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Luna

Our guest today is a non-monogamous, bisexual, pansexual, overtly sexual kinky switch who is in an open relationship with the internet. She is into impact play, giving and receiving cream pies, all kinds of legal, consensual experiences that affirm the full range of human sexuality. And speaking from personal experience makes an excellent guide. A talented singer songwriter with a very sexy voice you are about to hear.

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Luna

Since 2018, she has been a legal brothel courtesan at Sheri's Ranch and a porn actress who is repped by Atma. If you want to hire her. Welcome. Jupiter. Jetson.

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Jupiter

Hello.

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Luna

I am so excited to have you here. This has been a long time coming. Could you start off by telling us if you had to rate yourself on a sexual shaming meter today, with ten being so full of shame and one being not really shame me at all? Where do you feel today, right now? And why did you pick that number?

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Jupiter

Oh, like a negative nine.

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Luna

Okay. Was it always like that or did you go on a roller coaster to get there?

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Jupiter

Oh no. I had to, like, I, I had to visit the theme park. I had to like going all the way and going all the right weight on all the lines. All of it. I had to get sick off a few corndogs.

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Luna

That you have. Okay. But like tangibly speaking, do you feel comfy saying if there were times where you felt more shame me? Or like, what kind of helped you get to a negative nine?

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Jupiter

Oh, I mean, honestly, growing up with a lot of sexual shame is how I had the motivation to get to a negative nine, because I definitely, at least for the important formative years of childhood, I definitely grew up in a very repressive sex is bad sexual exploration, you know, nontraditional gender identity. All of that is bad, weird and gross and stay away from it.

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Jupiter

So I had to spread my slutty wings.

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Luna

Do you feel comfy saying, like, what region of where you were originated from?

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Jupiter

Oh, yeah. Everybody who follows me, if you do. I'm from Cleveland.

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Luna

Okay, so growing up, you weren't a negative nine. You were more of a like, where do you feel like you hovered in your formative ish years?

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Jupiter

I would say up until the age of about, I'd say 11 or 12. I was really on, like, the sex must be terrible and bad and evil. And then I started having questions about other things, had been told and taught and conditioned to not approve of. And so I started questioning other aspects of it. And yeah, it's I started realizing that there might not be anything wrong with sexuality from I'd say probably in general, a fairly young age, from what I've come to find out.

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Luna

And you've confirmed it through, like, did you get the negative numbers because you helped so many other people smash their shame? Is that what earns negative numbers? Do I have negative numbers, I wonder?

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Jupiter

I love negative numbers. You definitely. You might have more negative numbers than.

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Luna

I, I don't know, I feel like sometimes I think this.

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Jupiter

Is like Celsius though. Like the further you get away from zero, the more extreme it becomes.

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Luna

True. Good point. Can you tell us in general, if you could articulate what is sex to you?

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Jupiter

Oh, I mean, sex is I mean, at the end of the day it's an exchange of energy and it's a very specific energy. I mean, I don't buy into the idea that sex is P and V, or is any one particular act.

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Luna

Only that like because it it like is, is that it's in laws. Okay okay. No no no I mean just a square in a rectangle situation.

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Jupiter

I'm, I'm a very sexual being, but it's still more than a handshake. Yeah. You know. Yeah, but no, I, I'm just saying it's not limited to that. I think what is sex is any exchange of intimacy that. Yeah that's a great question like well and.

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Luna

For you, do.

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Jupiter

You feel like you had sex? I guess it's kind of like the do you feel like you had the sex? Because if the answer is.

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Luna

Yes, then yeah, you have. That's a great answer. Okay. But how about in a professional context. Because for you, it becomes then more important to define acts of sex right. For work.

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Jupiter

Well, yeah. But all of the sex acts that I offer for work are all sex. God, why? It's oral sex. You know, manual sex.

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Luna

No. What's I call that.

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Jupiter

Mutual masturbation or, you know, I or one way might confuse so many people saying digital sex that they thought it was like an internet thing. And I'm like.

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Luna

No, you're like the digital. Yeah.

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Jupiter

You know, like those digits.

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Luna

Could you articulate how important or like, how is sex important in your life? Like how important is sex in your life and how is sex important in your life.

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Jupiter

I mean I obviously there is the importance of it in being my means of supporting myself. I mean sex and sexuality are what pays my mortgage. But I would say that sex was also very responsible because you have those hormonal urges and all of that, that it was very much so a driving factor in me accepting all of the parts of myself from a much younger age than I probably would have.

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Jupiter

And it led me on a lot more adventures.

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Luna

So I tell you, it's like my.

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Jupiter

Adventure time, you know?

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Luna

And then can you tell us, how are you making the world of sex? You're more loving place.

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Jupiter

I mean, like anything else, you do it one person at a time. I very much so feel like I was put here to be a bit of a sexual sherpa. You know.

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Luna

I was called a sexual sherpa by one of my lovers. My pandemic lover. We never kissed. It was weird. But what does that mean to you? Or, like, how do you understand that?

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Jupiter

You know, I, I feel like, you know, I'm not unique in having had a fairly repressed attitude towards sexual in the house I grew up in, and, I mean, society as a whole is really repressed. So I everybody carries a lot of shame. Not everybody, but a lot of people carry a lot of shame. And I really like kind of, you know, you know, that you can climb the mountain.

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Jupiter

Let me guide you up that mountain and affirm the entire step of the way that your footing is. Sure.

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Luna

And if your pack gets too heavy of your shame pack gets too heavy, you can help lift the load. Yeah.

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Jupiter

And up to a certain. Well, I mean, I feel like it's really powerful to be able to. I think of myself as a sexy senator. You know, I get I.

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Luna

Just learned about those from my best friend after years of that because I was like once a senator. Yeah, yeah. Well, it doesn't destroy you because senators get like, destroyed or something, but it's just like, no adds to my sexual power. I love that, and.

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Jupiter

I sometimes feel like, you know, it's given me the opportunity to see the things that nobody will share with anybody else. Like, people don't admit their kinks, but when they're coming here and they're paying for it, that's what they're coming here for. And I get the unique perspective of being able to reassure people that actually what you think is the most outrageous, crazy, ridiculous thing that you could ever want.

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Jupiter

It's so gross and you can't bring yourself to ask for it. Odds are I'm doing it a few times a week because a lot of people are into that, and it's way more normal than you would ever imagine.

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Luna

Do you have any, like, specific examples that come to mind?

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Jupiter

Oh, like food guys for guys always think that they're like, the whole is scandalous. Like it's so it's it's just another erogenous zone.

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Luna

Because they are shocked, right? Like so, so shy. Food people are at the top of my bucket list. For months I've been like, I want to go on a date with a white tablecloth and play footsie underneath it, and no one has come forward, no one. And I'm like, why are they so shy? No foot person who like, that's their thing has.

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Luna

But I've had people that are like no. And I like feet for.

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Jupiter

Guys and guys who are into pegging and prostate play are the two. I think that think that their personal proclivity is the most outrageous and like something that's unspeakable and actually like, I feel like it's so much more common than anybody realizes because I.

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Luna

Hear from so many bad guys. I'm like, oh, every book guy, every guy is a book guy.

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Jupiter

You're just God's favorite.

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Luna

Well, I think it's because I talk so openly about loving but stuff. I'm creating a like a butt chamber.

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Jupiter

I like an asshole chamber.

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Luna

An echoey asshole chamber. I don't know any other, like, things that come to mind about like shaming moments or just stuff that you've been like, no, dude, you're just that's.

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Jupiter

I mean, honestly, so many, so much of it. I mean, honestly, the things that I find people are the most ashamed of is anything that kind of subverts the power structure that they're supposed to be adhering to. If they're somebody who's, you know, a lot of people who want to play around with the power dynamics of being a submissive, or people who are given too many decisions and too much power on their shoulders in their day to day life.

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Jupiter

And every submissive that I've ever met in my life thinks that what they're into is, like, shameful or, you know, something that they have to hide from. There's not everyone, but almost all of them that if at least come to me, I'm a biased sample size being.

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Luna

Something in the brothel context. Yes. And I imagine if you're working with someone professionally.

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Jupiter

You know, if you're at a kink party or a professional like I know plenty, we know so many proud subs. I'm talking about the clients that come here to scratch that itch, and they are coming here and not asking people in their personal lives because they think that it's something that they can only share with a professional, when in actuality, power dynamics are super common to play with and sex on every level.

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Jupiter

So.

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Luna

And yet maybe in their life, it is true that you are the only person who they can talk to. You know, I talk to a lot of people who are like, you're my secret. And I'm like, I'm a podcaster, though.

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Jupiter

That's the thing. That is, when you are the secret, you get to keep all of the secrets, too.

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Luna

Yeah, but you get paid to keep secrets.

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Jupiter

I do, it's.

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Luna

Could you tell us what your sex education was like?

