. Because it's yourself. So your breath syncs up because that's how you breathe. It's you. And it's like, I don't know what what made me want to do it. I think I was just, like, drunk in my room alone one night.

01:02:08:08 - 01:02:19:07

Em

And now, like, I do it all the time and I, I love it. It's a really hot. Yeah, I recommend it. It gives you self-confidence. You're like, look at that sexy bed. Yeah.

01:02:19:09 - 01:02:25:11

Luna

Yeah. I'm like, trying to think about how to reconfigure my whole house and do that. Like. Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh.

01:02:25:13 - 01:02:36:22

Em

Yeah. Even sometimes when I'm just in the shower, I'll set it up and I'll, you know, use toys and. Yeah, front camera and stare at myself and, Yeah. Amazing. It's fun. It's fun. Yeah.

01:02:37:00 - 01:02:46:20

Luna

Okay. What else have you been exploring or what else do you want to explore? Like, I know that we talked about more Sims. I know that there's some kinky stuff in there to talk about. Take us where you will.

01:02:46:22 - 01:03:07:12

Em

I've always really just been into play. And when I was, like, exploring porn, like, not super, super young, but maybe when I was like in high school, I would kind of do a little bit more aggressive things. I actually used to watch these one videos. I think it's like Ultimate Surrender videos. Have you ever seen that? So they're in like a ring.

01:03:07:17 - 01:03:26:07

Em

Like a boxing ring almost. And it's women in like bikinis with these little like straps. And they wrestle. They wrestle and different things are different points. If you take off articles of clothing, if you get like mouth on a pussy, if you're fingering like different things. So it's like they're fighting, but like it's like the girls fingers, man.

01:03:26:07 - 01:03:53:11

Em

Because, I mean, that's not supposed to happen, but it feels good. So it's like that dynamic I really like and the struggle I really like, and that kind of like got my mind thinking about, like that kinky kind of situation is like being kind of held against my will. But I haven't explored that anyone because I want to feel like 100% comfortable, safe with that partner to be able to, like, really let go because that's a scary situation.

01:03:53:13 - 01:03:58:17

Em

But I'm looking forward to meeting that person cause I think that'll be fun. I've been thinking about it for many years.

01:03:58:22 - 01:04:11:06

Luna

Fuck yeah. It's almost like you've been gathering all the skills you need. You know, discovering your interests, building the communication abilities, building the safety conversations. Now. Yeah. Just inviting the right divine timing. Oh.

01:04:11:08 - 01:04:33:08

Em

Yes. And I mentioned briefly before there's somebody that I met who wants me to be like a dominatrix. Yeah. And or, you know, just more like a dom, I guess. And I told them in the beginning, like, I straight up don't have a lot of experience in that I had, like, kind of that power dynamic with an ex-girlfriend, but not with men.

01:04:33:10 - 01:04:52:01

Em

I'm very open to it. But if you want something more experienced, I get it. It was like, no, I kind of like the idea of being your experiment and I want to explore together. And. Yeah, it's been really great. It's all virtual right now because he lives in another country, but we're planning on seeing each other. He's going to be moving to Florida in July.

01:04:52:02 - 01:04:54:06

Em

Okay. So we're planning on seeing each other.

01:04:54:08 - 01:04:56:11

Luna

That's a great start to an experiment.

01:04:56:13 - 01:05:25:05

Em

Yeah, yeah. And I really enjoyed it. Like with my ex I really enjoyed that power. Like powerful. And like I said, when I wear a strap, like I feel in charge and I like that I am very smart. I love being submissive, I love being dominated. Yeah, but having the chance to occasionally be the one dominating is very sexy and intriguing to me, so I'm excited to like, explore that more that it's amazing.

01:05:25:05 - 01:05:32:06

Luna

I love that so much. Any other like explorations, hopes for the future? Like specific acts that you're looking forward to?

01:05:32:08 - 01:05:51:11

Em

I really just kind of want to get into the community more. I have more confidence now, so I really want to go to like local dungeons, sex clubs, like sex parties, meet people in the community because I don't really have that. I have that one friend that I'm comfortable with, but she's in a monogamous relationship, so I don't want to go alone.

01:05:51:15 - 01:06:12:05

Em

I want to meet, you know, people in my area and like, explore that because I do want to have I want to go to an orgy, like, I want to have, like multiple penises around me and pussy in my face, like I want all that. So I'm excited to kind of like dive into that more now that I have this confidence and I think a little experience.