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Jupiter

So my school education left a lot to be desired. But my self-education. I'm a millennial. I was raised with the internet to a certain degree, after a certain age, at least around sex at age. So while my official school education wasn't particularly robust, you know, we had resources like Scarlet Teen, and I didn't know what that Scarlet was like, an old, like, website that was just a resource for like, safe sex information, reproductive health, all of that.

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Jupiter

They're the only one because their name was so catchy. They're the only name that's coming to the top of my head. But I had the internet in my house, so I did a lot. And I am a researcher who is comforted by knowledge. So I'm like, why is this evil? Let's ask the internet. Oh yeah.

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Luna

So from a young age or a younger person, did you ever get a sex talk from an adult you trusted?

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Jupiter

Yes, but it was a sex is bad and it ruins the garden and it ruins. It was like some weird analogy about how basically, after you have sex, you're completely worthless. And why would anybody want to be with you?

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Luna

You're like, actually, I found the opposite to be true.

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Jupiter

I was like, wait, wait, wait. People want to do something less, the better I get at it. It's I.

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Luna

It's not logical. Like I happened to know that you also have some pretty intense, amazing professional skills. Like I've seen you. You were the first person that I ever saw do double handed Florentine vlogging. Thank you. How did you teach that? Was it all self researched? Drove mentors? Like what was that process like?

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Jupiter

So I when I was in my wee sex worker days, because I have two periods of my life where I've spent time as a sex worker. This period that we're in is my, you know, it's a pirate's life for me. I am, in it to win it. This is the only career I think I'm going to have again.

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Jupiter

But back when I was 18, I did like a stint from, you know, during college, first dancing and then working at a dungeon and the dungeon I worked at, whistle on the side and then later Pandora's Box, but specifically salon decide when you are somebody who is new to the industry and hasn't done any kind of formal training.

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Jupiter

They kind of offer mentorship from the other dominants. So while they're taking their sessions, you sit in and you watch their sessions, and if they're feeling like extending grace, they'll share some of their skills for you. There's also a great website, Kink Academy, where you can, if there's any skills that you feel like you could use, some brushing up on or some learning, you can absolutely go on there and watch like detailed videos.

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Jupiter

I wrote bondage, I had a couple of books from the Naughty Boys, like some of it's self-study, some of it mentorship from other ladies.

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Luna

And practice.

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Jupiter

And practice lots and lots of practice.

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Luna

Can you tell us what health and safety practices you need to feel safe with a lover, and maybe kind of delineate between your personal and various professional lives?

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Jupiter

So in my personal life, my professional life does tend to bleed into it in the regard that I am very stringent in my health and safety requirements.

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Luna

I don't you wish we all were in all our personal lives, like what would you like to normalize? Sorry friend.

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Jupiter

Oh my God, no, I would love to normalize. Not just STI testing, but I would really love to. And this is going to sound so wrong. So please put on a seatbelt and bear with me. I want to normalize catching STIs, not to proliferate STI.

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Luna

Or make super going to her specifically. Like could cause Super Gloria and super Chlamydia are becoming a problem because people like I can take a pill, it's fine.

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Jupiter

But if I had a dollar for the number of times I've spoken to a civilian and they've told me that they're afraid to get tested for something because they're afraid they might have something, which is a logic I will never understand. But it's a very common logic. I know we all got very familiar with it. Yes. And they're afraid of having something or having to tell partner something.

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Jupiter

If we regarded things like chlamydia, syphilis, hepatitis as things that there could be vaccines for, things that there could be cures for, things that are fixable as something that are shameful to have. People aren't going to be motivated to catch them. Whereas like you know, if you're sick and you have a sore throat, you're going to go get swabbed for strep because there's no stigma attached to having strep throat.

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Jupiter

But there is stigma attached to having, you know, strep pussy.

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Luna

I thought I had strep throat for 13 of the most miserable days of my life before I got a call from a partner that was like, hey, my doc has sores on it. And then that's when he revealed that he lied to me about his practices and gave me throat herpes because I like Deep Throat. And every doctor was like, no, couldn't be herpes.

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Luna

No no no, not not possible. No. You'd have to be you'd have to have HIV or be severely immunocompromised to get herpes in your throat. And so I tried to talk about that a lot. I'm on suppressive antivirals, but it's like I'm I'm there with you.

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Jupiter

Fun fact as 70% of, you know, adults do, I get occasional cold.

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Luna

So maybe it's 8080, HSV one is 80 and I think it's like 20 or 30 for HSV two.

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Jupiter

I ran a really interesting thing about how they are fairly certain that those numbers are actually much higher. It's people don't report a lack of testing, and the high prevalence of asymptomatic and atypically symptomatic cases makes diagnosing it a nightmare, because they don't actually test for it in a standard panel.

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Luna

I really ask you.

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Jupiter

Do because they don't they? If you are someone who's asymptomatic, there's no point in prescribing retroviral therapy because that's just an unnecessary strain on, you know, your systems when if you're not having outbreaks anyway, what's the point? Which I also take suppressive. But actually that's the fun loophole I use. My cold sores is how I was able to get a prescription for Val psych Livia, which also works as prophylaxis.

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Jupiter

Yeah.

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Luna

My doctor was like, I don't want to prescribe you suppressive therapies unless you're having outbreaks three times a year or more. And I was like, sorry, I don't want to get three outbreaks a year, you know? But that's also why don't eat sugar. And I sleep really healthy and all of that. But I digress too, because I would love to hear about your health and safety practices and conversation.

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Luna

You were talking about how your professional life influences your personal life.

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Jupiter

So in my personal life, I request at any partners that I'm with not on the same schedule as a porn performer, of course, but I ask that they get before we have any actual sex. I want them to be tested in the same capacity that I'm tested. So I request a gold standard panel, which is more test that I can actually name off the top of my head, but it's all the biggies except for herpes.

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Jupiter

Because of the risk of overprescription I also any of the partners I have, we have open disclosure of risk factors activities outside of, you know, our own personal relationship, just to make sure that we're making an informed decision.

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Luna

Based on risk assessment. When you ask them to get those tests, do you also look at them with your eyeballs? Because lately I've been like, I'd love for you to get tested so much like I did. And I'm like, could I see like, like, where do you fall on that kind of spectrum?

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Jupiter

So I request to see.

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Luna

But okay, but two weeks ago I had a new lover in my personal life who volunteered. This was one of the hardest things. He was like, I know that you want to use protection today because we're trust building, and that's fine. But I also just wanted to make you feel comfortable, and I wanted to show you my test results from last week.

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Luna

And he brought his computer that had his name on it. So unless he was very good at Photoshop, which I didn't get the vibe this person was, he was like, I even got tested for herpes. And I was like, But then I looked and there were HSV results, and I was like that. And I was like, well, it is legit.

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Jupiter

You can get it, you can.

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Luna

Get it done. And he had paid privately out of pocket to do everything, you know, because he is not a Planned Parenthood type of person. You know, he was a dude that was like unprepared.

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Jupiter

But he knew. He said, I even got tested for herpes. Good point. Which means he knew that that was something that was not included in a standard gold panel STI screening.

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Luna

Wild, wild. Okay, so what are safer sex conversations like with you? So you told us about partners. Is there anything else to say about, like how you have the conversation or advice for people who might be nervous, or maybe how you have it in your professional life, like you talk to other talent or at the brothel, like what do you what are the procedures?

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Luna

Well, I know I just asked you five.

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Jupiter

It's okay. I can suss out most them. The easiest one first. With talent, there is no need for a risk assessment conversation, because we have QR codes that we can scan on each other's phones, that pops up our test results, and we can see the date of their last test. The data was collected and we can see how much time is surpassed.

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Jupiter

And then we honestly just say, do you feel like there's any unnecessary risk exposures that you would want to know about? If it was from me, and I trust that they would tell.

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Luna

So there's still an element of trust because of the professional container bill.

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Jupiter

And also largely because like, okay, so ethically speaking, I'm supposed to keep my unprotected sex to strictly within the talent pool if I'm getting talent tested and I'm working on a test from talent testing or Clear, which is the preferred company that I tend to use if I then go out, if I get tested, it clear, and then I go to a sex party and I have unprotected sex with like seven.

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Luna

People, would you do that? I'm at a sex party.

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Jupiter

I no.

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Luna

I was like, me neither.

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Jupiter

But oh good lord no no no no. But let's in fantasy world where Jupiter makes poor decisions. But let's say I do that and then I go and I go on set the next day and I'm like, look, I have a fresh test from yesterday. That's unethical of me. I would feel the need to disclose. I went out and I raw died seven strangers last night.

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Luna

But you wouldn't show up to set like that, did I?

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Jupiter

No, no, no. Again, of course not. Because my body. There's a standard misconception about the sex industry in that we are harbingers of disease and carriers of STIs and crotch. Right. And all of that good stuff. All opposite World War two. It is true. But actually, yeah, when you're when making your bills on time requires the functionality of your reproductive system, you are going to make sure that you're in good working order.

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Jupiter

Getting tested, making safe choices. Because if you make one risky choice tonight, you might be in financial trouble for six months getting out of that hole. So it's actually lower rates of STIs.

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Luna

And I would be so fucking hot if the QR thing were normalized in slutty communities. Is it expensive? Can I ask, is it expensive to do clear. Okay. Yeah. If there's a past system. Right.

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Jupiter

It's it's the. Yeah. The pass screening tool is specifically for performers. So that's not like available to the civilian population.

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Luna

No, no. But in the fantasy world all my life, goal is to make the world a sexy, more loving place by bringing that to the public.

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Jupiter

No, I know well, there actually there are companies I think one of them is safely that are actually trying to do something similar. But yeah, in a perfect world, I would love to just have the QR like we're tested. We're all tested within a certain amount of time, but it is now that we're also getting tested for men and we're getting oral and ritual swabs and the urine and the blood and everything.

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Jupiter

I think it's like $250 per test, and the past standard is 14 days. So every 14 it's about $500 a month.

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Luna

Holy shit. So you pay it every time. It's not like an unlimited.

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Jupiter

Clear does offer an unlimited pass. At least they used to. I don't know if they still do, but even that was, I believe it was 400 or 500 a month as well. So no matter what, you're paying at least 4 to 500 per month for testing to be in the past system.

00:21:08:13 - 00:21:28:12

Luna

But just to tell you guys out there, if you can look up, you can go to free study check dawg, and you can find places to test online that are accessible to you just to say that, okay, what about health and safety conversations in the brothel? I've interviewed a couple of other ladies and they've shared kind of their procedure, but do you feel like that's a fun thing to share here?

00:21:28:14 - 00:21:49:09

Jupiter

You know, I really take it person by person. Of course, I'm very open about the health and safety practices that I take that are going to impact them during our time together. Things like the fact that any sort of digital penetration or basically anything involving a mucous membrane, requires you to wear gloves if you're going to touch it wearing dental dams or laurels.

00:21:49:09 - 00:22:09:09

Jupiter

If we're going to engage in oral sex using condoms for every sex act, these are things that a lot of people don't do in their personal life, whether they're married or they just. Most people don't really use dental dams, even though they should. They really should. But I go over that with every client. And of course, I think we talked about this before, that we do a health check.

00:22:09:09 - 00:22:17:09

Luna

And that's what I love hearing about, because I want that to be standard. And I feel like you would be really good at explaining the inspection. So we do a health.

00:22:17:09 - 00:22:29:22

Jupiter

Check where we just visually inspect genitals, looking for anything that's not supposed to be there, anything atypical lumps, bumps, cracks, critters, anything oozing out of crevices or.

00:22:29:22 - 00:22:35:00

Luna

Holes and you get it. You squeeze for a clear drop of premium if it's a penis or if it's.

00:22:35:00 - 00:22:48:14

Jupiter

A penis owner, we squeeze for, you know, to make. Basically, you start out, I always ask to see bellybutton to upper thigh, and we start with a thorough inspection of the abdomen and the sides of the legs, the groin.

00:22:48:14 - 00:22:51:06

Luna

And you're looking for bumps like everything you said.

00:22:51:08 - 00:23:17:10

Jupiter

Anything, anything that is going to be out of the ordinary. Of course, we're also doing this inspection with gloved hands and an alcohol soaked wipe so that that way, if there's anything, any broken skin will be able to tell. If there's broken skin, if there's rashes. Unfortunately, the most common cause of a failed inspection is actually yeast, because yeast is transmissible, even with just skin to skin contact.

00:23:17:10 - 00:23:35:08

Jupiter

So we have to be very careful about that because we are trying to protect both our safety and the safety of all the other clients that would come in to see us. But yeah, we're just making sure everything looks like a textbook diagram visually. Of course, we can't expect everyone to get tested like we are every single week because we're tested every week.

00:23:35:08 - 00:23:41:21

Luna

But they could at least get tested and not have other partners before they come visit you. In a perfect world, I'm just throwing out suggestions.

00:23:41:21 - 00:24:03:23

Jupiter

In a perfect world, they could. But one of the things that I and I feel like a lot of our clients who come to see us here really appreciate about us, is that we are a discreet place for them to go. And if they are in a, you know, a committed relationship and they're getting STI tested and it's not part of their routine medical workups that could run the risk of being less discreet for them.

00:24:03:23 - 00:24:28:09

Jupiter

I understand where people there there can be. While I want everyone to get tested regularly because even monogamous people can have STIs, that you can be tested once and they can be dormant and you can get tested again. They only find it a sometime later. So it's always good to get regular screenings. But I also understand why going out of the ordinary might be a red flag in somebody's personal life, and I respect that.

00:24:28:09 - 00:24:47:21

Luna

Thank you for all of those details. I love going deep with health and safety, and it's not everyone's, wheelhouse, but I, I also just think the idea of like, deeply, visually inspecting to me, that's a turn on. Like, I love looking and I've definitely freaked partners out looking, but I'm like, if we just started off, you know, because it's like dog sniffing each other's butts.

00:24:47:21 - 00:24:53:14

Luna

I'm like, we just started helping. Like, you know, I think that's fun. Oh.

00:24:53:16 - 00:25:14:14

Jupiter

My favorite thing is when obviously it's such a hot scenario like, hey, we just agreed to this, and now I'm going to look at your penis and make sure it's up to par. Something about it, the tension, it causes an insta boner in a lot of men and I just I adore the really sorry about that. Every time.

00:25:14:15 - 00:25:16:04

Luna

I think it's serious.

00:25:16:06 - 00:25:19:17

Jupiter

And I'm like, don't be sorry that you're turned on for me. This is wonderful.

00:25:19:17 - 00:25:23:01

Luna

Yeah, well, if you just made an agreement to like, go get even more personal debt.

00:25:23:02 - 00:25:25:08

Jupiter

So it's I know I love it.

00:25:25:10 - 00:25:29:09

Luna

Anything else to say about safer sex in general? I think we covered it pretty well.

00:25:29:09 - 00:25:57:15

Jupiter

I mean, the only thing I really wanted to kind of circle back to is just the normalization of coming down with a crotch cold. I want us, as a society, for the best interest of health and safety and the nonproliferation of antibiotic resistance strains of STIs that we could have cured by now. It would be great if we could normalize our sexual health in the same way that we normalize our respiratory health.

00:25:57:20 - 00:26:05:02

Luna

Yeah. And the same sort of care of like, oh, sorry, I have a bad cold. I'm not going to sneeze in your face. Yeah, that's what I know.

00:26:05:02 - 00:26:06:09

Jupiter

I feel like we got real thorough.

00:26:06:10 - 00:26:23:00

Luna

We did a real thorough. Okay. So now take us through your personal sexy time line. Sex, life, work, life, whatever feels relevant starting at the very beginning, when you remember first hearing about sex. And how did we get to the amazing, talented, sexy creature we know today?

00:26:23:06 - 00:26:50:07

Jupiter

Well, I think I've told you before that, like, I kind of grew up in a very religious cult, borderline culty kind of household, so we didn't really have it wasn't a very free love kind of situation at home. But I went to college in New York and when I went to college, I, I already throughout high school being bisexual, but being afraid to come out because I felt that shame and weirdness.

00:26:50:09 - 00:27:16:05

Jupiter

I already kind of felt like what I was raised with was maybe not the whole picture. Okay, but when I moved to New York and I realized that not only is like sex, not shameful, and it's like perfectly fine and normal. And so long as you're not hurting anybody, it's great. But also things like, you know, alternative sexuality, like kink and public sex and group sex and all of that, all of that.

00:27:16:05 - 00:27:25:04

Jupiter

So long as it's healthy and not hurting anybody. I mean, it's something that people do in public. It's something that people host parties for.

00:27:25:04 - 00:27:29:19

Luna

And how did you even learn about this, though? And like, can you say I knew you were bisexual?

00:27:29:19 - 00:27:52:14

Jupiter

Oh, I mean, I knew I was bisexual as soon as I realized that every time they talked about being gay, I got really nervous. Okay. Like, I don't know if that's like, really? Yeah. It's kind of it's hard to, like, really describe. But like, I, when I was younger, I thought that everybody looked at girls and like.

00:27:52:16 - 00:27:53:11

Luna

Knew they were beautiful.

00:27:53:11 - 00:28:15:19

Jupiter

And knew they were beautiful and like, wanted to like, you know, be their friend, but like, really, really be there to play like, so much like, I want to be your BFF so hard, but that that it was a little bit different and I only really put my finger on it when there started being conversations about, like, you know, the abominations of homosexuality.

00:28:15:19 - 00:28:30:20

Jupiter

And the first time I heard someone like, you know, throw out the dike word, I like, got like even though it wasn't directed at me, it was like weirdly like, I didn't know that I was the target that it would land on, but I felt it land on me and it felt like it was someone, you know what I mean?