01:06:12:05 - 01:06:13:18

Em

So it's exciting.

01:06:13:19 - 01:06:27:01

Luna

I love that I feel like I'm in my own, the same version of that at this point in my life. Oh, I love it. Okay, so more broadly speaking, what are your hopes for your sexual self going forward?

01:06:27:03 - 01:06:45:14

Em

My hopes are that I stay this way. I feel like in the past when I get partnered, I kind of like suppress that side of me and I just like, okay, we'll have sex. Maybe it's a little kinky sex, but I always been afraid to bring up like, hey, let's go to this place, let's try this. How about we bring another partner in?

01:06:45:14 - 01:07:11:13

Em

Like so? I'm hoping, not even hoping I know I will stay true to who I am now because I'm really enjoying it. I'm really enjoying coming into my own sexually. So I just hope that I get to continue exploring and I find a partner eventually. I'm not even looking for a partner right now, but eventually I find a partner that is also excited to explore because life is fucking short and let's have sex.

01:07:11:13 - 01:07:12:13

Em

Why not?

01:07:12:15 - 01:07:23:06

Luna

Fuck yes. Like yes, yes yes. Any other stories, preferences or sexual thoughts that you want to share with us on Wednesday?

01:07:23:06 - 01:07:44:08

Em

Like I, we've talked about like it's a new dorm I haven't met and we've just been talking online about life. Okay? And he wants to fuck me all night. He wants to bring a Sharpie and tally the number of times we have sex on my back. Which I'm like, that's really fucking hot. This is the person I'm going to try anal play with.

01:07:44:14 - 01:08:06:12

Em

So let's use the dodo to DP me as well. Just a lot of like fun things that I've never done and some things that he hasn't done. Like I'm very excited. There's also a hot tub at this place for us. Oh, cool. So yeah, there's a big screen TV above the hot tub, and he was like, well, maybe I'll try to get some porn on there.

01:08:06:14 - 01:08:10:20

Em

Done. I actually haven't done that. I haven't fucked while watching porn with a partner.

01:08:10:20 - 01:08:16:20

Luna

So how are you going to keep track for the tally marks? Like what counts as sex for that? Did you guys talk about that?

01:08:16:22 - 01:08:28:16

Em

I don't know, we didn't really talk about it. I don't know if it's like when he finishes. That's the session. Maybe is what I'm assuming. Because if it's me, like, I can come on. So like, well, I feel like he's going to want to keep tracking me tallies.

01:08:28:17 - 01:08:31:16

Luna

No. And we need both of you. Or maybe it's just insertion.

01:08:31:19 - 01:08:40:14

Em

I had two sessions like you stepped into my back. And him. Yeah. And tally the amount of times we come that would actually be great.

01:08:40:15 - 01:08:46:05

Luna

That's really fun. Oh, I love that. But also edging is good too, so it's like hard.

01:08:46:07 - 01:08:53:17

Em

Yes. And we talked we talked about that too. Like he wants to just like tie me up and like tease me until I'm begging and.

01:08:53:19 - 01:09:00:02

Luna

I hope he does. Oh my gosh that's so exciting. May your Wednesday be wonderful. What I'm going.

01:09:00:03 - 01:09:03:20

Em

To. Literal hump day. Yeah.

01:09:03:20 - 01:09:15:22

Luna

Literal hump day. Okay, so if you could go back in time and give younger you your first sex talk or a piece of sex advice like what age or ages would you pick and what would you say?

01:09:16:00 - 01:09:40:08

Em

So I think I go in two different areas. I probably go back to like middle school when I started having sex or started having those sexual thoughts. Yeah. And just tell myself, like it's normal to explore these things. It's normal to be into women as well. Like there's a lot of internalized homophobia. So it's, you know, don't worry about what everyone else says.

01:09:40:08 - 01:09:57:21

Em

Do what feels good to you and you're not a bad person for it, and don't let anyone make you feel bad for it. And then I probably also go to like 18 and 19 when I was a few years and with my ex-husband. We were defeating at the time, but I would definitely tell myself like, communicate? Yeah, communicate.