00:28:30:20 - 00:28:31:14

Jupiter

Like.

00:28:31:16 - 00:28:37:22

Luna

I didn't figure out I like ladies was 25, and that was like after I had started sleeping with pussy owners. Yeah.

00:28:37:22 - 00:28:48:08

Jupiter

No, I like knew I felt like it's like if you have to ask, is there a problem? There's definitely a problem. It's like that, like I, I was like, I knew I, I felt like I had to hide how I felt about other.

00:28:48:08 - 00:28:57:08

Luna

Girls until you got to New York. Was there a moment of like like was it a friend group? Was it a like, how did you get exposed to play parties and kinky things?

00:28:57:08 - 00:28:57:20

Jupiter

I mean.

00:28:57:22 - 00:28:58:22

Luna

Or is it sex work?

00:28:58:22 - 00:29:26:17

Jupiter

So some of it was sex work, some of it was just the people because I was like super goth and like, you know, I already kind of knew that I was going to be more of myself once I moved to New York. That's why I was so adamant to get out of Ohio when I moved there is because I wanted to not have to worry about, you know, anyone I know running into me, like when you move to a new city, I mean, you can be reborn if you want to be.

00:29:26:17 - 00:29:50:13

Jupiter

You know, I knew that that was what I was moving for. And then it just kind of. I met one person who was a fellow weirdo trying to rent a room on Craigslist, and we became friends. And then it just kind of one party here, one party there, a business card for a dungeon. Later. And, I mean, I'd already been dancing at a strip club.

00:29:50:13 - 00:30:08:10

Jupiter

I celebrated my birthday in a strip club, actually, because I was trying to move to New York, and I had a friend of mine who I was like, lamenting because I was working at Taco Bell and just hating my life, and I was just like, man, I need money. I need to make money. I need to make money so I can move to New York.

00:30:08:10 - 00:30:17:14

Jupiter

I don't know what I'm going to do. I'll never save up enough to get out of here. And my friend I'll never forget. She looked at me and she was like, you know, I think I might have an answer for you.

00:30:17:16 - 00:30:20:12

Luna

What did you think when she was like stripping?

00:30:20:13 - 00:30:29:07

Jupiter

Well, my first reaction, actually, enough was like, totally on board. But I'm not hot enough to do that. Do like, I was like, I'm not hot enough to do that.

00:30:29:07 - 00:30:34:00

Luna

I was like, I don't have the skills. And I tried to get them. And that was.

00:30:34:00 - 00:30:36:07

Jupiter

Like, I've seen Coyote Ugly. I'm not.

00:30:36:07 - 00:30:37:10

Luna

That. Wow.

00:30:37:12 - 00:30:51:02

Jupiter

Okay. No, that was my that was my response. But then she was like, no, no, no, honey, you don't get it. You're already there. You're or you don't have to work out. You don't have to change anything about yourself. You're already hot enough. She taught me the figure eight. She taught me the base. She had a pole and a house.

00:30:51:02 - 00:31:06:17

Jupiter

And she taught me the basics of like, here's how you dance on it, here's how you climb it, here's how you do x, y, z. And then on my 18th birthday, she took me up to the strip club and like, cheered me on my audition because she already worked at that strip club and she cheered me on while I auditioned.

00:31:06:17 - 00:31:16:18

Jupiter

And that's how I afforded my first career. It's how I started my, you know, first, like adventuring out into the world was I called it half naked fundraising.

00:31:16:19 - 00:31:19:09

Luna

I love that I want to do full naked fundraising.

00:31:19:09 - 00:31:34:12

Jupiter

I don't, I know has really strict laws of even back then they have really strict laws about pole dancing. So like you're not even allowed to be naked. You have to have your nipples painted and you have to wear pasties, or you have to wear panties at all times. So, I'll shake my ass for some college tuition.

00:31:34:14 - 00:31:54:02

Luna

I forget the people aren't fully naked. I'm reading a book right now about a burlesque dancer, and they're talking about dancing naked on stage, and they got to the pasties part and I'm like, oh, there's pasties all the way. So I don't think I'm naked. And I forget that naked means different things. So would you say that you already identified, like had you been having sex at this point, like partnered sex or exploring your own body at this point?

00:31:54:06 - 00:31:54:20

Luna

I mean.

00:31:54:20 - 00:32:02:00

Jupiter

Yes, I had had a little bit of what I considered sex. I had a boyfriend in high school. Did you feel.

00:32:02:00 - 00:32:12:21

Luna

Confident about sex or like because for me, I was like, I couldn't do stripping. I'm not good enough. And like, you know, no, you know, what was your feeling about it? You were just like, all right, I'm doing it. And then you bought a car.

00:32:12:21 - 00:32:34:10

Jupiter

I was here for it largely because I, like I said, I was a goth chick, you know, like from I'd say around like, 14 is when I started buying my clothes from like Hot Topic and like chain link addiction, which was like the local, like goth punk store. Okay. So like I would show up to, you know, school in like, garters and like fishnets and all sorts of crazy stuff.

00:32:34:10 - 00:32:35:22

Jupiter

I've got great pictures from back. Were you a.

00:32:35:22 - 00:32:37:12

Luna

Goth stripper or did you go.

00:32:37:12 - 00:32:50:22

Jupiter

Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, I've got some fun pictures. And it was way before. It was like a thing, like they used to make me paint my tattoos. There was one. I had bright pink hair, and they. There was the one strip club in Ohio they used to make me wear a freaking wig. Made me look like Glenn Danzig.

00:32:50:22 - 00:32:52:15

Jupiter

It was so stupid.

00:32:52:17 - 00:32:53:14

Luna

Who? I don't know, this.

00:32:53:14 - 00:32:55:11

Jupiter

Is the lead singer of the misfits. It's not.

00:32:55:12 - 00:32:56:04

Luna

Like, oh.

00:32:56:08 - 00:33:15:15

Jupiter

It's not a guy like anybody out there who got it. Like, it's not a good look, but, you know, things are much easier these days for the alternative, ladies. But, yeah, like, I was already so used to being sexualized because even at like 14, 15, walking down the street on my way to school carrying a backpack, I was being sexualized already.

00:33:15:15 - 00:33:28:23

Jupiter

I had, you know, people catcalling and men trying to offer me rides and things like that. And I figured if I'm going to be sexualized, I might as well be able to pay my rent with it.

00:33:29:00 - 00:33:29:16

Luna

And be in charge.

00:33:29:16 - 00:33:45:16

Jupiter

Of it. Yeah. I mean, taking agency of my own sexualization is, I think, the largest single factor in how I got to negative nine, because it's the combination of sexy sin eater. Everything is normal. Literally everything is normal. The most upstanding members of society have something real weird.

00:33:45:16 - 00:33:50:16

Luna

They're not. Unless you're in pain, probably normal. And unless you're choosing the pain on purpose, you know what I mean?

00:33:50:16 - 00:33:52:11

Jupiter

Like I say, unless you really like the pain.

00:33:52:11 - 00:34:01:12

Luna

Well, that's. But that's a chosen pain. Emily Nagasaki of Come As You Are says that, you know, probably normal unless you are physically in pain and you're not choosing.

00:34:01:14 - 00:34:05:17

Jupiter

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. No. Of course. Yeah. Like intentional pain is different from unintentional.

00:34:05:20 - 00:34:14:18

Luna

So speaking of intentional pain, did going to the dungeon overlap with stripping? Was it separate? Did you understand you were kinky before dungeon? The dungeon teach you how to be kinky? Was it a.

00:34:14:18 - 00:34:15:07

Jupiter

Hole?

00:34:15:13 - 00:34:17:00

Luna

So I circle.

00:34:17:03 - 00:34:48:18

Jupiter

I it's kind of a little bit of a chaos circle, but there really wasn't much, if any, overlap between the strip club and the dungeon, because when I moved to New York, I still kept dancing for a little bit. But my workload at school was kind of outrageous, especially for having to work as much as I did. And also, if you can't tell, I'm a very dramatic individual, and I really the one thing I really loved about stripping and that made it a fun job, even the nights that it was a slog was that I could pick my own music and I could go up on stage and, you know, make a little stage show

00:34:48:18 - 00:35:04:16

Jupiter

and attract attention, or at least have fun up there. And in New York, all of the strip clubs there, it's the same thing is kind of in most of the clubs in Las Vegas where it's just like five stripper poles and everybody is up on stage at the same time. So it's an endless loop of instruments.

00:35:04:18 - 00:35:06:18

Luna

Okay.

00:35:06:20 - 00:35:14:22

Jupiter

And I hated it because it didn't feel like theatrical. It literally took it from feeling like, like a low rent burlesque dancer to.

00:35:15:02 - 00:35:18:08

Luna

Arguably high rent because they make more money than burlesque.

00:35:18:10 - 00:35:20:17

Jupiter

That the outfits are cheaper.

00:35:20:18 - 00:35:22:09

Luna

And less work to make.

00:35:22:11 - 00:35:43:00

Jupiter

I believe. Yeah, but it kind of removed so much of the joy from stripping that when I got introduced to Bdsm as a job, I was like, oh yeah, because then I have complete creative control over the entire experience and I'm still monetizing my sexualization, if that makes any sense.

00:35:43:00 - 00:35:50:00

Luna

Yeah. So is that where you learned you said you like impact play. So is that where you like learned about it most? And then can you tell us your favorite types of impact?

00:35:50:02 - 00:36:20:14

Jupiter

So working in the dungeons is how I learned that I enjoy, you know, that dynamic. And I enjoy that atmosphere. And I really do like impact play and having that control over someone. But it wasn't until honestly, years later that I got into porn and realized that I enjoy receiving it as well. So there's actually about a decade, almost a decade in between learning about safe impact zones and implements and all of those important things with impact as.

00:36:20:14 - 00:36:21:00

Luna

A top.

00:36:21:01 - 00:36:40:21

Jupiter

As a top, and then almost a decade in between before I actually, I mean, of course, I would try out, you know, any implement I'm going to use on a sub or a bottom, I'm going to try out myself first that I can have an idea of how it, you know, feels on the skin. But never had I, you know, taken on that role as a bottom until years later.

00:36:40:23 - 00:36:53:05

Luna

Okay, okay. I mean, I would imagine too, with all of that experience, it would require a professional or a very, very, very knowledgeable nerd to be able to hold satisfying space for you. Yeah.

00:36:53:05 - 00:36:58:23

Jupiter

I mean, a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot. I'm a lot to keep up with at this point in my life.

00:36:59:01 - 00:37:02:18

Luna

Right. So what are your favorite types of impact?

00:37:02:22 - 00:37:43:09

Jupiter

I like slapping, stinging, whipping. Like oh giving oh giving. I love flogging even though it's not particularly extreme. I just I do really and joy flogging I enjoy really good at it. Thank you. I also really enjoy spanking. You know, paddling like basically anything that lets me kind of almost like edging. I really do because I, I have been told by some, and I'd like to consider myself fairly good at reading other people's energy and where they're at in the moment in terms of how close they are to, you know, I like pushing the boundaries, never breaking the boundaries, never getting right up against them.

00:37:43:09 - 00:37:51:20

Jupiter

But I like any play that allows me to play long enough to kind of like ease up and back on that boundary.

00:37:51:20 - 00:38:07:23

Luna

And as a submissive, I really like it when a top wants to take me to my edge. Maybe I need to mercy, but I don't want to fully break. Like I still want to feel proud that I got stretched and tried something new. You know, like when someone is just like doing, you know, like with my former Dom at the end, it was like, boop boop boop.

00:38:07:23 - 00:38:26:22

Luna

And I was like, but please, period. Tweet my experience. Can I also say, I have seen you use a single tail? Amazingly like you. How did you learn that? Like, that's a special skill that is make perfect. How do you like what order of toys to get? Was it just like, how did they come into your life? Or is it well.

00:38:27:00 - 00:38:44:04

Jupiter

So the single tail I actually, truth be told, when I use a single tail in session, I know you've seen this before. I only crack it to scare them. I never actually use it as a full extended whip with a client, because I still don't consider myself skilled enough with a single tail, even after well over a decade of practice with it.

00:38:44:06 - 00:39:04:07

Jupiter

I do not have enough faith with me and my one good eye that I am going to have the aim. That's enough to not potentially inflict damage on someone. So anytime I'm using a single tail, it's always doubled over. I'm not going to brag about skills that I don't have. I am good with using a whip. I'm very great at show whipping and, you know, cracking it, scaring people, all of that good stuff.

00:39:04:09 - 00:39:24:00

Jupiter

I don't use a single tail just on it. I'm not at that level. I have so much on it and I would love to as someday I actually before the pandemic, I had paid for a workshop to go and hone more of my whip skills among other things, and unfortunately it had to get canceled and refunded, so I never got to do it.

00:39:24:00 - 00:39:40:08

Jupiter

But that's actually on my list of like, someday I will feel confident that I won't be a risk to my play partner to use a single tail on flesh, but right now I use the crack as psychological fear. You know, put them in the zone of oh, oh, bad things are happening, but it's good.

00:39:40:08 - 00:39:50:14

Luna

Things. Okay, so how did we get from working as a problem to a professional porn actress and legal brothel courtesan?

00:39:50:16 - 00:40:09:12

Jupiter

So we actually take a wild left turn. I actually got completely out of the sex industry. Not because I was like, oh, I'm done with the sex industry, but just because I wanted to go to Europe after I got done with college. So I went overseas and it was just supposed to be a 3 to 6 month backpacking trip.

00:40:09:14 - 00:40:32:01

Jupiter

As soon as I realized that I could make money just by singing with my guitar. So. It was so hot, so villain ish. But I as soon as I realized that, I was like, oh, screw going back to the US, I'm staying here. And I stayed overseas for like five years entirely, just traveling around and playing music for a living.

00:40:32:03 - 00:40:33:23

Luna

Did you bang people along the way?

00:40:34:00 - 00:40:53:11

Jupiter

I did actually, that was in my leg. So one of my top kinks that I didn't list because I don't have to speak about it publicly because it gets satisfied all the time. In my job, one of my top kinks is casual sex with strangers. I love having sex with strangers, and it's not like it doesn't have to be hot strangers.

00:40:53:11 - 00:40:59:12

Jupiter

I mean, like, I have. I take a big I dig, I'm small. Well, there's there's different types of different kinds of hot, and there is not.

00:40:59:13 - 00:41:00:23

Luna

Meeting with strangers out in the.

00:41:00:23 - 00:41:13:11

Jupiter

World. Yeah. Like I love being in strangers. It's like a thing that I actually haven't had. Like random hookup sex with a stranger in the longest time because I get that kink so thoroughly fed here. But I did that a lot in Europe.

00:41:13:11 - 00:41:33:12

Luna

We like right away because I met someone on the street last week for the first time, and then like five days later, I spent all day fucking them and it was so hot and it was like, it's the cutest meet cute I've had in a minute, especially since I've had my boundaries up since. I mean, I imagine you get I already get dozens of inquiries weekly and monthly.

00:41:33:12 - 00:41:39:18

Luna

I can only imagine what makes its way to your inbox, but you still find it satisfying to go like, discover a rando.

00:41:39:18 - 00:41:50:12

Jupiter

Yeah, I love that. I mean, I actually I got correctly mistaken for a sex worker. And they were right, but I was off the clock, I wasn't working, I stayed at a hotel here in Vegas. That was me.

00:41:50:12 - 00:41:51:03

Luna

No.

00:41:51:05 - 00:42:09:15

Jupiter

I they'll remain nameless because I don't believe in trashing businesses online. But I stayed at a hotel here with my best friend for a few days, and he went, my best friend is a boy. And he went back to Ohio. And I still had another night at the hotel. So I was like, I'm gonna get some strange.

00:42:09:18 - 00:42:33:09

Jupiter

So I went out, I met a cutie, invited him up to my room at like the Brazen harlot I am. And the sex was not amazing. I actually, I feel bad, I made him feel a little bad, but I thought he was going to be a communicator anyway. I'm not going to get distracted after I left. After I checked out, there was a $500 charge on my bill for towels that they needed to replace.

00:42:33:11 - 00:42:57:18

Jupiter

What, a $500 charge for towels? And I was like, what on earth? And I called and they wouldn't give any explanation, and it had to be explained to be by one of the less clueless women in the industry that they charged me $500 as like a yeah, they they saw you go up to your room with two different dudes, and the one dude you picked up at the bar in a casino, they assumed you were working as a freestyler.

00:42:57:18 - 00:42:59:17

Jupiter

They charged you so you wouldn't come back.

00:42:59:17 - 00:43:04:17

Luna

I fucking hate that. I'm like, literally fucking Spotify. I'm following the.

00:43:04:17 - 00:43:12:10

Jupiter

Rules. I would just like to have it on the record that I was not being a whore. I was being a slut. Yeah, I was being a slut, not a whore. God damn it. There is a.

00:43:12:10 - 00:43:17:08

Luna

Distinction, a distinction two and you go out of your way to do things legally.

00:43:17:08 - 00:43:35:15

Jupiter

I do, you know, I seriously, I am I sleep very soundly at night. There is only legal activities on my roster. I would never casino freestyle. I would never restaurant freestyle. I would never, you know, that's just I'm too scared for that. I'm very murdered.

00:43:35:15 - 00:43:37:06

Luna

I don't have the social skills.

00:43:37:06 - 00:43:44:01

Jupiter

I very I'm very arrestable, very murderer. Bill. Thank you. But no thank you decorum for all. Anyway.

00:43:44:03 - 00:43:47:07

Luna

Okay, so you're up and but now you're here.