01:09:57:21 - 01:10:15:20

Em

If you like it, tell him if you want to try something, do it. Like don't be afraid. What is there to lose? You know, communication is hot and I've learned I love it, I love I'm a huge pleaser. I want to know what feels good to my partner. Don't let me eat you out. And you're like, oh yeah, that's good.

01:10:15:20 - 01:10:20:08

Em

I'm like, nope. Tell me a little to the left. Little to the right. Yeah. Exactly what you want to talk to me?

01:10:20:08 - 01:10:26:17

Luna

I want if it's good. Tell me why it's good. Tell me all the details. Tell me what I'm doing. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:10:26:19 - 01:10:30:12

Em

Big time. Big. So just communication. Communication? Yeah.

01:10:30:14 - 01:10:34:20

Luna

Fuck, yeah. Beautiful. Do you have a sex question you want to ask me?

01:10:34:22 - 01:10:45:03

Em

I do. Okay. Where is your favorite place to have? Come on, y'all in you in your mouth, in your ass and your pussy on you. Where's your favorite place?

01:10:45:05 - 01:11:05:08

Luna

Oh, man. Okay, I have multiple answers. Like my two. Like, I love it when someone comes in my ass. If it can be come in my ass and dribbling out, that's great because I also really like it on my body. But I fucking love someone coming on my tits because it means I get to watch the whole thing happen.

01:11:05:10 - 01:11:18:12

Luna

So usually if I'm with a partner, they're like, where do you want me to come? I'll be like, on be on, my boobs on. But I love it. They also get a little bit on my face, but I want to be able to keep my eyes open and watch it. Unless the third answer is wherever my Dom wants.

01:11:18:16 - 01:11:33:01

Luna

You know, like, if I'm if I'm in a dynamic with someone. I used to love it when my former master would tell me, like where he was going to come on me, and then sometimes he would trick me just for like, he'd be like, I'm going to come here and then be like, just kidding, you know? And so it would, it would be so, so great.

01:11:33:02 - 01:11:49:15

Luna

Like dopamine fun thing. But I mean, obviously if it's going to be in my face, I want to close my eyes, like, but I mean, I really like it everywhere. Assuming that it's pregnancy safe, my partner has a vasectomy for fluid bonded. But like, I think that's also why tits are so great because I'm like, win win for everyone.

01:11:49:17 - 01:11:59:15

Luna

Bellies good to. I like tits the best. Like if I had to pick one or the other. I really like being able. I love watching like I love watching it come out.

01:11:59:17 - 01:12:04:17

Em

Oh me too. That's like when I'm messaging people, I'm like, no, send me a video of you coming. Yes.

01:12:04:18 - 01:12:09:08

Luna

Yeah. Send that tribute. Yeah, yeah. Amazing. What's your what's your answer for the same question.

01:12:09:10 - 01:12:15:16

Em

I would say my face. Not really my eyes, but like almost like it's got to go in my mouth, but it's.

01:12:15:16 - 01:12:17:01

Luna

Just like around.

01:12:17:03 - 01:12:24:14

Em

Here and kind of on my neck a little bit. I love that I like the belly. I like when it comes out and it's like a little bit on the top of your clit, like.

01:12:24:15 - 01:12:24:22

Luna

Oh.

01:12:24:23 - 01:12:27:02

Em

That's how I see that's true. Yeah.

01:12:27:04 - 01:12:38:20

Luna

I don't like it like in my belly button so much because I have a pretty deep belly button. I really have to like, dig it out. And like, I do like it face and neck and like I there definitely have been like times at the grocery store where I'm like, oh, oh I.

01:12:38:21 - 01:12:46:18

Em

Oh I yeah, yeah, I've had a little dry. Then it's morning after this last Saturday and I had a little dry. I was like, oh okay. Yeah.

01:12:46:20 - 01:13:01:09

Luna

Yeah. I'm definitely not as turned on by like people coming in a bowl and then licking it up or something like I'm like, no, I want to touch it while it's hot. Like I want, you know. Yeah. Like if that's their kink, if that's like if it's whatever, like, but I'm like, give it to me. Like I want to have it.

01:13:01:09 - 01:13:03:21

Em

Yeah. That's awesome. Read.

01:13:03:23 - 01:13:08:09

Luna

Oh my God, Emma, thank you so much for being a guest on Sex Stories.

01:13:08:11 - 01:13:12:18

Em

Thank you. I really like I'm so happy to be here.