00:43:47:07 - 00:44:06:23

Jupiter

So. Yeah. Anyway, I was about five years in Europe. I came back here to the United States. I actually plans to emigrate to Europe, but my grandfather got sick and I was the only person who was, you know, feasibly available to step in and help take care of him. So I spent, about seven years off and on being his caretaker.

00:44:06:23 - 00:44:09:14

Luna

And two years before he passed away.

00:44:09:16 - 00:44:29:23

Jupiter

I was just bartending. Waitressing. That way I could have a regular schedule. And, you know, last to explain, while I was caretaking, but after he passed away, it was like, well, getting a boob job and doing porn. But what led me to the brothel was actually a cracked article. I had been completely out of the sex industry for years, and I was already thinking like, okay, next moves.

00:44:29:23 - 00:44:52:04

Jupiter

I don't want to be a bartender for the rest of my life. All of the trades are really sexist, you know? What can I do that's going to make me happy? And the important part? Something is different every day so that I don't get so bored and under stimulated that life isn't fun anymore. And I read this cracked article about being a legal courtesan, and I was like, oh, sold.

00:44:52:04 - 00:45:02:02

Jupiter

And I applied on a whim, thinking it was going to take them months. I got hired within 24 hours, and I've been here ever since. Wow.

00:45:02:04 - 00:45:04:18

Luna

Yeah. And then you started doing porn after.

00:45:04:18 - 00:45:28:03

Jupiter

Yeah. And, I that's why I said I had to backtrack and and really think about it, because I was here for about two years before I did porn. I actually didn't start doing mainstream porn until after the pandemic, but I got into porn largely because of a client that I had here. That's she. Yeah. She was, I miss her, I love her, yeah.

00:45:28:03 - 00:45:48:05

Jupiter

No, she was delightful. Absolutely. Like excellent conversationalist. And that's not a euphemism. She was just really fun to talk to, among other things. But she had, favorite porn star since age, and she was like, I would love for you to make a video with her. Would you be willing to? And I was like, sure, because I had made a couple of clips like, you know, nothing serious.

00:45:48:05 - 00:46:06:20

Jupiter

Just like, you know, I'm going to pee in the woods like fetish clips. And I was like, sure. But this lady is a legend. There's no way she's going to film with me. Well, she said yes. And I shot with her and she was like, dude, you're really good at this. You should do more of this. And I did one more film in February of 2020, right before the shut down.

00:46:06:22 - 00:46:13:22

Jupiter

And that film got not only my second project I ever got nominated for an even so.

00:46:14:00 - 00:46:17:06

Luna

I know all but during the pandemic year. Yeah.

00:46:17:06 - 00:46:24:05

Jupiter

So I got to go to the my first event as a nominee, but it was from my couch jam. Yeah, that was kind of a bummer.

00:46:24:05 - 00:46:28:16

Luna

But did you masturbate then in the privacy of your okay?

00:46:28:17 - 00:46:32:14

Jupiter

No, I was on a live stream with the rest of the crew that had made that movie.

00:46:32:16 - 00:46:34:18

Luna

So it's not a turn on in the same way.

00:46:34:19 - 00:46:38:12

Jupiter

I wasn't trying to like, I feel like that would have been cool.

00:46:38:12 - 00:46:40:00

Luna

That's an important piece of.

00:46:40:01 - 00:46:40:05

Jupiter

You.

00:46:40:05 - 00:46:41:13

Luna

Know, that's an important piece of content.

00:46:41:13 - 00:46:55:19

Jupiter

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I will say I was so happy I could have killed off, but that was all I like. Kind of the sign I needed from the universe, like, oh, it's you are good at this. And again, fake titties and a porn agent. And now here we are.

00:46:55:19 - 00:46:56:10

Luna

Amazing.

00:46:56:10 - 00:47:09:10

Jupiter

I just wanted to backtrack and make it very clear that as much as I make jokes about, you know, got fake tits and got a porn agent, you don't need fake tits to get a porn agent. I just want to throw that out there. Natural boobs are great, too. You don't need them to be successful.

00:47:09:10 - 00:47:12:14

Luna

Anything. So you're saying there's all boobs?

00:47:12:14 - 00:47:19:06

Jupiter

I'm saying all boobs are good boobs. I agree, all the. These are good. There's no such thing as bad boobs. Do you have boobs? They're good, I promise you.

00:47:19:06 - 00:47:22:01

Luna

But specifically in this room. What are you saying about mainstream porn?

00:47:22:01 - 00:47:27:03

Jupiter

I'm just saying I would watch ten out of ten would stream.

00:47:27:05 - 00:47:39:12

Luna

Okay, so, like, how has it been turn ons, turn off sexiest parts of your job, least sexy parts of your job? Like what have you learned about pleasure in general and in your own body? Literally and left literally.

00:47:39:17 - 00:48:04:00

Jupiter

Yeah. Well, I mean, I kind of already touched on the fact, but like, I didn't realize that I liked receiving impact play until recently. And by recently, I mean within the last like three years or so. And that is 100% because of this job, because I realized I had a freakishly high pain tolerance, and I was in a movie where it was like, well, can we whip you and cane you and stuff like that?

00:48:04:00 - 00:48:05:04

Jupiter

And I was like, let's try it.

00:48:05:06 - 00:48:06:11

Luna

That was your first serious.

00:48:06:12 - 00:48:10:15

Jupiter

Yeah. My first time getting cane was on film. Yeah. I like to have my face on film.

00:48:10:17 - 00:48:25:20

Luna

Will you? I'm wanting to do my own personal bucket list. I mean, I've done a lot of things, but I want to document everything just because I'm curious. And I get turned on by that. And it is so hot to me that your first are like, not just documented, but you got paid to document them, like.

00:48:25:22 - 00:48:33:01

Jupiter

Yeah, my very first, like my first scene like on Wkyc.com is my first DP like period.

00:48:33:03 - 00:48:36:17

Luna

I still haven't had my first DP, so maybe that's can.

00:48:36:17 - 00:48:38:17

Jupiter

Recommend can recommend.

00:48:38:17 - 00:48:44:20

Luna

Yeah. Can you tell it. What can you tell us about it. Like how much like what do you remember about it. Were you nervous? I had done anal before.

00:48:44:22 - 00:48:47:22

Jupiter

Not with a real dick. Really? Yeah.

00:48:48:00 - 00:48:56:15

Luna

Yeah. So did you bring the pair? Were you just, like, learning? Like what? And because. So my understanding is camera preparation is a whole other level. Even from personal day.

00:48:56:18 - 00:49:25:11

Jupiter

I have the gift slash curse of constipation. So that that wasn't as the prep wasn't that wasn't my concern I had. I can't poop when I want to, so I'm not. I wasn't really afraid that I was going to poop on my costars. Like that was not a concern. But the bigger concern for me was just that, like, I was afraid that I might, you know, if because these guys, we're not talking like normal, like, you know, neighborhood bar dicks, we're talking like the NBA of, you know, swordsmanship here.

00:49:25:11 - 00:49:42:06

Jupiter

Like, these are penis professionals. So, like, I was a little bit afraid of, like, tearing or bleeding or hemorrhoids or anything like that. But no, these guys were great professionals. Answer is just buckets of lube and, you know, taking the time to warm up. But like I discovered that my butthole is a gymnast.

00:49:42:06 - 00:49:47:04

Luna

That's so cool. I just I have an inflatable butt plug I haven't used yet. Have you ever used one? No.

00:49:47:06 - 00:50:10:22

Jupiter

No, I have like graduated. I started playing with graduated butt plugs and then I found like I have like a pegging toy that is like very hyper realistic dick, but like, it's like kind of like a lot of real dicks. It's smaller at the end than it is at the base. So like, you can kind of like work it in and work it up and like John Strong, like amazing at what he does.

00:50:10:22 - 00:50:18:18

Jupiter

Like I was like mostly worried about again, being able to take dicks and also like, what if I fall off a flag? What if I'm like.

00:50:18:20 - 00:50:21:03

Luna

What do you mean fall off? Like fall off? Because, like.

00:50:21:05 - 00:50:43:22

Jupiter

I'm not going to show you right now because there's a microphone, but like, there's like only really two positions that you can three really that you can like really effectively get deep to in for the camera because they need to be able to see. Right. And that is either you in doggy style, which is less comfortable because of the angle or essentially missionary, although I don't think the missionaries would approve.

00:50:44:00 - 00:50:50:02

Luna

New missionary. Well, you're a trailblazer. A trailblazing toilet bag.

00:50:50:02 - 00:50:57:23

Jupiter

Should we call that the backslide? But where you're like laying back so you're balancing on someone's torso with their dick in your butt?

00:50:58:00 - 00:51:03:21

Luna

That's what my partner, who tease me, he's like, I would be the base, and then we'd have someone else on top of you. And I was like.

00:51:03:23 - 00:51:21:18

Jupiter

Dude didn't really fall. Dude didn't fall at all. And even though he had like the biggest dick of like I and as I recall, he had one of the biggest dicks on set like which he also like was very like accommodating because I was very open about like, this is my first anal scene. All those guys were great, but like, he's the one who like I balanced on and didn't get dropped.

00:51:21:18 - 00:51:29:08

Jupiter

So like eternal he's laying down. Yeah. Laying down and like kind of like holding my legs up to make sure that I'm like balanced while I'm like, you know.

00:51:29:13 - 00:51:32:04

Luna

So you're the opposite direction on him. I'm trying to match.

00:51:32:05 - 00:51:36:14

Jupiter

Like it's like my back on his stomach laid back.

00:51:36:15 - 00:51:38:03

Luna

Okay, okay. It's like sitting in his lap.

00:51:38:03 - 00:51:46:09

Jupiter

Sitting in his lap, essentially, but then laying down with like on top, okay. So that he can have dick and butt and guys can come up because again, it was a.

00:51:46:11 - 00:51:47:11

Luna

Multiple multiple it.

00:51:47:11 - 00:51:52:12

Jupiter

Was it was my first anal was a six guy deep gangbang for kink.

00:51:52:12 - 00:52:03:05

Luna

Doug. So he stays in the back. Yeah. And then others just come in. Did he line them up by size? That's one of my greatest fantasies. Not that I recall. I want to tell my had. I'm not to be a size thing, but just because I think.

00:52:03:05 - 00:52:05:09

Jupiter

The majority of dolls of like dicks.

00:52:05:11 - 00:52:21:16

Luna

I love that we're even base side. Like I don't care either way. It like I love to line stuff up. I find it so satisfying. So like I'll line up papers and napkins and I think so often about like, lining up dicks and pussies and just pleasuring them or being used by them. I love it's like slutty that in really I mean, it is it.

00:52:21:18 - 00:52:24:22

Jupiter

It's really slutty autism I love it, I can relate.

00:52:25:00 - 00:52:29:07

Luna

Are there other firsts on camera that you have experienced or like?

00:52:29:12 - 00:52:32:14

Jupiter

Yes, I learned what shotting is on. Oh.

00:52:32:16 - 00:52:42:07

Luna

I want to take pictures. That's it right. Yeah. But wait so you got to like facilitate it. Yeah. Because it's got to be the fodder I remind, because it is a one foreskin going over the other. Dick.

00:52:42:10 - 00:52:52:22

Jupiter

Sir, fraud is essentially like ducking or sword fighting where like, the foreskin doesn't have to be over it. Essentially a handjob in between two dicks where they're like.

00:52:52:22 - 00:53:00:21

Luna

Oh, maybe I don't know what to do. I thought frosting was two dicks. At least one of them has a foreskin, and the foreskin goes over the other dick. And then that's.

00:53:00:21 - 00:53:01:23

Jupiter

Yeah. No, no, no.

00:53:01:23 - 00:53:04:07

Luna

So you could do it with your own hands and toys.

00:53:04:07 - 00:53:06:13

Jupiter

It's like a Chinese finger trap with dicks.

00:53:06:15 - 00:53:09:09

Luna

Oh, my God, that's so fun. But you use your own hands.

00:53:09:11 - 00:53:12:03

Jupiter

You use your hands. Yeah. I'm like, oh, I like your mouth.

00:53:12:04 - 00:53:15:17

Luna

I want to do that with all sensation. Yeah. So you're making my bucket list is really fun.

00:53:15:20 - 00:53:16:11

Jupiter

It was a good time.

00:53:16:12 - 00:53:17:16

Luna

That was really cool. Yeah.

00:53:17:16 - 00:53:18:04

Jupiter

Bye for.

00:53:18:04 - 00:53:20:16

Luna

You. Did you hear that? Did you have to practice hand? Oh, no.

00:53:20:21 - 00:53:25:07

Jupiter

The trust me, they kept me busy doing other things. Like the hands didn't have a chance to get tired. That was just one facet of.

00:53:25:07 - 00:53:26:05

Luna

Yeah, yeah. What else?

00:53:26:11 - 00:53:30:04

Jupiter

It was a full devil's three way. Although there was no DP in that scene, because that was.

00:53:30:04 - 00:53:32:14

Luna

Whatever Devil's three way has to have it, you know?

00:53:32:14 - 00:53:33:20

Jupiter

I know, but the fun was.

00:53:33:23 - 00:53:39:09

Luna

Like, have you have you ever had a DP and a cock in your mouth or just spit roast? Yeah. Same.

00:53:39:15 - 00:53:47:09

Jupiter

Same scene. Yeah. The King Arkham scene. Yeah. It was for Savage gangbang. So like. Yeah, it was they call that airtight. It's when it's like all three holes. Yeah.

00:53:47:10 - 00:54:02:03

Luna

Oh. Air tight. I thought it had a different name. What I feel. Oh I felt I was just when they high five over you. Okay. Can you tell us about the, like, social aspects of being a porn performer. Have you met them before? Do you talk at all? What's the vibe? I'm sure it's different. Set to set. I've heard it's different set to set.

00:54:02:03 - 00:54:20:03

Jupiter

I have actually still been figuring that out myself. I actually found out if you're a porn performer who I worked with in the first like three months of my time in the industry, you probably think I was trying to fuck you off camera because I didn't know. I didn't know that, like inviting, like, oh, hey, do you wanna go grab food?

00:54:20:05 - 00:54:34:14

Jupiter

Or, like, inviting someone out is like a no no. Like it is. Yeah, I guess so. I don't know me just. Okay, I'm still figuring it out, but in general, like, it's a very professional. Like you shouldn't like, ask somebody like, out afterwards unless everybody is going.

00:54:34:18 - 00:54:43:06

Luna

To do so. I'm a professional photographer and I'm working with other photographers, like when I was working EDC in Vegas, like we always would get food together. But that's a difficult thing.

00:54:43:07 - 00:54:44:06

Jupiter

It's a whole group.

00:54:44:06 - 00:54:46:14

Luna

Because the job. No, no, no, it was just the two of us. Okay, I.

00:54:46:14 - 00:54:54:00

Jupiter

Don't know, but I feel like I'm still figuring it out. But I was informed that basically, I might have made a bunch of people think that I was trying to bang them, which was like, I mean.

00:54:54:00 - 00:54:58:00

Luna

There are additional layers of social confusion because the job is sex, maybe. Yes.

00:54:58:01 - 00:55:20:00

Jupiter

Okay, yes. And I'm still kind of dissecting some of that because I've never been super great at like social cues and like reading the subtext of how I'm supposed to behave. So I'm just like, friendly, like I want to be everyone's friend, that I don't buy into that whole, like, if you're a boy like, or a boy and I'm like, yeah, then we must be queer mantic.

00:55:20:03 - 00:55:31:22

Jupiter

Yeah. No, seriously. Like I was scissoring before I was sucking dick. Not actually scissoring, though, because I didn't realize that that's actually a thing until porn. And it's fun. That's how I always thought that scissoring was a lie, and it was just.

00:55:31:22 - 00:55:33:09

Luna

Something to be done with Barbies.

00:55:33:13 - 00:55:38:06

Jupiter

Or for Barbies. But no, no, no, like that's actually it's done if positioned correctly.

00:55:38:06 - 00:55:39:21

Luna

Tell us the correct position.

00:55:39:23 - 00:56:00:00

Jupiter

Oh, it's different for everyone. It's all about like you have to like squish in there and figure out whether are we going to be doing like a Captain Morgan vibe. Are we going to be doing like side to side? Is everybody is different and it's all about like where you are at that makes that perfect contact contact. But like how when when you find it.

00:56:00:02 - 00:56:05:00

Luna

Is there anything okay. Well first is there anything else we need to know. And then are there any things that you haven't done yet that you want to do?

00:56:05:00 - 00:56:06:15

Jupiter

All you need to know is everything.

00:56:06:19 - 00:56:10:08

Luna

All you need to know is you can probably find it all online to really find a comprehend.

00:56:10:08 - 00:56:17:17

Jupiter

Oh yeah. No, no no, I did. Sometimes I look at the foreign reviews and I'm like, really? Damn.

00:56:17:18 - 00:56:31:08

Luna

What about in brothel life? Are the turn ons turn offs different there? I'm sure there's like a lot of overlap. You're holding space instead of having other people like, hold space for you. So like, what's the hardest parts of that for you? I mean, stranger sex we got.

00:56:31:09 - 00:56:49:23

Jupiter

We have the stranger. Sex is always great. But also there is a dynamic at the brothel that's not present anywhere else I've ever had sex. And that is, I am curating a sexual experience solely for the pleasure of somebody else. Which one? I'm very receptive. Sexual. I'm turned on by turning blond.

00:56:49:23 - 00:56:51:18

Luna

I've never heard that term. How have I not?

00:56:51:21 - 00:56:57:17

Jupiter

I am given right. I can't take credit for it. Really cute ginger boy that I banged a while ago. Had that.

00:56:57:17 - 00:57:01:20

Luna

I've been all like, I have a responsive desire, you know, which is that reciprocal.

00:57:01:20 - 00:57:02:14

Jupiter

Super sexual.

00:57:02:14 - 00:57:03:12

Luna

I must say that.

00:57:03:17 - 00:57:18:18

Jupiter

But I'm super turned on by what, like, turns people on. Like, I have gotten flooded wet at a dude who was putting his dick in a literal, not Acme vacuum. What's the one's the Kirby? The Kirby vacuums? This man had his own dedicated sex. Kirby.

00:57:18:18 - 00:57:25:00

Luna

We just heard from someone who has a dedicated sex vacuum. I wonder if it's just splinters.

00:57:25:02 - 00:57:38:18

Jupiter

Did you used to go to a salon? Decide. And did you hire two girls to throw pillows at you and say mean things while you put your dick in a Kirby? Because if you are, I have loved you for years. You're one of my favorite people because that was one of the best fucking parts. Soaking wet. It was great.

00:57:38:21 - 00:57:54:14

Jupiter

We just literally yelled me names at him and threw like, we ended up like throw because it was like a humiliation thing, like throwing pillows at him and like, made him so happy. He was so happy. And like, again, I've never seen human meat do that. It was so good because it was great. But yeah, no, I would be happy with either outcome.

00:57:54:14 - 00:58:13:01

Jupiter

Either a the same man with a dedicated sex Kirby or just one of your fans, or we live in a world where there are. Again, it goes back to however random you think your sexual proclivity is, there is someone else out there, and there was probably lots of other people out there who find it to be completely normal.

00:58:13:03 - 00:58:29:13

Jupiter

And it is completely normal. You're not hurting that Kirby, that Kirby is doing its job. It was designed to do that. Okay. But yeah, no, I want to live in a world where there's multiple people who have dedicated sex. Kirby's. It would explain how they're still selling those at the price point. To be honest.

00:58:29:13 - 00:58:30:09

Luna

Wait.

00:58:30:11 - 00:58:32:01

Jupiter

Kirby's are expensive. Really?

00:58:32:03 - 00:58:42:00

Luna

I haven't done it, but now I am. I was literally just finished because I've been playing with pussy pumps lately and I'm like, wait, I could put a vacuum on there. I don't know if it would be a good idea, but the Kirby's real strong.

00:58:42:00 - 00:58:42:22

Jupiter

I'd be careful.

00:58:43:00 - 00:58:54:14

Luna

Right? That's what I was thinking about. Like I was like, what? It cut. My lips don't want it. Okay, so, you mentioned your wetness, and I happen to have a little bit of foreknowledge that you're a very wet person.

00:58:54:16 - 00:59:04:12

Jupiter

So. Yeah. No, no, no, it's okay. It is a miracle of nature that I have no control over. But yes, I have outrageously moisturized down there by nature.

00:59:04:12 - 00:59:07:00

Luna

And you have to make a special effort to hydrate or.

00:59:07:01 - 00:59:34:16

Jupiter

No, no, no. If I get turned on, it's just a waterworks. Like my Linda Lovelace moment in porn was for the set of Forefinger Club 29 from New Sensations. I got fisted and everybody on like, set was like. Because while that is the theme of the movie, they were expecting to cut to get me a bottle of lube before I got fisted, but it was definitely not necessary.

00:59:34:16 - 00:59:40:11

Jupiter

Looking like the that scene in The Matrix where Neil wakes up in the pod because my costar was really hot, so.

00:59:40:13 - 00:59:42:16

Luna

I'm like, I'm good. Yeah. I'm good.

00:59:42:16 - 00:59:58:06

Jupiter

Yeah. No. Yeah, no. That was like my Linda Lovelace moment though. Like, I've been known to like, soak through. Like I have to be careful. Like what color? Like pants I wear. Like, if I'm going somewhere where, like, I might get horny. Like, I will have, like, it looks like a sweat stain. Wow. Yeah.

00:59:58:07 - 01:00:06:13

Luna

Wow. That's. So do you have fans who come find you at the brothel to see you? Is that a thing that happens? Is that weird? Is that fun? Yeah, I.

01:00:06:13 - 01:00:15:04

Jupiter

Get both ways where I get people who come to see me because they're fans of my work, and I love that. It makes me feel like a slutty celebrity. You are.

01:00:15:07 - 01:00:16:09

Luna

Thank you. You literally are.

01:00:16:09 - 01:00:36:23

Jupiter

Thank you. It feels very disconnected because I only remember that that's the case. Like when I go to, like, conventions or like when someone comes here and they're like, oh my God, I love your work. And I've also had a lot of people who come here, and then they meet me, and then they go on to follow my work that's hot and be like, oh my God, I can't believe that I didn't know about this.

01:00:36:23 - 01:00:47:14

Jupiter

That's awesome. So like, yeah, it goes both ways. But I love when people who are fans of my work come and see me in person. Like, what better way to show you appreciate me? Yeah.

01:00:47:16 - 01:00:59:03

Luna

And I know that you have like, shepherded many first timers into the realm of sex. Do you have either advice for virgins or like, favorite things about, like being with a brand new newbie?

01:00:59:05 - 01:01:38:12

Jupiter

I mean, not just virgins I like I don't know what I would call it, but I'm really turned on by, being somebodies guide to something new. I don't know what the name for that would be, but I really like it's not even being turned on. It's like the joy, because there is a very specific joy with having your fantasies met for the first time, whether that is, you know, being addressed in a way that you've never been addressed before, but that you've always wanted to hear from a beautiful woman's mouth, or whether it is trying something that you've only ever watched in video, like the joy that I see in people's faces that I

01:01:38:12 - 01:01:54:08

Jupiter

get to like, live in the moment with them is like unparallel and like it is a turn on, but it's more so like a fulfillment and like of both sexual and like emotional purpose, if you will like it, it feels really impactful.

01:01:54:10 - 01:01:59:21

Luna

So what like fantasy is a role plays. Have you not tried? I know you've been a step mom.

01:01:59:21 - 01:02:26:13

Jupiter

I was just talking about this. I've seen more than my fair share of single women at the brothel, and I've seen more than you know, and more than my fair share of couples at the brothel. I have never had a lesbian couple, come to see me at the bar. And I want so bad in every way because there's something so hot about working, like with couples.

01:02:26:13 - 01:02:51:00

Jupiter

Because I. That's where I feel like I learn the most new things about sexuality is when it's almost like being like Jane Goodall, you know, like getting to see sexuality in the wild because it's like it's not performative sexuality, like what I'm seeing on set, you know, it's actual, the real sexuality that these couples have felt out for themselves over the course of a real and, you know, extended relationship.

01:02:51:00 - 01:03:14:10

Jupiter

And I just love getting to come along for like, those rides because those are people that know each other's bodies. And I've seen so many unique approaches to making people come. I would love, love, love, love, love love please, please, lesbian couples come, come say hello. That's like the one like bucket list that I have not had here.

01:03:14:10 - 01:03:16:03

Jupiter

Oh, that I would just adore her.

01:03:16:04 - 01:03:28:17

Luna

Cross off her bucket list fantasy to her. What would you say is the skill or quality that you have that makes you a great lover? My communication.

01:03:28:17 - 01:03:56:09

Jupiter

Skills. I truly feel like there's no such thing as being bad at sex. There's just being bad at communicating with sexual partners. And I am fairly gifted as a communicator in general, and that doesn't stop once my clothes come off. And I feel like that is, you know, my ability to communicate paired with my willingness to communicate about sex while the sex is happening, because that's what a lot of people are afraid to do.

01:03:56:09 - 01:04:21:12

Jupiter

They can only talk about sex once. The sex is not happening, and it's in a sanitized environment. But you can have conversations about whether or not you're enjoying sexual in the moment. And if the answer is no, it doesn't have to be, oh well, okay. And putting your pants on like a certain gentleman at a certain casino that upcharge me,

01:04:21:14 - 01:04:24:04

Luna

What a terrible, overall terrible experience.

01:04:24:04 - 01:04:26:20

Jupiter

That communication. Bad communicators.

01:04:26:22 - 01:04:28:17

Luna

That charge for tells.

01:04:28:19 - 01:04:45:03

Jupiter

That when I said not really. When you asked if it was great, the answer should have been how can we do better not put pants on anyway? But that's my point, though, is that communication is what makes for great sex. And I think that that is a gift I have in most arenas. It's communicating.

01:04:45:05 - 01:04:49:15

Luna

What are your hopes for your sexual and or professional future?

01:04:49:17 - 01:05:31:12

Jupiter

For my own personal career, I just hope that I make enough of my own empire that I get to be a resource and a comfortable human for all of my days, and that that can be true for all of the people I care about in my life. But for the world at large, I mean, I hope that we are at the beginning of an era where sex work is accepted and that everybody realizes that somebody they love is a sex worker, and that almost everybody they love indulges in the wares of a sex worker, whether it's yes, online or in person.